Thread: John Kerry No Longer a Diplomat continues to meet with Iran in Secret

OriginalGoober - 5/8/2018 at 01:19 AM

SOURCE: BOSTON GLOBE


WASHINGTON — President Trump ripped into John Kerry on Monday morning after a Globe story detailed the former secretary of state’s behind-the-scenes attempts to salvage the Iran nuclear deal, a signature Kerry accomplishment that Trump may choose to scuttle as soon as Tuesday.

The Globe reported on Friday that Kerry has been in touch privately with European leaders and the Iranian foreign minister in a bid to keep the 2015 pact alive more than a year after he left office.

“The United States does not need John Kerry’s possibly illegal Shadow Diplomacy on the very badly negotiated Iran Deal,” Trump wrote on Twitter on Monday. “He was the one that created this MESS in the first place!”


Kerry met privately two weeks ago at the United Nations with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif to discuss ways to preserve the pact, which is supposed to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons in exchange for easing economic sanctions. He also held discussions with French President Emmanuel Macron, German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and top European Union official Federica Mogherini, according to a source familiar with the meetings.


Read: Scot Lehigh: Kerry says Trump’s behavior toward Iran complicates his North Korean gambit
“I think every American would want every voice possible urging Iran to remain in compliance with the nuclear agreement that prevented a war,” the spokesman, Matt Summers, wrote in the statement. “Secretary Kerry stays in touch with his former counterparts around the world just like every previous Secretary of State. Like America’s closest allies, he believes it is important that the nuclear agreement, which took the world years to negotiate, remain effective as countries focus on stability in the region.”

Kerry has been meeting with members of Congress in an effort to build support for the deal. Some of his discussions with foreign leaders have been around trying to preserve the agreement even if Trump backs out.

The White House had declined several requests for comment before the Globe story was published on Friday afternoon. Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on Monday that they would not comment beyond Trump’s tweet.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Justice declined to comment on Trump’s tweet, or whether they were pursuing anything related to Trump’s suggestion that Kerry engaged in “possibly illegal” activity.

After the Globe article appeared, Kerry came under fierce criticism from Republicans who charge that he is acting inappropriately in an attempt to potentially undermine a current US administration. Some have suggested that he could be in violation of the Logan Act, an obscure 18th-century law meant to crack down on private citizens acting on behalf of the United States during a dispute with foreign governments.

“Kerry working with foreign governments to save the flawed #IranDeal certainly raises Logan Act questions,” Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, tweeted on Saturday. “Plus, imagine if former Sec. Rice had done this to Obama. What would the reaction have been? #DoubleStandard”

“OMG! Logan Act violations!!” wrote Representative Devin Nunes, a California Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “Send in the G Men...”

“John Kerry is now violating the Logan Act and nobody seems to care,” Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who recently joined Trump’s legal team, said Sunday on ABC News.


StratDal - 5/8/2018 at 03:57 PM

Okay. If Kerry has violated any laws, then he must be charged.


Muleman1994 - 5/8/2018 at 04:07 PM

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Okay. If Kerry has violated any laws, then he must be charged.


Kerry is in violation of the Logan Act.

The problem is that Act., which has never been used, is the one Mueller's biased probe is trying to use against Gen Flynn and that case is on permanent hold.


The new Judge in that case is requiring Mueller's prosecutors to prove they have the authority to bring the case and they must present the evidence which so far they have been withholding hiding behind national security.




BrerRabbit - 5/8/2018 at 05:11 PM

Ah yes, the old "Turn the pointless Kerry Thread Into Yet Another Pointless Mueller Thread" trick. Nice try, but no cigar.

[Edited on 5/8/2018 by BrerRabbit]


Muleman1994 - 5/8/2018 at 06:28 PM

President Trump kills the Obama/Kerry agreement to let Iran continue to develop nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them.

Another Obama failure fixed.


BoytonBrother - 5/8/2018 at 07:39 PM

Yet another news story that triggers Goob and Mule. They are so fragile.


Muleman1994 - 5/10/2018 at 08:58 PM

Trump slams 'Cryin' Chuck Schumer' for Iran deal flip-flop
By Adam Shaw | Fox News

President Trump on Thursday blasted Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., for criticizing the withdrawal from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal -- noting that Schumer opposed the deal when then-President Barack Obama negotiated it.

