Thread: FBI Raids Michael Cohen's Office

goldtop - 4/9/2018 at 08:34 PM

Discuss....

Oh this should be fun!!


2112 - 4/9/2018 at 09:51 PM

It must be Obamaís fault.


MartinD28 - 4/9/2018 at 09:58 PM

The corrupt liberal media will have a field day with this. Better tune into Hannity to get the "truth" and get the high low on Trump wanting to fire Mueller & Rosenstein.


goldtop - 4/9/2018 at 10:00 PM

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It must be Obamaís fault.


Clearly

I think they were looking for Obama's birth certificate Cohen and Trump was able to obtain from a distant planet


goldtop - 4/9/2018 at 10:01 PM

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The corrupt liberal media will have a field day with this. Better tune into Hannity to get the "truth" and get the high low on Trump wanting to fire Mueller & Rosenstein.


Yes...FOX the most trusted news organization in the UK and Canada...so valuable it can't be seen on TV...


2112 - 4/9/2018 at 10:20 PM

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The corrupt liberal media will have a field day with this. Better tune into Hannity to get the "truth" and get the high low on Trump wanting to fire Mueller & Rosenstein.


Damn those corrupt Republicans. Can't trust any of them. You can only trust Trump and his lawyers. All other Republicans are in on Obamaís sinister plan, which is now apparently under investigation and we should expect indictments soon, according to one of our frequent posters with inside information.


MartinD28 - 4/9/2018 at 10:44 PM

Just saw our great leader say that this is an attack on our country. Tillerson got it right - Trump is a moron. This is no attack on our country. This is going where the facts lead REPUBLICAN Mueller & his team. Sorry for Trump that Trump might not like the facts and would rather spread his usual bluster and fake news. One can only hope the system will rid us of Trump sooner rather than later. The wagons are circling.


gina - 4/9/2018 at 10:51 PM

They went in there like Yosemite Sam, they raided his NYC Attorney Office, his home, AND the hotel where he has been staying due to the media circus. The hotel was mentioned in the news media I will not repeat it because I think that is just low down, but after he sees that was raided, he will probably move on to other accomodations.

He is an attorney, if they wanted his records, they should have just went with their warrants, allowed him to turn over whatever was in the warrant, and been professional and civilized about it. He is not a fugitive.

Why does he get treated like this, while Anthony Weiner's computer got scrubbed by the FBI to erase any damaging evidence?

It's so bad even Stormy Daniels Lawyer, feels badly for Mr. Cohen.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/michael-cohen-raid-stormy-da niels-w518927







[Edited on 4/9/2018 by gina]


cyclone88 - 4/9/2018 at 11:24 PM

Goldtop is on to something - Cohen has Obama's birth certificate.


gina - 4/9/2018 at 11:31 PM

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I reckon most reactions to this glorious event won't come until after FoxNews has had enough time to give the sheep a good explanation.

Of course you know it will boil down to conspiracy, corruption, swamps, deep states, and all sorts of other conservative fiction. I'm sure Obama has something to do with it too.

Trump is a chump.



They don't even care about the infidelity, the thing they want to push is the 'influencing the outcome of the election' by the alleged cover up and financial deal involved. That is what they want to use as the basis for impeachment. And for people to go to that extreme well that does look like a set up. Most people think he is guilty, he had sex with her, and had the lawyer try to pay her off to keep quiet, but even if that were the case, what does it have to do with campaign finance and the outcome of the presidential election? I saw the interview on 60 minutes that Stormy did with Anderson Cooper and part of the show took the time to explain some of the legal stuff involved. it just boggles the mind.


MartinD28 - 4/9/2018 at 11:36 PM

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Goldtop is on to something - Cohen has Obama's birth certificate.


Possibly found initially by Geraldo Rivera on the opening of a secret vault once owned by noted crime lord Al Capone. Geraldo then gave to Trump to use as needed against Obama to dispel conspiracy theories. Eventually found its way to Cohen (the fixer) for safe keeping.


OriginalGoober - 4/9/2018 at 11:59 PM



this is all about uncovering some dirt about a kiss and tell sword-swallowing porn star. its ken star redux.


