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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 05:46 PM
As a longtime Tigers fan it sucked the ump made the wrong call but having the commissioner overturning it would have been wrong. If he did it would open the floodgates for having him overturning calls and to me that would ruin the integrity of the game

 

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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 06:17 PM
I agree with the spirit of your post, but I mean just this call as umpire Joyce admitted he blew the call.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 06:24 PM
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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 07:41 PM
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As a longtime Tigers fan it sucked the ump made the wrong call but having the commissioner overturning it would have been wrong. If he did it would open the floodgates for having him overturning calls and to me that would ruin the integrity of the game



You are absolutely right. This call did not effect the outcome of the game. At what point to you draw the line?

Here's another Tigers fan that agrees it would be wrong to reverse the call. It is what it is.

I was at the the game today. They had Galarraga come out for a hat wave and big standing ovation. Then they presented him with a brand new Corvette convertible. When the umpire crew was introduced they were met with mostly applause but a few boos mixed in. Galarraga brought the line-up card out to Joyce and they shook hands and even had a little hug. It was dealt with in a classy fashion all the way by the players, umps, and fans.

I only wish they had saved the money on the car and given the fans free beer instead. I'm sure Armando can afford a Corvette, but I have a hard time paying for stadium beer.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 07:53 PM
In the mind of baseball fans, Galaragga pitched a perfect game even though it didn't go into the books.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2010 at 08:01 PM
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As a longtime Tigers fan it sucked the ump made the wrong call but having the commissioner overturning it would have been wrong. If he did it would open the floodgates for having him overturning calls and to me that would ruin the integrity of the game



You are absolutely right. This call did not effect the outcome of the game. At what point to you draw the line?

Here's another Tigers fan that agrees it would be wrong to reverse the call. It is what it is.

I was at the the game today. They had Galarraga come out for a hat wave and big standing ovation. Then they presented him with a brand new Corvette convertible. When the umpire crew was introduced they were met with mostly applause but a few boos mixed in. Galarraga brought the line-up card out to Joyce and they shook hands and even had a little hug. It was dealt with in a classy fashion all the way by the players, umps, and fans.

I only wish they had saved the money on the car and given the fans free beer instead. I'm sure Armando can afford a Corvette, but I have a hard time paying for stadium beer.


When you pitch a perfect game, the Tigers will give you a free beer.

When I pitch a perfect game I think I'll opt for the Corvette.

 

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  posted on 6/4/2010 at 03:07 AM
I am not so sure the call was so awful.

The worst call ever as some Detroit headlines say? No way.

In one replay I could see the first baseman bobbling the ball , it was pretty close when he had control.
The one replay that shows him touching the base ahead of the runner doesn't show the ball bouncing
around in the glove.

The call could have gone either way in my mind. The Umpire doesn't get slow motion replays
until after the game is over. And That is the right thing in my mind.

No fan of Selig. but I agree with his leaving the box score stand is the right thing for the integrity of the game.

I applaud the sportsmanship of both the umpire and Pitcher after the game.



 

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  posted on 6/4/2010 at 07:26 AM
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If he did it would open the floodgates for having him overturning calls and to me that would ruin the integrity of the game


Why would it open the floodgates? How would it "ruin the integrity of the game"? I've been hearing those arguements, and in my view they just don't hold water. This is a unique situation, and I'm pretty sure it is within the purvue of the commisioner to address it. If Bud did the right thing and reversed the call, then the next time there is a perfect game, which is one of the rarest feats in the 100+ year history of the game, that is compromised by an obviously blown call (that EVERYONE agrees was a blown call) on what would have been the very last out of the game with the final out being made on the very next batter with no stolen bases or other stats accumulated in the meantime, and reversing the call would have no impact on the outcome of the game, the standings, or any other team measurement and would only impact the stats of the pitcher and batter involved, then you can say "I told ya so" and I'll say "you're right, I guess that really did open the floodgates after all". But given that this is a situation that has never occurred in the history of the game, and this set of circumstances is so specific and so rare that it might never occur again, I believe the floodgates are not at risk of being thrown open at all and that the integrity of the game would have been better served by having the commish step in a change it.

