Thread: Today's Lesson

OriginalGoober - 5/9/2018 at 12:48 AM


When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


MartinD28 - 5/9/2018 at 12:55 AM

As one analyst stated, Trump couldn't speak 5 sentences of the detail in the original deal. It was aimed at undoing yet another action of Obama's.

Sorry to bust your dream goob, but there will be no wall. But there may be a pleading of the 5th that Trump said mob types use.


BIGV - 5/9/2018 at 01:25 AM

quote:
Sorry to bust your dream goob, but there will be no wall.


Nothing more than your belief, versus what is entirely possible.


OriginalGoober - 5/9/2018 at 01:29 AM


This reset of Iranian relations is a great thing for the Iranian people.


OriginalGoober - 5/9/2018 at 01:57 AM

Under President Trump we will not be seeing photos of US soldiers being humiliated by the Iranian navy.

Perhaps Obama and Kerry were so in-love with their deal they allowed this to happen to our military:



What a message Obama sent to the military, that they are expendable and jeopardizing the deal was more important.





[Edited on 5/9/2018 by OriginalGoober]


jkeller - 5/9/2018 at 02:05 AM

quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.


jkeller - 5/9/2018 at 02:06 AM

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Under President Trump we will not be seeing photos of US soldiers being humiliated by the Iranian navy.


Why not? Iran has no reason to respect a country that withdraws from agreements.


2112 - 5/9/2018 at 06:28 AM

quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Why would they give any cash back? Do you think Trump gives money back to a contractor who breaks a contract? When you break a contract, you pay for the damages.


lukester420 - 5/9/2018 at 08:21 AM

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When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


But...but... Mexico is paying for the wall


MartinD28 - 5/9/2018 at 11:29 AM

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Sorry to bust your dream goob, but there will be no wall.


Nothing more than your belief, versus what is entirely possible.



Not my belief, but the fact is the GOP House and Senate gave Trump nothing more than a tiny percentage of what a wall would cost. Why is that? Where is the money coming from to support your desire for a wall? If the Dems retake either the House or Senate later this year, do you think the probability increases that funding will included in a budget for the wall, or is it more likely that the wall becomes lame duck and nothing more than a campaign chant at a Trump rally?


LeafontheWind - 5/9/2018 at 01:20 PM

Watch the sleaze backtrack it somehow. Trump likes to cancel deals as a sort of bad faith bargaining chip.

I'll be bumping this thread later for ye ol' told ya so.


BoytonBrother - 5/9/2018 at 01:58 PM

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When President Trump says he will pull out


This is the first time Trump has ever pulled out.

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This reset of Iranian relations is a great thing for the Iranian people.


And if there’s one thing we know about Goober, it’s his unwavering support and concern for the Iranian people. A true champion for the Middle Eastern Arab community!


BrerRabbit - 5/9/2018 at 04:23 PM


Great. Now we lost any grip we had on Iran, and they will look to China and Russia, Asian nuclear bloc solidified. It is one second to midnight and the second hand is trump's d*ck. It will be a miracle if we get through this administration without America becoming a flat plain of glass.


BIGV - 5/9/2018 at 05:27 PM

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or is it more likely that the wall becomes lame duck and nothing more than a campaign chant at a Trump rally?


You made a comment that you believe to be a fact, I merely believe a wall is possible.


adhill58 - 5/9/2018 at 07:32 PM

quote:
quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Why would they give any cash back? Do you think Trump gives money back to a contractor who breaks a contract? When you break a contract, you pay for the damages.



Why can nobody understand that the money belonged to Iran for the whole time? The U.S. had frozen that amount of Iranian money in banks here. The "Nuclear Deal" unfroze the money. Morons act like Obama handed a half-billion dollars of our tax money to Iran because that sounds so much worse. Deal in the facts, please.


BIGV - 5/9/2018 at 07:50 PM

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The U.S. had frozen that amount of Iranian money in banks here.


"Frozen"...Why?


2112 - 5/9/2018 at 09:47 PM

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The U.S. had frozen that amount of Iranian money in banks here.


"Frozen"...Why?


President Carter froze Iranian assets in the US during the hostage situation. Some were released by Reagan in 1981. The rest remained in an escrow account. It was always their money and never belonged to the US.