MartinD28 - 4/10/2018 at 12:11 AM

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this is all about uncovering some dirt about a kiss and tell sword-swallowing porn star. its ken star redux.



goob, you sound like a jilted lover. You still have Hillary.

Possible illegal campaign contribution is = sword swallowing porn star? There may be roads they are exploring beyond Trump's lover & the $130,000, but you probably think they're just fake issues? See what Sean has to say tonight and then report back.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 12:13 AM

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I reckon most reactions to this glorious event won't come until after FoxNews has had enough time to give the sheep a good explanation.

Of course you know it will boil down to conspiracy, corruption, swamps, deep states, and all sorts of other conservative fiction. I'm sure Obama has something to do with it too.

Trump is a chump.



They don't even care about the infidelity, the thing they want to push is the 'influencing the outcome of the election' by the alleged cover up and financial deal involved. That is what they want to use as the basis for impeachment. And for people to go to that extreme well that does look like a set up. Most people think he is guilty, he had sex with her, and had the lawyer try to pay her off to keep quiet, but even if that were the case, what does it have to do with campaign finance and the outcome of the presidential election? I saw the interview on 60 minutes that Stormy did with Anderson Cooper and part of the show took the time to explain some of the legal stuff involved. it just boggles the mind.


Easy, if Cohen paid $130,000 of his own money to keep her quiet (because he thinks had she talked before the election, it may have cost Trump some votes), that can be interpreted as an illegal campaign contribution.

This isn't brain surgery here. They've been talking about this for months.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 12:13 AM

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I reckon most reactions to this glorious event won't come until after FoxNews has had enough time to give the sheep a good explanation.

Of course you know it will boil down to conspiracy, corruption, swamps, deep states, and all sorts of other conservative fiction. I'm sure Obama has something to do with it too.

Trump is a chump.



They don't even care about the infidelity, the thing they want to push is the 'influencing the outcome of the election' by the alleged cover up and financial deal involved. That is what they want to use as the basis for impeachment. And for people to go to that extreme well that does look like a set up. Most people think he is guilty, he had sex with her, and had the lawyer try to pay her off to keep quiet, but even if that were the case, what does it have to do with campaign finance and the outcome of the presidential election? I saw the interview on 60 minutes that Stormy did with Anderson Cooper and part of the show took the time to explain some of the legal stuff involved. it just boggles the mind.


Easy, if Cohen paid $130,000 of his own money to keep her quiet (because he thinks had she talked before the election, it may have cost Trump some votes), that can be interpreted as an illegal campaign contribution.

This isn't brain surgery here. They've been talking about this for months.


OriginalGoober - 4/10/2018 at 12:14 AM


Stormy Monday?

Who should President Trump call when investigators want to review Crooked Hillary documents or look at the hacked server? The FBI? Obviously No, who then?

[Edited on 4/10/2018 by OriginalGoober]


Sang - 4/10/2018 at 12:46 AM

Since Hillary has been investigated about 100 times, why do you even care anymore? Talk about whataboutism to the max...... trying talking about our current (for now) president.......


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 12:52 AM

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Stormy Monday?

Who should President Trump call when investigators want to review Crooked Hillary documents or look at the hacked server? The FBI? Obviously No, who then?

[Edited on 4/10/2018 by OriginalGoober]


Why obviously no to the FBI? If there is probable cause for an investigation, he can certainly ask the Sessions to open an FBI investigation. But that was already done. Why are the Republicans obsessed with reopening investigations over and over again until they get their desired outcome? Didn't you learn anything from Benghazi? Isn't doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome one of the definitions of insanity?


Sang - 4/10/2018 at 12:57 AM

But Faux News told them it still needed to be investigated - and Uranium One, emails, blah, blah blah. Meanwhile, Trump is using a private email server - why aren't there calls to investigate that?


cyclone88 - 4/10/2018 at 01:17 AM

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Goldtop is on to something - Cohen has Obama's birth certificate.


Possibly found initially by Geraldo Rivera on the opening of a secret vault once owned by noted crime lord Al Capone. Geraldo then gave to Trump to use as needed against Obama to dispel conspiracy theories. Eventually found its way to Cohen (the fixer) for safe keeping.


