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ALEX JONES CALLS CHARLOTTESVILLE VIOLENCE A FALSE FLAG, BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE FACTS ARE STILL A THING
BY ALEXANDER NAZARYAN ON 8/13/17 AT 7:31 AM

George Soros did it. Or maybe it was the Deep State. That was the reaction of the far right to Saturday’s violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, which left three dead. Even as images played on television of James Alex Fields, Jr., plowing his car into a crowd protesting the Unite the Right rally, a counter-narrative was coalescing on the Internet that offered a competing reality, one that had little grounding in confirmable fact.

The disconnect between what most Americans saw or read about the events in Charlottesville, where white nationalists had gathered to protest the removal of a Confederate statue, and what the far right told itself about the very same events, suggests that nearly a year after fake news helped elect a president, alternative facts remain as alluring, and persuasive, as they have ever been.

For the extreme right, Charlottesville was not a cautionary tale about emboldened white supremacists who appear to have found troubling succor in the presidential administration of Donald J. Trump. Instead, the entire Unite the Right rally was potentially a false flag perpetrated by the Democrats and their enablers in the Deep State, a nonexistent figment of the right-wing imagination that invokes a network of career federal and military officials seeking to bring down Donald Trump. A global network of elites, many of them Jewish, may also have been involved, according to this version of events.

A false flag is a diversionary tactic employed in battle at sea. Today, it most commonly refers to a government staging a terrorist attack it subsequently uses to malign and possibly prosecute forces hostile to the establishment. The notion of pervasive “false flags” has been popularized by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, founder of Infowars. According to Jones, the attacks of 9/11 were a false flags, as was the murder of 20 children at the Sandy Hook elementary school in 2012.

Jones presented his depressingly predictable explanation of what transpired in Charlottesville in a video posted on Saturday. “EXCLUSIVE: Virginia Riots Staged To Bring In Martial Law, Ban Conservative Gatherings,” the headline read. The video was an hour-long diatribe against some of Jones’s favorite targets, including liberal philanthropist George Soros, Black Lives Matter, globalists, elitists, the Democrats, the Republicans and anarchists, among many others. However, Jones failed to provide even remotely compelling evidence that anyone of these forces was directly responsible for the weekend’s violence (Fields killed one woman with his car, while two Virginia State Police officers died when their helicopter crashed en route to Charlottesville).

At one point, Jones appeared to suggest that the Southern Poverty Law Center was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. Jones also claimed that the media had failed to cover widespread assaults on families of Trump supporters in Washington, D.C., during January’s presidential inauguration.

Jones is hardly the only Charlottesville conspiracy theorist desperately trying to protect the alt-right from accusations of violence. The most far-flung of these have focused on Fields, the 20-year-old Ohio man who drove his car into a gather of counterprotestors, killing one and injuring 19. Fields was subsequently apprehended and is now being held at Albermarle-Charlottesville County Regional Jail. He will be arraigned on Monday, likely on second degree murder charges.

Some on the far right, however, have suggested that Fields was a government agent provocateur sent to cause havoc that would ultimately be blamed on Unite the Right and its constituent factions.

“The CIA drove that car into the crowd,” wrote a user on 4chan, the social network popular with the far right. “The CIA crashed that Helicopter.”

“Appears to be the perfect set-up to win sympathy for the violent left, while demonizing the right,” another 4chan user wrote, listing a bevy of reasons for why Fields was a patsy.

While others did not attempt to argue away Fields’s culpability, they nevertheless sought to prove that the entire Unite the Right rally was an event sponsored by the left to discredit the right. Some took the coincidental fact that Saturday was the birthday of Soros, the Hungarian-American liberal philanthropist, as proof of his involvement. Soros is often invoked by conspiracy theorists as a symbol of a global, Jewish elite, one at counter with Trump and his nationalist agenda.

“I think it was a false flag. Unfortunately people were killed and injured. This is Soros' minions and our corrupt government causing civil unrest,” a user identifying herself as Christine Ramirez wrote on Gab, another social media platform popular with extremist elements.

Others noted that Soros offers financial support to the American Civil Liberties Union, among many other organizations. The ACLU had filed suit to allow Unite the Right to congregate in Charlottesville, in keeping with its mission of protecting First Amendment rights. Some, however, thought the organization was acting on Soros’s orders.

