Thread: Impeachment soon?

BrerRabbit - 4/13/2018 at 08:34 PM

Hearing a lot of rumbling from both sides of the aisle. I just hope the psycho-in-chief doesn't start WW3 before we can get rid of him. I don't care for Pence, but at least he is mentally normal.


dutchoneill - 4/13/2018 at 08:47 PM

I don't think its gonna happen. there is always grumbling from at least one side of the aisle but I get that all the embedded professional politicians don't like their little worlds upset.
Hey, in my mind he got rid of Paul Ryan so thats a good thing.


MartinD28 - 4/13/2018 at 08:52 PM

For the good of the country it can't happen soon enough. Not sure Repubs would have the balz to go against Trump, as they're afraid of his base; the same base that has not expanded and will not be big enough to prevent Blue Wave in November. Then we can have serious talks of impeachment unless Stormy takes him down sooner.

They used to talk about Trump becoming "unhinged". Looks like the temperature has gone up several degrees last two weeks, and look at Trump's reactions. What an unprofessional / paranoid pig we have in the White House. He's being hit from several angles, and all he does it threaten firing Republican appointees and firing off tweets. This is what we call leadership?


MartinD28 - 4/13/2018 at 09:01 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-hometown-newspaper-033442670.h tml

If the shoe fits...


pops42 - 4/13/2018 at 09:32 PM

Id say November.


2112 - 4/13/2018 at 11:18 PM

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Id say November.


Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.


MartinD28 - 4/14/2018 at 12:10 AM

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Id say November.


Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.


Don't you think the damage is already done? The electorate is a lot different than the GOP that owns the House & Senate as well as the way the RNC works. The country has seen enough of what the Trump Experiment is. That's why many of the elections held in the recent 6 months have seen the Dems pushing out Republicans. It portends what will happen this fall.

Trump is in a bad place. If he fires any more high ranking officials, he will be seen as attempting to cover his past actions & possibly seen as MORE obstruction. On the other hand, more & more will be made public of what he's done & is hiding. Watch Mr. Cohen squeal.

For those like Trump who say "no collusion" - we really haven't seen much of what Mueller has on Trump...YET. On the other hand, the obstruction is evident. Trump in his own words admitted / implied this in firing Comey. And it goes on & on.


2112 - 4/14/2018 at 01:38 AM

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Id say November.


Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.


Don't you think the damage is already done? The electorate is a lot different than the GOP that owns the House & Senate as well as the way the RNC works. The country has seen enough of what the Trump Experiment is. That's why many of the elections held in the recent 6 months have seen the Dems pushing out Republicans. It portends what will happen this fall.

Trump is in a bad place. If he fires any more high ranking officials, he will be seen as attempting to cover his past actions & possibly seen as MORE obstruction. On the other hand, more & more will be made public of what he's done & is hiding. Watch Mr. Cohen squeal.

For those like Trump who say "no collusion" - we really haven't seen much of what Mueller has on Trump...YET. On the other hand, the obstruction is evident. Trump in his own words admitted / implied this in firing Comey. And it goes on & on.


Yes and no. I'd say it's pretty clear that the Republicans have all but lost the swing voters. But keep in mind, Trump still has around a 40% approval rating, and near cult like loyalty among his fans. Just look around here. People like Goober, Mule, and Gina will be loyal to the end, and no matter what they believe anything anti-Trump is automatically fake news. There could be a tape of Trump giving Putin the nuclear codes, and they would still support him.


Chain - 4/14/2018 at 11:51 AM

I predict the Repubs will not impeach him. The only way we check Trump is by winning the House and the Senate. Even then there still will not be the 67 votes in the Senate required to impeach Little Donnie. However, a Democratic controlled Congress may be able to hamstring him somewhat until the 2020 presidential election whereupon he may lose.

The real problem for Trump lies in the fact that he cannot fire his way out of his legal troubles as even if the Mueller investigation completely crumbles, dies, ends, etc., the Mueller investigation has already led to multiple investigations signed off on by various federal judges, states attorney's general's, etc. that will not end with the demise of the Mueller investigation itself.

Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.


MartinD28 - 4/14/2018 at 01:24 PM

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Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.


The sad thing is that his "fixer", Mr. Cohen has now been fixed / neutered. Trump's personal issues prior to being elected will probably be exposed or validated. That leaves all of the non-personal issues. All the firings, tweets, and backing by state run TV (FOX) can only do but so much to limit his exposure and to run propaganda. We do have a legal system in this country, and the FBI is not there to promise loyalty and protect Trump in his illegalities.


Chain - 4/14/2018 at 03:43 PM

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Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.


The sad thing is that his "fixer", Mr. Cohen has now been fixed / neutered. Trump's personal issues prior to being elected will probably be exposed or validated. That leaves all of the non-personal issues. All the firings, tweets, and backing by state run TV (FOX) can only do but so much to limit his exposure and to run propaganda. We do have a legal system in this country, and the FBI is not there to promise loyalty and protect Trump in his illegalities.


I agree....Many of the ongoing state and other federal investigations beyond Mueller's most likely would never have happened had Trump never fired Comey. I think the brilliance of Mueller and his "all star" team is that in fact they knew the actual special counsel investigation may be relatively benign in the end, (in fact, we never even hear the actual report as the Deputy Director of the FBI does not have to legally release it to the public, only to Congress) but by legally passing along other illegal Trump behavior via federal judges, state attorney's, etc., they've assured that perhaps Trump and his collaborators will be accountable on some level at some point in the future.

I think of particular note is just how thorough these referrals are being done to the letter of the law. The meticulousness with which they're securing search warrants, getting approvals by federal and state judges, sign offs by officials in the FBI, etc. speaks volumes as to how, in the end, their hoping to indite and potentially prosecute Trump. Maybe not while he's in office, but maybe someday.


Muleman1994 - 4/14/2018 at 03:52 PM

Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.


BrerRabbit - 4/14/2018 at 04:08 PM

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. . . the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.


Exactly correct.


Chain - 4/14/2018 at 05:05 PM

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Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.




A slow day at the St. Petersburg office today, Bot Boy? We're well beyond simple collusion, son, and onto past Trump illegal behavior. Your boys big mouth and incompetence has opened the floods gates and allowed the feds and state prosecutors to legally shine the light on decades of Trump illegal behavior. Try and keep up, little Bot Boy...


gina - 4/14/2018 at 06:34 PM

https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/49527-this-might-be-the-cha rge-that-leads-to-trumps-impeachment

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

14 April 18

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is preparing a report on Trump's repeated attempts to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation, according to NBC News. Mueller is reportedly focused on:

1) The firing of former FBI Director James Comey. Last May, Trump fired Comey after demanding loyalty and urging him to drop the investigation into former national security advisor Michael Flynn.

2) Reports that Trump dangled the possibility of presidential pardons to former aides who might otherwise incriminate him to avoid conviction. Last summer Trump's lawyers secretly floated the idea of presidential pardons for Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn as Mueller prepared to bring charges against them, according to the New York Times.

3) Misleading statements about Don Jr. and Jared Kushner's meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton. Trump reportedly helped draft a deliberately misleading statement about the meeting.

4) Trump's attempts to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself in the Russia investigation. Trump reportedly told White House chief counsel Don McGahn that he needed Sessions "to protect him" from the investigation.

The federal crime of obstruction of justice applies to “[w]hoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law” in a proceeding or investigation by a government department or agency or Congress. This might very well be the charge that ultimately leads to Trump's impeachment. What do you think?"



Muleman1994 - 4/14/2018 at 09:02 PM

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Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.




A slow day at the St. Petersburg office today, Bot Boy? We're well beyond simple collusion, son, and onto past Trump illegal behavior. Your boys big mouth and incompetence has opened the floods gates and allowed the feds and state prosecutors to legally shine the light on decades of Trump illegal behavior. Try and keep up, little Bot Boy...



Cute regurgitation of the far-left's talking points.

- collusion" is not a crime.
- you claim "decades of Trump illegal behavior" but cite not one actual crime.

