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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 01:35 PM
Hey, I've done some work in the music business, unfortunately all of it involved heavy lifting and mostly not getting paid.
Somebody help me here, why couldn't 100 of us fans each kick in $100.00 and promote our own show in our own neighborhood theatre, middle size talent like Allman Betts or such, we got the 500 seat Laporte Little Theatre Playhouse a small Kate 1890's Church. I can already see the resulting live slbum! Why isn't this done by fans???.........Thanks.........joe

 
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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 01:50 PM
there is much more that goes into it than just coming up with the money to pay the band. Besides, you want 100 other business partners?
 

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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 01:57 PM
Joe, Back in 1993 a business associate/friend of mine got together with a few others and, not sure the word to use here, hired or contracted, with Jerry Jeff Walker to play a show at a local restaurant in Erie. These guys were all big fans of JJW.
I'm not sure what it cost but I know on October 31st, 1993 we all sat at the Waterfall restaurant and enjoyed an evening with Jerry Jeff Walker & The Gonzo Compadres.
Jerry Jeff was even kind enough to spend the better part of the rest of the night at my friend's house sharing stories and a cocktail or two.
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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 10:46 PM
Not only possible, but a big trend recently. "House concerts" are a hot circuit for artists doing an end run around the standard touring model. House concert $ are exactly what you described, nonprofit, invitation only, all moneys go to the artist. I learned about this from talking to Roy Book Binder, who said he and others are making better $ from this than the pro tour set up in commercial venues.

Artist view on this http://blog.sonicbids.com/a-diy-guide-to-booking-house-concerts-and-superch arging-tour-revenue

How to set up your own House concert:

https://robharrisonline.com/house-concerts


 

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  posted on 7/12/2019 at 06:06 AM
There's a guy I sort of know named Billy Falcon. He's from Nashville and he does this thing. I spoke with him and his agent and they said they would even would come to Chicago if I paid them enough. It's interesting because they really won't be making any money, just travelling costs.

Most of you have probably never heard of this guy but he co-wrote a lot of stuff with Jon Bon Jovi. In fact, last year Jon thanked him during his Rock N Roll HOF induction speech.

Here's an email he sent to me. Trust me, if you live in the area, $500 is WELL worth it.

Hey Friends,

As you may know. Me and my two very talented pals from South Africa are in the middle of recording a new project.

While we are waiting on mixes and such we want to get out and play some this summer. Thats where you come in. If you live within 10 hours of Nashville we would love to come and do a house show for you.

What is a house show?
We take our guitars, throw them in the car and drive to your house,club house, favorite cafe or backyard. You get the picture. Any room big enough for 15 to 50 people will suffice. You invite your friends, enemies, family members and we do the rest.

You can make it a house party how ever you would like to do that. Some folks would ask guests to chip in to help offset the $ 500. cost, which basically will cover food and gasoline on the way to your place.

We will sing, tell stories and hang out with you and your friends.

[Edited on 7/12/2019 by Lee]

 

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  posted on 7/12/2019 at 09:06 AM
A lot of artists have a "booking" or "contact" page on their websites. I am not talking about hugely popular bands like the Stones or U2, obviously. I know I have seen contact info on the websites of Los Lobos, Taj Mahal, and Gillian Welch. I guess it could never hurt to email and ask what their standard per-show price is.

I have day-dreamed about it before... something like Hot Tuna and a cookout at my buddy's farm. It would be a day you would never forget.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2019 at 01:23 PM
I believe the Radiators had a network of fans around the country for a while who put on shows like this. I may be getting the story wrong but I think the Rads were dropped from Epic and they didn't have a company to fund touring so the fans formed "Crewes" and would promote their own shows. I loved the Rads and even when they got popular enough to tour on their own again the crewe shows were still a big deal. I don't recall what the letters stood for but there were the MOMS crewe. DADS and one Called SNAFU. I didn't go to the big parties they threw but someone in NYC once had them play in a loft in the village which was basically like a college kegger. Lots of fun.
The crews would print their own tickets and promote the show so they made their money back for the most part. That's the key. I think the band gets paid up front plus all the extra stuff to keep them coming back, food, hotel, security etc. If you don't promote the show properly you could be out a lot of money.