Varieties of this narrative were endorsed by some of the alt-right’s loudest voices:

Others yet blamed the Deep State, a concept popularized in part by chief White House political strategist Stephen K. Bannon, who some have branded a white nationalist and anti-Semite. Bannon is the former chairman of Breitbart News, which he boasted was “the platform for the alt-right.” (A Newsweek email query to Bannon about the events in Charlottesville went unanswered.)

“Does anybody doubt that the Deep State has the ability to take over control of cars and trucks and drive them into crowds? Not saying that happened today. But I guarantee you it will if it suits their agenda,” wrote a user identified as ShareThisMeme on /r/The_Donald, a section of Reddit where supporters of the president trade memes and conspiracy theories.

The broadest of the false flag theories charges that the modern Democratic Party is grounded firmly in the principles of the Nazi party and is therefore responsible for all manner of intolerance at work in American society today. The tortured argument was recently popularized by right-wing pundit Dinesh D’Souza in The Big Lie. Earlier this month, D’Souza visited the White House, where he discussed The Big Lie with Bannon and Sebastian Gorka, a White House adviser who has also been accused of having ties to extremist groups. On Saturday, D’Souza took to Twitter to promote that argument, even as many other figures in the conservative movement were condemning Unite the Right.

The far right also rejoiced in Trump’s statement that the violence in Charlottesville had come from “many sides.” In failing to explicitly condemn the white supremacist, Trump proved far more effective than any false flag theory in shifting the blame away from those who seem to plainly deserve it.

 

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He should be beaten into a "grease spot".
 

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Is it something in the water? How do people get so dumb and crazy? What's going on?

 

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Is it something in the water? How do people get so dumb and crazy? What's going on?


Were you not just praising Alex Jones in another thread ? It is a good question though how anyone could be stupid enough to listen to that cretin.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2017 at 11:25 AM
I don't think I was praising Jones, maybe sounded that way, I do happen to agree with his views on some things, such as 9-11. He was pretty much the first person to make any sense of that. False flags are a real thing, but he has certainly gone off the rails over the last few years. People change.
 

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I don't think I was praising Jones, maybe sounded that way, I do happen to agree with his views on some things, such as 9-11. He was pretty much the first person to make any sense of that. False flags are a real thing, but he has certainly gone off the rails over the last few years. People change.


Alrighty then.

 

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No point in defending here. You are entitled to your opinion based on your discernment, as am I.

 

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I was not aware there was a group of so called far right people who want to do protests like the groups on the other side, but I guess as time goes by, we will see that more and more. Who funds them and if there is an alternative agenda of the group is not known yet. I mean we know the Klan and their agenda, I think it may be a little while till we know the real motives of any groups that want to rally and protest, so Alex may be reaching a little bit to label this a false flag attack. His heart's in the right place though, he wants to call out corruption, collusion when he finds it.

 

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this right here shows how sick these groups are.

i can't even post the headline to this crap.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https:/www.dailystormer.com/heat her-heyer-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-was-a-fat-childless-32-year-ol d-slut/

 

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I was not aware there was a group of so called far right people who want to do protests like the groups on the other side, but I guess as time goes by, we will see that more and more. Who funds them and if there is an alternative agenda of the group is not known yet. I mean we know the Klan and their agenda, I think it may be a little while till we know the real motives of any groups that want to rally and protest, so Alex may be reaching a little bit to label this a false flag attack. His heart's in the right place though, he wants to call out corruption, collusion when he finds it.


He's a bullsh!t spewing, barrel of sh!t with legs, that appeals to losers and **** -wits.

 

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this right here shows how sick these groups are.

i can't even post the headline to this crap.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https:/www.dailystormer.com/heat her-heyer-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-was-a-fat-childless-32-year-ol d-slut/
They should all be euthanized, they will never have any value to society.

 

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I was not aware there was a group of so called far right people who want to do protests like the groups on the other side, but I guess as time goes by, we will see that more and more. Who funds them and if there is an alternative agenda of the group is not known yet. I mean we know the Klan and their agenda, I think it may be a little while till we know the real motives of any groups that want to rally and protest, so Alex may be reaching a little bit to label this a false flag attack. His heart's in the right place though, he wants to call out corruption, collusion when he finds it.




