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  posted on 10/17/2017 at 10:07 AM
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And remember Ya'll, no smoking that Evil Weed either!!!!!!...........Peace............joe

 
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  posted on 10/17/2017 at 11:57 AM
The bill was passed unanimously. Obama signed it without fanfare or reservation. They are all posers. They should just legalize the dope. The obvious reason they don't is someone will lose money. When I was dealing with the pain before hip surgery there were all kinds of fees in the pipeline. Every doctor visit cost money. Each doctor's visit I had to take a pee test. LabCorp cashed in on those. Congress sucks. Hypocrites.

Just like the NFL, an organization that do their best to not pay taxes and fleece tax payers for new stadiums, dares to lecture the American public about Patriotism. They have a fare trade exemption to fix ticket prices and charge ridiculous prices for food at the games and they dare to lecture about patriotism. This country is ass backwards.

 

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Just like the NFL, an organization that do their best to not pay taxes and fleece tax payers for new stadiums, dares to lecture the American public about Patriotism. They have a fare trade exemption to fix ticket prices and charge ridiculous prices for food at the games and they dare to lecture about patriotism. This country is ass backwards.


If it's not OK for an NFL team to lecture about patriotism, is it OK for a player to turn a football game into a platform for his political protest?

 

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  posted on 10/17/2017 at 07:47 PM
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And remember Ya'll, no smoking that Evil Weed either!!!!!!...........Peace............joe


Thank You for posting this, a subject I am VERY interested in. And yes, as you say..........the hypocrisy going on is beyond belief.

I should know. I was just denied employment a few weeks ago because I tested positive for marijuana. I'm a Respiratory Therapist. I have a hospital out of town (Redding, CA) which requested to have me back, they liked me so much when I did three months there last winter. They are being denied my services because I use a substance which is legal in California. I have not spoken to her, but I'm pretty sure that the Manager in Redding, Heather, is QUITE pissed. All she told me last winter was that she was getting compliments about my work from nurses and doctors.

Let me add this, which makes the situation even more ironic: Just last weekend I took care of a 59 year old woman who is on her DEATH BED, all due to alcoholism. I, too, had a HUGE problem with alcohol. I beat it, haven't had a drink in six years. Yet according to them, I can't use weed, either. And Heather knows that, I was very honest with management there about my past problems with alcohol and also that I haven't had a drink in six years.

So when does this sh*t all come to an end? Maybe some Managers like Heather will start complaining and raising a ruckus over this complete BS. "Look, I have a guy who is a great caregiver. I desperately need him back here..............the winter season is approaching, the busy season for RT's. Yet they will not let me use him because he uses a medicinal plant which is legal in this state, even for recreational use."

 

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  posted on 10/17/2017 at 07:58 PM
High soberiety is way better. Keep the plug in the jug.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2017 at 02:09 PM
Robslob - congrats on 6 yrs and may it continue forever
 

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  posted on 10/19/2017 at 07:42 AM
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High soberiety is way better. Keep the plug in the jug.


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Robslob - congrats on 6 yrs and may it continue forever


I appreciate the encouragement. Thank You.

After six years of sobriety, it's not real hard to stay sober now. I'm over the rough patches. Here's the reason it gets easier: Once you go six years without, you have really started to get your sanity back. Alcohol, if you are addicted, will destroy you physically. But what gets overlooked a lot when the subject is discussed is what alcohol does to a person from a mental standpoint. I think about how confused and foggy I was at times. How clouded my judgment was when making life decisions. How dysfunctional my attitude was towards women and relationships. I remember in particular how far out of reality I appeared once at a job interview because I had done some HEAVY drinking the night before.
I look back at that now and I know the guy who interviewed me was laughing at some of the things I said.

I am really, REALLY embarrassed by the person that I was back then. Trust me, looking back on all that is enough to keep me from ever taking another drink. It's good to have those photo bombs in my mind of the person that I was. It's scary. It reminds me a LOT of Gregg telling the tale of seeing himself at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. I never got to drinking a liter of vodka a day like he was, but it doesn't matter. I was a dysfunctional mess just the same.

It also helps me as a caregiver when I come across someone in the throes of substance abuse. Because hard core alcoholism is just as bad as any of them you could name: heroin, meth, etc.





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  posted on 10/19/2017 at 03:51 PM
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The bill was passed unanimously. Obama signed it without fanfare or reservation. They are all posers. They should just legalize the dope. The obvious reason they don't is someone will lose money. When I was dealing with the pain before hip surgery there were all kinds of fees in the pipeline. Every doctor visit cost money. Each doctor's visit I had to take a pee test. LabCorp cashed in on those. Congress sucks. Hypocrites.

Just like the NFL, an organization that do their best to not pay taxes and fleece tax payers for new stadiums, dares to lecture the American public about Patriotism. They have a fare trade exemption to fix ticket prices and charge ridiculous prices for food at the games and they dare to lecture about patriotism. This country is ass backwards.


Well said....When it comes to the war on drugs there's plenty of blame to go around. It's so obviously farcical, corrupt, failed beyond belief, etc....

