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Author: Subject: Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:06 PM
Definitely uncalled for but not unexpected. You speak the truth and look what crawls out from under a rock to throw stones. Which, by the way, wtf was that last sentence supposed to mean? If you're going to insult someone, it's best if you at least make sense.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:07 PM
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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
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Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.

Take your twisted opinons{which are to numerous and unwanted by many and blow it out of your ass. Your are nothing but a blow hard hypicite!!!!!!!!


I see you've resorted to insults since you can't refute the facts. Nice try.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:21 PM
And I guess you know the facts. You put it out there so lets hear your facts. Personally don't think you have any. Give me facts and stats not your self serving opinons... But then you are never wrong.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:31 PM
Because you asked so nicely? I don't think so. If you don't like what I said, go get your own facts...I'm not going to spoon feed you mine.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:37 PM
Ann why don't you take a moment and think about the innocent children and victims before you start t blaming Christian upbring. As a a Christian I am totally offended by your remarks!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:42 PM
On the contrary, you're the one who started interjecting God and going to church into the discussion. I notice you didn't hold back from making a snap judgment about what's wrong with society. Personally, I disagree. And if you're offended....your problem, not mine.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 05:47 PM
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Because you asked so nicely? I don't think so. If you don't like what I said, go get your own facts...I'm not going to spoon feed you mine.
You don't have any!!! The facts are innocent children and others were massaced. Those are the facts. All else does not matter.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 06:13 PM
You're right....nothing else does matter. How incredibly sad for those families who've lost children and/or loved ones. I can't even begin to imagine the hurt they're going through.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 07:23 PM
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Because you asked so nicely? I don't think so. If you don't like what I said, go get your own facts...I'm not going to spoon feed you mine.
You don't have any!!! The facts are innocent children and others were massaced. Those are the facts. All else does not matter.


Bigann is a big blowhard. She lives on the forum and makes things up as she goes along. She comes off as intelligent because she can write fairly well and has contrarian views on things as if putting a new twist on something shows a higher level of thinking.

Don't be fooled. She is mean, self absorbed and starved for attention. But she is sly. Won't be long before she is asking forum members for money for some new scheme. It is just a matter of time. She should be ashamed for insulting you but she is not.

Try to ignore her.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 07:28 PM
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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



On the contrary you have found nothing of the sort. You are known for your blabbering whether it be a fence fund, a PM thread with postings you admit you don't live by or humping books to forum members. You are a loudmouth who makes things up to look good.


Actually, and factually, if you research many serial and mass killers you will find they came from a strict religious background.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 07:55 PM
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Ann why don't you take a moment and think about the innocent children and victims before you start t blaming Christian upbring. As a a Christian I am totally offended by your remarks!!!!!!!!!


She brought up RELIGIOUS upbringing. You are the one who perceived it as her saying CHRISTIAN.
There are many different religions in the world. Jainism is one of the few that do not allow any killing.
Several religions teach the killing of those not of your religion is a blessed thing.

Before you start going on about facts, think of these, the Crusades, the Pomgroms, the Moorish wars, the wars fought by different groups of the same religion (ie the Protestant vs Catholic clashes), the Salem witch trials, subjugation of native tribes by Christians and Muslims.
Lest we forget, the travels by the Israelites to the promised land. How many cities did they lay waste to?

But yes, you bring up a very important point. This thread should be about the compassion we feel for those who have died or lost loved ones during this time where happiness should be the overwhelming emotion. We should not have to face the torment of parents who will no longer see the faces of their children, watch them at school plays, ball games, recitals, skinning their knees learning new things like ride bikes, skateboards, and roller skates. They will not have the chance to see them explore places and shine as they gain new accomplishments, confident in the knowledge that they will get bigger, stronger, and smarter. Watching them grow to adulthood and go out on their own is no longer there, just the questions of why that school, why that class, why my child.

Let's let the bickering go, use this thread to remember those who were taken away from us today.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 08:19 PM
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Let's let the bickering go, use this thread to remember those who were taken away from us today.


Very well stated.

I cannot begin to imagine what those parents and families are going through and hope I never will have to know that pain. I can just keep them in my thoughts and prayers. In addition to the families I'd say we should keep all of the first responder's and other personnel in our thoughts as well. Having witness all of that carnage will effect them for remainder of their lives as well.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 08:57 PM
The myth of "Religious Wars" killing more people than other wars is just that, a myth. Biggest all time killer wars:

100,000,000
Taiping Rebellion

72,000,000
World War II

65,000,000
World War I

60,000,000
Mongol Conquests

36,000,000
An Lushan Rebellion

30,000,000
Late Yuan warfare and transition to Ming Dynasty

25,000,000
Qing dynasty conquest of the Ming Dynasty

20,000,000
Conquests of Timur

12,000,000
Dungan revolt

11,500,000
Thirty Years' War

9,000,000
Russian Civil War

7,000,000
Yellow Turban Rebellion

7,000,000
Napoleonic Wars

5,400,000
Second Congo War

4,500,000
Korean War

4,000,000
French Wars of Religion


4,000,000
Deluge

3,000,000
Crusades


3,000,000
Vietnam War

2,000,000
Shaka's conquests

2,000,000
Iran–Iraq War

2,000,000
Mexican Revolution

2,000,000
Soviet War in Afghanistan

2,000,000
Afghan Civil War

2,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War

1,200,000
Paraguayan War

1,000,000
Du Wenxiu Rebellion

800,000
American Civil War

Not even close.