Those people in Charlottesville were marching with Nazi flags and chanting "Heil Trump". I think we understand their motives. And if you need a refresher course, go read about World War II and how many people died fighting the Nazis.

 

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Can't click that link. I think I get the idea. Gonna bury my head in the sand on this one, LH, just reading the link makes me ill. I have a workday to get thru here, man, it's just sad.

I guess it is all boiling down to global and local tensions are so high right now the best we can do is calm down, relax, breathe and try to be on our best behavior so we don't feed the dragon's wrath.

Don't know if it is just me, but I am seeing this conflict everywhere, here, in traffic, on lines, at home, people are locked and loaded.

Slow down. Don't tailgate. Open doors for people. Give the cardboard guy a quarter. Make eye contact and say hello even if folks are bluetoothed and blindered. Turn up the Allman Brothers on your stereo and visualize blue skies and river lullabyes.

 

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/world/american-man-nazi-salute-germany-trnd/i ndex.html

Drunk American punched for making 'Nazi salute' in German bar

 

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I was not aware there was a group of so called far right people who want to do protests like the groups on the other side, but I guess as time goes by, we will see that more and more. Who funds them and if there is an alternative agenda of the group is not known yet. I mean we know the Klan and their agenda, I think it may be a little while till we know the real motives of any groups that want to rally and protest, so Alex may be reaching a little bit to label this a false flag attack. His heart's in the right place though, he wants to call out corruption, collusion when he finds it.




"His heart's in the right place"?!!. Sandy Hook was a hoax?!? You, gina, are pure insanity, delusion and stupidity distilled into evil.

 

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I did not say Sandy Hook was a hoax, but I did see a video of one of the people who was interviewed was the SAME person interviewed at the Boston Bombing attack. The attack at Sandy Hook was real, real reporters were on the scene, we covered it extensively on this site.

 

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I did not say Sandy Hook was a hoax, but I did see a video of one of the people who was interviewed was the SAME person interviewed at the Boston Bombing attack. The attack at Sandy Hook was real, real reporters were on the scene, we covered it extensively on this site.




No, but Jones did and you say that his heart is in the right place. Nobody who would doubt the massacre of those children has his heart in the right place. The man makes a living making outlandish claims to suckers who think the rest of the world is out to get them.

 

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I did not say Sandy Hook was a hoax, but I did see a video of one of the people who was interviewed was the SAME person interviewed at the Boston Bombing attack. The attack at Sandy Hook was real, real reporters were on the scene, we covered it extensively on this site.




No, but Jones did and you say that his heart is in the right place. Nobody who would doubt the massacre of those children has his heart in the right place. The man makes a living making outlandish claims to suckers who think the rest of the world is out to get them.


His heart isn't in the right place but just like gina, his head is firmly up his ass.

 

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I did not say Sandy Hook was a hoax, but I did see a video of one of the people who was interviewed was the SAME person interviewed at the Boston Bombing attack. The attack at Sandy Hook was real, real reporters were on the scene, we covered it extensively on this site.




No, but Jones did and you say that his heart is in the right place. Nobody who would doubt the massacre of those children has his heart in the right place. The man makes a living making outlandish claims to suckers who think the rest of the world is out to get them.


He doesn't even have a heart to begin with. He is pure evil.

 

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Wow LH, that link was brutal - real sad, but thanks for the eye-opener. That Andrew Anglin malevolent metastasizing cancer would benefit greatly from trans-cortical lead therapy.

Weird, I read his bio on the Southern Poverty Law Center website, turns out the guy started out as a dreadlocked vegan liberal who was outspoken against racism and homophobia, then morphed into an extreme rightwing nazi . . .

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/andrew-a nglin

 

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Wow LH, that link was brutal - real sad, but thanks for the eye-opener. That Andrew Anglin malevolent metastasizing cancer would benefit greatly from trans-cortical lead therapy.

Weird, I read his bio on the Southern Poverty Law Center website, turns out the guy started out as a dreadlocked vegan liberal who was outspoken against racism and homophobia, then morphed into an extreme rightwing nazi . . .