But wait. Cohen may have been too sharp. Maybe he passed it on to Ted Nugent. What if the search turns up...empty?


goldtop - 4/10/2018 at 01:18 AM

DT has been a criminal for decades....his problem, he wanted to be in the public eye...he wanted to make his own rules and that worked in the private sector because he had enough fixers to do what he wanted.

He and his family have also never had to tell the truth. They had enough money to do and say what they wanted because it didn't matter if it was the truth or not it wasn't going to effect the way they live....Now when they have to tell the truth they don't have the skills....

I still sit and wonder what anyone saw in him. There were many qualified people on the right to be president and they were overlooked for a carnival barker that never in 70 years of his life ever lifted a finger for anyone he wasn't going to get something back from. So how the idiot parade of voters got to the conclusion he was the "man" is way beyond my scope of reality

By the way...the Judge that issued the warrant was appointed by Trump.....and was interviewed by Trump before he gave him the appointment....

I'm sure he regrets that appointment....no loyalty...except for the rule of law....But he didn't see that coming...


BoytonBrother - 4/10/2018 at 01:22 AM

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Who should President Trump call when investigators want to review Crooked Hillary documents or look at the hacked server? The FBI? Obviously No, who then?


Playing victim, how pathetic. Somehow the other presidents managed.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 01:24 AM

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DT has been a criminal for decades....his problem, he wanted to be in the public eye...he wanted to make his own rules and that worked in the private sector because he had enough fixers to do what he wanted.

He and his family have also never had to tell the truth. They had enough money to do and say what they wanted because it didn't matter if it was the truth or not it wasn't going to effect the way they live....Now when they have to tell the truth they don't have the skills....

I still sit and wonder what anyone saw in him. There were many qualified people on the right to be president and they were overlooked for a carnival barker that never in 70 years of his life ever lifted a finger for anyone he wasn't going to get something back from. So how the idiot parade of voters got to the conclusion he was the "man" is way beyond my scope of reality

By the way...the Judge that issued the warrant was appointed by Trump.....and was interviewed by Trump before he gave him the appointment....

I'm sure he regrets that appointment....no loyalty...except for the rule of law....But he didn't see that coming...




Why bother being president if you and your friends and family can't be above the rule of law?


BoytonBrother - 4/10/2018 at 01:51 AM

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this is all about uncovering some dirt about a kiss and tell sword-swallowing porn star. its ken star redux


You canít be serious. You think they raided multiple locations and seized his property over the Stormy Daniels story? The story where he admitted everything? The one where they have the contract and her testimony and his admission? Yeah, better get those laptops to get to the bottom of this one.


PhotoRon286 - 4/10/2018 at 01:59 AM

I see gina is still batsh!t crazy in her defense of orange twitler.

I correct micelf.









I see gina is still batsh!t crazy.


PhotoRon286 - 4/10/2018 at 02:01 AM

Somehow I don't see her two heroes, trump and osama, as ever getting along.

Unless trump got the go-ahead for the trump Tora-Bora Tower.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 02:10 AM

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Somehow I don't see her two heroes, trump and osama, as ever getting along.

Unless trump got the go-ahead for the trump Tora-Bora Tower.


It's unfortunate that the one who isn't considered the terrorist is damaging the USA far more than the terrorist ever did.


cyclone88 - 4/10/2018 at 02:28 AM

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DT has been a criminal for decades....his problem, he wanted to be in the public eye...he wanted to make his own rules and that worked in the private sector because he had enough fixers to do what he wanted.

He and his family have also never had to tell the truth. They had enough money to do and say what they wanted because it didn't matter if it was the truth or not it wasn't going to effect the way they live....Now when they have to tell the truth they don't have the skills....


A succinctly accurate assessment of DT's character and its influence on his children. He's not alone - especially among real estate developers in NYC (a small fraternity long associated w/the mafia) - but he's the only one to think he could cross from the private to public sector w/o changing his MO.


nebish - 4/10/2018 at 12:24 PM

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quote:Somehow I don't see her two heroes, trump and osama, as ever getting along.

Unless trump got the go-ahead for the trump Tora-Bora Tower.



It's unfortunate that the one who isn't considered the terrorist is damaging the USA far more than the terrorist ever did.


