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  posted on 8/26/2018 at 01:38 PM
"A federal judge in Washington has struck down keys parts of President Trump's executive orders that would have made it easier to fire federal employees.

The ruling, seen as a victory for public-sector unions, follows the president's signing of three executive orders in May that aimed to give agencies more power in terminating employees deemed poor performers, and encouraged them to renegotiate contracts with unions that represent government employees. The orders also narrowed the definition of "official time" that federal workers in union positions can spend on union business when they're at work.

The Trump administration viewed the orders as a way of saving taxpayers millions of dollars and slimming down government bureaucracy.

But U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson ruled late Friday that the orders exceeded the president's authority.

Jackson wrote in her opinion that the president can issue executive orders over labor-management relations, but not if executive actions conflict with collective bargaining rights guaranteed under federal law.

"And because many of the executive order provisions that the unions challenge here have that effect, this court concludes that the President has overstepped his bounds," Jackson wrote in her 119-page opinion.

Labor leaders celebrated the ruling as an affirmation of the judiciary's ability to check executive action that goes too far.

"President Trump's illegal action was a direct assault on the legal rights and protections that Congress specifically guaranteed to the public-sector employees across this country who keep our federal government running every single day," said J. David Cox Sr., national president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents about 700,000 federal employees and workers with the government of the District of Columbia.

Sarah Suszczyk, deputy general counsel at the National Association of Government Employees, told NPR that Trump's executive orders were an "anti-labor, anti-middle class effort" seeking to curtail the influence of employees in the workplace.

"If the administration seeks to have changes in regard to the federal workforce, legislation is the way to do it, not through unlawful executive orders," she said.

Tony Reardon, the president of the National Treasury Employees Union, said the judge's order demonstrates that the president is not above the law. He said the executive orders undermined the federal civil service law.

"Congress meant for unions and agencies to bargain over how official time and grievance procedures can best be used to help employees and agencies work better together," Reardon said. "It was wrong for the President, through unilateral, executive fiat, to ban bargaining over such matters."

The pay of federal employees is set by Congress, but federal public-sector unions are generally considered to have far more strength than private sector unions, which have been declining for years and now represent just about 6.5 percent of the privatized workforce. The public sector, by contrast, has about 34 percent of its workers represented by unions, according to federal labor statistics.

Yet labor advocates worried those numbers would start to erode following a June decision by the Supreme Court that made paying "fair share" dues that covered the cost of collective bargaining optional for public-sector workers who chose not to join the union. The 5-4 ruling was widely considered a major blow to organized labor.

The White House referred questions about the decision on the executive orders to the Department of Justice, which says it is still reviewing the judge's decision and weighing options.

Copyright NPR 2018."

 
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I continue to be baffled as to how anyone believed Trump was the friend of middle class Americans....He's been f*cking the low and middle class his entire adult life. Nothing he's done since he entered the White House has changed that.

Even the tax cut, a bill he championed but was mostly accomplished by Paul Ryan and McConnel, does far more to benefit the upper class than the low or middle....

 

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  posted on 8/26/2018 at 04:15 PM
This judge is a left-wing political activist. Her decision won't last long.
Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was appointed by Obama.


 

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I continue to be baffled as to how anyone believed Trump was the friend of middle class Americans....He's been f*cking the low and middle class his entire adult life. Nothing he's done since he entered the White House has changed that.

Even the tax cut, a bill he championed but was mostly accomplished by Paul Ryan and McConnel, does far more to benefit the upper class than the low or middle....
Some people are gullible sheep, and will believe its raining when trump and republicants are pissing on their heads.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2018 at 05:20 PM
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This judge is a left-wing political activist. Her decision won't last long.
Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was appointed by Obama.




No, it was Trump's executive order that didn't last long.

 

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I continue to be baffled as to how anyone believed Trump was the friend of middle class Americans....He's been f*cking the low and middle class his entire adult life. Nothing he's done since he entered the White House has changed that.

Even the tax cut, a bill he championed but was mostly accomplished by Paul Ryan and McConnel, does far more to benefit the upper class than the low or middle....
Some people are gullible sheep, and will believe its raining when trump and republicants are pissing on their heads.