The actual crimes were perpetrated by the Obama administration which are being investigated now.


BrerRabbit - 4/14/2018 at 10:50 PM

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?


Muleman1994 - 4/14/2018 at 10:59 PM

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.


2112 - 4/14/2018 at 11:19 PM

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.




You sure seem to know a lot about what Mueller has and hasn't found. How is that? There seems to be very few leaks from the Mueller probe. I'm wondering where you are getting all your inside information. Trump seems very worried about the investigation. You should send him an a email reassuring him that he has nothing to worry about based on all your inside knowledge.


2112 - 4/14/2018 at 11:33 PM

I also love the Trump propaganda machine movin of the goalpost. Shall we review:

Russia never meddled in the election.

Ok, maybe Russia did meddle in the election, but nobody in the Trump campaign had any contact with the Russians.

Ok, maybe some people in the Trump campaign did meet with Russians, but it only had to do with orphans.

Ok, maybe when some people in the Trump campaign met with Russians, there were discussions on the having dirt on Hillary, but that's not collusion.

And now we have - collusion isn't a crime.

Yup, Trump and his associates are sure patriots. Some thought Benedict Arnold was a great patriot too. What's wrong with a little collusion?


BrerRabbit - 4/14/2018 at 11:35 PM

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collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.


Got it, thx. What you are telling us is: there was no collusion, but if there were it would be okay, because collusion is not a crime.

So you would be fine with Trump colluding with Russia, even though in your view, it did not occur.
Since it is not a crime, and "intent is irrelevant".



MartinD28 - 4/14/2018 at 11:39 PM

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.




You sure seem to know a lot about what Mueller has and hasn't found. How is that? There seems to be very few leaks from the Mueller probe. I'm wondering where you are getting all your inside information. Trump seems very worried about the investigation. You should send him an a email reassuring him that he has nothing to worry about based on all your inside knowledge.


X2

You are correct. Mueller has kept things exceptionally tight. For Trump to constantly repeat "no collusion" is almost as if he knows he is guilty & an attempt to reassure himself and his base that he's not. Regardless of what State Run TV repeats and what trolls run with, when Mueller shows his hand or produces a report is when everyone will find out what Mueller concludes. Until then, for anyone to claim no collusion is naive and dogmatic.

The more evident case seems to be obstruction based upon Trump's own words to Lester Holt for firing Comey, his involvement in drafting of a lie on AF1 to cover the Russian meeting at Trump Tower, etc.

Patience is a virtue, and in time many things will come to light. If Trump is innocent in so many aspects of his personal life, professional life, & campaign, he surely acts like someone laced with guilt. If he is so innocent, he should let all actions run to conclusion and prove he is innocent as opposed to firing and threatening to fire his own appointees as well as lifetime GOP professionals.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 12:53 AM

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collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.


Got it, thx. What you are telling us is: there was no collusion, but if there were it would be okay, because collusion is not a crime.

So you would be fine with Trump colluding with Russia, even though in your view, it did not occur.
Since it is not a crime, and "intent is irrelevant".






"but if there were it would be okay"

"if", if", "if"...

Your circular logic fails again.



BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 01:08 AM

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Your circular logic fails again.


Ok, thx, I will just assume that by pointing out my logical failure, rather than clarifying your defense of the legality of collusion, that you actually feel that if there were any merit to the story of Trump's collusion with Russia, that collusion, while certainly not a crime in and of itself is unsavory at best, and likely a criminal conspiracy at worst.

I can respect that.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 02:02 AM

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Your circular logic fails again.


Ok, thx, I will just assume that by pointing out my logical failure, rather than clarifying your defense of the legality of collusion, that you actually feel that if there were any merit to the story of Trump's collusion with Russia, that collusion, while certainly not a crime in and of itself is unsavory at best, and likely a criminal conspiracy at worst.

I can respect that.




Don't think for a minute that any "collusion" occurred.

It has been fun to watch the left twist collusion into a crime but you will notice that they never name the crime.



BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 02:17 AM

You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


2112 - 4/15/2018 at 04:57 AM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 02:08 PM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.