I also recall Screaming Cheetah Wheelies fans throwing a party called Wheelie fest which was basically camping on some rented out land. it was put on by fans for sure and lots of fun. It was up in PA somewhere. One year Marc Ford opened the show. Great time.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2019 at 04:12 PM
Back in the very early 2000s I had a similar thought regarding the ABB. There were better than 10,000 members on this site at the time and a bunch that were very active. I posted the question. How much would it cost to add 1 Beacon show at the end of the run for members of this site only?

Lana replied "The price of the tickets".



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  posted on 7/13/2019 at 01:37 AM
Don't sign anything and don't have it on property you own in any way. Drunk guy falls - there better be insurance.

 

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  posted on 7/13/2019 at 10:57 PM
Interesting idea.

Some small concerts of note:

- the Rambles that Levon Helm used to have.

- the town of Greenwich CT is an affluent town that has "town parties," private concerts for town residents only. Tickets might run 500 bucks, but they have had Eric Clapton and the TTB as performers.

- my hero Tommy Stinson from the Replacements does do the "house party" thing mentioned above.

- Marillion did a US tour that was sponsored by their fan club, fans plunking down cash like for a GoFundMe / crowdstarter type deal. Each fan who put down 50 or so bucks to help sponsor the tour got a live CD.

- I would bet that some great active musicians who are not at the top of the charts would play for less then we might assume. I would bet that you could get an Adrian Belew or Jack Pearson for a reasonable sum.

I bet a motivated person could afford to get some.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2019 at 08:42 AM
I had Jack Pearson do a house concert at my house in 2013 - I think we guaranteed him $750.

He just drove down from Nashville to Bham, then returned.

Was big time - there are one or two other people here on HTW who were there.




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Interesting idea.

Some small concerts of note:

- I would bet that some great active musicians who are not at the top of the charts would play for less then we might assume. I would bet that you could get an Adrian Belew or Jack Pearson for a reasonable sum.

I bet a motivated person could afford to get some.

 

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There's a guy I sort of know named Billy Falcon. He's from Nashville and he does this thing. I spoke with him and his agent and they said they would even would come to Chicago if I paid them enough. It's interesting because they really won't be making any money, just travelling costs.

Most of you have probably never heard of this guy but he co-wrote a lot of stuff with Jon Bon Jovi. In fact, last year Jon thanked him during his Rock N Roll HOF induction speech.

Here's an email he sent to me. Trust me, if you live in the area, $500 is WELL worth it.

Hey Friends,

As you may know. Me and my two very talented pals from South Africa are in the middle of recording a new project.

While we are waiting on mixes and such we want to get out and play some this summer. Thats where you come in. If you live within 10 hours of Nashville we would love to come and do a house show for you.

What is a house show?
We take our guitars, throw them in the car and drive to your house,club house, favorite cafe or backyard. You get the picture. Any room big enough for 15 to 50 people will suffice. You invite your friends, enemies, family members and we do the rest.

You can make it a house party how ever you would like to do that. Some folks would ask guests to chip in to help offset the $ 500. cost, which basically will cover food and gasoline on the way to your place.

We will sing, tell stories and hang out with you and your

[Edited on 7/12/2019 by Lee]


Is that Billy Falcon who was on a major label in the late 70ís? If so, I saw him a couple of times, He had the rap of being a Springsteen clone.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2019 at 10:03 AM
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Is that Billy Falcon who was on a major label in the late 70ís? If so, I saw him a couple of times, He had the rap of being a Springsteen clone.



I can ask him but the time frame doesn't quite make sense to me. I heard of him in 1987 so you could be right but I think '87 was his first radio-ish release. You could be thinking about John Eddie. He is from Jersey like Bruce and gets the comparison which he hates. Maybe Southside Johnny? They've known each other for many years.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2019 at 10:53 AM
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Don't sign anything and don't have it on property you own in any way. Drunk guy falls - there better be insurance.

Worse, a lot of states have dram laws where the property owner or host who "overserves" is strictly liable for accidents resulting from intoxicated guest(s) even after they leave the event. Do not pass go. Do not bother to defend yourself. You are 100% on the hook for whatever happens. This applies to businesses and individuals.

 
 


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