“Senator Cryin’ Chuck Schumer fought hard against the Bad Iran Deal, even going at it with President Obama, & then Voted AGAINST it!” Trump tweeted Thursday. "Now he says I should not have terminated the deal - but he doesn’t really believe that!"

Trump went on to suggest he had done a similar about-face on the firing of former FBI Director James Comey.

Trump announced Tuesday that he was pulling the U.S. out of the Iran deal, which he had long opposed. Trump said the deal had been “so poorly negotiated that even if Iran fully complies, the regime can still be on the verge of a nuclear breakout in just a short period of time.”

In 2015, Schumer praised Obama and then-Secretary of State John Kerry for their work on the agreement, but issued a lengthy statement detailing why he could not support it.

“It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power,” he said.

“Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be,” he said at the time.

On Wednesday, Schumer said that Iran has not violated the agreement and that Trump's move could damage international cooperation.

“By dividing our allies ... you’re making it harder to go after Hezbollah, you’re making it harder to go after Iranian activities that are really dangerous and you’re probably making it harder to come to a North Korea deal,” he told reporters.

On Thursday, he responded to Trump’s tweet by using first lady Melania Trump’s anti-bullying hashtag: “#BeBest.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/10/trump-slams-cryin-chuck-schumer- for-iran-deal-flip-flop.html


Schumer pulls a reverse Kerry.
He was against it before he was for it.




Billastro - 5/11/2018 at 01:23 AM

It would be interesting to see whether BrerRabbit and BoytonBrother have any comments with substance to add to the discussion. Their responses would get them laughed out of any serious debates. Most often I've seen that when the loyal opposition doesn't have any thoughts to back up their statements, they resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, like young'uns on the playground.

Billastro


BoytonBrother - 5/11/2018 at 02:45 AM

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It would be interesting to see whether BrerRabbit and BoytonBrother have any comments with substance to add to the discussion.Their responses would get them laughed out of any serious debates.


Well thank you for your comment of substance above that adds to the discussion. And you think Goober and Mule try to have serious debates? By the way, I was going for laughter. Thank you!

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Most often I've seen that when the loyal opposition doesn't have any thoughts to back up their statements, they resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, like young'uns on the playground.


What statements? I make fun of their stupidity, and everyone backs me up on that. If you think Mule and Goober create these threads to have a serious discussion, then please, feel free to engage with them. I’ll be waiting for this serious debate you speak of.

[Edited on 5/11/2018 by BoytonBrother]


2112 - 5/11/2018 at 02:57 AM

quote:
It would be interesting to see whether BrerRabbit and BoytonBrother have any comments with substance to add to the discussion. Their responses would get them laughed out of any serious debates. Most often I've seen that when the loyal opposition doesn't have any thoughts to back up their statements, they resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, like young'uns on the playground.

Billastro


Hey look, it's Bill. The guy who once said he would never hire or respect someone who has committed adultry, back to support his favorite multiple time adulturer president. Where have you been?

Anyway, if Kerry has violated the Logan Act, then he should be charged as such.


BrerRabbit - 5/11/2018 at 03:31 AM

Criticism noted. Apology out to Goob, who is very civil and doesn't insult folks. Offending post deleted.


MartinD28 - 5/11/2018 at 11:41 AM

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quote:
It would be interesting to see whether BrerRabbit and BoytonBrother have any comments with substance to add to the discussion. Their responses would get them laughed out of any serious debates. Most often I've seen that when the loyal opposition doesn't have any thoughts to back up their statements, they resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, like young'uns on the playground.

Billastro


Hey look, it's Bill. The guy who once said he would never hire or respect someone who has committed adultry, back to support his favorite multiple time adulturer president. Where have you been?

Anyway, if Kerry has violated the Logan Act, then he should be charged as such.


If you're referring to our morally respected president, c'mon...he denies the Stormy Daniels fling, the Karen McDougal multi month affair, and he denies groping 17 women. Is there a reason you don't accept him at face value? He is a role model for the next generation.


Muleman1994 - 5/11/2018 at 04:22 PM

quote:
It would be interesting to see whether BrerRabbit and BoytonBrother have any comments with substance to add to the discussion. Their responses would get them laughed out of any serious debates. Most often I've seen that when the loyal opposition doesn't have any thoughts to back up their statements, they resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, like young'uns on the playground.

