Thread: White threat in a browning America

BoytonBrother - 8/1/2018 at 03:27 PM

Hereís an interesting article about what I believe is at the root of the Obama hatred, and Trump victory.


White threat in a browning America

How demographic change is fracturing our politics.

Ezra KleinJuly 30, 2018 6:00 am

In 2008, Barack Obama held up change as a beacon, attaching to it another word, a word that channeled everything his young and diverse coalition saw in his rise and their newfound political power: hope. An America that would elect a black man president was an America in which a future was being written that would read thrillingly different from our past.

In 2016, Donald Trump wielded that same sense of change as a threat; he was the revanchist voice of those who yearned to make America the way it was before, to make it great again. That was the impulse that connected the wall to keep Mexicans out, the ban to keep Muslims away, the birtherism meant to prove Obama couldnít possibly be a legitimate president. An America that would elect Donald Trump president was an America in which a future was being written that could read thrillingly similar to our past.

This is the core cleavage of our politics, and it reflects the fundamental reality of our era: America is changing, and fast. According to the Census Bureau, 2013 marked the first year that a majority of US infants under the age of 1 were nonwhite. The announcement, made during the second term of the nationís first African-American president, was not a surprise. Demographers had been predicting such a tipping point for years, and they foresaw more to come.


The government predicts that in 2030, immigration will overtake new births as the dominant driver of population growth. About 15 years after that, America will phase into majority-minority status ó for the first time in the nationís history, non-Hispanic whites will no longer make up a majority of the population.

That cross will come in part because Americaís black, Hispanic, Asian, and mixed-race populations are expected to grow ó indeed, the Hispanic and Asian populations are expected to roughly double, and the mixed-race population to triple. Meanwhile, the non-Hispanic white population is, uniquely, expected to fall, dipping from 199 million in 2020 to 179 million in 2060. The Census Bureau minces no words here: ďThe only group projected to shrink is the non-Hispanic White population,Ē they report.

This isnít just a statement about the future; itís a description of the present. The economist Jed Kolko notes that the most common age for white Americans is 58, for Asians itís 29, for African Americans itís 27, and for Hispanics itís 11. A new report out of the University of Wisconsin Madisonís Applied Population Lab found that white births are now outnumbered by white deaths in 26 states, up from 17 in 2014 and four in 2004.

Meanwhile, Americaís foreign-born population is projected to rise from 14 percent of the population today to 17 percent in 2060, 2 percentage points above the record set in 1890. The rise has been staggering in its speed: As recently as the 1970s, Americaís foreign-born population was under 5 percent.

The countryís gender dynamics are also in flux. Hillary Clinton was not just the first female presidential candidate to win the popular vote but the first to be nominated by a major political party. Women now make up 56 percent of college students, and are 8 percentage points more likely than men to have earned a bachelorís degree by age 29.

Demographers can and do disagree over whether these projections will hold. Perhaps Hispanic whites will begin identifying simply as whites in the coming years, much as the Irish became white in the 20th century. Race is what we make of it, and what we make of it shifts and mutates.

Another way to say that is itís often our perception of race and power that matters. In that case, though, most Americans feel the browning of America is happening even faster than the demographers report. Back in 2013, the Center for American Progress, PolicyLink, and the Rockefeller Foundation surveyed Americans and found that the median participant believed the country was 49 percent nonwhite; the correct answer was 37 percent.

I spent months talking with politicians, social psychologists, and political scientists about what happens in moments like this one, moments when a majority feels its dominance beginning to fail. The answer, attested to in mountains of studies and visible everywhere in our politics, is this: Change of this magnitude acts on us psychologically, not just electorally. It is the crucial context uniting the core political conflicts of this era ó Obama and Trumpís presidencies, the rise of reactionary new social movements and thinkers, the wars over political correctness on campuses and representation in Hollywood, the power of #MeToo and BlackLivesMatter, the fights over immigration.