That is bold.


nebish - 4/10/2018 at 12:27 PM

Not that I want any President or Administration to find themselves in legal trouble, they will reap what they sow. I just hope that the crime rises to the level of the action yesterday in order to justify such a stunning event. Pretty unprecedented raid, but we are living in unprecedented times that is for sure.


MartinD28 - 4/10/2018 at 04:09 PM

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Not that I want any President or Administration to find themselves in legal trouble, they will reap what they sow. I just hope that the crime rises to the level of the action yesterday in order to justify such a stunning event. Pretty unprecedented raid, but we are living in unprecedented times that is for sure.

Unprecedented and unpresidential. But completely justified and carried out by Trump's own appointees.

It was only a couple weeks ago folks were saying how insignificant this Stormy thing was. Did anyone imagine it possibly leading to Cohen fully cooperating on the Mueller investigation?

Wait and see.


President Donald Trump slammed the FBI raid on his personal attorney Michael Cohen's office and hotel room as a "disgraceful situation" and "an attack on our country."

Yet he has never said Putin's actions in our election that helped put Trump into the WH were an attack on our country.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 04:26 PM

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quote:Somehow I don't see her two heroes, trump and osama, as ever getting along.

Unless trump got the go-ahead for the trump Tora-Bora Tower.



It's unfortunate that the one who isn't considered the terrorist is damaging the USA far more than the terrorist ever did.


That is bold.


I believe it to be true. Every day Trump's appointee Scott Pruitt is in office he works to set back environmental protections by decades. Trump's attacks on the FBI, all for an attempt at personal gain, have caused a portion of American people to lose confidence in what is an excellent and hard working agency. His tax plan is going to drive up the deficit, which has been decreasing for years, and was an important issue among conservatives not that long ago. Millions are losing health insurance due to his policies. And you could say I have no confidence that this trade war with China is going to help American workers. And our lack of response to the Russian cyber attacks is possibly the biggest threat to American democracy in history. More subtle perhaps, but a greater threat the the USA than a couple planes flying into a building or some Mexicans coming to the US to find a job.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 04:33 PM

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Not that I want any President or Administration to find themselves in legal trouble, they will reap what they sow. I just hope that the crime rises to the level of the action yesterday in order to justify such a stunning event. Pretty unprecedented raid, but we are living in unprecedented times that is for sure.

Unprecedented and unpresidential. But completely justified and carried out by Trump's own appointees.

It was only a couple weeks ago folks were saying how insignificant this Stormy thing was. Did anyone imagine it possibly leading to Cohen fully cooperating on the Mueller investigation?

Wait and see.


Cohen won't cooperate with Mueller. Not even sure client-attorney confidentiality allows for that. This doesn't seem to be related to the Mueller investigation anyway. It's a completely separate investigation.


goldtop - 4/10/2018 at 05:20 PM

Trump told reporters, on AF1, last week he knew nothing about the NDA or the payment...that they needed to ask Michael Cohen...Big Mistake on the "genius"...He threw Michael Cohen under the bus to save his azz

So I guess Mueller suggested to Rosenstein that the FBI might want to look into this. Since "Little Donny Traitor Wannabe Dictator" told them to go ask. Rosenstein sent it to the SDNY who then, by the direction of a prosecutor appointed and interview by Trump, ordered the warrant and a judge gave the OK....It isn't Mueller's team investigating this but I think they're betting it'll all tie in at some point


cyclone88 - 4/10/2018 at 06:09 PM

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Cohen won't cooperate with Mueller. Not even sure client-attorney confidentiality allows for that. This doesn't seem to be related to the Mueller investigation anyway. It's a completely separate investigation.


This IS a separate investigation.

Further, the EXCEPTION to client-attorney privilege is if the attorney is furthering criminal activities. He's no longer acting as a lawyer, but as an accomplice/co-conspirator.


gina - 4/10/2018 at 07:17 PM

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Not that I want any President or Administration to find themselves in legal trouble, they will reap what they sow. I just hope that the crime rises to the level of the action yesterday in order to justify such a stunning event. Pretty unprecedented raid, but we are living in unprecedented times that is for sure.

Unprecedented and unpresidential. But completely justified and carried out by Trump's own appointees.

It was only a couple weeks ago folks were saying how insignificant this Stormy thing was. Did anyone imagine it possibly leading to Cohen fully cooperating on the Mueller investigation?