Billastro



"any comments with substance to add to the discussion"

Good luck.
The two you noted, amongst some others, simply will not engage on substance because so often the thread destroys their political agenda.
Uninformed or politically pigeonholed any discussion devolves into insults.

I have been the subject of their insults but when I shoot back they throw a temper tantrum.

Oh well, the fats stand as the truth.


BoytonBrother - 5/11/2018 at 05:26 PM

I don’t have a political agenda. I vote for the best candidates and campaign. I was ready to vote red for the first time in my life, but then this creature got the nod. Oh well. I call out the lowest rung of our social ladder - people who abandon ration and ignore right and wrong, who breed dysfunction and cancers to our society, who need to fight to release their anger, whether Sean Hannity or CNN, both are the root of our problems.


Muleman1994 - 5/11/2018 at 05:28 PM

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I don’t have a political agenda. I vote for the best candidates and campaign. I was ready to vote red for the first time in my life, but then this creature got the nod. Oh well. I call out the lowest rung of our social ladder - people who abandon ration and ignore right and wrong, who breed dysfunction and cancers to our society, who need to fight to release their anger, whether Sean Hannity or CNN, both are the root of our problems.



"I call out the lowest rung of our social ladder - people who abandon ration and ignore right and wrong"

Yet I did not hear your call out Obama and Kerry for their piece of crap deal.


BoytonBrother - 5/11/2018 at 05:41 PM

Neither of us are qualified to know. So why assume?


Muleman1994 - 5/11/2018 at 06:26 PM

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Neither of us are qualified to know. So why assume?



I do not assume.

I know the facts, have read the deal and listened to actual experts.

You might attempt the same and get informed.



Sang - 5/11/2018 at 06:30 PM

So he can troll people on a music website?


BoytonBrother - 5/11/2018 at 06:56 PM

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I do not assume.

I know the facts, have read the deal and listened to actual experts.

You might attempt the same and get informed.


Billastro would be unhappy and offended by this post that doesn't offer serious debate. Anyway, are you saying you know better than all the other world powers that were part of this deal?


BrerRabbit - 5/11/2018 at 07:43 PM

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So he can troll people on a music website?


Hahaha! Don't trivialize the importance of lambasting politically moderate dinosaurs in a sub-sub forum of a dwindling website of defunct rock band.




PhotoRon286 - 5/11/2018 at 09:14 PM

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So he can troll people on a music website?


Hahaha! Don't trivialize the importance of lambasting politically moderate dinosaurs in a sub-sub forum of a dwindling website of defunct rock band.






SOUTHERN Rock band.


BrerRabbit - 5/12/2018 at 05:36 AM

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Oh well, the fats stand as the truth.


hahahahaHA! Another WP classic.


gina - 5/12/2018 at 08:01 PM

You know why he went don't you? He's part of the GROUP. The ELITE who run things, who want the one world order. He's a member of the Skull and Bones group. It goes back further than him though.

Yale and Harvard along with several other “prestigious” universities are owned by the British Crown. They were authorized by the King of England through Crown Colonies. Yale University was authorized by the English Monarch through the Connecticut Colony.

The University of Harvard was authorized by the English Monarch through the Massachusetts Bay Colony. The Crown Colonies were issued from the City of London Corporation which is a sovereign municipal corporate state and one mile square block inside of London where royal and corporate charters are issued from. The Crown Colonies are companies owned by the British Monarchs and other royal families that do business inside of the City of London Corporation.

The British royal family uses these universities to recruit their Crown Agents who then serve their interests by infiltrating corporate and government agencies. Many high level members in US military and intelligence come from Yale, Brown, or Harvard. Many powerful politicians were educated at these Crown Universities. They mostly use secret societies or fraternities for recruiting Crown Agents like Skull and Bones, Book and Snake, Porcellian Club, or Phoenix-S K Club.

[SECRET SOCIETIES - Skull and Bones is a secret society. The Bushes and John Kerry are members of that.)

Porter Goss is a member of Book and Snake and was former Director of the CIA. Mark Zuckerberg who is worth over 75 billion has been linked with the Phoenix-SK Club. From CNN Anderson Cooper and David Gergen are members of Yale’s Manuscript Club.