The marginal voters that he convinced would benefit from his policies are now getting a taste of his medicine. Look at the impact of tariffs & trade wars. Look no further than farmers in Iowa & Wisconsin. Look at the impact of tariffs to steel workers who voted in Pennsylvania for Don The Con.

You wonder how many voters that show up at his rallies wearing the MAGA hats and "rather be Russian than democrat t-shirts" don't even know they're getting screwed. It's a cult mentality.

 

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This judge is a left-wing political activist. Her decision won't last long.
Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was appointed by Obama.




No, it was Trump's executive order that didn't last long.


Wrong again.
The SCOTUS ruling will force this political activist judge's decision into the toilet where it belongs.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2018 at 07:06 PM
Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.
 

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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.

 

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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2018 at 08:32 PM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.

 

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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 03:35 AM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.


Where do you buy you’re hallucinogens? Life must be fun when you live in an alternate reality...... SON

 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 09:13 AM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.



Informed people already know the things you constantly need explained and also know how to source factual information.

You ignorance is your problem.

So while you go off on an issue not relevant to the thread the informed know that this left-wing activist judge's ruling won't last long.



 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 10:40 AM
I'm beginning to think there's not a rational, respectful conversation to be had here.

 

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I'm beginning to think there's not a rational, respectful conversation to be had here.



Welcome to the Whipping Post.
Different people are entitled to and do have varying opinions.
Some are based on facts and then there are the others...

 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 01:48 PM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.


Slurping the rancid koolaid dispensed thru Fox News enables the lazy minded subscription to absurd conspiracy theories the likes of which TrumptyDumpty perpetuates. Executive orders my ass!

 

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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.


Slurping the rancid koolaid dispensed thru Fox News enables the lazy minded subscription to absurd conspiracy theories the likes of which TrumptyDumpty perpetuates. Executive orders my ass!



Yea right.
Fox News is not the only legitimate media outlet reporting the facts on this issue but they continue to be the most watched and most trusted by the American People.

 

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Section 232 Tariffs on Aluminum and Steel
Duty on Imports of Steel and Aluminum Articles under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962

UPDATE: Additional Duty on Imports of Steel and Aluminum Articles under Section 232

Related CSMS: 18-000240, 18-000249, 18-000257, 18-000258, 18-000296, 18-000317, 18-000352, 18-000372, 18-000377, 18-000378, 000412, 18-000477

BACKGROUND

On March 8, 2018, the President issued Proclamations 9704 and 9705 on Adjusting Imports of Steel and Aluminum into the United States, under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1862), providing for additional import duties for steel mill and aluminum articles, effective March 23, 2018. See the Federal Register, 83 FR 11619 and 83 FR 11625, March 15, 2018. On March 22, 2018, the President issued Proclamations on Adjusting Imports of Steel and Aluminum into the United States. See the Federal Register, 83 FR 13355 and 83 FR 13361, March 28, 2018. On April 30, 2018, the President issued Proclamations 9739 and 9740 on Adjusting Imports of Steel and Aluminum into the United States. See the Federal Register, 83 FR 20683 and 83 FR 20677, May 7, 2018. On May 31, 2018, the President issued Proclamations on Adjusting Imports of Steel and Aluminum into the United States.

These duty requirements are effective with respect to goods entered, or withdrawn from warehouse for consumption, on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on March 23, 2018.


COMMODITY


Steel mill and aluminum articles, as specified in the Presidential Proclamations.



COUNTRIES COVERED BY SECTION 232 IMPORT DUTIES

Please note that the Section 232 measures are based on the country of origin, not the country of export.


Steel

As of June 1, 2018: All countries of origin except Argentina, Australia, Brazil, and South Korea.

Aluminum

As of June 1, 2018: All countries of origin except Argentina and Australia.

COUNTRIES COVERED BY SECTION 232 ABSOLUTE QUOTAS
Steel

As of June 1, 2018: Argentina, Brazil, and South Korea.

Aluminum

As of June 1, 2018: Argentina.

For both steel and aluminum, imports of United States origin are not covered by the Section 232 measures.

FILING INSTRUCTIONS
Section 232 Import Duties

Use non-quota entry type codes.

UPDATE: As of June 1, 2018, for all imports of aluminum from South Korea, importers should also use non-quota entry type codes.