And the NFL is nothing more than a racket too. A racket controlled by rich, white men who only profess to care about patriotism the minute not adhering to their definition of it cuts into their profits.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2017 at 03:56 PM
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And remember Ya'll, no smoking that Evil Weed either!!!!!!...........Peace............joe


Thank You for posting this, a subject I am VERY interested in. And yes, as you say..........the hypocrisy going on is beyond belief.

I should know. I was just denied employment a few weeks ago because I tested positive for marijuana. I'm a Respiratory Therapist. I have a hospital out of town (Redding, CA) which requested to have me back, they liked me so much when I did three months there last winter. They are being denied my services because I use a substance which is legal in California. I have not spoken to her, but I'm pretty sure that the Manager in Redding, Heather, is QUITE pissed. All she told me last winter was that she was getting compliments about my work from nurses and doctors.

Let me add this, which makes the situation even more ironic: Just last weekend I took care of a 59 year old woman who is on her DEATH BED, all due to alcoholism. I, too, had a HUGE problem with alcohol. I beat it, haven't had a drink in six years. Yet according to them, I can't use weed, either. And Heather knows that, I was very honest with management there about my past problems with alcohol and also that I haven't had a drink in six years.

So when does this sh*t all come to an end? Maybe some Managers like Heather will start complaining and raising a ruckus over this complete BS. "Look, I have a guy who is a great caregiver. I desperately need him back here..............the winter season is approaching, the busy season for RT's. Yet they will not let me use him because he uses a medicinal plant which is legal in this state, even for recreational use."


I've stated many times before that one of my biggest disappointments with Obama was that he didn't go nearly far enough to end the war on cannabis at least at the federal level. You are a prime example of why I feel this way, robslob.

By the way, congrats on 6 years sober....

 

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  posted on 10/19/2017 at 07:20 PM
Funny the way I learned was to practice total abstinence from all mood & mind altering drugs.Thats just substituting one drug for other.Thats not what I call sobriety at all.Funny how the mind of an addict works.So you think it's ok to treat your patients high on weed as long as your not drinking.Thats pretty messed up.Maybe you should think things though a lot more.Hypocrisy at its best wasn't that the topic of this thread.
 

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  posted on 10/19/2017 at 07:26 PM
Ease up man. Guy bares his soul , you accuse him of treating his patients while high. Plenty good sober docs enjoy a puff of an evening. Tons of legal and brutal mind altering stuff being prescribed out there whacks you out a thousand times harder than herb. Xanax, Prozac, all the rest, all perfectly ok. Hell, caffeine, sugar jacks you harder, makes you mean. Fresh air alters your state of mind, in a good way. Pretty much everything we eat and do alters our state of mind.




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Funny the way I learned was to practice total abstinence from all mood & mind altering drugs.Thats just substituting one drug for other.Thats not what I call sobriety at all.Funny how the mind of an addict works.So you think it's ok to treat your patients high on weed as long as your not drinking.Thats pretty messed up.Maybe you should think things though a lot more.Hypocrisy at its best wasn't that the topic of this thread.


First off, I was using weed the entire time I was drinking. So I did not "substitute one drug for another". I simply quit the one that was killing me.

But what really gets me (not that I care at all what you think) is your statement that I treat my patients high on weed. Your obvious mental dysfunction is really showing. So you're saying that everyone who uses marijuana MUST go to work high on marijuana? That's got to be the most idiotic logic I have ever heard on this website.

I'll refrain from using foul language and just ask you a few questions:
1. Have you ever had to obtain a certification in Advanced Cardiac Life Support?
2. Have you ever had to obtain a certification in Pediatric Advanced Life Support?
3. Have you ever had to become certified as a Neonatal Resuscitation Provider?

Do you even know what those three certifications are? I have to have all three just to walk in the door of the hospital, in addition to BLS, or "CPR". They involve how to react when someone is having a cardiac event or has stopped breathing. You must know how to recognize heart rhythms on a monitor, know when to shock the heart and when not to, and what medications to give and when. The first one is for adults, the second children, the third for newborn babies. I have to renew each of those every two years. If I fail ANY of those, I cannot work, and I've been an RT for 23 years.

If you think those are easy classes, why don't you try and take one sometime. Send me your certificate, I'll gladly reimburse you for the class. Not too awful worried that I'll have to.

So why am I bringing this up? Because you're talking to me like I'm a stoner. Look Man, I have to constantly PROVE my mental acuity. It's part of being a medical professional. As long as I can do that, I fail to see what the fact that I use marijuana has to do with anything, especially considering that it is legal in the state where I live.

If I were using Vicodin, I could come to work high all the time and as long as I had a prescription, no one would care. Meanwhile, opioid addiction is an EPIDEMIC in the U.S.

Ever tried to relax and go to sleep after working the hours I did last weekend? I worked an 8 hour night shift last Friday night. I came back to work the following night at 11:00 PM and got off at 3:30 in the afternoon on Sunday, a 16 hour shift. According to you, I'd be better off using a dangerous sleep med like Ambien I guess. I had a marijuana brownie and I fell asleep just fine around 9:00 PM.

