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  posted on 9/8/2017 at 01:11 PM
Saw Clapton last night at MSG. Good not great; but rumors of his demise were obviously hasty (those wheelchair pictures when he deferred the tour were nasty

Show was about 1 hr 45 minutes; filled with hits never going deep into the playbook. Garden crowd was incredibly subdued (not a soul stood). Sure made me miss 2009 at the Beacon

 
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  posted on 9/8/2017 at 01:22 PM
i saw the 70th birthday show in MSG and a show during the last visit to MSG.

After seeing EC numerous times since the 70's,and always coming away pleased, the last 2 concerts were uninspired and quite boring.

The opening acts-fuzztone Gary Clark(a one trick pony) and very dull Jimmy Vaughn didn't help.
At the 70th BD show,Derek came out for a song and briefly, the music gained some, but not much,energy.The current band EC has is far my my favorite as well.

Glad i skipped it this time.Sounds like more of same.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2017 at 01:25 PM
Clapton is one of my all-time favorite artists but I would not be interested in seeing this tour. The Nathan East / Steve Gadd lineup bores me. Give me Willie Weeks/Steve Jordan to push him with Doyle Bramhall to add some heft (Doyle, Derek & Eric together was magic).

Any time EC hooks up with an Allman Brother, he captures lightening in a bottle (Duane obviously but also Chuck, Derek or the final ABB). To go from experiencing that to the a laid back affair....I'll pass.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2017 at 01:50 PM
I'd love to see Clapton tour with Winwood again, but this time have Winwood's band (who can smoke).

 

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  posted on 9/8/2017 at 03:18 PM
Next year Showtime is airing a Clapton documentary. Here is the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=nrAvDFmE9i4

 

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  posted on 9/10/2017 at 11:56 AM
review:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/eric-clapton-shows-slower-ha nd-lackluster-msg-show-article-1.3478931


 

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  posted on 9/10/2017 at 05:28 PM
My cousin saw him at the Garden in March, and was disappointed. He said that Clapton lacked energy, and didn't seem to be into it.

Then the reports came out that Clapton was pretty sick, and the shows in LA were cancelled.

My girlfriend and I saw the second show at the Garden on Friday. We've seen him many times over the years, and I have seen Slowhand mail it in with an unspired performance before. I also read the interviews which said this might be his last tour through the states.

Knowing all of this, including his nerve condition. I wasn't expecting much. I just wanted to see him.

I'm not a huge fan of either Jimmy Vaughn or Gary Clark Jr, and was happy when Clapton came on stage.

I have to say that I really enjoyed Clapton's set.

There were no surprises in the setlist. The only question in my mind was whether Layla would be plugged in or not (it was not). I thought he played with as much energy as one could expect, and the crowd did get on its feet - more than once.

I was happy to see him, and I'm glad he's still with us, and making music.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2017 at 08:58 PM
I've always said that EC needs a 2nd and/or 3rd guitarist to push him, keep him on his toes and not allowing him to mail the show in. Those shows with DBII and Derek Trucks, the Layla Tour, was the best I've seen him play.

Also by the way, if you get a chance to see Doyle Bramhall II go. I've seen him play at small clubs here in Buffalo and he always puts on a great show.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2017 at 12:45 PM
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My cousin saw him at the Garden in March, and was disappointed. He said that Clapton lacked energy, and didn't seem to be into it.

Then the reports came out that Clapton was pretty sick, and the shows in LA were cancelled.

My girlfriend and I saw the second show at the Garden on Friday. We've seen him many times over the years, and I have seen Slowhand mail it in with an unspired performance before. I also read the interviews which said this might be his last tour through the states.

Knowing all of this, including his nerve condition. I wasn't expecting much. I just wanted to see him.

I'm not a huge fan of either Jimmy Vaughn or Gary Clark Jr, and was happy when Clapton came on stage.

I have to say that I really enjoyed Clapton's set.

There were no surprises in the setlist. The only question in my mind was whether Layla would be plugged in or not (it was not). I thought he played with as much energy as one could expect, and the crowd did get on its feet - more than once.

I was happy to see him, and I'm glad he's still with us, and making music.


My experience was very much like yours. I was at one of the March shows and the Friday show from this tour. Due to the March show, my expectations were low. Clapton has aged a lot and even his fingers looked arthritic (seen in the monitor closeups). There were a lot more flashes of his past Friday than last March.

Gadd and East are clearly not the right pair for the Cream tunes. But in his present condition, I don;t think EC would have been able to hold up his end either.

He is still a master, and it was a pleasure to see him.

Going just by the setlist, if you don't like Lay Down Sally, you may be disappointed. But I thought his acoustic finger-picking during this tune was really nice. Tears In Heaven is still good for a pee break.

Remember this ailing 72 year old played lead and sang the entire show. Not too shabby.

I have no idea what anyone sees in either Vaughn or Clarke. We took our seats near the end of Vaughn's set, so I cannot comment much. I would describe Gary Clarke's set as several slow tunes, followed by a mediocre cover of Come Together, followed by a faster version of one of his slow songs.

Neither one could do justice to Clapton's solos when they were all on stage for the encore.

I look at the experience as a farewell performance by once of the absolute greats.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2017 at 08:24 PM
Here's a great interview with EC talking about the new documentary. Can't wait for this thing to be released!!

http://www.whereseric.com/eric-clapton-news/303-watch-eric-claptons-press-c onference-toronto-international-film-festival

 

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  posted on 9/12/2017 at 01:16 PM
I think that is the right way to look at these shows and set fair expectations.

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I look at the experience as a farewell performance by once of the absolute greats.


 

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  posted on 9/13/2017 at 11:23 AM
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I think that is the right way to look at these shows and set fair expectations.


Mmmmmm. "Problem" is...for a lot of fans, these shows are/were the first time they had/have seen EC Live. "Fair" expectations are set by those who appreciate and know music (Imho, a small percentage of concertgoers) for the rest it is B&W, either Fantastic or "what was that"?

Place me on the side with those "old" enough to have seen and experienced these guys in their prime. I understand they are out there for "the love of music" or maybe for the money. If it's for the love, share it, charge $20 at small venues, dig into the catalog, rehearse, go out there with minimal backing...just play. If it's for the $ and you are dependent on 20 piece bands and two other guitar players? I'm out and I'll remember the good old days...

 

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  posted on 9/13/2017 at 12:01 PM
i thought the ticket prices for Clapton were outrageous. MSG wanted over 500 a ticket for lower bowl seats. I heard him many times and as others have commented his shows have been extremely boring over the past few times. His acoustic is still there (or it was) but the electric did nothing to excite me.

So i passed on these shows when i saw the price and from the reviews i am glad i saved the money.

Looking forward to TTB at the Beacon next month

 

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  posted on 9/13/2017 at 12:49 PM
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i thought the ticket prices for Clapton were outrageous. MSG wanted over 500 a ticket for lower bowl seats. I heard him many times and as others have commented his shows have been extremely boring over the past few times. His acoustic is still there (or it was) but the electric did nothing to excite me.

So i passed on these shows when i saw the price and from the reviews i am glad i saved the money.

Looking forward to TTB at the Beacon next month


Not just the floor seats were $500, but a lot of the lower part of the side sections as well. This was not a show I "needed" to see, so I waiting until 5PM and got a pair of floor tickets for less than half the face value.

 

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