Thread: Is it true they didn't film the last Beacon show?

The_Newt - 11/3/2014 at 08:55 PM

On another site I'm on someone claimed that they contacted the band's management and were told that the ABB did not film or is not releasing the last show on DVD, is this true?


Marley - 11/3/2014 at 10:04 PM

There's no reason to think it was recorded.


Marley - 11/3/2014 at 11:03 PM

Most of the show is on YouTube, if not all of it: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnamonte54/videos

But there's no reason to think they had the thing filmed professionally. They didn't announce it and there was no evidence of it at the show. Some people have talked about 'the Beacon cameras,' but those were probably just the Brotherhood of Light setup and I don't know if they even record anything.


chloerose2 - 11/4/2014 at 04:41 AM

I was there and did not see anyone with cameras. However there are CD's of the show at HittintheNote.com. Plus all the people that downloaded to YouTube


Marley - 11/4/2014 at 03:45 PM

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However there are CD's of the show at HittintheNote.com.

And you can download it from the MunckMusic site in a couple of different formats.


downsouth - 11/4/2014 at 09:26 PM

It is kinda sad there will be no "official" video document of 10/28-29/14, but... as with the original incarnation & all the ABB ghosts, we can "LISTEN" to the final show, and paint pictures on our radios about the way it used to be.

ABB was (mostly) always about THE MUSIC, not the image, and that's a-ok with me.

Ride on ALL the Brothers Allman!!! You made your mark, for so many years - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will continue to put on the shows, and play at maximum volume for all to enjoy. Hopefully 45 years from now, some newbie will ask me "what IS THAT!!??!!", and i'll just smile and listen with them.


peacesignguy - 11/5/2014 at 12:36 AM

@ downsouth,

Speaking of newbies... a couple of weeks back I was driving, for a couple of hours, with my nephew (who just started high school). I was playing Mt. Jam from live at Ludlow Garage. He was real quiet for a long time, and finally asked "Who is this" in a voice of astonishment. I filled him in best I could with the limited time we had, but I think he's on board. His birthday is coming up so I bought him a tee shirt when I was at the final show last week. He will also be receiving a copy of that show come Solstice time, as I preordered two of them.
There's hope left with these kids!

Steve


DOMEL - 11/10/2014 at 12:55 PM

of course they are going to release video and CD . Maybe not the last show but the last run .Do you really think that they are going to let that kind of money slip away ? . The videos will be out and 2 years from now when someone throws enough money at Greg ,he will reform the brothers not this line up and maybe not a whole tour .but that big payday is looming ,
.They have to let at least 1 year go ,so the hype builds .Its business .


kevinumberger - 11/10/2014 at 02:44 PM

Can't release the video if it doesn't exist.......


Marley - 11/10/2014 at 05:44 PM

There's already a CD: https://www.munckmusic.com/wms/allman/index.html

Given all the other projects they've passed up, I don't think they'll send someone into the studio to turn this into a bigger release just to sell a couple thousand copies once the band is already out of the headlines. The ABB has done many inexplicable business things over the years but I think they know exactly how big their market is, and it's not that big. During the run I talked to someone who insisted the band was going to get back together immediately and do a star-studded farewell bash at MSG around Christmastime, and it doesn't look like that's happening either since Gregg even made a statement that emphasized the band was done.


dmccabe - 11/11/2014 at 11:09 PM

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Can't release the video if it doesn't exist.......


but it does exist


Marley - 11/12/2014 at 12:59 AM

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quote:
Can't release the video if it doesn't exist.......


but it does exist

And you say this based on...

That's kind of the important part.


dmccabe - 11/12/2014 at 01:44 AM



[Edited on 11/12/2014 by dmccabe]


fanfrom-71 - 11/12/2014 at 01:52 AM

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'cuz I did the video .. and all the close-ups for the solos are in 4K

Here is a quick test video from Peach Festival... this is not from the Beacon, but to show you the quality of the video.

https://vimeo.com/105396937

[Edited on 11/12/2014 by dmccabe]

If it looks anything like your still shots...


Marley - 11/12/2014 at 02:10 AM

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'cuz I did the video .. and all the close-ups for the solos are in 4K

Why did they have you film the show? (I love your photography, by the way. But could you explain this stuff in full?)

[Edited on 11/12/2014 by Marley]


dmccabe - 11/12/2014 at 02:58 AM



[Edited on 11/12/2014 by dmccabe]


scottdaugherty - 11/12/2014 at 03:13 AM

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'cuz I did the video .. and all the close-ups for the solos are in 4K

Here is a quick test video from Peach Festival... this is not from the Beacon, but to show you the quality of the video.

https://vimeo.com/105396937

[Edited on 11/12/2014 by dmccabe]


This is GREAT news!!! Can't wait to see what's in store... How many cameras? Just the one? Those of us lucky enough to have been there that night know how cool it will be to see this released on video!!!


