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  posted on 3/2/2010 at 09:39 PM
Charlie Rangel on the brink

By JONATHAN ALLEN & JAKE SHERMAN | 3/2/10 4:22 PM EST

Democrats seem to be abandoning Charles Rangel.

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Charlie Rangel emerged from a closed-door meeting in Nancy Pelosi’s office Tuesday night to declare that he’s still the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and hasn’t agreed to give up his gavel – even as some media outlets were reporting that he’d done just that.

But asked whether he’d still be the chairman tomorrow and in the coming days, Rangel said: “I can’t make all those promises at my age.”

And when Pelosi was asked whether Rangel was resigning, she said “no comment.”

As late as Monday evening, the New York Democrat seemed to be surviving his latest ethical challenges. But the tide turned against him quickly, and by Tuesday night, at least 14 Democrats had said that Rangel should go. Democratic leaders expect more to come, and the Capitol is braced for Rangel to lose his gavel one way or another – by force or voluntarily, temporarily or permanently.

“The dam broke today,” said a senior Democratic aide.

Rangel suffered a significant blow Tuesday afternoon when Rep. Artur Davis – a member of both the Ways and Means Committee and the Congressional Black Caucus who’s running for governor back home in Alabama – issued a statement in which he said the chairman “should do the right thing and step aside.”

Republicans are planning to bring a resolution to the House floor calling for his removal as chairman, and Democratic aides said Tuesday that the party’s most vulnerable incumbents are not willing to risk the electoral fallout that would come from standing by the 39-year House veteran.

If all House members vote and all 178 Republicans favor removing Rangel, the GOP would need 39 Democrats to turn against the chairman to win the vote.

Rangel appeared briefly on the House floor Tuesday night, but he declined to talk with reporters who tried to ask him about his fate. A source close to Rangel pushed back against rumors that he planned to step aside from his Ways and Means post, saying the congressman wanted to wait until the House votes so that he can “see what his strength was.”

A senior aide to a vulnerable House Democrat said that Rep. Joe Crowley, an ally of Rangel who has also played a leadership role at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, is leading the whip count efforts on Rangel, acting as a go-between between the vulnerable freshman and sophomore Democrats, on the one hand, and Rangel and Democratic leadership on the other.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33787.html#ixzz0h4qZOxl9


Looks like the political climate isn't helping Charlie hang on to his gavel.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 06:06 AM
He always struck me as one of those guys you couldn't help but like on a personal level. Kind of the anti Pelosi

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 08:15 AM
Seems like a nice guy. Great voice. Should have been a blues man.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 08:22 AM
Sleazy weasel.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 08:49 AM
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He always struck me as one of those guys you couldn't help but like on a personal level.


I thought that too, although it seems he has abused his power slightly. I like when he actually stood up for Bush after Chavez chided him at the UN. Rangel essentially said, hey, if we want to beat up our guy, we can do that, but you keep your mouth shut.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 09:21 AM
Hopefully we'll be rid of him soon.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 10:33 AM
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Hopefully we'll be rid of him soon.

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 11:04 AM
He has just announced that he'll be stepping down.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 11:12 AM
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He has just announced that he'll be stepping down.

Temporarily stepping down from chairmanship of Ways & Means:

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Reporting from Washington - Rep. Charles Rangel, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee who has been dogged by ethics questions, said today he would temporarily surrender his powerful post.

In a brief letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rangel (D-N.Y.) said he was handing over his gavel until a House ethics committee finished its investigation.

The move came ahead of a vote today on a Republican-offered resolution to push Rangel from his chairmanship. Tuesday, it appeared that a significant number of Democrats were going to vote for Rangel's ouster, increasing the pressure on the veteran lawmaker to step aside on his own. As late as Tuesday night, however, he insisted he was still the chairman of the committee, which writes tax legislation.

Earlier in the week, the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct found that Rangel knowingly violated House rules by going on two corporate junkets to the Caribbean in 2007 and 2008.

Rangel's move also is a blow to Pelosi, who has backed Rangel even as his ethics woes mounted.

Next in line behind Rangel to chair the Ways and Means Committee is Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.), one of the most liberal and outspoken members of the House. In 2007, Stark said that troops were being sent to Iraq to "get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."

But it remains possible that the Democratic leadership could choose someone else to head the committee in Rangel's absence.

The ethics committee also is investigating Rangel's ownership of several rent-controlled apartments in New York, his failure to pay taxes on an offshore rental property and his use of office letterhead to solicit donations for a public-policy school that would bear his name.