Demographic change, and the fears and hopes it evokes, is one of the tectonic forces shaping this era in American life, joining income inequality and political polarization in transforming every aspect of our politics and culture. But to understand what it is doing to us as a country, we need to begin by understanding what it does to us as individuals.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race -politics-immigration


OriginalGoober - 8/2/2018 at 12:49 AM


The same Whites elected Former President Obama and elected President Trump. Stop looking for a boogyman to reinforce what you are fed in CNN land.

[Edited on 8/2/2018 by OriginalGoober]


OriginalGoober - 8/2/2018 at 12:58 AM


CNN Land:




BoytonBrother - 8/2/2018 at 01:14 AM

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The same Whites elected Former President Obama and elected President Trump.


Not even close to true, but whatever makes you feel secure.

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Stop looking for a boogyman to reinforce what you are fed in CNN land.


Itís just an article...but you see a boogeyman....interesting! Even more interesting is seeing the reactions of you and BIGV melting down at the mere mention of race. No capacity to discuss it without freaking out. CNN....the article was from Vox, but you spit out CNN instead like the Russian-programmed robot you are. Now I see why a boogeyman is on your mind.





[Edited on 8/2/2018 by BoytonBrother]


Muleman1994 - 8/3/2018 at 05:17 PM

Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Black pastors see Trump bringing 'new hope
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/03/black-pastors-see-trump-bringing -new-hope-but-still-need-to-convince-their-flocks.html

Donald Trump meets with black pastors at 'amazing meeting'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/30/donald-trump-meets-with-black-pa stors-at-amazing-meeting.html


BoytonBrother - 8/3/2018 at 06:29 PM

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Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Obama is your boogeyman - calm under pressure, successful, articulate, and popular...all the things you and Trump wish you were, but are not, despite having more advantages than he had. That frightens you, so you call him a failure. Whatever makes you feel secure.


Muleman1994 - 8/3/2018 at 06:48 PM

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Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Obama is your boogeyman - calm under pressure, successful, articulate, and popular...all the things you and Trump wish you were, but are not, despite having more advantages than he had. That frightens you, so you call him a failure. Whatever makes you feel secure.



Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.
Now run back and get some more talking points from Fake News (formally known as CNN). Their ratings which are lower than HGTV and The Cartoon Network.




[Edited on 8/3/2018 by Muleman1994]


BoytonBrother - 8/3/2018 at 07:04 PM

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Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.


Whatever makes you feel better, bro.

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Now run back and get some more talking points from Fake News (formally known as CNN). Their ratings which are lower than HGTV and The Cartoon Network.


Now we agree on something! I worked in media for 20 years in a major market. I have a deep fond respect for journalistic integrity. CNN sickens me, and you are right to criticize them, along with all the other 24-hour "news" networks. Sucks that honest journalism is buried under all this sleaze and trash.


Sang - 8/3/2018 at 08:27 PM

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Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Obama is your boogeyman - calm under pressure, successful, articulate, and popular...all the things you and Trump wish you were, but are not, despite having more advantages than he had. That frightens you, so you call him a failure. Whatever makes you feel secure.



Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.
Now run back and get some more talking points from Fake News (formally known as CNN). Their ratings which are lower than HGTV and The Cartoon Network.





Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever

-Funny that you could post that with a straight face with our current president's resume.......

Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.

A Fox news poll doesn't count....

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-rank-barack-obama-best-president- lifetimes-poll/story?id=56545031

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/barack-obama-best-president-of-our-lifetime-44-p ercent-of-americans-say-in-poll


jkeller - 8/3/2018 at 11:06 PM

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Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Obama is your boogeyman - calm under pressure, successful, articulate, and popular...all the things you and Trump wish you were, but are not, despite having more advantages than he had. That frightens you, so you call him a failure. Whatever makes you feel secure.



Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.
Now run back and get some more talking points from Fake News (formally known as CNN). Their ratings which are lower than HGTV and The Cartoon Network.




[Edited on 8/3/2018 by Muleman1994]


Trump os a traitor. Your support Trump therefore, You are a traitor to the United States. Own it.

And please, show us a link that supports "Obama was the worst president of the modern era".

Ratings have nothing to do with accuracy. Too bad that flies over your head every day.

[Edited on 8/3/2018 by jkeller]


Muleman1994 - 8/4/2018 at 03:10 PM

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Obamaís failure as President was not because of the color of his skin and no conservative has said that.

