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  posted on 6/9/2018 at 01:27 AM
The court will now hear the case of Andertull vs. Jethro Barre.



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  posted on 6/9/2018 at 08:59 PM
I go to anything Ian when it comes my way , I have enjoyed Tull music for a long time and always catch them or him whenever I can , what a performer , listened to Homo Erraticus this morning white painting .
 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 07:00 AM
thread title is a bit misleading. jethro tull hasn't toured in like 9 years. this is billed as Ian Andersons jethro tull or Ian Anderson of jethro tull or jethro tulls Ian Anderson.


Ian Andersons name is on all listings and the setlists are being loaded strictly as Ian Anderson

https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html




I'm posting this so people know as Ian said a tour without Martin on guitar would never be billed as a jethro tull tour and despite Ian blurring the lines more and more he still has never billed a tour in the last almost decade without his name on it

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 10:40 AM
All I've read has said that Anderson's voice is shot. Good to see you enjoyed the show, you can't beat the price of the ticket.

If you want to see another Tull member, catch Martin Barre if you can. Great show, amusing stories and he's still got the chops.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 12:13 PM
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Who's Martin Barre? Haha, ancient Tull fan here, since 1971, Locomotive Breath learned on guitar within two weeks of release of Aqualung, seen the live Passion Play tour. Very much looking forward to hearing Barre's group! Hopefully he has found a better vocalist. Fortunately Jethro Tull has never relied solely on Anderson's weak and abrasive nasal delivery. Btw, met Barre once on sidewalk outside show in Portland in 87, asked if they were hiring for road crew, he introduced me to the crew, very personable. Florian Ophale, the new guitarslinger is fantastic. Martin was noticeably not included in the introductions of the 26 past band members who have passed through Tull's revolving door line-up, which was sad.

I suggest you go see this band, have a listen, and then decide for yourself if it is Jethro Tull.

Jethro Tull is that onelegged flute player, right? If so, then "this was" most certainly a Jethro Tull show, or I am thick as a brick. But then again I could just be living in the past.



I don't have to judge because Anderson is not billing this tour as jethro tull so he says its not. I made my post in case some people here saw your thread title and fell under the impression that Anderson and Barre were together again and a band was touring under the tull name

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 01:25 PM
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Ian Anderson IS Jethro Tull, and has been since Day One.

No one who knows Tull well would be misled by the thread title, and those who don't know the band well, the vast majority, don't even care.

Your point is good I must say though, personnel shuffles can be disheartening. For example, every time I saw an Allman Brothers post here I was disappointed to discover that Dickey Betts was not back in the line-up.


your post makes no sense. there was a continuing band called the allman brother band. if someone thought an ex member was still in the band that's there issue


however this is different. there is NO BAND currently touring that is calling themselves jethro tull. I was making sure members here weren't getting confused . again totally different. if you consider Anderson to be jethro tull that is fine. he does not as he is not touring as jethro tull. here from the bands own website is the press release when the 50th anniversary celebration was announced. noticed the press release right at the top doesn't say jethro tull is touring. it says jetho tull's ian Anderson is touring

http://jethrotull.com/50th-anniversary-uk-tour-in-2018/




here from the bands own website as well is the USA tour announcement. notice what the tour is called
“Ian Anderson Presents: JETHRO TULL – 50th Anniversary Tour”
http://jethrotull.com/jethro-tull-50th-anniversary-usa-dates-announced/


here is a ticket site to purchase a USA ticket for a show. notice again it says “Ian Anderson Presents: JETHRO TULL – 50th Anniversary Tour”


http://tickets.kcstarlight.com/single/psdetail.aspx?psn=2434&tnewq=601b 957c-da6c-42b2-9d39-0e3a64430c5d&tnewp=6e69fa69-9397-4607-99fd-c99cb79a 0e2d&tnewts=1528654853&tnewc=kcstarlight&tnewe=051818&tnewr t=Safetynet&tnewh=34ce3386494773251844b29c6e9c72ef



whatever point you are making I was simply clarifying that jethro tull has not been active since like 2011 and is still not an active band. Ian Anderson has made several statements that he will never release an album or promote a tour as jethro tull without martin barre which is why I made my initial post. if someone had read one of Ians many comments and then saw you saying jethro tull is currently touring then they would assume Ian and Martin are together based on Ians own statements









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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 01:32 PM
here btw is a nice article with ian announcing jethro tull is over


https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6052275/ian-anderson-solo-album-hom o-erraticus-jethro-tull

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 02:08 PM
Martin Barre is a major factor of what this band has brought to the table. I love his guitar work from his riffmeister skills to his pick harmonics in full stride. Here's a couple from last year, Smokin' fun.

