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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 04:36 PM
Nobody has anything to say about this near disaster and the fact that in spite of every extreme regulation he was still able to smuggle these dangerous items on a plane? Not to mention that he was already known to U.S. security as a potential threat and still got a visa to enter the U.S. We have definitely returned to the pre-9/11 days and I fear a disaster is coming soon. The worst thing is that they immediately implemented absurd over regulation which will do nothing to stop anything. People are now not allowed to access their bags or go to the bathroom for the final hour of an international flight. How would that stop him from detonating before the final hour? And why can't they keep people like this off of planes and out of the country?

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 05:10 PM
Remember when they held [Cat Stevens] at the airport in Boston? and harrassed him for having a muslim name??.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 05:29 PM
And they make little old ladies take off their shoes before they get on the plane.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 06:09 PM
They are saying he burned his nuts.
 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 06:51 PM
The 72 virgins are not going to be happy with that......

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 06:59 PM
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The 72 virgins are not going to be happy with that......


Ya know, I don't think anyone has ever brought out the fact that it doesn't say that they are FEMALE virgins.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 07:02 PM
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They are saying he burned his nuts.


Sounds like a punchline to a Dave Letterman squirrel joke.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 07:11 PM
The same day this loser tried to blow up the plane I got a can of mixed nuts out of our freezer and put them in a bowl on the kitchen counter. Then I went outside for a walk. A few minutes after I got back my wife said, "Have your nuts thawed yet?". I said, "Oh yes, it wasn't that cold out."

Coincidence? I think not.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:11 PM
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They are saying he burned his nuts.






 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:17 PM
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And they make little old ladies take off their shoes before they get on the plane.
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Little old men on walkers too. True story....I was flying out of Huntsville airport and got the full patdown and run through the metal detector but while Dad and I were heading to the gate Johnny called and told me I'd forgotten my camera. I went flying down the stairs, past security and out the door to get my camera. When I got back and was ready to go through the whole process again, including having my camera checked, the agent just waved me on through. First of all I was glad to avoid the check for the dreaded 'underwire' and then I was a little concerned that I could have had anything in that camera bag and they let me through.

At the other end of the flight and when getting ready to return home from the Oklahoma City airport, there were armed guards, two metal detectors and three carry on checks plus they went through all of our luggage....and I packed like it was a clown car! I had to fight them just to keep that tiny little screwdriver that was in my glasses repair kit and yet, they let me through with a ballpoint pen and anyone who's ever seen James Bond knows how lethal one of those can be in the wrong hands.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:24 PM
From what I understand, his own father went to the embassy in Nigeria (?) to warn them about his son's extreme religious views. wth?

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:32 PM
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They are saying he burned his nuts.


Sounds like a punchline to a Dave Letterman squirrel joke.


OMG...that's funny!

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:33 PM
It just seems to me they are ignoring the obvious and just doing these things to make it look like they are working at it. I want to know why this guy was on a terrorist watch list and it did not prevent the State Department from giving him a visa to enter the United States.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 08:45 PM
Maybe they thought it was a different Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.............

 

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  posted on 12/27/2009 at 10:06 PM
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Maybe they thought it was a different Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.............

I hadn't considered that. Well if they couldn't be sure it was the same Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab they'd better let him through. Can't take chances with people's rights after all.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 12:47 AM
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Nobody has anything to say about this near disaster and the fact that in spite of every extreme regulation he was still able to smuggle these dangerous items on a plane?


Whats to say that hasnt been said long before? We all know that security is a joke HERE, let alone abroad. One of my hiking magazines did a story on the weak Canadian border and how easy it was for someone to come in completely undetected. Hell, some 'manned checkpoints' expect you to be on the honor system and let them know you came through when they arent there.

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Not to mention that he was already known to U.S. security as a potential threat and still got a visa to enter the U.S.


...back in 2008

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We have definitely returned to the pre-9/11 days and I fear a disaster is coming soon.


Nope. We never left. Our security has not improved at all. I seem to recall myself biatching about this years ago...strange.

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The worst thing is that they immediately implemented absurd over regulation which will do nothing to stop anything. People are now not allowed to access their bags or go to the bathroom for the final hour of an international flight. How would that stop him from detonating before the final hour? And why can't they keep people like this off of planes and out of the country?


It wouldnt stop anyone. We should be asking why the Bush administration never spent all the money on chemical "sniffers" that would have caught this guy. Past that, if he was on a watch list, why did they issue him a visa?

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 01:06 AM
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They are saying he burned his nuts.


I like to think it was more of a divine intervention.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 02:20 AM
I saw a little old lady, probaly 80 years old get patted down and wanded on Christmas Eve at DFW while her 60 something year old daughter watched. I would have liked to have had my camera ready for that one.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 08:03 AM
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I saw a little old lady, probaly 80 years old get patted down and wanded on Christmas Eve at DFW while her 60 something year old daughter watched. I would have liked to have had my camera ready for that one.

That's hot.


I think that there are websites for sickos like you.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 09:12 AM
Once again we are totally reactionary instead of being proactive. Why bother with a list, if you let the people on the frigginí plane that shouldnít be? According to Napoletano everything happened as it should have. Yeah right. Thank God the people on that plane were vigilant. The passengers and the crew were probably the only ones who took the correct course of action. If there is one good thing that came from 9/11, itís that the public will not take any more **** from these maniacs trying to blow up planes. It now seems the public and the crews are the ones who thwart many of these attempted attacks.

Speaking of this list, they say that the list has something like half a million names on it and different people are coded differently. Canít they use some sort of scientific query system to check these names? We use a system at work called 1010 data which helps to query and analyze huge amounts of data, why canít the TSA or Homeland Security use something similar to sort through all of these names?

Canít wait to fly to Mobile, AL this weekend for work. Should be fun at the security line!!

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 09:20 AM
I travel all over the world for business and the "tightest" security I've ever seen was in Burlington, VT after a weekend with my high school buddies. I had a baseball hat, a pair of jeans, a t-shirt, my blackberry and a small travel kit. I was interrogated over my hair conditioner. Good job, guys. Keepin' the skies safe...

Meanwhile I've traveled far and wide with a cork-screw in my briefcase. I don't consider it a weapon, but shouldn't they under their "security" rules? Maybe they're just sympathetic to the pain of having a bottle of wine and no way to open it...

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 09:40 AM
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If there is one good thing that came from 9/11, itís that the public will not take any more **** from these maniacs trying to blow up planes. It now seems the public and the crews are the ones who thwart many of these attempted attacks.


Unfortunately this is true, but I feel....as it should be.

I can only surmise that this airport security thing is harder than it seems.

In Jax, they had one of those chemical sniffer things, not 100% sure what they were sniffing for, but it blew puffs of air all over you, then tested it....but as far as I know, they stopped using it....probably too much whining from the public or too costly or unreliable...?

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 09:43 AM
One more thought....our short attention span public doesn't care.

Unfortunately I feel it is going to take another actual disaster for people to wake up.

I'd be willing to bet that on average, MOST people are not even aware of this thing that just happened on that Detroit flight.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 09:53 AM
This just got me thinking....since the shoe bomber, we have to take off our shoes at the airport. Does this mean I will now have to drop my pants at security? I certainly hope so!!
 

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  posted on 12/28/2009 at 10:05 AM
All I know is, unless it's an emergency that I have to fly, I'm all about road trips. Our upcoming vacation plans all involve driving. Eff flying.

 

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