That said, I will actually be pretty dissapointed if this leads to more instant replay during games, as Bud has seemed to suggest could happen. That is exactly the floodgate that should NOT be opened, IMO. This should have been handled as a unique, one-off situation, but I'm afraid now it is going to be used as a platform for pro-replay folks to push for more use of in-game replay.



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  posted on 6/4/2010 at 08:02 AM
Hey, I made the front page of the Detroit Free Press this morning! Big guy standing, dark shirt with white letters, Tigers cap, white beard, right over Galarraga's elbow. That's me. Never dreamed this incident would make me famous.

 

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  posted on 6/4/2010 at 09:14 AM
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Hey, I made the front page of the Detroit Free Press this morning! Big guy standing, dark shirt with white letters, Tigers cap, white beard, right over Galarraga's elbow. That's me. Never dreamed this incident would make me famous.


Looks like you misplaced your razor.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2010 at 09:08 AM
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I am not so sure the call was so awful.

The worst call ever as some Detroit headlines say? No way.

In one replay I could see the first baseman bobbling the ball , it was pretty close when he had control.
The one replay that shows him touching the base ahead of the runner doesn't show the ball bouncing
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The call could have gone either way in my mind. The Umpire doesn't get slow motion replays
until after the game is over. And That is the right thing in my mind.

No fan of Selig. but I agree with his leaving the box score stand is the right thing for the integrity of the game.

I applaud the sportsmanship of both the umpire and Pitcher after the game.







I was watching it live and when he was called safe I too thought it was cuz he thought it was bobbled.

He NEVER bobbled it. "Sno-coned" it perhaps but always had control.

And the runner was out by a good stride. Not sure how you can say this could have gone either way. You might be the only person that feels that way.

Having said that, I'm glad the lousy commish didn't overturn it. A call is a call.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2010 at 07:10 PM
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He was safe, there is no doubt about it. There was no bobble and the pitcher beat him to the base by a full stride. Joyce just blew the call. He's human, it happens.

That sounds like an out to me. Did you mean to say he was out?

 

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  posted on 6/5/2010 at 07:20 PM
Perhaps Lee's HD tv is better than youtube grainy replays.

It looked to ME like he bobbled it. he still could have been out.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2010 at 08:19 PM
Jays over Wankers in 14. Okay, Okay, Blue Jays, Blue Jays!!!! Lets kick Yankees ass. LOL

 

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  posted on 6/5/2010 at 09:11 PM
How about Jamie Moyer with a complete game against San Diego? 47 years old, 2CG's this season. Tip of the hat.
 

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  posted on 6/6/2010 at 07:17 PM
I'm hoping for no June swoon for the Giants...just 2.5 back at 30 - 25. They need to get to at least 500 ball on the road 14 - 18 now but 19 -11 at home. They just won 2 out of 3 in Pittsburgh and now 4 straight in Cincinnati. Before coming home to an A's Giants weekend

 

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  posted on 6/6/2010 at 07:23 PM
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No I don't think any sport should have instant replay...I think human error should be a part of it...If we didn't place so much importance on a game we could keep life in a better perspective....It's only game....It's not suppose to be perfect....But with all the money put down on it, it will come to baseball too just like the DH did to draw people to the AL game because they wanted more home runs and less junk ball...but junk ball was cool and people didn't get it....Al baseball was sooo much better before the DH....All these sports were better when they were sports and not spectacles....It was a sad error on the part of the ump....it's happened before...no one died....

 

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  posted on 6/7/2010 at 05:49 AM
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Perhaps Lee's HD tv is better than youtube grainy replays.

It looked to ME like he bobbled it. he still could have been out.





He was out. Shoulda been out anyway. Geez....

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 12:09 AM
Giants just 1.5 back and have won 5 our their last 6 and the last 3 in a row....Just 1 game under 500 on the road...If they sweep the Reds they can get over the 500 hump on the road but their play in the NL West is horrid...they really need to step up against the Rockies and Dodgers

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 08:20 AM
Strasburg.. 14K's?