Unfreezing those assets were a carrot in the nuclear negotiations. The money that was sent to them was monew that belong to them but was held by the US government as a sanction. It was not US taxpayer money.


OriginalGoober - 5/9/2018 at 11:24 PM


The days of appeasment are over. If Iranian leaders want a deal, they need to understand there is a new sherriff in town.


BoytonBrother - 5/9/2018 at 11:25 PM

for a few more years, then back to business as usual.


dutchoneill - 5/9/2018 at 11:29 PM

6 1/2


BoytonBrother - 5/9/2018 at 11:30 PM

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The days of appeasment are over. If Iranian leaders want a deal, they need to understand there is a new sherriff in town.


And his name is Robert Mueller.


MartinD28 - 5/9/2018 at 11:51 PM

quote:

The days of appeasment are over. If Iranian leaders want a deal, they need to understand there is a new sherriff in town.




You give far too much credit to recently pardoned Sheriff Joe Arpaio.


Muleman1994 - 5/10/2018 at 04:41 PM

quote:
quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.




BoytonBrother - 5/10/2018 at 07:07 PM

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It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.


What is your experience and/or education in international law?


2112 - 5/10/2018 at 07:42 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.


Muleman1994 - 5/10/2018 at 08:51 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.



The Obama/Kerry deal was never approved by The Congress and therefore the U.S. has no obligation to it.

It was Obama that wanted his Islamic Extremist Terrorist friends in Iran to get a nuclear weapon and the mean to deliver it.

President Trump has just put a stop to yet another Obama failure.


2112 - 5/11/2018 at 02:48 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.



The Obama/Kerry deal was never approved by The Congress and therefore the U.S. has no obligation to it.

It was Obama that wanted his Islamic Extremist Terrorist friends in Iran to get a nuclear weapon and the mean to deliver it.

President Trump has just put a stop to yet another Obama failure.




The agreement was working, but now Iran will go back to developing a nuclear weapon. His advisors, you know, the guys who actually know stuff, told him not to break the agreement. Yeah, great job Trump.


Muleman1994 - 5/11/2018 at 04:38 PM

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quote:
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When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.



The Obama/Kerry deal was never approved by The Congress and therefore the U.S. has no obligation to it.

It was Obama that wanted his Islamic Extremist Terrorist friends in Iran to get a nuclear weapon and the mean to deliver it.

President Trump has just put a stop to yet another Obama failure.




The agreement was working, but now Iran will go back to developing a nuclear weapon. His advisors, you know, the guys who actually know stuff, told him not to break the agreement. Yeah, great job Trump.




The agreement was not working.

- Iran was given a clear path to nuclear weapons.
- No American inspectors could ever enter Iran.
- Only IAEA inspectors “approved by Iran” were allowed to do inspections and Iran had to be given a 3 week notice. The IAEA inspectors are incompetent as proven during the Iraq inspections.
- All of Iran’s advanced development sites are in their military bases and no inspections are allowed ever.
- Iran could continue to develop long range missiles.


If you need even more reasons why this so-called deal was a piece of crap see Sen. Schumer's ripping of Obama and Kerry in 2015. The You-Tube videos are easily accessible.

The Obama/Kerry deal accomplished nothing.



[Edited on 5/11/2018 by Muleman1994]


2112 - 5/11/2018 at 04:59 PM

So right after Trump announces the US is breaking the agreement, Iran and Isreal start firing missiles at each other and Saudi Arabia says they may persue a nuclear weapons program. Thanks Trump. What leadership!


Muleman1994 - 5/11/2018 at 05:32 PM

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So right after Trump announces the US is breaking the agreement, Iran and Isreal start firing missiles at each other and Saudi Arabia says they may persue a nuclear weapons program. Thanks Trump. What leadership!



"Iran and Isreal start firing missiles at each other" - so what else is new? Iran attacked Israel and Israel fought back.

"Saudi Arabia says they may persue a nuclear weapons program" - exactly as they did when Obama and Kerry made their piece of crap deal with Iran.

BTW:
Isreal is spelled Israel.
persue - is spelled pursue.





2112 - 5/11/2018 at 10:29 PM

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quote:
So right after Trump announces the US is breaking the agreement, Iran and Isreal start firing missiles at each other and Saudi Arabia says they may persue a nuclear weapons program. Thanks Trump. What leadership!