Wait and see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr-iGxbALnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafY6sZt0FE

Maybe Mr. Cohen needs to "be hiding out in a rock and roll band..."


gina - 4/10/2018 at 07:19 PM

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Cohen won't cooperate with Mueller. Not even sure client-attorney confidentiality allows for that. This doesn't seem to be related to the Mueller investigation anyway. It's a completely separate investigation.


This IS a separate investigation.

Further, the EXCEPTION to client-attorney privilege is if the attorney is furthering criminal activities. He's no longer acting as a lawyer, but as an accomplice/co-conspirator.




Maybe it's time to call for back up.

http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/


Chain - 4/10/2018 at 09:52 PM

I give Leaf this year's prize for best pic post in the Whipping Post.....Funniest three photo's ever.

Whatever happens with the Mueller case, I take some satisfaction in the fact that Trump's little fixer may be headed to prison for multiple decades and will certainly never practice law in New York ever again.

As mentioned previous, this raid goes far beyond the Stromy Daniels issue. Rather, it goes directly to Trump's business dealings with not only Russians but other unsavory parties who he's long done business with directly through Cohen.

Trump and Cohen brought this chapter on themselves as they simply don't know when to shut up and gave much of the case to the FBI on a silver platter. It's why the third photo in Leaf's pictorial is so appropriate. In other words, Hil and Bam are laughing because Little Donnie proves time and time again what a buffoon he is.....


OriginalGoober - 4/10/2018 at 10:40 PM

So its clear Chain needs to get out more if he thinks that the previous meme is internet gold. Wowwweee....

On a side note, the "Buffoon" somehow has the full force and weight of the US government in his shorts for well over a year and nothing has been uncovered. Remember, his offices were sanctioned by Obama to be bugged and still no evidence of any crimes.


2112 - 4/10/2018 at 11:00 PM

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So its clear Chain needs to get out more if he thinks that the previous meme is internet gold. Wowwweee....

On a side note, the "Buffoon" somehow has the full force and weight of the US government in his shorts for well over a year and nothing has been uncovered. Remember, his offices were sanctioned by Obama to be bugged and still no evidence of any crimes.


There have been 19 indictments or guilty pleas so far. How exactly is that nothing?


PhotoRon286 - 4/10/2018 at 11:29 PM

https://www.politico.com/tipsheets/politico-influence/2017/04/squire-patton -boggs-teams-up-with-cohen-219593

Law firm works for Cambridge Analytica and are the main lobbyist for Gazprom, the russian oil company.

I'm sure it's purely coincidental.


PhotoRon286 - 4/10/2018 at 11:33 PM

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The corrupt liberal media will have a field day with this. Better tune into Hannity to get the "truth" and get the high low on Trump wanting to fire Mueller & Rosenstein.


tucker carlson ran a feature on Panda sex.

Everyone else was talking about the search.

Contrary to gina's fantasy about the FBI "going in like Yosemite Sam", cohen told Don Lemon in an interview the FBI were very polite.


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dutchoneill - 4/10/2018 at 11:40 PM

they will probably try and nail Cohen for bank fraud or something but nothing else will stick, in the meantime while everyone is focused on this shiny object the wall is starting to be built.

Its a all theater.


2112 - 4/11/2018 at 12:01 AM

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they will probably try and nail Cohen for bank fraud or something but nothing else will stick, in the meantime while everyone is focused on this shiny object the wall is starting to be built.

Its a all theater.


Cool, I didn't know that Mexico even sent a check.

In fact, I haven't even heard about a wall being constructed. Only a fence, the thing that Trump said was not a substitute for a wall. Where can I read all about the beginning of the construction of the wall?


PhotoRon286 - 4/11/2018 at 12:32 AM

Yosemite Sam???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-cohen-to-cnn-fbi-was-profes sional-courteous-respectful-in-raids-counter-to-trumps-depiction/ar-AAvJlay ?ocid=sf

gina's wrong.

Again.


Wott a joke.


adhill58 - 4/11/2018 at 01:08 AM

You cannot claim attorney-client privilege concerning an agreement (with Stormy Daniels) of which you have no knowledge. If you do not consent to what your lawyer is doing, he is just some guy signing papers.