The British Crown also uses Crown Knights as agents who pledge their allegiance to the House of Windsor and in return are granted power and wealth. All heads of MI6 have been knighted by the House of Windsor.

Former CIA Director and US President George Herbert Walker Bush was knighted under the Order of the Bath. Former US Secretary of State and National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger is a Knight of the British Empire. Henry Kissinger is a major developer of their depopulation agenda as the author of the National Security Study Memorandum a report on slowing population growth.

Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan is a Knight of the British Empire. John Franklyn Mars was knighted by the House of Windsor’s Order of the British Empire and he is worth about 26 billion. one of the wealthiest men on the planet is Bill Gates and he is a Knight of the British Empire and worth over 90 billion. Bill Gates also openly promotes depopulation and uses his wealth to impose deadly vaccines all around the world. Rudy Giuliani is a Knight of the British Empire. Former Mayor of New York City Michael Bloomberg is a Knight of the British Empire and worth about 50 billion. General Wesley Clark is a Knight of the British Empire. Steven Spielberg is Knight of the British Empire and worth about 3.7 billion. Ronald Reagan was a Knight of the British Empire. Shimon Peres the former President and Prime Minister of Israel was a British Knight of the Order of St Michael and St. George. Knights and Court Factors serve royal courts. Buckingham Palace is a royal court.


The City of London Corporation is a one mile square block in London where the 110 Livery Companies operate from. The 110 Livery Companies represent every industry in the global market. Most major corporations today are connected with the Livery Companies through proxies or subsidiaries. Business at the City of London is mostly private and they conceal ownership through private contracts. The Knights Templar of London were headquartered at the inner temple of the City of London and today are the Order of the Garter headed by the British royal family and British Peerage. The City of London Corporation, Knights Templar, and Order of the Garter all use the same red cross as a symbol.

The Knights Templar were merchants and bankers that held gold for pilgrims who traveled to Jerusalem and provided them with bank notes which were used at the Templar’s merchant shops along the way. The Knights Templar established modern banking. London merchants have a monopoly on gold and silver which they use as leverage over the markets and monetary system. They also manipulate the price of gold and silver from London. This Templar merchant and banking system is rigged and functions like covert monopolies through hidden corporate conglomerates.

Many universities, banks, and merchant companies are connected to the charters that were issued from the City of London Corporation. Some merchant and banking families that operate in London include the Grosvenor, Goldsmith, Rothschild, Montagu, Norman, Guinness, Bailey, Sassoon, and Barclay families. The billionaire brothers David and Frederick Barclay own Press Holdings which includes Telegraph Media Group.

Janus Henderson is located at the City of London Corporation and has assets estimated at around 330 billion. Janus Capital founded by Tom Bailey merged with Henderson Group. The Bailey family are Anglo-Irish bankers that are married with the Guinness family. Diageo which operates from London manufactures Guinness and made around 2.3 billion in 2016. Diageo is part of the Worshipful Company of Distillers. Barclays is a bank operating from the City of London Corporation and has assets at around 1.2 trillion.

The Barclay family are a Scottish and Quaker baronage with Peter Charles Barclay as the head. Ben Goldsmith co-founded WHEB Group an investment firm located in London. The Montagu family created Montagu Private Equity a buy out firm that is headquartered in London. Duke Richard Walter John Montagu Douglas Scott and Baron Ralph Douglas-Scott-Montagu are high level members of the Montagu clan. Hugh Grosvenor is worth about 16 billion and owns Grosvenor Group located in London with assets around 60 billion.

The United States is a federal corporation defined under US code 3002 section 15 and is really a continuation of the Virginia Company.

The Virginia Company was issued by the British Crown from the City of London Corporation for North American settlements. Former Governor of the Bank of England Baron Montagu Norman helped to established the Bank for International Settlements and worked with Nazi businessmen.

They are using the Bank for International Settlements as a proxy to steal from corporate governments through foreign tax contracts like the Belgian Scheldt Dues. They then launder and conceal the wealth in private Swiss bank accounts.