Crossroad Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldEUNUFtus

Love Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE8VNj6Y9UQ

Fat Man (w/intros)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9s28dNpZQ

Jig/Hymn 43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbIeVNgQBOw

Moment Of Madness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcpsT3g_ahw

Teacher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5igSX0AlSA

Eleanor Rigby/I Want You (She's So Heavy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9pTKmo4orc


 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 02:17 PM
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Ok ok, you are actually right, Ian Anderson never even liked the name Jethro Tull. Worth noting and honoring that. Now back to Tull:

Ok, serious fans only need answer, AND NO GOOGLING ALLOWED, (and folks who were kids in Britain in the 60s let your American friends stew a bit) : What Jethrian Andertull album does Biggles appear on, and extra points if you can tell us who Biggles was? Your own brains please, no web search!!!!




what are you talking about? I proved you wrong that the band jethro tull doesn't exist in any form in 2018 according to Anderson himself so you post that he must have hated the name all along.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 03:00 PM
the thread starter deleted all of his posts and changed the thread title and chickened out after he was proven wrong that jethro tull disbanded several years ago. I'd like to point out the very disrespectful comments made about Martin Barre implying Martin has been kicked out of jethro tull which are all slanderous lies. here was the post. he likens the allman brothers and lineup changes to this current ian Anderson tour without martin barre

Ian Anderson IS Jethro Tull, and has been since Day One.

No one who knows Tull well would be misled by the thread title, and those who don't know the band well, the vast majority, don't even care.

Your point is good I must say though, personnel shuffles can be disheartening. For example, every time I saw an Allman Brothers post here I was disappointed to discover that Dickey Betts was not back in the line-up.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2018 at 05:19 PM
Wha happened?

We all age, His vocals aren't strong as they once were, but a fan won't mind.

Tull 50th (I hate ads on the vid's)

My God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkwR7Dj97Q

Heavy Horses/Farm On The Freeway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ7aGcWb_5M

A Passion Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8WzijT-WU

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 08:21 AM
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All I've read has said that Anderson's voice is shot. Good to see you enjoyed the show, you can't beat the price of the ticket.

If you want to see another Tull member, catch Martin Barre if you can. Great show, amusing stories and he's still got the chops.


Rallied some mates from my college daze on a random Wednesday last March to see Martin Barre play his Guitar at Smith's Olde Bar in Atlanta. Stood 10 feet away and watched them crank out 2 hours worth of Tull classics, and other great tunes, sans that Flute~!!! Amazing show, would go see him again ANYTIME.

Check out Martin's Live at Daryll's House for some great playing of Tull songs.

Truly sad that Ian's "honoring / Presenting" Tull's 50th w/o Martin Barre. What a wanker.

Really don't mind if I light this J up... and tune in... to some Tull GUITAR!!!!

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 08:52 AM
Play all the games with words that you like and copy and paste a million articles.

The name advertised to play here is

Jethro Tull. No Ian Anderson presents stuff at all. Just Jethro Tull

Anderson toured without the "Tull" name and ticket sales do not come close to a show with the Jethro Tull name.

They can all say whatever BS that they like. He wants sales so he used the Tull name. I personally have no problem with that.

But the Ian Anderson Presents Jethro Tull name gets dropped in a flash and becomes Jethro Tull.

He knows full well what he is doing otherwise it would have been Ian Anderson.

You are playing a silly name game. The intention is to draw the casual fan of Tull regardless of who is playing. Again I have no problem with that although there is a pinch of illusion involved for sure.

Simply put - Search for Jethro Tull tour dates and see what happens. Dates. It is all a word game with an obvious intention.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 09:56 AM
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the thread starter deleted all of his posts and changed the thread title and chickened out after he was proven wrong that jethro tull disbanded several years ago. I'd like to point out the very disrespectful comments made about Martin Barre implying Martin has been kicked out of jethro tull which are all slanderous lies. here was the post. he likens the allman brothers and lineup changes to this current ian Anderson tour without martin barre


Calm down. Seems a bit of an overheated reaction. No need to start flaming me, sir. Please point out one "slanderous lie" I said about Martin Barre. I mentioned I met Barre in person and found him quite personable, that I am looking forward to seeing his bsnd, I've been a fan of Barre since I was a kid in 1971. That sounds more like support and praise to me.

I didn't "chicken out". I simply bagged the subject when it became obvious that a simple thread sharing enthusiasm over a show was spiraling down into a silly pissing match. Which seems to have be the SOP here.


 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 09:57 AM
LOL- I love the last thread title.

As with the band, the thread title evolves.

As with Dickey, go if you want and enjoy.

If I was Ian, I would call it Jethro Tull and f*ck anyone that doesn't like it.

He is 70 years old - does it matter WTF he calls it?

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 10:04 AM
LOL, actually, at the show I was thnking Ian has set up a good group here, all he needs now is a flute player and a topnotch vocalist and he could conduct, relax, mingle with fans, share a pint and enjoy his creation. He is first and foremost a composer after all.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 10:59 AM
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Play all the games with words that you like and copy and paste a million articles.

The name advertised to play here is

Jethro Tull. No Ian Anderson presents stuff at all. Just Jethro Tull

Anderson toured without the "Tull" name and ticket sales do not come close to a show with the Jethro Tull name.