Trump cannot have it both ways.


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2018 at 03:41 PM

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the "Buffoon" somehow has the full force and weight of the US government in his shorts for well over a year and nothing has been uncovered.


Exactly. The arrests, indictments, expulsions, and sanctions are about something else.


OriginalGoober - 4/11/2018 at 03:55 PM

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https://www.politico.com/tipsheets/politico-influence/2017/04/squire- patton-boggs-teams-up-with-cohen-219593

Law firm works for Cambridge Analytica and are the main lobbyist for Gazprom, the russian oil company.

I'm sure it's purely coincidental.



Nowhere in the story is this even written on the link. FAKE news-ski! Are the low-infos buying this stuff?


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2018 at 05:37 PM

Low infos are the ones who canít connect the Mueller investigation with the indictments and charges.


goldtop - 4/11/2018 at 06:36 PM

It seems people want Mueller to expose what he knows. He's building his case just as he did with John Gotti and Enron....To scream there was no collusion without him finishing his investigation is ignorance. He also hasn't exposed money laundering, Obstruction of Justice, Treason or any other crimes....Yet...except to those who are now cooperating

The raid on Cohen was instructed by Trump himself when he told the reporters that if anyone wanted info on the NDA or payment they needed to go talk to Cohen...so the FBI took him up on the statement...

Look at all the GOP people bailing....they don't want to impeach Trump so they are stepping aside to allow the democrats to do it after the Nov elections...They know he's poison but they don't want to upset the Nazi and KKK members...the "Heart" of the GOP base

Trump threw Cohen under the bus.....Gotti never thought Gravano would flip and Gravano was a killer....Cohen won't last under the pressure and the documents have been seized....Cohen will never practice law again and Trump doesn't know when to STFU....I really think he wants an out and is pushing the envelope....



[Edited on 4/11/2018 by goldtop]


cyclone88 - 4/11/2018 at 06:51 PM

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Trump threw Cohen under the bus.....I really think he wants an out and is pushing the envelope....
[Edited on 4/11/2018 by goldtop]


I think DT has wanted an out since Day 1 & didn't mind throwing Cohen to the wolves. He doesn't want to follow anyone's rules but his own & chafes that he, for the first time in his life, has restrictions. I fully expected him to throw up his hands after a week & say Screw it & resign. Now, I think prefers impeachment where he can blame everyone else but himself or resign before impeachment & claim he was hounded out of office.


OriginalGoober - 4/11/2018 at 07:59 PM

Imagine if the FBI cared about a compromised email server more than a knob- gobblin' gold digger hungry for a large payout.


Chain - 4/11/2018 at 09:03 PM

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Trump threw Cohen under the bus.....I really think he wants an out and is pushing the envelope....
[Edited on 4/11/2018 by goldtop]


I think DT has wanted an out since Day 1 & didn't mind throwing Cohen to the wolves. He doesn't want to follow anyone's rules but his own & chafes that he, for the first time in his life, has restrictions. I fully expected him to throw up his hands after a week & say Screw it & resign. Now, I think prefers impeachment where he can blame everyone else but himself or resign before impeachment & claim he was hounded out of office.


He knew the minute he won he was way over his head.....It was written all over his face and was obvious to anyone who watched the press coverage election night.

I think, however, he realized he could monetize the presidency immediately rather than later (as most presidents do) and so made a calculated decision to ride it out as long as possible and not really give two sh*ts about actual governing. He leaves that up to Pence and Sessions and the others on the Koch brothers money belt.

He's able to play the part as little as necessary as his base is just big and loyal enough that the other Republicans are unable to call him on his disinterest and ignorance all while he cashes in. Frankly, they need his base too and so are tethered to Trump.

In the end he'll just whine and complain it was the dems, deep state, FBI, Barack Obama, Allman Brothers Whipping Post liberals who caused his departure...


Chain - 4/11/2018 at 09:07 PM

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Imagine if the FBI cared about a compromised email server more than a knob- gobblin' gold digger hungry for a large payout.


So the FBI and Congress never ever investigated Hil's email server clusterf*ck? I could of swore I heard something about just such an investigation, even saw Comey and Hil testify before Congress, read about several Republican led congressional oversight investigations, etc....I really need to get out more as I evidently am hallucinating way too much from lack of sunlight and fresh air.