Washington DC was established as a municipal corporate state and headquarters of the United States through the 1871 District of Columbia Organic Act based on debts owed to foreign entities like the Hudson Bay Company, Irish Government, and Kingdom of Belgium. Prince Lorenz of Belgium works at Gutzwiller bank in Basel Switzerland right near the Bank for International Settlements and is overseeing the private accounts of the royal and noble families. The British HSBC Bank is international and operates in Switzerland. Some influential London bankers include Evelyn de Rothschild, Ben Goldsmith, Frank Zac Goldsmith, Baron James Sassoon, Duke Hugh Grosvenor, and Andrew Bailey.

Today Baron James Sassoon is an extremely influential banker from London whose family ran businesses in China, Iraq, and India as subsidiaries of the City of London chartered East India Company. HSBC was co-founded by the British knight Thomas Sutherland. The Sutherland family are a Scottish clan that hold titles of Barons with Countess Elizabeth Sutherland and Lord Alastair Sutherland as current members. The Hudson’s Bay Company was issued from the City of London Corporation by the Stuart family. All these families are British nobility and knights working under the Crown.

Baron Mervyn King of Lothbury is a Knight of the Order of the Garter and former Governor of the Bank of England and member of the Group of Thirty a DC based financial organization. Lothbury is a district of the one mile square block in the City of London Corporation. The current Governor of the Bank of England is Mark Carney who was Jesuit educated from St. Francis Xavier High School. Francis Xavier was a co-founder of the Jesuits.

Baron Peter Carington is a Knight of the Garter and has worked as a high level politician in the UK as Secretary of State for Defence, Secretary General of NATO, and Leader of Her Majesty’s Most Loyal Opposition a position currently held by Jeremy Corbyn who is a covert Crown knight. Baron Robin Butler of Brockwell is a Knight of the Garter and has been a non-executive Director of HSBC Group as well as Private Secretary for Her Majesty’s Treasury and Private Secretary to the Financial Secretary to the Treasury. Baron Charles Kay-Shuttleworth is a Knight of Garter and has worked for the Duke of Lancaster’s personal estate including property, assets, and wealth. Queen Elizabeth II is the Duchess of Lancaster. This is just one of her personal assets.

Sir John Mayor gets his Sir from being Knighted under the Order of the Garter and was former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom which is today held by Theresa May a member of the Fawcett Society with the Dame of the Crown’s British Empire Angela Mason as a top member. Prince Richard the Duke of Gloucester is a Windsor and Montagu and high level Knight of the Garter. Prince Richard’s son is Earl Alexander Windsor.

Foreign members of the Order of the Garter include King Juan Carlos of Spain, King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, King Harald V of Norway, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, and Emperor Akihito of Japan. They are members of the Order of the Garter because they covertly do business in London. [the current royals in UK are members of the order of the Garter).

And guess what ID2020 –Biometrically implanting every single person on the planet, the chips. Bill and Melinda Gates will fund it, showing that we have been vaccinated etc.

They are ALL part of the one world order group, and yet you are surprised that Kerry went to Iran.






[Edited on 5/12/2018 by gina]


BrerRabbit - 5/12/2018 at 10:46 PM

You forgot to post the link to Ahuwah Zeus, the wildeyed Muslimoid extremist website you copied and pasted from:

https://ahuwahzeus583992924.wordpress.com/2018/02/01/british-crown-agents/

btw, the Ivy League schools you mentioned are not "owned by the British Crown", that is pure bullsh*t. As for the who's who of Brit nobility and wealthy people, welcome to Planet Reptile.


[Edited on 5/12/2018 by BrerRabbit]


BrerRabbit - 5/13/2018 at 02:40 PM

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I have been the subject of their insults but when I shoot back they throw a temper tantrum


Typical bully mindset. You always claim self defense. Totally unaware that you are constantly on the attack, generating negative response.

It has zero to do with your opinions. That's just your persecution complex and your justification for abusive behavior. There are others who share your views here who are civil and don't start posts with "dumb@ss" or "idiot" or stoop to bullying belittlisms like "junior" and "son", and they get along just fine, even during conflict.

Face it. It's your personality. You are a classic self-isolating bully.