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 09:50 AM
There was an article comparing his Washington debut with that of the Big Train back in the day -- not many got to be as great as Walter Johnson but this kid doesn't look like he'll be a flash in the pan either -- they've brought him along well -- Jacobs Field, I mean .com Stadium will probably be filled to capacity when he pitches there Sat. -- cool to see a phee-nom come into the league now & then -- anyone remember David Clyde, who pitched for his high school one week & the Texas Rangers the next, back in the 70s sometime -- he didn't prove out though

Go Sox

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  posted on 6/14/2010 at 10:08 AM
Awesome game last night -- little could top it, a pitching duel like that & near-no hitter between two local teams -- great stuff

latest entries in the hurtie hall of fame -- what is heartburn to us mere mortals, put Milwaukee P Doug Davis on the DL -- w/"inflammation of the heart lining"

another in the latest new-injury trend -- the Reds Brandon Phillips, scratched w/a "hamstring cramp" -- wha????? that's a first on me -- just like the inflamed finger tendons, strained hip flexors (Gabe Kapler), right collateral strain of the left knee miniscus, soreness of oblique section of right ribcage yadadada --

A 70+ year old senior athlete showed up at my office recently with a knot on his knee that would have sidelined for weeks, a pro baseball player -- it didn't this person (a top athlete who's in all the Sr. Olympics etc) -- these are pro athletes, there's no excuse for having all these BS injuries -- DiceK, warms up the other day for his start, then "no no -- hurti" w/what they called a forearm strain

but not to be hypocritical -- that was an awesome game last night

GO SOX -- Beckett (back strain), Ellsbury (they don't know) have the typical injuries -- but it's all you Sawx

 

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  posted on 6/14/2010 at 07:00 PM
There's no such thing as a non-serious baseball injury -- no matter what it is, a stubbed toe, bad knee -- even the slightest injury renders these athletes dysfunctional -- I'd never heard of inflammation of the heart lining before -- baseball players are always coming up with previously unheard-of injuries/body parts etc

Heartburn I've had before seems to have been in that general area -- it means nothing -- especially HOW I went about getting my heartburn

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  posted on 6/14/2010 at 07:39 PM
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Stephen, inflamation of the heart lining is not heartburn. Heartburn actually has nothing to do with the heart. Inflamation of the heart lining can be a serious thing.


Doug also had thyroid Cancer a few years ago.. Doubt it is related tho..

 

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  posted on 6/15/2010 at 08:47 AM
Jim Joyce named game's best ump, despite blown Galarraga call
By 'Duk

Right or wrong, it's the tendency of fans to only notice an umpire when he blows a big call.

I would've assumed ballplayers might evaluate blue in a similar manner, but it looks like their close proximity and frequent exposure to the game's officials actually allows a more fair and balanced view of the group.

After all, how else can you explain Jim Joyce being voted the game's best umpire in a survey of 100 big league players conducted after he cost Armando Galarraga(notes) his perfect game with a missed call at first?

ESPN said Sunday that 50 active players from each league were asked confidentially within the past week to select the three best umpires in baseball. Joyce was named on 53 percent of the surveys, topping Tim McClelland (34 percent).

"The sad thing about the Galarraga game is, Jim Joyce is seriously one of the best umpires around," one player told ESPN in its full report. "He always calls it fair, so players love him. Everyone makes mistakes, and it's terrible that this happened to him."

What's interesting is that McClelland was also involved in a memorably bad call I deemed it the worst of all time because the right call seemed so clearly obvious during last fall's American League Championship Series between the Angels and Yankees. But the overall reputations of the two umpires, culled from years of respecting the game and their craft, were able to survive the worst day they've ever spent at work. It's almost as if each survey participant cited the blogosphere's favorite qualification "small sample size!" before responding.

At the same time, C.B. Bucknor and Cowboy Joe West were named the game's worst umpires by the players, and I suspect the results would be the same if you asked the fans. Their sustained suckitude is apparently a lot more visible to everyone than one botched call that grabs headlines. Probably as it should be.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Jim-Joyce-named-game- s-best-ump-despite-blown-G?urn=mlb,248168

 

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