Steel Products

In addition to reporting the regular Chapters 72 and 73 of the Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) classification for the imported merchandise, importers shall report the following HTS classification for imported merchandise subject to the additional duty: 9903.80.01 (25 percent ad valorem additional duty for steel mill products).

Steel articles covered by the Section 232 remedy that are the product of the Republic of Turkey (Turkey) are subject to an increased ad valorem duty rate. Steel articles from Turkey will be subject to an ad valorem duty rate of 50%.

The increased rates of duty on steel articles that are the product of Turkey are effective with respect to goods entered, or withdrawn from warehouse for consumption, on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on August 13, 2018.

In addition to reporting the regular Chapters 72 & 73 of the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS) classification for the imported merchandise, importers shall report the following HTSUS classification for imported merchandise subject to the additional duty:

9903.80.02 (50% ad valorem duty rate for products of iron and steel that are the product of Turkey).

Aluminum Products

In addition to reporting the regular Chapter 76 of the HTS classification for the imported merchandise, importers shall report the following HTS classification for imported merchandise subject to the additional duty:

9903.85.01 (10 percent ad valorem additional duty for aluminum products)

SECTION 232 ABSOLUTE QUOTAS

Use quota entry type codes (entry types 02, 06, 07, 12, 23, 32, 38, or 52).

For further guidance, see CBP quota bulletins at https://www.cbp.gov/trade/quota/bulletins


GENERALIZED SYSTEM OF PREFERENCES (GSP) AND AFRICAN GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY ACT (AGOA)
GSP and AGOA-eligible goods that are subject to Section 232 duties or quotas may not receive GSP or AGOA duty preference in accordance with 19 USC 2463(b)(2).

On imports subject to Section 232 duties or quotas (including imports from Argentina and Brazil), in addition to any applicable Section 232 duties, importers should pay the normal trade relations (column 1) duty rates and not submit the GSP Special Program Indicator (SPI) “A” or the AGOA SPI “D”.

OTHER TRADE PREFERENCE PROGRAMS AND FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS
Trade preference may be claimed for all preference programs with the exception of GSP and AGOA, as stated above. Importers making a trade preference claim under a program other than GSP or AGOA may continue to receive the preferential duty rate and any MPF exemption that may apply in accordance with 19 CFR 24.23(c). Section 232 duties must be paid on imports subject to Section 232 even if trade preferences apply.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Chapter 98

Imports subject to Section 232 duties imported under subheading 9802.00.60 shall be assessed Section 232 duties based upon the full value of the imported article.

Imports of U.S. origin are not subject to Section 232 duties.

Foreign Trade Zones

Any steel or aluminum article, except those eligible for admission under “domestic status” as defined in 19 CFR 146.43, subject to the Section 232 duties, that is admitted into U.S. foreign trade zones on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on March 23, 2018, must be admitted as “privileged foreign status” as defined in 19 CFR 146.41, and will be subject upon entry for consumption to any ad valorem rates of duty related to the classification under the applicable Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) subheading.

Any steel or aluminum article, except those eligible for admission under “domestic status” as defined in 19 CFR 146.43, subject to the 232 duties, that was admitted into U.S. foreign trade zones under "privileged foreign status" as defined in 19 CFR 146.41, prior to 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on March 23, 2018, will likewise be subject upon entry for consumption to any ad valorem rates of duty related to the classification under applicable Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) subheadings imposed by the Proclamations.

Aluminum or steel articles shall not be subject upon entry for consumption to Section 232 duties, merely by reason of manufacture in a U.S. foreign trade zone. However, articles admitted to a U.S. foreign trade zone in “privileged foreign status,” shall retain that status consistent with 19 CFR 146.41(e).

The merchandise covered by the additional duties and quota may also be subject to antidumping and countervailing duties.

Drawback

No drawback shall be available with respect to the Section 232 duties imposed on any aluminum or steel article.

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/entry-summary/232-tariffs -aluminum-and-steel


 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 04:58 PM
So Bhawk approves of massive U.S. trade deficits, other countries having far higher tariffs on U.S. goods and the unfair trade practices imposed on the U.S.

He does make the perfect anti-American far-left extremist.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 04:59 PM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.