Bullies induce shame and humiliation in others by intuitively recognizing a person's insecurities and attacking them. The bully’s attacks are projections of their own shame and feelings of inadequacy that are modified to penetrate a victim’s vulnerability. Attacking others not only halts any inclination to look within themselves, it also can be exciting as it stimulates the physical experience of power.1 Although bullies diminish others in order to raise themselves up, they are not conscious of how negatively they feel about themselves. Diminishing others keeps their need to elevate themselves out of their conscious awareness.

Psychology Today https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/intense-emotions-and-strong-feeling s/201503/why-bullies-dont-feel-bad-or-dont-know-they-do



StratDal - 5/13/2018 at 06:18 PM

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Oh well, the fats stand as the truth.


hahahahaHA! Another WP classic.


Are they trans or saturated... they do have to "stand as the truth" after all...


BrerRabbit - 5/13/2018 at 10:04 PM

lol. Gotta steer clear of those saturated facts.


Muleman1994 - 5/14/2018 at 01:38 PM

The far-left extremists continue to run away from reality.

Obama and Kerry screwed the world and gave Iran a clear path to nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them while also giving Iran, the worlds leading sponsors of terror, billions of dollars to continue to kill.

President Trump is putting a stop to another bad Obama deal.


2112 - 5/14/2018 at 04:07 PM

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The far-left extremists continue to run away from reality.

Obama and Kerry screwed the world and gave Iran a clear path to nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them while also giving Iran, the worlds leading sponsors of terror, billions of dollars to continue to kill.

President Trump is putting a stop to another bad Obama deal.




You have no idea what you are talking about. Even Trump's experts on the subject advised him not to withdrawl from the agreement.


BoytonBrother - 5/14/2018 at 04:30 PM

I love how Mule tries to appear knowledgeable about Iran and North Korea, lol. Hittn the Note’s most reliable source of international law and foreign policy.


jkeller - 5/14/2018 at 05:12 PM

It was not a bad deal. While the US has pulled out of it, it is still in effect as both Iran and the other countries that signed it are staying in.

Negative effects include Saudi Arabia is now saying they will proceed with their own nuclear program to protect themselves from Iran, the price of oil is rising as Iran will now sell to other countries, and thus again hurting our economy. (MAGA! Trade wars are easy to win!).

Trump is threatening sanctions against countries that don't pull out of the deal. This is yet another threat that will hurt Americans and isolate this country even more. MAGA!!!

Meanwhile, Trump wants to Make China Great Again by helping out ZTE, a telecom company that the Pentagon has banned military personnel from owning and the DHS and CIA say is a threat to US security.


MAGA!!!!!


Muleman1994 - 5/15/2018 at 04:37 PM

Interesting that not one of the lefties here can state why The U.S. should have stayed a participant in the JCPOA also known as Obama giving Iran a clear path to nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.

Also known as the deal that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate refused to endorse it.



jkeller - 5/15/2018 at 06:47 PM

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Interesting that not one of the lefties here can state why The U.S. should have stayed a participant in the JCPOA also known as Obama giving Iran a clear path to nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.

Also known as the deal that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate refused to endorse it.





I gave you a few reasons. If you didn;t understand them, let me know and I will try to dumb them down for you.

BTW, when you answer questions, you can call others out for not answering. Other than that, remain quiet and you won't seem like such a hypocrite.


Muleman1994 - 5/16/2018 at 08:55 PM

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Interesting that not one of the lefties here can state why The U.S. should have stayed a participant in the JCPOA also known as Obama giving Iran a clear path to nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.

Also known as the deal that was so bad even the Democrats in the Senate refused to endorse it.





I gave you a few reasons. If you didn;t understand them, let me know and I will try to dumb them down for you.

BTW, when you answer questions, you can call others out for not answering. Other than that, remain quiet and you won't seem like such a hypocrite.



Saudi Arabia threatened to start their own nuclear program when Obama made the deal with the terrorist.

France and Germany are the only two other nations crying because they do business with Iran which helps to supports Iran's terrorism programs.

This very bad deal, with its unverifiable limits, was proven earlier in this thread exactly as it was when It was done by Obama the failure.

There is no reason the U.S. should have stayed in the deal.

If you need more see what the Democrats said in 2015 when they refused to allow it to be voted on in the U.S. Senate and openly roasted that POS Obama.




BrerRabbit - 5/17/2018 at 04:47 PM

T.R.U.M.P.
Totally Ridiculous Unqualified Moronic President.


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