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  posted on 6/5/2019 at 08:09 PM
Oh man, where do I begin?...Let me start off by saying that I am a fan. Back in the 70s while I was in my room blasting "Statesboro Blues" and falling asleep with my Sennheiser headphones on while listening to "Dreams", my little sister was all about Sir Elton. The latest releases were sung around the house and the albums were the only thing emanating from her room. I was there at the Forum in '75 and the Anaheim Convention center in '76 when Reg rolled into the L.A/O.C. area, I can still remember being blown away by Elton's performances......

....Has anyone else seen this film?....2 hours+ I will never have back, depressing glop and a dressed up pity fest, sprinkled with dancing.

Horrible, just horrible.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2019 at 08:34 PM
What does your sister say about the movie?

 

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  posted on 6/5/2019 at 08:37 PM
Not seen it, but have been wondering, was leaning towards NO, I was Young 4th-8th grade when he was on fire, I was a casual fan, had a couple albums and 45''s of his.........Thanks for the much respected thoughts here BIGV..........Peace........joe

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  posted on 6/5/2019 at 08:41 PM
Not interested in the film - most of Eltons songs cause me to quickly turn the radio dial only to hear something worse.

Strange thing is the song "Rocket Man" is possibly my favorite pop ballad, ever. No matter where I hear it, radio, supermarket, wherever, I listen with full attention.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2019 at 09:27 PM
I really liked pretty much all of his early albums up to and including Blue Moves. I consider Elton John, Tumbleweed Connection and Madman Across the Water masterpieces. Yet I have zero interest in seeing some Hollywood dreck based on his life.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 11:15 AM
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....Has anyone else seen this film?....2 hours+ I will never have back, depressing glop and a dressed up pity fest, sprinkled with dancing.

Horrible, just horrible.



I've seen it and couldn't disagree more.

I'll start by saying that I have only a Best Of album in my collection, so I wouldn't say I was a fan.

I can't think of many recent musician biopics that I have enjoyed, Ray (Charles) and I Walk The Line being about the best. Funnily enough, you could describe them as depressing glop and pity fests too...

I thought the depiction of Sir Elton's early career was splendidly done. His transformation from the lonely nerd Reg Dwight struggling with his homosexuality into a flamboyant pop star would challenge credibility if it was fiction.

The acting - British, not Hollywood - is excellent and Taron Egerton's portrayal of Elton is top class. The songs are well chosen and intelligently used to accompany episodes in the movie. This is a musical and musicals have dancing.

This knocks Bohemian Rhapsody out of the park, in my opinion.

If you're predisposed against Elton and his music, you probably will hate it. But if you watch with an open mind and are ready to be entertained, I can't see how you wouldn't enjoy it, or at least admire it as a piece of film-making.






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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 11:28 AM
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If you're predisposed against Elton and his music, you probably will hate it. But if you watch with an open mind and are ready to be entertained, I can't see how you wouldn't enjoy it, or at least admire it as a piece of film-making.


I repeat. I am a fan who approached this with an open mind and could not wait for it to end, awful film.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 11:30 AM
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If you're predisposed against Elton and his music, you probably will hate it. But if you watch with an open mind and are ready to be entertained, I can't see how you wouldn't enjoy it, or at least admire it as a piece of film-making.


I agree with this. I saw it and thought the guy playing Elton was incredible, and the Director did a fantastic job of telling the story. The top critics are saying itís a great movie and will most likely get nominations for best actor, director, and picture. Iím sure Vegas will have this film listed in those categories as favorites to be nominated, if you compare it to whatís been released this year already. I highly recommend it for any fan of Elton.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 07:56 PM
No interest in seeing it. Elton John is a talented musician and has a great body of work. I enjoy many of his songs. I also think he takes himself too seriously and doesn't need a movie made about him. I hope those that go to see it enjoy themselves.

Here's to Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding, probably my favorite Elton John composition.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 09:25 PM
Shatner did it better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wI4jMxveyI

 

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  posted on 6/7/2019 at 07:41 AM
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Here's to Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding, probably my favorite Elton John composition.


Mine too. Got to see his show in Ď84 and he opened with that.

 

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  posted on 6/7/2019 at 09:39 AM
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Shatner did it better


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  posted on 6/7/2019 at 09:39 AM
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I thought the depiction of Sir Elton's early career was splendidly done.


They took more liberties with his career in this movie than I even have the time to get into. It was splendidly botched. This isn't a biopic, this is a fiction....and a total Hollywood version of fiction at that. And I LOVE Elton's music.

Here's a start:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rocketman-fact-check-elton-jo hn-biopic-842902/

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  posted on 6/7/2019 at 06:24 PM
Why would one go see a movie with an actor depicting a musician? I don't go see musicians doing screenplays. Or race car drivers playing baseball. It just seems destined for "less than"...Ö.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2019 at 09:00 AM
Thanks for the Rolling Stone review, jparadise. Now that I know they took that many liberties with the truth, not sure I'd bother seeing this. They DID say at the end that the movie is a lot of fun though.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2019 at 09:22 AM
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Why would one go see a movie with an actor depicting a musician? I don't go see musicians doing screenplays. Or race car drivers playing baseball. It just seems destined for "less than"...Ö.


If you didn't watch anything in which an actor plays a real-life character (aside from another actor, of course), you would miss out on a lot of great plays and movies!


"Elton didnít audition for Dick James by playing 'Daniel' and 'I Guess Thatís Why They Call It the Blues'

Ray Williams was impressed by Elton John from the very beginning, but his boss Dick James was much more skeptical. In Rocketman, Elton tries to impress him by playing bits of 'Daniel' and 'I Guess Thatís Why They Call It The Blues.' But this is 1967 and those songs wouldnít be written until 1972 and 1983."


(Rolling Stone)

When a 1983 song is shown being performed in 1967, I think it's clearly a case of artistic licence and not goof.

Songs are sung out of chronological order throughout the film, probably because they suited the mood of the scene.




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  posted on 6/8/2019 at 10:26 AM
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Shatner did it better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wI4jMxveyI


That was actually the first thing that I thought of when I saw the thread title.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2019 at 04:27 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing it.

The second album I bought was Honky Chateau in the mid 70's and have been a fan since... I finally seen him a few years ago and it was an amazing show!

 

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  posted on 6/9/2019 at 10:45 AM
An interesting memory of my youth just came to me, in Jr. High ('74-'78) there was a kid at my school, name escaping at moment, he was maybe a year older, not well off family, house broke down , grubby etc. Teased on occasion. One day as school let out, he and I chatted in the hall, he ran through Elton''s albums and why he likes each one so much, and I being an 8th grade male, I immediately put on the breaks and said "but Man, I am hearing he's gay and everything", this young man just reiterated that he didn't give a fat rats ass about Elton's personal preferences, that he really dug the music.........that brief exchange is stronger to me now at 55yrs old than it ever was.......Peace.......joe

Again, I went off topic, sorry, I won't see the movie as I see almost no movies.

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  posted on 6/10/2019 at 09:31 AM
I saw the flick yesterday. I thought this was a great production, and well presented. It didn't matter that the facts weren't straight; to me that was off the point. It told his family story, and what made him who he was and is.

The producers developed the theme beautifully

 

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  posted on 6/10/2019 at 05:15 PM
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Shatner did it better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wI4jMxveyI


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