"Iran and Isreal start firing missiles at each other" - so what else is new? Iran attacked Israel and Israel fought back.

"Saudi Arabia says they may persue a nuclear weapons program" - exactly as they did when Obama and Kerry made their piece of crap deal with Iran.

BTW:
Isreal is spelled Israel.
persue - is spelled pursue.







Sorry, please covfeefe my spelling errors.


StratDal - 5/12/2018 at 12:12 AM

quote:
Under President Trump we will not be seeing photos of US soldiers being humiliated by the Iranian navy.

Perhaps Obama and Kerry were so in-love with their deal they allowed this to happen to our military:



What a message Obama sent to the military, that they are expendable and jeopardizing the deal was more important.





[Edited on 5/9/2018 by OriginalGoober]


“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Donald Trump


2112 - 5/12/2018 at 12:26 AM

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When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.



The Obama/Kerry deal was never approved by The Congress and therefore the U.S. has no obligation to it.

It was Obama that wanted his Islamic Extremist Terrorist friends in Iran to get a nuclear weapon and the mean to deliver it.

President Trump has just put a stop to yet another Obama failure.




The agreement was working, but now Iran will go back to developing a nuclear weapon. His advisors, you know, the guys who actually know stuff, told him not to break the agreement. Yeah, great job Trump.




The agreement was not working.

- Iran was given a clear path to nuclear weapons.
- No American inspectors could ever enter Iran.
- Only IAEA inspectors “approved by Iran” were allowed to do inspections and Iran had to be given a 3 week notice. The IAEA inspectors are incompetent as proven during the Iraq inspections.
- All of Iran’s advanced development sites are in their military bases and no inspections are allowed ever.
- Iran could continue to develop long range missiles.


If you need even more reasons why this so-called deal was a piece of crap see Sen. Schumer's ripping of Obama and Kerry in 2015. The You-Tube videos are easily accessible.

The Obama/Kerry deal accomplished nothing.


So, do you think President Trump should fire Joint Chiefs Chairman Dunford and Defense Secretary Mattis for disagreeing with Trump and saying it is a mistake for the US to exit the agreement?


Muleman1994 - 5/14/2018 at 01:40 PM

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quote:

When President Trump says he will pull out of Obama&Kerry Iran deal. He means it.

Does the USA get the pallets of cash back?

The money can go towards the border wall.


Hey Goob, tell us why North korea will believe any treaty that Trump pushes? What they see is a guy who goes back on the country's deal.




The "Iran Deal" was not a "country deal".

It was purely an Obama/Kerry piece of crap that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate openly stated they would not approve it.

The Obama/Kerry Iran deal was never approved by The United States.



It was not a US deal. It was an international deal between the US, UK, China, Russia, France and Germany.

But apparently Trump wants to see Iran with nuclear weapons.



The Obama/Kerry deal was never approved by The Congress and therefore the U.S. has no obligation to it.

It was Obama that wanted his Islamic Extremist Terrorist friends in Iran to get a nuclear weapon and the mean to deliver it.

President Trump has just put a stop to yet another Obama failure.




The agreement was working, but now Iran will go back to developing a nuclear weapon. His advisors, you know, the guys who actually know stuff, told him not to break the agreement. Yeah, great job Trump.




The agreement was not working.

- Iran was given a clear path to nuclear weapons.
- No American inspectors could ever enter Iran.
- Only IAEA inspectors “approved by Iran” were allowed to do inspections and Iran had to be given a 3 week notice. The IAEA inspectors are incompetent as proven during the Iraq inspections.
- All of Iran’s advanced development sites are in their military bases and no inspections are allowed ever.
- Iran could continue to develop long range missiles.


If you need even more reasons why this so-called deal was a piece of crap see Sen. Schumer's ripping of Obama and Kerry in 2015. The You-Tube videos are easily accessible.

The Obama/Kerry deal accomplished nothing.


So, do you think President Trump should fire Joint Chiefs Chairman Dunford and Defense Secretary Mattis for disagreeing with Trump and saying it is a mistake for the US to exit the agreement?


No.
I think President Trump did the right thing and got us out of another bad deal by Obama.


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