Not my book son, collusion is not a crime in U.S. Law.


jkeller - 4/15/2018 at 02:22 PM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.



Not my book son, collusion is not a crime in U.S. Law.




Manafort was charged with conspiracy against the US. The Trump investigation is centered on that, illegal campaign contributions, money laundering and obstruction of justice. Keep yelling “no collusion” as it means nothing.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 03:09 PM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.



Not my book son, collusion is not a crime in U.S. Law.




Manafort was charged with conspiracy against the US. The Trump investigation is centered on that, illegal campaign contributions, money laundering and obstruction of justice. Keep yelling “no collusion” as it means nothing.



You are so owned by the corrupt liberal media. Are you simply unable to think for yourself?

It means everything.

Nothing Manafort is being persecuted for occurred during Donald Trump's campaign or Presidency.


jkeller - 4/15/2018 at 04:38 PM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.



Not my book son, collusion is not a crime in U.S. Law.




Manafort was charged with conspiracy against the US. The Trump investigation is centered on that, illegal campaign contributions, money laundering and obstruction of justice. Keep yelling “no collusion” as it means nothing.



You are so owned by the corrupt liberal media. Are you simply unable to think for yourself?

It means everything.

Nothing Manafort is being persecuted for occurred during Donald Trump's campaign or Presidency.




You should read the indictment. Start with paragraph 14.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015f-6d73-d751-af7f-7f735cc70000


And how much vetting did Trump do before he hired Manafort and Gates? For a guy who only hires the "best people" he sure has a ;lot of friends under investigation and/or indictments.


MartinD28 - 4/15/2018 at 04:48 PM

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You obviously feel that collusion with Russia is bad, why else would you defend Trump against the charge?

Then you downplay collusion with Russia as a legit activity.

You are playing both sides of the question.


If collusion isn't illegal in your book, why don't we use the word conspiracy then. Conspiracy is certainly illegal, and in this case is the same thing.



Not my book son, collusion is not a crime in U.S. Law.




Manafort was charged with conspiracy against the US. The Trump investigation is centered on that, illegal campaign contributions, money laundering and obstruction of justice. Keep yelling “no collusion” as it means nothing.



You are so owned by the corrupt liberal media. Are you simply unable to think for yourself?

It means everything.

Nothing Manafort is being persecuted for occurred during Donald Trump's campaign or Presidency.




You should read the indictment. Start with paragraph 14.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015f-6d73-d751-af7f-7f735cc70000


And how much vetting did Trump do before he hired Manafort and Gates? For a guy who only hires the "best people" he sure has a ;lot of friends under investigation and/or indictments.


Nothing but the brightest and best, right?

And a hell of a lot of turnover (records) in a slightly over a year. This also doesn't include swamp dwellers who are abusing the taxpayers $ - prime example is Scott Pruitt. This is just standard operating procedure under President Emoluments. Hey, if you can make money off of the gov't while occupying the White House, go for it. His worshipers seem to give him a pass on this.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 05:13 PM

With the complete failure of the left to produce anything that supports their false "collusion" narrative they throw out anything they hope will stick.


Not one crime documented, evidenced or witnessed.


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 09:26 PM

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With the complete failure of the left to produce anything that supports their false "collusion" narrative they throw out anything they hope will stick.

Not one crime documented, evidenced or witnessed


What do you care? You think collusion with Russia is not a crime so you are good with it whether it happened or not. Who cares what your precious "lefties" think? You gotta own it , man, stop worrying so much about "The Left". It's literally ALL you think about. Left this left that left son left stupid left junior left left left.... you are insane, for real.

"Trump Overassociatve Adoptive Sensory Transference Ego Disorder" TOASTED, a new one for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The afflicted identify so completely with their object that they think they are the object, with a total breakdown of the individual personality.





[Edited on 4/15/2018 by BrerRabbit]


cyclone88 - 4/16/2018 at 12:21 AM

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If Trump is innocent in so many aspects of his personal life, professional life, & campaign, he surely acts like someone laced with guilt.