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/andrew-a nglin



How about another reminder of what a despicable piece of poop Alex Jones is. ( and ALWAYS was )

x Jones’ mind works in strangely anti-Semitic ways.

The conspiracy theorist, creator of InfoWars and host of “The Alex Jones Show” on the Genesis Communications Network and WWCR in Austin, Texas, is now peddling a theory that “Unite the Right” protesters were Jewish actors disguised as Nazis.

The actors, Jones believes, were inciting violence to quell conservative unity.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alex-jones-attributes-virginia-vio lence-jewish-actors-article-1.3410982

 

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That is weird for sure. Wonder how Alex Jones' Jewish wife feels about that stuff? Actually, I read in the above linked SPLC article that Alex Jones had come under fire from Andrew Anglin because his wife is Jewish, "Operation Jewish Wife", attacking Jones because he married a Jew.

Curiouser and curiouser.

(btw tbo I get it, you are tappin me because I happen to share a couple of Jones' views. That is all I said. Doesn't mean I like the guy. He is a fat egomaniac. I liked Obama a lot, but that doesn't mean I supported his Monsanto thugs, but he did a good job and I liked his personality. I voted for Hillary, not ashamed of it, doesn't mean I liked her or her dirt, I just thought she was the best person for the job. Voted for McCain for senator in AZ, even though he is a crazy old fvck. And so on. Trump? Different story. Don't like him, don't like anything he says, he's just an @sshole.)

Discernment. Go figure, a guy who voted for Clinton who thinks Obama was a Monsanto whore and values Alex Jones' analysis of 9-11 over Popular Mechanics. Only in America.)

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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LH...stirring the pot instead of smoking it I see.




lol yes i stirred the pot by posting what alex jones said, i'm a bad bad man.

[Edited on 8/15/2017 by LeglizHemp]

 

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the alt-right is so mistreated

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kkyxy/fbi-nabs-anti-government-extremis t-in-foiled-oklahoma-city-bomb-plot-vgtrn

FBI Nabs Anti-Government Extremist in Foiled Oklahoma City Bomb Plot
DREW SCHWARTZ
Aug 14 2017, 6:15pm

Jerry Drake Varnell allegedly subscribed to "Three Percenter" ideology and hoped to "cripple the government" with the blast by targeting a local bank.

On Saturday, the FBI arrested a 23-year-old man for allegedly plotting to set off a 1,000-pound bomb near a bank building in Oklahoma City, an attack the bureau says was motivated by a broad hatred of the US government, the Washington Post reports.

Jerry Drake Varnell allegedly spent months planning the attack with a co-conspirator who—unbeknownst to him—was actually an undercover FBI agent. Varnell, who voiced a deep-seated contempt for the US government, allegedly mulled targeting government buildings in Maryland and Washington, DC, along with a Bank of America data center in Texas. Ultimately, he took aim at a BancFirst building in Oklahoma City, according to a criminal complaint.

On Friday, he allegedly watched as his 1,000-pound bomb was constructed before driving it, in a van, to an alley near the bank building. Little did Varnell know that the bomb was actually a dud, and when he tried to detonate it shortly after midnight, it never went off, Reuters reports. After two attempted detonations, he was arrested.

According to court papers, Varnell subscribes to "Three Percenter" ideology: a bizarre anti-government group that believes only 3 percent of the colonial population participated in the American Revolution. The group's followers claim to be heirs to members of that slim contingent. The feds also said Varnell was inspired by Timothy McVeigh, who was executed in 2001 for bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people. Varnell's bomb targeted a bank building just blocks from the Murrah building.

Though Varnell originally wanted his would-be attack to claim lives—he reportedly said he was "out for blood"—eventually, he resolved to minimize any casualties, according to court papers. Apparently, all he cared about was an attack that could "somehow cripple the government," the Post reports. "Something that sends a message that says, 'You are a target.'"

Varnell is slated to make his first appearance in federal court on Monday on a charge of attempted destruction of a building by means of an explosive. If convicted, he faces up to 20 years in prison.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 03:57 PM

20 years? He should be used as a mine-detector.

 

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