I'm done.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2017 at 04:45 AM
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Ease up man. Guy bares his soul, you accuse him of treating his patients while high


Accusation? Or admission ?

Why use anything at all? Having an issue with one drug might be a pretty large red flag to most; all while using another. Add, while I congratulate you on six years of sobriety, I have little empathy for anyone who goes to work high.

"I can still perform my job duties while stoned" Excellent, then you should be able to sleep like a baby when straight.

 

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Accusation? Or admission ?

Why use anything at all? Having an issue with one drug might be a pretty large red flag to most; all while using another. Add, while I congratulate you on six years of sobriety, I have little empathy for anyone who goes to work high.

"I can still perform my job duties while stoned" Excellent, then you should be able to sleep like a baby when straight.


Oh, our resident Contrarian has raised his (ugly) head. I'll take it with a grain of salt Vince because everyone who has been on this website for awhile knows that you puff up your own ego constantly by trying to drag others down. You talk about what I'M using.........hey, maybe Xanax will flatten you out.

Managers of RT departments are not stupid. Other RT's are not stupid. Doctors are not stupid. Nurses are not stupid. If I were going to work high someone would have picked up on it by now. But you wouldn't know that, because you have never been a medical professional, you're a hack with a BIG mouth, nothing more.

 

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I support legalization, and sympathize - but I have a fair question - how could someone be unaware of drug testing ? Did you assume that because it is legal it wouldn't be tested for?

I don't get it, you are obviously a sharp, highly skilled person, this naivety doesn't fit the picture. Just stop using something that is interfering with your priorities.

 

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Ease up man. Guy bares his soul, you accuse him of treating his patients while high


Accusation? Or admission ?

Why use anything at all? Having an issue with one drug might be a pretty large red flag to most; all while using another. Add, while I congratulate you on six years of sobriety, I have little empathy for anyone who goes to work high.

"I can still perform my job duties while stoned" Excellent, then you should be able to sleep like a baby when straight.


Oh, our resident Contrarian has raised his (ugly) head. I'll take it with a grain of salt Vince because everyone who has been on this website for awhile knows that you puff up your own ego constantly by trying to drag others down. You talk about what I'M using.........hey, maybe Xanax will flatten you out


Pot, meet kettle. Did writing that make you feel better?

Once again, expressing a dissenting opinion has someone upset....

I will take that with a grain of salt....

 

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  posted on 10/20/2017 at 11:50 AM
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If it's not OK for an NFL team to lecture about patriotism, is it OK for a player to turn a football game into a platform for his political protest?


Are they turning the game into a political protest? Not that I've seen. They are protesting during a Nationalistic ceremony that has nothing to do with the game of football. Why don't people see this? Millions of our tax dollars have gone to professional sports teams for these Nationalistic ceremonies. I'm not ok with my tax dollars being used to propagandize this country's never ending pursuit of empire.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pentagon-pays-the-nfl-millions-to-honor- veterans-at-games-2015-5

https://youtu.be/eu5DIkAbJ8o

 

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  posted on 10/20/2017 at 11:54 AM
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I support legalization, and sympathize - but I have a fair question - how could someone be unaware of drug testing ? Did you assume that because it is legal it wouldn't be tested for?

I don't get it, you are obviously a sharp, highly skilled person, this naivety doesn't fit the picture. Just stop using something that is interfering with your priorities.


It IS a fair question. Here's what happened:

I've been passing these tests for years using a simple methodology: I abstain first for at least a week, preferably for two weeks if I know about the test enough in advance. The day of the test I start drinking water a couple of hours before my test time. I drink a lot of water, around a quart or more. That way when you piss, you are pissing from a reservoir of water in your bladder, not metabolized urine. As stated, it's been working for me for years.

This time I blew it because I drank TOO much water. I took the test on a Tuesday. I figured, hey, it's over and done, let's celebrate. So I used that night and the next day (I'll know better than to do that next time). Two days after the test, on Thursday, I was notified that it was a dilute sample, TOO dilute to read any results. They told me I would have to test again. Obviously I couldn't say, "Wait, I need another week or two." That would make it obvious that I was using. And I had to hurry anyway because the job start date was less than two weeks away. So I retested on Thursday. Still drank water, but not as much. No surprise that after using the prior two days, I tested positive.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2017 at 12:09 PM
Dammit. Shanked! Sounds like you are on the game but dropped the ball. From what you say, it sounds as if pounding a bunch of emergen-c, vitamin mineral supplement and maybe some hi test protein supplement, for a few days would help, give the lab something to chew on. For sure protein in urine is standard readout.

Still, playing dice with your career - risky. Maybe good to wait until you get thru the hiring hoops before firing up.

 

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Still, playing dice with your career - risky. Maybe good to wait until you get thru the hiring hoops before firing up.


I have two jobs and passed drug tests for both so I AM working............but not getting enough hours. Both are On Call. Still looking for a three month contract for this winter so yes, still have to play these BS games..............

 

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