Marley - 11/12/2014 at 05:35 AM

The last one took five years, so whatever information you have would be appreciated.


stormyrider - 11/12/2014 at 06:57 AM

Great news!
Awesome footage!

Hopefully this will see the light of day - thanks!!!


Rusty - 11/12/2014 at 12:20 PM

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patience is a virtue... some things take time to finalize


How many cameras at the Beacon? Folks who were there didn't notice cameras. Did you use small robotics or something similar to GoPro?


musicalbeds - 11/12/2014 at 12:37 PM

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'cuz I did the video .. and all the close-ups for the solos are in 4K

Here is a quick test video from Peach Festival... this is not from the Beacon, but to show you the quality of the video.

https://vimeo.com/105396937

[Edited on 11/12/2014 by dmccabe]


Incredible....the angle is perfect; I wish more live concerts featured shots like that, where I can watch both the guitar player's hands and fretwork.
Peachfest was my last two shows; I hope some of this footage will also make it out.....I'm blown away by that Liz Reed Derek snippet!!!!

Thank yu for sharing the footage; you made my day!!!

[Edited on 11/12/2014 by musicalbeds]


hotlantatim - 11/12/2014 at 04:34 PM

dmccabe - Thank you for your photography and for that video snippet. You photos took us "there" when so many of us were miles away! ThankyouThankyou!! Glad to hear some of it got filmed.

And that footage of Derek at peachfest is amazing. Even if Derek didn't play slide he'd be one of my favorite living performers. And that footage only shows on style of Derek's. He's got another 5 or so playing personalities.


willieB69 - 11/12/2014 at 04:34 PM

Derek McCabe! You ROCK! Don't need all the details, just to know that there is footage out there is a huge relief! Hope the channels are opened and everything falls into place for this treasure to see the light of day, while we're all still lookin' at the green side of the grass! I know it's a business decision for the band, but to not document this historic event for a Hall of fame, important historical musical group was just beyond belief for those of us who've loved this music for a long long time! you've made me smile today!!!!


WarEagleRK - 11/12/2014 at 07:20 PM

Unless there were multiple cameras set up like Derek McCabe's through out the building with the pre-approval of the ABB for a future release, I wouldn't get too excited.

This isn't like the 40th Anniversary DVD where it was filmed for Moogis and they just did a transfer from what Moogis filmed.


dmccabe - 11/12/2014 at 07:31 PM

Blu-Ray supports 5.1 audio


NotADoc - 11/13/2014 at 02:22 AM

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Blu-Ray supports 5.1 audio


Would LOVE Blu-Ray of finale ... I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope!!!!!!! I was there and it was AWE-mazing!


ArtieL - 11/13/2014 at 10:44 AM

This is great news! I would love to see the last show, or more of the Peach festival. When you're able to share more details, please do. Thanks!


TuffJew - 11/14/2014 at 06:04 AM

Wow, that would be something..Agree, Marley,,knowing their history it will take years before we see it.....byw, just watched the Peachfest snippet....You sir, are a genius..I cannot even imagine watching a full show with such amazing color and angles..Trust me everyone...go watch this NOW!


fanfrom-71 - 11/14/2014 at 01:18 PM

Not sure what "angles" in the vimeo clip all are talking about? I only saw one, and that was straight on.
Sure is sweet though!
I will say this...wouldn't want to do acid and watch a whole dvd with that camera shot, and the screen in the background!


TuffJew - 11/14/2014 at 06:12 PM

One last point..listen to Oteil on that clip---just as good!


gypsystarr - 11/15/2014 at 05:45 AM

dmccabe,

Your photography skills are excellent, I can't wait to see what you can do.


abbmountainjam - 11/21/2014 at 04:12 PM

The final 6 shows were fan recorded using a 3 camera setup - left, center, right - mounted on the balcony ledge. Still being worked on as it takes a lot of work and time to complete. I'm sure when ready they will be enjoyed by anyone who wants them. Patience.


kevinumberger - 11/21/2014 at 09:14 PM

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The final 6 shows were fan recorded using a 3 camera setup - left, center, right - mounted on the balcony ledge.




yeah....

i saw those little cameras but just figured they were for internal use (since they were basically consumer cameras and not necessarily pro cameras) and not for public release.....


ArtieL - 11/22/2014 at 01:29 PM

Thanks for the info, abbmountainjam. I eagerly (but patiently) hope to see them.


FlanagansPoint - 11/24/2014 at 06:18 PM

I was at the last show and there were NO cameras.


kevinumberger - 11/24/2014 at 09:00 PM

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I was at the last show and there were NO cameras.





did ya look on the balcony rail?

thats where they were at on friday and saturday...

they were unmanned, small consumer type cameras...

so they could easily be missed.........