[Edited on 4/11/2018 by Chain]


MartinD28 - 4/11/2018 at 11:30 PM

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Imagine if the FBI cared about a compromised email server more than a knob- gobblin' gold digger hungry for a large payout.

If you had been paying attention to what is going on, you might realize that this goes beyond more than just Stormy. Several aspects have been presented. It would benefit you to read up on these instead of thinking this is a one issue action. Expand your horizons and look at the big picture. Trump presents a treasure trove of possibilities for prosecutors and investigators to look at, and Stormy is just one inch in a mile.

In the meantime, Trump is paying great dividends for the GOP. The numbers guy who agreed to astronomically increase the deficit announced today he is bailing at the end of the year - just the latest to abandon "the good ship Trump".


2112 - 4/12/2018 at 12:29 AM

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Imagine if the FBI cared about a compromised email server more than a knob- gobblin' gold digger hungry for a large payout.


You're right. The FBI should really investigate the Trump Administration's use of unsecured email servers. We know that at least 6 Whitehouse officials have used unsecured email servers for government business, and Trump used an unsecured Android phone 6 months into his administration. It seems that the FBI really should investigate this. Since they investigated Hillary on this, and it may have cost her the election, then why are the FBI giving Trump a pass?


BoytonBrother - 4/12/2018 at 06:15 PM

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Imagine if the FBI cared about a compromised email server more than a knob- gobblin' gold digger hungry for a large payout.


What I canít imagine, is how someone can be so delusional and arrogant as to think they know better than someone a thousand times smarter and more successful. Yes, Goober the electrician will teach the FBI, lol.


BoytonBrother - 4/12/2018 at 07:06 PM

The Trump supporter is such a basket case, lol. Imagine seeing a guy name-call on Twitter everyday, bash a Vietnam POW, bash every branch of our government, mock the disabled, urge violence toward American citizens, and praise foreign dictators, and then saying to yourself, ďOh yeah! This guy is for me!Ē


gina - 4/12/2018 at 08:18 PM

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Yosemite Sam???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-cohen-to-cnn-fbi-was-profes sional-courteous-respectful-in-raids-counter-to-trumps-depiction/ar-AAvJlay ?ocid=sf

gina's wrong.

Again.

I stand corrected; they did the raids in a nice manner per Mr. Cohen, but the way they are gong after him is like Yosemite Sam. They are reportedly not just looking for the money transfers, Mr. Cohen owns some taxi companies and 200 medallions, they are going after those records also, and since he was involved in finance for the Republican National Committee, they are also after those records. What they want to do is try to push the idea of campaign impropriety, misusing funds to sway an election. In the case of Ms. Daniels, they say that his money suppressed her story, and that story would have influenced the election if people had heard it before the election.


Wott a joke.


gina - 4/12/2018 at 08:20 PM

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You cannot claim attorney-client privilege concerning an agreement (with Stormy Daniels) of which you have no knowledge. If you do not consent to what your lawyer is doing, he is just some guy signing papers.

Trump cannot have it both ways.


60 minutes had a copy of a Federal Express paper that shows something was sent to Mr. Cohen at the Trump Organization, in light of the disclosure agreement, and Mr. Cohen allegedly using a shell corporation in Delaware and transferring funds to Ms. Cohen's attorney, it would be hard to say there was no connection to Trump. Would he have done all of this on his own?


2112 - 4/12/2018 at 10:39 PM

quote:
quote:
You cannot claim attorney-client privilege concerning an agreement (with Stormy Daniels) of which you have no knowledge. If you do not consent to what your lawyer is doing, he is just some guy signing papers.

Trump cannot have it both ways.


60 minutes had a copy of a Federal Express paper that shows something was sent to Mr. Cohen at the Trump Organization, in light of the disclosure agreement, and Mr. Cohen allegedly using a shell corporation in Delaware and transferring funds to Ms. Cohen's attorney, it would be hard to say there was no connection to Trump. Would he have done all of this on his own?


Good job! You are finally realizing that Trump is a liar and a scumbag. Maybe there is hope for you afterall.