Guilt is a concept with which DT is completely unfamiliar. He acts out of self-interest.


2112 - 4/16/2018 at 01:04 AM

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With the complete failure of the left to produce anything that supports their false "collusion" narrative they throw out anything they hope will stick.


Not one crime documented, evidenced or witnessed.




You keep talking about the left, but the "left" has nothing to do with this investigation. It is being run by a Republican, who was appointed by a Republican, who was appointed by Trump.

And again, I'd love to hear where you get your inside information, because very little seems to have been leaked. For someone who thinks they know all the answers, you sure must have spent a lot of time in Mueller's office looking through files.


nebish - 4/16/2018 at 01:05 PM

I'm not advocating for impeachment, but do wonder how we get through 2+ more years.

Policy wise I don't have too many issues. Conduct, recklessness, lack of worldly knowledge, lying, lack of transparency (and press conferences), etc...that is where the problems come in for me. Does it fall into "unfit", maybe. A case could be made, but not sure just being an idiot more often than not makes the President unfit. Obviously some will say it does. I wish he wasn't an idiot, but really what makes a difference to me are legal issues.

The Mueller report will tell me alot. Investigations, legal rulings, those are the things that become cut and dry and would influence more of my own opinion on where we go from here.

The fact is that knowing more details about our President's life and history is never a bad thing and every potential conflict, compromised interest, influences, financial funding and ties, all that is out there should be on the table for all to see. Normally you'd prefer it to be vetted before an election. Never-the-less, that is still no reason to stop digging now.

Affairs and violations of election finance law with hush money payments aren't going to sway me. The things that matter are if the President's legitimacy and loyalty is compromised by a foreign nation. Or if he has obstructed justice, which might appear clear, but even Comey said last night in the ABC interview simply "possibly" on committing obstruction in reference to Flynn. What else matters? Just stop being an ass, but he is an ass so that isn't going to stop. And just continually being an ass is a big enough deal that it wears on you, wears you down, swing voters, supporters, even appointees of the President - there is a high burnout factor with that kind of conduct. Still plenty of people say they love this President. But I believe there are many many more who do not.

So we'll see. The Mueller report is very important. If the President fires Mueller, then I will join in. Impeach. Because while it is highly highly suspicious that Trump is hiding something now. Firing Mueller will all but confirm it. There would be no other reason to fire Mueller other than to keep some secrets from getting out. We have a right to know any potential secrets and how those reflect on the President and let him be judged on those findings and facts.


BrerRabbit - 4/16/2018 at 03:32 PM

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I'm not advocating for impeachment


I am. ASAP.


BoytonBrother - 4/16/2018 at 03:53 PM

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Not one crime documented, evidenced or witnessed.


How does Mule get access to the investigation documents? I wish I had his intellect and connections to know these things.


lukester420 - 4/17/2018 at 08:18 AM

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With the complete failure of the left to produce anything that supports their false "collusion" narrative they throw out anything they hope will stick.


Not one crime documented, evidenced or witnessed.




Hahaha, why is most of it sticking then? Your complete lack of logic fails you again son


allmanned - 4/17/2018 at 03:12 PM

ONLY A NUT JOB WOULD DEFEND THIS HUMAN SLIME.


BrerRabbit - 4/17/2018 at 05:25 PM

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ONLY A NUT JOB WOULD DEFEND THIS HUMAN SLIME.


I agree - this is actually a technically correct assessment. This is no longer politics but mass psychosis.


BoytonBrother - 4/17/2018 at 07:36 PM

Let’s not forget that KCJimmy and BIGV both gave sincere statements that the right voted for all of this tabloid garbage as payback against liberals. They would rather put the U.S. through this turmoil just to see liberals get upset. Think about that. They have no problem hurting this country ON PURPOSE, just to seek revenge. This isn’t my opinion. It’s what KC and BIGV explained to me. It’s all here in writing. Regardless of whether Obama is good or bad for the country, the left didn’t dysfunctionally vote for him out of spite. To intentionally harm the country for any reason is pretty pathetic.


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