Slurping the rancid koolaid dispensed thru Fox News enables the lazy minded subscription to absurd conspiracy theories the likes of which TrumptyDumpty perpetuates. Executive orders my ass!



Yea right.
Fox News is not the only legitimate media outlet reporting the facts on this issue but they continue to be the most watched and most trusted by the American People.

You are STILL, a clueless clown.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 05:02 PM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.


Slurping the rancid koolaid dispensed thru Fox News enables the lazy minded subscription to absurd conspiracy theories the likes of which TrumptyDumpty perpetuates. Executive orders my ass!



Yea right.
Fox News is not the only legitimate media outlet reporting the facts on this issue but they continue to be the most watched and most trusted by the American People.

You are STILL, a clueless clown.



Yet I am still right and you haven't a clue.


 

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  posted on 8/27/2018 at 05:10 PM
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Need more tariffs. The original round worked quite well. A testimony to Kudlow & Trump - so much bigly results. People getting hosed.


Because of the tariffs Europe has already caved and the NAFTA negotiations are almost done and President Trump is about to score yet another major win for the U.S.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool and are working out to the benefit of the American People.



Mule, let's try a hypothetical. Let's say a country, let's call them Country A, manufactures widgets that are not manufactured in the USA. They sell these widgets in the US for $25.00. Trump puts a 20% tariff on it. So now, the cost is $30.00. Now the American people buy the widget for $30.00. The tariff was paid by the American people. If America stops buying the widgets, Country A sells the to other markets.

Now let's expand this. Let's say the good ol' USA also makes widgets and they cost $27.00. Now, of course, the imported widgets are more expensive at $30.00. So they don't sell them to the US anymore, but now expand their market to include Country B. Country B buys widgets and from Country A because they are cheaper. Now Country B sells aluminum to the USA which we use to manufacture widgets. But tariffs on aluminum cause the price to rise and the cost for an American widget is now $32.00. But now, Country B sells aluminum to Country A at a discount and the cost of widgets made by Country A drops even more and America can no longer compete, costing jobs. This is the opposite of what Trump is trying to accomplish.

This is oversimplified, but if you expand it to cover all of the things that have tariffs applied, it is bad for the USA.

A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.



Your oversimplified hypothetical simply demonstrates your lack of understanding how the tariffs are a key tool in trade negotiations.

“A good example of how this is having an adverse effect is the cost of canned drinks like beer and soda have risen because of aluminum tariffs.”

That is the farcical rant of the corrupt liberal media.

The actual effect is unknown now because few of those tariffs have been used and industry experts set the possible increase in the future will be about five cents per six-pack and only if all of those tariff actually go into effect.

There is a difference between announcing a tariff as a negotiation tactic and actually putting the tariff into effect.



You can take your bs phrase “corrupt liberal media” and stick it. When you have no answer you say “corrupt liberal media” or “it has been widely reported” or “fake news”. If you can’t back up your lies, STFU. You are a nothing but a moronic internet troll.


Slurping the rancid koolaid dispensed thru Fox News enables the lazy minded subscription to absurd conspiracy theories the likes of which TrumptyDumpty perpetuates. Executive orders my ass!



Yea right.
Fox News is not the only legitimate media outlet reporting the facts on this issue but they continue to be the most watched and most trusted by the American People.

You are STILL, a clueless clown.



Yet I am still right and you haven't a clue.


You are a barrel of sh!t with legs.

 

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So Bhawk approves of massive U.S. trade deficits, other countries having far higher tariffs on U.S. goods and the unfair trade practices imposed on the U.S.

He does make the perfect anti-American far-left extremist.



I posted a policy, and anyone with even remedial reading comprehension reading this entire thread can figure out why. I wonder if you can?

 

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So Bhawk approves of massive U.S. trade deficits, other countries having far higher tariffs on U.S. goods and the unfair trade practices imposed on the U.S.

He does make the perfect anti-American far-left extremist.



I posted a policy, and anyone with even remedial reading comprehension reading this entire thread can figure out why. I wonder if you can?



You posted a very limited snippet of the tariffs issue.
A clear post would have included the tariffs other countries impose on the U.S., the trade imbalance the U.S. suffers and how tariffs are a tool in trade negotiations.

You went the route of the corrupt liberal media and pick only a small part of the issue.




 
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