Obama failed because he was an amateur with no professional experience what so ever and he was controlled by his far-left extremist political agenda.

President Trump has done more for black people in 18 months than Obama did in 8 years.


Obama is your boogeyman - calm under pressure, successful, articulate, and popular...all the things you and Trump wish you were, but are not, despite having more advantages than he had. That frightens you, so you call him a failure. Whatever makes you feel secure.



Obama was voted the worst President of the modern era by the American People.
Now run back and get some more talking points from Fake News (formally known as CNN). Their ratings which are lower than HGTV and The Cartoon Network.




[Edited on 8/3/2018 by Muleman1994]


Trump os a traitor. Your support Trump therefore, You are a traitor to the United States. Own it.

And please, show us a link that supports "Obama was the worst president of the modern era".

Ratings have nothing to do with accuracy. Too bad that flies over your head every day.

[Edited on 8/3/2018 by jkeller]



I posted the link that supports "Obama was the worst president of the modern era" quite some time ago.

I was a hit because is sent the far-left liberals into yet another temper-tantrum.

Try to keep up son.


Muleman1994 - 8/4/2018 at 05:47 PM

Even Obama's socialism sponsor acknowledges Obama's failure:


George Soros: Obama was 'my greatest disappointment'

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/18/george-soros-obama-was-my- greatest-disappointment/


BoytonBrother - 8/4/2018 at 06:26 PM

Obama turned the economy into a steady incline after the worst recession since the 20s. Congrats Obama.


Muleman1994 - 8/4/2018 at 08:16 PM

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Obama turned the economy into a steady incline after the worst recession since the 20s. Congrats Obama.


Yea, a steady incline up a mountain he failed to scale.
Lethargic stagnant, and weak.


pops42 - 8/4/2018 at 10:07 PM

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Obama turned the economy into a steady incline after the worst recession since the 20s. Congrats Obama.


Yea, a steady incline up a mountain he failed to scale.
Lethargic stagnant, and weak.

Add smelly, dumb and ugly, and you would have an accurate self description. perfect image of of You.


MartinD28 - 8/4/2018 at 10:21 PM

What is it about Russia loving Trump that he has a pattern of going after black athletes? Is this a way of appealing to his base, or is he just a racist to the core of his being?

At least the First Lady doesn't seem to share his views.

"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-praises-lebron-james-19524172 4.html


Muleman1994 - 8/4/2018 at 11:25 PM

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What is it about Russia loving Trump that he has a pattern of going after black athletes? Is this a way of appealing to his base, or is he just a racist to the core of his being?

At least the First Lady doesn't seem to share his views.

"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-praises-lebron-james-19524172 4.html



As with the rest of the lar-left extremists everything you throw has to end in an .ism, .ist or phobe.
Hillary tried the class warfare and identity politics in the last election which she of course lost.

You have no need to wonder why the people reject your type.



pops42 - 8/4/2018 at 11:53 PM

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What is it about Russia loving Trump that he has a pattern of going after black athletes? Is this a way of appealing to his base, or is he just a racist to the core of his being?

At least the First Lady doesn't seem to share his views.

"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-praises-lebron-james-19524172 4.html
trump is a racist and a traitor to the U.S., just like you.


As with the rest of the lar-left extremists everything you throw has to end in an .ism, .ist or phobe.
Hillary tried the class warfare and identity politics in the last election which she of course lost.

You have no need to wonder why the people reject your type.




MartinD28 - 8/5/2018 at 01:17 AM

Trump, the traitor has this weekend gone after Don Lemon, LeBron James, and Maxine Waters. Is there a commonality here? They have skin color unacceptable to Trump, the racist.

Remember after Trump came down the escalator to give his famous speech about Mexicans? Remember his statements about white nationalists and anti semites last year in Charlottesviile? He truly is the one who lives in a polarized mindset.

It has been pointed out while LeBron is putting children in schools, Oligarch Trump has been putting children in cages.

This is what our country, a melting pot has come to, and to think that people identify with his kind of thinking.