WarEagleRK - 11/24/2014 at 09:02 PM

So it either wasn't filmed or it was filmed on no budget with only 3 stationary cameras and maybe one guy with another camera.

Either way, doesn't sound like a lot of/if any planning went into making this show available to the fans.


kevinumberger - 11/24/2014 at 09:21 PM

what i saw (and what i believe derek mccabe is referring to) on friday and saturday night were two small consumer handheld type cameras that were on mini (as in 3 inches tall) tripods on the rail of the balcony right in front of the front row..........they were on both the right and left sides---not sure if there was a middle camera......

one would necessarily notice them unless they were in the balcony and/or looking for them....

and there was nobody operating these cameras (unlike the professional ones that we saw in 09 for moogis)......


dmccabe - 11/27/2014 at 03:41 PM

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were two small consumer handheld type cameras


the unattended camera footage does not match the "attended" camera footage.

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and there was nobody operating these cameras (unlike the professional ones that we saw in 09 for moogis)......





dmccabe - 11/27/2014 at 03:45 PM

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So it either wasn't filmed or it was filmed


no it wasn't filmed.. 4K is digital.


WarEagleRK - 11/27/2014 at 05:52 PM

Ok, enough with the intentionally vague wordings of possible releases and the technical specs.

Was it filmed? Videoed? Digitized? Recorded? However it needs to be worded?

If so how many cameras (or maybe devices is more appropriate) did whatever you want to call making a video copy of the performance?


The_Newt - 12/29/2014 at 10:08 PM

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Ok, enough with the intentionally vague wordings of possible releases and the technical specs.

Was it filmed? Videoed? Digitized? Recorded? However it needs to be worded?

If so how many cameras (or maybe devices is more appropriate) did whatever you want to call making a video copy of the performance?




Good questions.


dmccabe - 12/30/2014 at 01:48 PM

Sample video from October 25, 2014

This is a res'd down 720p sample of camera 1 (full stage) shot.
Camera 1 was shot in 1080p
This is a color test only. No zoomed in camera angles or backdrop screens are mixed in.
All the close-ups (singing and guitar solos) were done in 4K.

http://vimeo.com/115636282


tbomike - 12/30/2014 at 03:09 PM

quote:
Sample video from October 25, 2014

This is a res'd down 720p sample of camera 1 (full stage) shot.
Camera 1 was shot in 1080p
This is a color test only. No zoomed in camera angles or backdrop screens are mixed in.
All the close-ups (singing and guitar solos) were done in 4K.

http://vimeo.com/115636282


Very cool!


mikesolo - 12/31/2014 at 05:22 AM

that has the makings for a great ABB live experience to revist through the many years to come. Keep us posted on progress and plans as you can! Good stuff.


willieB69 - 2/15/2015 at 03:12 PM

Bumping thread back to top of page! Hoping Derek will stop by and give us an update progress???????????


WarEagleRK - 3/5/2015 at 07:33 PM

That footage looks awesome.

I'm guessing nothing ever actually comes out of this, but it would be nice.


wearly89 - 3/28/2015 at 10:05 PM

If there's a buck to be made, it'll happen!


WarEagleRK - 6/15/2015 at 08:55 PM

So, I'm sure we'll get an update on this any day now.


Bill_Graham - 6/15/2015 at 11:14 PM

Has there ever been a vine of the fan made video of the last show? If not I have a copy I can try to vine if there is any interest. Never done one before though.

Looks like a 3 camera shoot to me. Quality varies but it is very watchable IMHO


WarEagleRK - 10/28/2015 at 02:25 PM

Well it happened a year ago today, can I stop holding my breath for this release now?


Spiritof76 - 10/29/2015 at 04:33 AM

Derek has been teasing people on facebook with this. https://www.facebook.com/100006976245593/videos/1653198698255989/
There are some other short close up clips as well on his page.

[Edited on 10/29/2015 by Spiritof76]


salcapitano - 11/21/2015 at 02:02 AM

I just don't get why people have to pull this tease, unless he was contacted by the band and told no way.


adhill58 - 2/2/2016 at 11:00 PM

So, I watched the clip in the facebook link, and was a little distracted by the fans sitting on the stage beyond Oteil. Then I realized that the guy in the tie-dye looks like Ron Jeremy. That would really kind of ruin a release of this if you had to keep seeing Ron Jeremy throughout the show.

Just a thought... Anyone else notice that?


WarEagleRK - 3/13/2016 at 05:57 AM

So about this release?


piper - 4/26/2016 at 09:06 PM


WarEagleRK - 9/8/2016 at 05:47 PM

Been almost two years now...


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