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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 08:29 AM
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Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.

LOL.

Like I said, it is not about being anti-gun for many people (I realize that for many it is), maybe even most people, who favor tighter access especially to certain kinds of weapons. I'd also say that extends to the current POTUS, despite alloak and other trying to convince us that he hates the second amendment and wants to take away all the guns.

For example, I say thank goodness this woman had a gun to defend her family...
http://wgme.com/news/nation-world/woman-shoots-kills-suspected-intruder-in- childs-bedroom

Totally agree Gondicar. Like most gun control advocates I don't have any desire to repeal the 2nd amendment. But I think we need to improve in 3 areas, the first being tighter access to certain weapons as you say. The second is improving the screening process so weapons are not legally sold to people with certain mental health issues or criminal history. And I guess now we'd need to add association with terror groups to that screening. And lastly we need stricter enforcement of existing regulations. I don't think any of that is unreasonable, nor would it affect the general gun owning population.

Those who support banning guns and those who think the Constitution guarantees unfettered access to all weapons for all people represent the extreme positions on this issue. Somewhere in between there is a reasonable solution that would not infringe on people's rights yet would help curtail casualties brought about by criminal or reckless gun use.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 09:24 AM
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Somewhere in between there is a reasonable solution that would not infringe on people's rights yet would help curtail casualties brought about by criminal or reckless gun use.


Nope. Just by you suggesting that, you are against the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution itself. Ask around.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 09:43 AM
In actuality, all it does is insure that guns continue to fly off the shelves. That's the
real world, quantifiable result.








[Edited on 6/27/2016 by alloak41]

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 09:45 AM
And we have another SCOTUS ruling in favor of reasonable gun regulations...


In Voisine v. U.S., SCOTUS Just Ruled People Convicted of Domestic Violence Can't Buy Guns

On Monday, in the case of Voisine v. the United States, the United States Supreme Court handed down a decision prohibiting people convicted of domestic violence from purchasing guns in a 6-2 vote, according to SCOTUSblog.

"This was the case of two Maine men who were convicted on state domestic violence charges and then found with firearms and charged with violating a federal law that prohibits domestic abusers from having firearms," SCOTUSblog's Amy Howe wrote in the live blog. "The question was whether their convictions qualified under the statute."

This decision follows this month's mass shooting in Orlando LGBT nightclub Pulse, which claimed the lives of 49 and injured 53. In the wake of the tragedy, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) led a 15-hour filibuster and Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) led a sit-in in the House of Representatives, both calling for action on gun regulations.

https://mic.com/articles/147147/in-voisine-v-u-s-scotus-just-ruled-people-c onvicted-of-domestic-violence-can-t-buy-guns#.LEd2yfkWO

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 03:20 PM
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I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.

These darn killings of innocent people are a nuisance and a distraction.


More accurately, a chance to gloat and make jokes about gun rights. Gun control advocates are
happy to see these stories come out, and if they say part of them is not pleased they're lying.


"Gloat"? "Jokes"? "Happy"? "Pleased"? As one who supports limiting access to murderous weapons for those who are likely to use them to destroy innocent lives, may I say, most sincerely, go **** yourself.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 05:47 PM
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Well actually I mean to shoot her own daughters. But hey, she was a vocal advocate for gun ownership. Obviously she makes a very compelling case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-s hooting-daughters-article-1.2687929


If you want to be un-armed, and someone comes in your house to rob you, rape your wife, and/or children while you wait for the cops to come and save you. Go ahead. You have the right to choose to be a sitting duck and be at the mercy of any low life that crosses your path.

If on the other hand, you prefer to be vigilant, exercise good judgement, self control, but be ready to respond to nefarious people who break in your house, and you live in America, you have a right to be armed and ready and take out the little bastards that threaten your safety and security. Americans have the right to bear arms.

[Edited on 6/26/2016 by gina]


So sick of this DUMB f_cking argument!!!! Nobody is talking about taking responsible gun owners guns away!!!! We are talking about COMMON SENSE gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists instead of making it so f_cking easy for these monsters to load up and kill so many so fast.

There is no need for AR-15s and AK-47s with high capacity ammo clips or any gun with high capacity ammo clips. These weapons should be outlawed for civilian use period. Americans got by just fine and defended their homes just fine during the Brady Ban years when these mass killing machines were illegal to buy and own. All this defense of them as the best guns for home invasion is complete BULLSH_T and the ones defending them know it damn well!!!!!! They just want to protect their right to go down to the range on weekends and fulfill their GI Joe fantasies!!!!

I know multiple people who own these types of weapons and none of them ever keep them loaded and the only time they take them out is to go pleasure shooting at the range. These mass killing machines were designed for military use, not to use as adult toys but the gun lovers go by that strictest interpretation of the 2nd amendment thinking that they should have equal fire power as their own government. I got news for them. If our government wants to take them out they won't have time to kiss their asses goodbye much less grab their AKs when the missile from the drone blows them to bits. Or do you all think you should be allowed to have air defense systems parked in your driveway next to the Sherman Tank???

