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Author: Subject: DUANE ERA ABB RECORDINGS ~ reference list first post on page 1 ~ UPDATED 12th JAN 2019

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  posted on 2/20/2018 at 06:20 PM
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Thanks Colin
I have the Capt. Skipper 01/28/71 Fillmore West, San Francisco, but not the 01/29/71 @ Winterland, San Francisco (1 disc) {as per Wolfgang’s Vault}
I had never considered the Wolfgang’s Vault "tape" because I thought the prevailing wisdom seemed to be that it was the same as the one Capt. Skipper worked on. Now that appears not to be so.
I'd rather avoid joining AMP'd just for that one download.
If there is anyone can share that with me, BnP, trade, I'd appreciate it.


The link I was referred to on sugarmegs is mislabelled, still looking to acquire 1/29/71 if anyone can help.
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  posted on 2/21/2018 at 05:36 PM
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  posted on 6/4/2018 at 06:13 PM
Here's a Duane-era show that's not on the master list....
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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/AllmanBrothersBand1970-01-24Whi skeyAGoGoLosAngelesCA.html

 

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  posted on 6/4/2018 at 08:26 PM
WOW!!! thanks for the heads up.... doesn't look familiar to me...

 

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  posted on 6/4/2018 at 10:03 PM
Just listened to the entire show - I think it's new.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2018 at 04:20 AM
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Here's a Duane-era show that's not on the master list....
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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/AllmanBrothersBand1970-01-24Whi skeyAGoGoLosAngelesCA.html


I believe that it is mislabelled and is actually 07/09/70 SUNY Stony Brook, NY

 

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  posted on 8/1/2018 at 12:59 AM
thinkin this should be updated to now include the 2/13/70 show that was just released..can never get enough duane, no matter what it is
 

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  posted on 1/12/2019 at 07:22 AM
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thinkin this should be updated to now include the 2/13/70 show that was just released..can never get enough duane, no matter what it is


02/11/70 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 disc)
02/14/70 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 disc)


The above two shows already fell into a grey area with regards to tradability due to the 1997 commercial release by Grateful Dead Records – “Fillmore East Feb ‘70” – that was a compilation containing tracks from these two shows along with snippets from the partially recorded 2/13 show. In 2018 the Owsley Stanley Foundation & ABB Recording Company re-released the compilation CD and also made available the original recordings of 2/11, 2/13 and 2/14, hence these shows are definitely no longer considered to be tradable.

“Fillmore East February 1970” track list details are as follows:

1. In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (2/14)
2. Hoochie Coochie Man (2/14)
3. Statesboro Blues (2/11)
4. Trouble No More (2/11)
5. Outskirts Of Town (2/13 beginning & 2/14 ending) *
6. Whipping Post (2/14)
7. Mountain Jam (2/14 beginning & 2/13 drum solo to end) *

* complete recordings from individual shows were not available due to tape flips, hence full tracks were created by splicing partial recordings from different nights.

Note that the Feb 70 compilation also crops up in trading circles listed as being the 02/13/70 show, this is bogus as only three tracks were recorded on 2/13.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2019 at 09:46 AM
THE JANUARY 1971 FILLMORE WEST SHOWS DEBATE

Following further investigation last year, it has been concluded that there is no genuine recording of the full show at Winterland on 1/29/71 and that 1/28, 1/30 and 1/31 are the only authentic recordings from this run.


The master list on page one has thus been amended as follows:


01/29/71 @ Winterland, San Francisco (1 track only – Whipping Post)

Regarding the venue for this show, according to Kim Payne (ABB Roadie) the show on the 29th was actually played at Winterland, and not the Fillmore West. In further discussions about this, Joseph Campbell (ABB Roadie – “Red Dog”) also recalled having to move Greggs Hammond B3 Organ across the city for one show at Winterland after a show at the Fillmore West. So it would seem that although the ABB had originally been booked to play the 28th, 29th, 30th & 31st at the Fillmore West, after playing there on the 28th for some reason (possibly technical or booking issues) they had to move over to Winterland for the show on the 29th, and then go back to the Fillmore for the shows on the 30th & 31st.

There are two bogus versions in circulation purporting to be this show. One is just a copy of 1/28 with a bit of manipulation of the crowd noise and stage banter between the tracks to give the impression that the recording is from a different show. The other is a bit more devious in that it has stage banter from other shows inserted between the tracks. This was proven by sonic analysis (thanks to Steve Cogley aka “oldcoot”) which also showed that some of the tracks had been fabricated by splicing together sections from different recordings.

It is therefore thought that no genuine recording exists of the full show at Winterland on 1/29, however there is a recording from a radio show that is in circulation, where the DJ announces “And now, live from Winterland, here’s Whipping Post from the Allman Brothers”. This one track is considered to be the only authentic recording from the show on 01/29/71, and may well be what has been used on the second of the bogus shows referred to above.


 

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  posted on 1/12/2019 at 11:01 AM
Thanks for these updates Colin

 

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  posted on 1/12/2019 at 06:17 PM
Yes, thank you again for the update and Thanks to oldcoot. This list and the work put into it is greatly appreciated.

 

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