The biggest correlating factor with serial or mass killers is horrific childhood abuse, not religious upbringing.

That being said, it is heartbraking to see the type of denegrating things being thrown around this thread on this website in reference to a horrible tragedy where kids are gunned down in a kindergarten classroom. And we wonder what's wrong with our country.





 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 09:48 PM
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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



On the contrary you have found nothing of the sort. You are known for your blabbering whether it be a fence fund, a PM thread with postings you admit you don't live by or humping books to forum members. You are a loudmouth who makes things up to look good.


Actually, and factually, if you research many serial and mass killers you will find they came from a strict religious background.


Thank you Jerry. You're right on all points.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 10:01 PM
To BrerRabbit and EMR: No disrespect, but could I ask you both to edit the posts to remove the picture?

Many thanks in advance!!!

Peace!
[edieted for spelling]

[Edited on 12/15/2012 by TEX]

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 10:29 PM
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On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



On the contrary you have found nothing of the sort. You are known for your blabbering whether it be a fence fund, a PM thread with postings you admit you don't live by or humping books to forum members. You are a loudmouth who makes things up to look good.


Actually, and factually, if you research many serial and mass killers you will find they came from a strict religious background.


Thank you Jerry. You're right on all points.


Wrong.
http://www.academon.com/research-paper/serial-killing-and-its-contributing- factors-128564/

http://www.sociology.uiowa.edu/newsoc/awards/papers/larsond.htm

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86779220/The-Incidence-of-Child-Abuse-in-Serial-K illers

http://www.fsc.yorku.ca/york/rsheese/psyc1010/wiki/index.php/WHAT_FACTORS_C ONTRIBUTE_TO_SERIAL_HOMICIDE%3F

And on and on. Add mental illness and bullying for the type of mass murderers we've seen in recent times. You'll be hard pressed to find any peer reviewed or academic work that even mentions religious upbringing as a contributing factor in the development of serial killers - mass murderers. Please post the info you have so we can read it.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 10:31 PM
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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



On the contrary you have found nothing of the sort. You are known for your blabbering whether it be a fence fund, a PM thread with postings you admit you don't live by or humping books to forum members. You are a loudmouth who makes things up to look good.


Wow, lovelead sounds like Summer school.......no class!

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:05 PM
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While I agree with you guys, I also think it shines a light on just how much we as a society have all but forgotten and neglected our mental health system in this country.


Mental illness and our current gun control laws are a bad combo. But I agree with you; people who are "looking for a reason" will no more find it here than with the nanny in NYC who killed the two kids. There is no reason; just insanity.

And yes; the mental health system is failing; but amazingly no one, no matter how crazy can me medicated against their own will


There is such a thing as pure unadulterated evil.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:06 PM
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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



Evil is evil. It exists everywhere.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:12 PM
Funny how a couple of people metion religious upbring but can not produce any facts to support it. Mental illness comes to my mind way before religious upbring. Actually religious upbringing did not even come up in my thoughts on this tragedy. But mental illness sure did. My Prayers and thoughts are with all affected by this tragic event.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:27 PM
Holy crap Ann!!!!

I didn't know you were a hypicite.


I thought those were eckstinct.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:30 PM
Someone should change his user name to Dannycan'tspellforsh!tbuthesurecanwhine.


 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:31 PM
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Interesting....I didn't detect that sentiment in your previous post that started this discussion:

We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.


As Doug said...there's evil everywhere.


You've got yur posters confused Ann - that was lovelead, not Dannyspell.

 

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Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 18 kids....

What in the hell is going on with people today?


We all are responsible. We have become self-centered, consumers with no fear of God. We reap what we sow. Immoral lifestyles are the norm and people avoid God and church so they can live like that and not feel guilty.

Rolling Stones:

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
Well after all
It was you and me.

http://youtu.be/vBecM3CQVD8


On the contrary, I've found some of the worst and most violent offenders came from a very strict religious upbringing. Organized religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything other than disease.



On the contrary you have found nothing of the sort. You are known for your blabbering whether it be a fence fund, a PM thread with postings you admit you don't live by or humping books to forum members. You are a loudmouth who makes things up to look good.


Wow, lovelead sounds like Summer school.......no class!


Sounds like lead may have been in his diet as a child.

 

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  posted on 12/14/2012 at 11:51 PM
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Someone should change his user name to Dannycan'tspellforsh!tbuthesurecanwhine.



Who yanked your chain? Smart ass!!!

 

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