They can all say whatever BS that they like. He wants sales so he used the Tull name. I personally have no problem with that.

But the Ian Anderson Presents Jethro Tull name gets dropped in a flash and becomes Jethro Tull.

He knows full well what he is doing otherwise it would have been Ian Anderson.

You are playing a silly name game. The intention is to draw the casual fan of Tull regardless of who is playing. Again I have no problem with that although there is a pinch of illusion involved for sure.

Simply put - Search for Jethro Tull tour dates and see what happens. Dates. It is all a word game with an obvious intention.




this tour yes that seems to happen. I have seen ian twice though in the last 6 years and both times ian Anderson was on the ticket and the marquee outside of the venue. I'd have to look but both times the ticket was sold as "jethro tulls ian Anderson" or "ian Anderson of jethro tull".


not sure this time if its venues trying to charge more or draw bigger crowds or whats going on. sadly he's not coming near me so I am unable to see what the venue would say on the ticket this time. they don't use ticketmaster thought so now sure if ticketmaster venues have prefilled information

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 11:05 AM
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the thread starter deleted all of his posts and changed the thread title and chickened out after he was proven wrong that jethro tull disbanded several years ago. I'd like to point out the very disrespectful comments made about Martin Barre implying Martin has been kicked out of jethro tull which are all slanderous lies. here was the post. he likens the allman brothers and lineup changes to this current ian Anderson tour without martin barre


Calm down. Seems a bit of an overheated reaction. No need to start flaming me, sir. Please point out one "slanderous lie" I said about Martin Barre. I mentioned I met Barre in person and found him quite personable, that I am looking forward to seeing his bsnd, I've been a fan of Barre since I was a kid in 1971. That sounds more like support and praise to me.

I didn't "chicken out". I simply bagged the subject when it became obvious that a simple thread sharing enthusiasm over a show was spiraling down into a silly pissing match. Which seems to have be the SOP here.





it wasn't a pissing match. no one even had to quote my OP ever again after I cleared it up that martin barre is not out touring along with ian Anderson this year.


as far as what you said. you implied he has been fired. you said lineup changes can be disheartening and compared it to the ABB going on after they fired betts. and you were sad to see dickey was still absent every time a new tour was announced. reading between the lines that is implying jethro tull are going on without martin barre and since the only way that would happen according to Ian is if martin was fired then we can see where you were going with that.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 11:33 AM
I have seen Ian a couple of times where it was billed as Ian Anderson. No confusion and obviously the die-hards know who he is. The theater was half full both times. Another tour had the Tull banner behind it (no matter how it was worded) and the place was pretty full. Same hall each time.

This time out there are a bunch of bigger shows like the Ottawa Bluesfest. No way does he get booked on a main stage as Ian Anderson and no way does he get the same money.

My feeling is that he deserves every cent whether he calls himself, Ian Anderson, Ian Anderson Presents or simply Jethro Tull.

As for Martin Barre, anyone that covers Govt Mule is alright by me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVpD8GnbcY

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 11:44 AM
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I have seen Ian a couple of times where it was billed as Ian Anderson. No confusion and obviously the die-hards know who he is. The theater was half full both times. Another tour had the Tull banner behind it (no matter how it was worded) and the place was pretty full. Same hall each time.

This time out there are a bunch of bigger shows like the Ottawa Bluesfest. No way does he get booked on a main stage as Ian Anderson and no way does he get the same money.

My feeling is that he deserves every cent whether he calls himself, Ian Anderson, Ian Anderson Presents or simply Jethro Tull.

As for Martin Barre, anyone that covers Govt Mule is alright by me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVpD8GnbcY


well I'm certainly not saying he doesn't deserve to be making money off of the tull name


 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 11:50 AM
Martin Barre made out pretty well in all this tullsh*t. He has the rights to perform music composed by Ian Anderson, from a band that was formed, led, maintained, managed and produced by Ian Anderson. That is an incredibly fair concession by Anderson.

And now we have two groups crankin out Tull ! It's a win-win for Tull fans!

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 12:31 PM
I take full credit as I told him to play as Tull when I saw him last. He just laughed. He signed my Broadsword for me which was pretty sweet. I have never gave a crap about autographs but some things are just cool. Now in 1000 years when someone discovers the sword - they will think some warrior named Ian Anderson owned it.

Not easy getting into a show while carrying a sword.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 12:44 PM
You walked into a Jethrian Andertull show carrying a broadsword?

 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 10:33 PM
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You walked into a Jethrian Andertull show carrying a broadsword?


As exciting as that image sounds, the sword entered through the back and it's arrival was not quite a Knights Of The Round Table moment.

Ian laughed and said "That must make you the Beast".


 

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  posted on 6/11/2018 at 11:35 PM

Nice. I bet he got a kick out of that. Tull geek that I am, I actually decoded the runes around the edges of that album cover. LOL we took that Broadsword song quite seriously, bracing for battle as the longboats approached our drunken basement.

 

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