Trump's wife has put out statements reflecting a difference with his stances. When will she leave him?


BoytonBrother - 8/5/2018 at 03:32 AM

They can't take that a black man makes them look homeless in comparison.


Muleman1994 - 8/5/2018 at 05:24 PM

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Trump, the traitor has this weekend gone after Don Lemon, LeBron James, and Maxine Waters. Is there a commonality here? They have skin color unacceptable to Trump, the racist.

Remember after Trump came down the escalator to give his famous speech about Mexicans? Remember his statements about white nationalists and anti semites last year in Charlottesviile? He truly is the one who lives in a polarized mindset.

It has been pointed out while LeBron is putting children in schools, Oligarch Trump has been putting children in cages.

This is what our country, a melting pot has come to, and to think that people identify with his kind of thinking.

Trump's wife has put out statements reflecting a difference with his stances. When will she leave him?



Your post is full of crap, pretty much exactly as the corrupt liberal media spews everyday.

It's all good.

President Trump's approval rating is a 50% and continues to climb long ago passing Obama at the same points in time.

President Trump's success blows away the far-left's rhetoric.


BrerRabbit - 8/5/2018 at 09:55 PM

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Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this way, but the tone of this site over the past year, certain members, turning anyone that thought they may vote for Trump into the enemy, made coming here a drag - so if those members visit less, it may make the site more fun again.


BoytonBrother - 8/6/2018 at 04:38 AM

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Yea, a steady incline up a mountain he failed to scale.


What a cricket fest. Swing and a miss.


Bhawk - 8/6/2018 at 12:06 PM

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class warfare and identity politics


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You have no need to wonder why the people reject your type.


All in the same post. Good grief.


sckeys - 8/6/2018 at 01:54 PM

He always equates non whites and low IQs. It seems to be a go to theme.


Muleman1994 - 8/6/2018 at 02:20 PM

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He always equates non whites and low IQs. It seems to be a go to theme.



Keep playing the race card.
It seems that identity politics is all the left has to throw.
One day the left may figure out that plan doesn't work.


BoytonBrother - 8/6/2018 at 05:40 PM

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i∑den∑ti∑ty pol∑i∑tics
noun
a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.


Iíd rather see white supremists form alliances with Christians, and Iíd rather see minorities form alliances with liberals, than see our President form an alliance with a hostile foreign adversary like weíve seen. For the first time in my life, in 2020, I will forget political issues when voting - I just want someone who has the U.S.ís best interests at heart. Thatís my only requirement.

Like everything else, it exists on both sides. Itís a shame some grown men never learned this, or are too scared to seek the truth. Either way, Sad!


The_Newt - 8/6/2018 at 07:16 PM

What about Iberian whites? There are a lot of us.


gina - 8/6/2018 at 10:37 PM

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Hereís an interesting article about what I believe is at the root of the Obama hatred, and Trump victory.


White threat in a browning America

How demographic change is fracturing our politics.

Ezra KleinJuly 30, 2018 6:00 am

In 2008, Barack Obama held up change as a beacon, attaching to it another word, a word that channeled everything his young and diverse coalition saw in his rise and their newfound political power: hope. An America that would elect a black man president was an America in which a future was being written that would read thrillingly different from our past.

In 2016, Donald Trump wielded that same sense of change as a threat; he was the revanchist voice of those who yearned to make America the way it was before, to make it great again. That was the impulse that connected the wall to keep Mexicans out, the ban to keep Muslims away, the birtherism meant to prove Obama couldnít possibly be a legitimate president. An America that would elect Donald Trump president was an America in which a future was being written that could read thrillingly similar to our past.

This is the core cleavage of our politics, and it reflects the fundamental reality of our era: America is changing, and fast. According to the Census Bureau, 2013 marked the first year that a majority of US infants under the age of 1 were nonwhite. The announcement, made during the second term of the nationís first African-American president, was not a surprise. Demographers had been predicting such a tipping point for years, and they foresaw more to come.


The government predicts that in 2030, immigration will overtake new births as the dominant driver of population growth. About 15 years after that, America will phase into majority-minority status ó for the first time in the nationís history, non-Hispanic whites will no longer make up a majority of the population.