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 05:49 PM
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In actuality, all it does is insure that guns continue to fly off the shelves. That's the
real world, quantifiable result.








[Edited on 6/27/2016 by alloak41]
A definite result of the simple minded, fox news watching, right wing hate radio listening, NRA saluting, republican voting, minimum wage earning, rubes. making the gun industry wealthy, keeping the gun lobby, and their benefactors [republican lawmakers] fat and happy.

 

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That is it in a Republican NRA nutshell!!! It is about the $$$$$$$$$$ the gun industry reap from selling as many of these killing machines and as many ammo clips and ammo they can profit from. They don't give a crap how many get mass killed. All they care about is the bottom line and with more guns than people in our country and counting selling mass death machines is a very lucrative business.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 06:43 PM
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If our government wants to take them out they won't have time to kiss their asses goodbye much less grab their AKs when the missile from the drone blows them to bits.


You seem OK with that. Even then, you don't think and AK-47 could take out a drone?

 

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That is it in a Republican NRA nutshell!!! It is about the $$$$$$$$$$ the gun industry reap from selling as many of these killing machines and as many ammo clips and ammo they can profit from. They don't give a crap how many get mass killed. All they care about is the bottom line and with more guns than people in our country and counting selling mass death machines is a very lucrative business.



So why keep egging them on? Every time Obama or some other Democrat starts in
about passing more gun laws, another 50,000 guns hit the street. Too funny.

 

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If our government wants to take them out they won't have time to kiss their asses goodbye much less grab their AKs when the missile from the drone blows them to bits.


You seem OK with that. Even then, you don't think and AK-47 could take out a drone?


Maybe one of those drone bought at Toys R Us but not a military drone and the government has lots of weapons used for our nation's self defense that could be used against our own if they ever wanted to. Do I like it no but it is an evil necessity in today's world and our military has always had overwhelming manpower.

So by the strictest of interpretations of the 2nd amendment we should be able to have anything the government has to defend ourselves??? Anti missile batteries in our yards??? It is a dumb argument. If the founding father's were able to look into the future they would never had worded that amendment that way and everybody knows it. They were firing single shot muskets back then, not AK-47s with ammo drums that can shoot as many as 90 rounds before re loading.

 

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Maybe one of those drone bought at Toys R Us but not a military drone and the government has lots of weapons used for our nation's self defense that could be used against our own if they ever wanted to.


And that will be the precise day the Left stops complaining about military spending.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:12 PM
my two cents

i have no need for a gun as i don't hunt
i also quit hanging out with shady people many years ago
i also don't live in a shady neighborhood.

i am not afraid of being shot
i don't care if someone takes my stuff, i can get more stuff

i feel for you who need protection from things like that but not feel sorry.
i suggest you move
or quit hanging out with people like that.

good luck

 

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That is it in a Republican NRA nutshell!!! It is about the $$$$$$$$$$ the gun industry reap from selling as many of these killing machines and as many ammo clips and ammo they can profit from. They don't give a crap how many get mass killed. All they care about is the bottom line and with more guns than people in our country and counting selling mass death machines is a very lucrative business.



So why keep egging them on? Every time Obama or some other Democrat starts in
about passing more gun laws, another 50,000 guns hit the street. Too funny.
Its just the gullible, believing the bullsh!t story being told by the NRA and its paid facilitators, that somehow their 2nd amendment rights will be taken away.

 

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That is it in a Republican NRA nutshell!!! It is about the $$$$$$$$$$ the gun industry reap from selling as many of these killing machines and as many ammo clips and ammo they can profit from. They don't give a crap how many get mass killed. All they care about is the bottom line and with more guns than people in our country and counting selling mass death machines is a very lucrative business.



So why keep egging them on? Every time Obama or some other Democrat starts in
about passing more gun laws, another 50,000 guns hit the street. Too funny.


Isn't that a good thing?

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:31 PM
i live just south on 465 in indy.....3 stoplights south.

my cat came inside yesterday growling....not hissing....because...i guess saw something
i went oustide after awhile and saw nothing

today.....10-15 mins ago he did same thing
so i went out to see what the hell

lol.....there was a deer in my backyard

shoot if i had a gun.....i could have venison stew for dinner.......LOL

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:32 PM
I need a gun to train my meth labrador
 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:35 PM
1st time in 20 yrs i saw a deer in my backyard.....just for timeline on that

 

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still waiting for a thief i guess?

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:41 PM
Maybe the deer was stealing your flowers.
 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:43 PM
evil deer

are they constitutionally protected?

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:46 PM
Depends on the deer. Was it on the no-fly list?

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:48 PM
LOL

 

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More accurately, a chance to gloat and make jokes about gun rights. Gun control advocates are
happy to see these stories come out, and if they say part of them is not pleased they're lying.


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So why keep egging them on? Every time Obama or some other Democrat starts in
about passing more gun laws, another 50,000 guns hit the street. Too funny.





 
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