Rangel, 79, has represented his Harlem district since 1971 and was the first African American to take over Ways and Means. He has played a leading role in crafting the healthcare overhaul under consideration in the House and Senate.

One of Rangel's colleagues in the Congressional Black Caucus, Arthur Davis (D-Ala.), broke with Rangel earlier this week, calling for him to step down. Davis is running for governor of Alabama. It helped spark a wave of Democratic defections, as vulnerable lawmakers running for reelection sought to distance themselves from the embattled congressman. They also began returning campaign donations that they had received from Rangel.
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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 11:40 AM
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He has just announced that he'll be stepping down.


Good call...sleaze is sleaze, whether it is an R or a D.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 12:24 PM
We have a black man running for governor of Alabama???? I now have someone to vote for!!!

 

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He always struck me as one of those guys you couldn't help but like on a personal level.


I thought that too, although it seems he has abused his power slightly. I like when he actually stood up for Bush after Chavez chided him at the UN. Rangel essentially said, hey, if we want to beat up our guy, we can do that, but you keep your mouth shut.


Seems like he abused it pretty dramatically.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 02:09 PM
Rangel has more lives than James Bond-that being said, its about time!!!
 

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  posted on 3/3/2010 at 05:48 PM
Well, at least you still have 'Chuck You' Schumer.


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I thought that too, although it seems he has abused his power slightly. I like when he actually stood up for Bush after Chavez chided him at the UN. Rangel essentially said, hey, if we want to beat up our guy, we can do that, but you keep your mouth shut.



Boy did that p*ss Squatch off when Rangel dissed his boy.

Yep, I'd have a beer with Chuck, but he needs to get off the Ways and Means leadershop chair for sure.

 

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I'm torn, because Rangel clearly is in the wrong with his housing situation, but I find it a victimless crime. No doubt this type of thing was common practice when he entered office. Now the reins are tighter (for good reason) and he is paying the price. Not making excuses for him, it was surely his own hubris that led to this mess, but to me, I'm not exactly offended by rent controlled apartments. Free trips and special favors are a different story, but my feeling is that his future should be left up to his constituents rather than some phony fellow reps looking to score political points or move up the ladder after his fall. The unfortunate thing is that he is without a doubt an effective advocate for his constituents. They will not be well-served by his diminished influence in Congress. And that is a shame, given there aren't many advocates out there for the people he serves.


Not offended by rent controlled apartments? How about when you have 4 or 5 while most of us can't get near one and be exhorbinant rent? How about his faiure to pay taxes and blaming it on his staff? The man is human pond scum and we would be well rid of him along with at least half of the entire Congress.

 

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I'm torn, because Rangel clearly is in the wrong with his housing situation, but I find it a victimless crime. No doubt this type of thing was common practice when he entered office. Now the reins are tighter (for good reason) and he is paying the price. Not making excuses for him, it was surely his own hubris that led to this mess, but to me, I'm not exactly offended by rent controlled apartments. Free trips and special favors are a different story, but my feeling is that his future should be left up to his constituents rather than some phony fellow reps looking to score political points or move up the ladder after his fall. The unfortunate thing is that he is without a doubt an effective advocate for his constituents. They will not be well-served by his diminished influence in Congress. And that is a shame, given there aren't many advocates out there for the people he serves.


Not offended by rent controlled apartments? How about when you have 4 or 5 while most of us can't get near one and be exhorbinant rent? How about his faiure to pay taxes and blaming it on his staff? The man is human pond scum and we would be well rid of him along with at least half of the entire Congress.


See, this over-the-top vitriol is what makes me want to defend him. Human pond scum? Really? For trying to avoid some taxes, and enjoying rent controlled apartments in his district? It's old school politics and it's wrong, but it's not the crime against humanity that you're suggesting. Maybe you would like to get rid of him on principle, but again, the simple fact is that he works for his constituents, not for you, and he's served those people extremely effectively over the years despite (or perhaps, because of) his sleazy streak.


I'm frankly not sure how well he's done that but since I am not one I guess it doesn't matter. I don't think it's over the top at all. Someone who is sleazy and doesn't pay their taxes and gets things ordinary people don't is how I define pond scum. If he was a killer I would call him a monster or something like that. He is a sleazy bastard and is everything that makes people dislike Congress. If a Republican were guilty of these things would you defend him because he served his constituents so well?

 

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  posted on 3/4/2010 at 01:08 PM
dump the chump! Ought to be in prison.

 

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