That cross will come in part because Americaís black, Hispanic, Asian, and mixed-race populations are expected to grow ó indeed, the Hispanic and Asian populations are expected to roughly double, and the mixed-race population to triple. Meanwhile, the non-Hispanic white population is, uniquely, expected to fall, dipping from 199 million in 2020 to 179 million in 2060. The Census Bureau minces no words here: ďThe only group projected to shrink is the non-Hispanic White population,Ē they report.

This isnít just a statement about the future; itís a description of the present. The economist Jed Kolko notes that the most common age for white Americans is 58, for Asians itís 29, for African Americans itís 27, and for Hispanics itís 11. A new report out of the University of Wisconsin Madisonís Applied Population Lab found that white births are now outnumbered by white deaths in 26 states, up from 17 in 2014 and four in 2004.

Meanwhile, Americaís foreign-born population is projected to rise from 14 percent of the population today to 17 percent in 2060, 2 percentage points above the record set in 1890. The rise has been staggering in its speed: As recently as the 1970s, Americaís foreign-born population was under 5 percent.

The countryís gender dynamics are also in flux. Hillary Clinton was not just the first female presidential candidate to win the popular vote but the first to be nominated by a major political party. Women now make up 56 percent of college students, and are 8 percentage points more likely than men to have earned a bachelorís degree by age 29.

Demographers can and do disagree over whether these projections will hold. Perhaps Hispanic whites will begin identifying simply as whites in the coming years, much as the Irish became white in the 20th century. Race is what we make of it, and what we make of it shifts and mutates.

Another way to say that is itís often our perception of race and power that matters. In that case, though, most Americans feel the browning of America is happening even faster than the demographers report. Back in 2013, the Center for American Progress, PolicyLink, and the Rockefeller Foundation surveyed Americans and found that the median participant believed the country was 49 percent nonwhite; the correct answer was 37 percent.

I spent months talking with politicians, social psychologists, and political scientists about what happens in moments like this one, moments when a majority feels its dominance beginning to fail. The answer, attested to in mountains of studies and visible everywhere in our politics, is this: Change of this magnitude acts on us psychologically, not just electorally. It is the crucial context uniting the core political conflicts of this era ó Obama and Trumpís presidencies, the rise of reactionary new social movements and thinkers, the wars over political correctness on campuses and representation in Hollywood, the power of #MeToo and BlackLivesMatter, the fights over immigration.

Demographic change, and the fears and hopes it evokes, is one of the tectonic forces shaping this era in American life, joining income inequality and political polarization in transforming every aspect of our politics and culture. But to understand what it is doing to us as a country, we need to begin by understanding what it does to us as individuals.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race -politics-immigration


The demographics of America are changing just due to the ages of the people in different races and ethnicities. There was an article about Long Island where I am, and the greatest increase in population is Hispanic and Asian Americans. We have more than half a million Hispanics here now in a place that has never had that demographic. The Asians also are very smart and in demand in NYC businesses. Whites get old, sell their houses and move out. That's what is going on here. It is expensive to live here so the only whites migrating here or remaining here have two people working with nice incomes. The average income now is $86,000, yet if you look at the jobs that are posted they are paying very substandard wages, which encourages minorities to move here, and have children because they can get close to $200 a month for food per child, and get subsidized rent because they claim they do not know where the children's Father is, and get medical too.


sckeys - 8/6/2018 at 11:29 PM

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He always equates non whites and low IQs. It seems to be a go to theme.



Keep playing the race card.
It seems that identity politics is all the left has to throw.
One day the left may figure out that plan doesn't work.



Race card? I havenít equated non whites with low IQs, our Supreme Leader has.


Muleman1994 - 8/6/2018 at 11:37 PM

The demographics of America have been changing for hundreds of years.
Now for some it is a big deal?


BoytonBrother - 8/7/2018 at 06:13 PM

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Now for some it is a big deal?


Apparently there was a lawyer in NYC who had a problem with it. And there was a rally in Charlottesville recently with some very fine people who think itís a big deal too.


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