It appears like they are also investigating whether Cohen or someone else in the Trump Organization paid the National Enquirer to kill a story about Trump having an illegitimate child with an employee. The NE paid a doorman $30,000 for the tip with a $1 million penalty if he disclosed the tip to anybody else. The NE doesn't usually pay for tips in that way. They usually only pay for tips upon publication, and that was the original agreement with the doorman. Former NE employees said they would never write a contract like that, pay that much money, and then kill the story. Definitely something fishy there.


gina - 4/13/2018 at 11:26 PM

There is a bunch of tidbits coming out now and none of it looks good for Trump or Mr. Cohen.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/criminal-investigation-into-trump-la wyer%e2%80%99s-business-dealings-began-months-ago/ar-AAvQxww?li=BBnb7Kz

If they find material that does not involve legal advice between a lawyer and a client, or is exempted from the attorney-client privilege because it contains evidence of a crime, that material can be turned over to investigators.

"Cohen is being investigated for possible bank fraud, wire fraud and violations of campaign laws, according to people familiar with the matter."



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-official-who-agreed-to-pay-playb oy-model-dollar16-million-resigns/ar-AAvRbNR?li=BBnbfcL

A major donor with close ties to the White House resigned on Friday as deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee after the revelation that he had agreed to pay $1.6 million to a former Playboy model who became pregnant during an affair.
The deal was arranged by President Trumpís personal lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen.
Under the terms of the deal, the Republican donor, Elliott Broidy, would pay the woman in installments over the course of two years, and in return, she would agree to stay silent about their relationship, two people with knowledge of the arrangement told The New York Times. The deal was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The lawyer for the woman, Keith M. Davidson, also represented two women who were paid during the presidential campaign for their silence about alleged affairs with Mr. Trump ó a former Playboy model, Karen McDougal, who sold the rights to her story to American Media Inc., and Stephanie Clifford, the pornographic actress known as Stormy Daniels, who received a payment of $130,000 that Mr. Cohen said came out of his own pocket.

In fact, the contract used in Mr. Broidyís case included the same aliases that were used in the 2016 contract relating to Mr. Trump and Ms. Clifford ó David Dennison and Peggy Peterson ó according to a person familiar with it.

Mr. Davidsonís relationship with Mr. Cohen forms part of the basis for a lawsuit brought by Ms. McDougal, who is seeking to get out of her contract with A.M.I., the owner of The National Enquirer, which never ran her story after buying it in August 2016.

In the lawsuit, she contends that Mr. Cohen played a secret role in the negotiations for that deal, which allegedly involved only herself and the tabloid media company. The Times reported earlier this year that Mr. Cohen and Mr. Davidson discussed the deal the day before Ms. McDougal signed the contract.

Mr. Broidy was a major fund-raiser for George W. Bush, but he is particularly connected in Mr. Trumpís orbit.


COMMENT: BUSH? Is this payback because Jeb didn't get the nomination from the Republicans?

"The documents show that Mr. Broidy has worked closely with George Nader, an adviser to the U.A.E. and a witness in the special counselís investigation, to help steer Trump administration policy on numerous issues in the Middle East. Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, is examining Mr. Naderís possible role in funneling Emirati money to finance Mr. Trumpís political efforts. There is no indication that Mr. Muellerís team is looking into Mr. Broidy.

In 2009, Mr. Broidy pleaded guilty to charges that he made nearly $1 million worth of illegal gifts to New York State officials in order to win an investment of $250 million from the stateís public pension fund."


REMARKS: This is going to get verrrry ugly. And they will drag Saudi business money into it also? Oh boy. I think Cohen just did his job and they are letting him take the fall. In my opinion, Mr. Cohen should investigate countries that do NOT have extradition treaties with the US, do some due diligence and prepared to relocate if necessary and live free. They are investigating him for bank fraud, wire fraud and violating campaign finance laws. It goes way beyond making a payoff to a porn star.




[Edited on 4/13/2018 by gina]


gina - 4/14/2018 at 08:11 PM

"Robert Mueller has evidence that Donald Trumpís personal lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague in 2016, refuting Cohenís claim that he never visited the Czech capital and bolstering the Christopher Steele intelligence dossier that first described the trip, McClatchy reported on Friday."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article2088 70264.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/14/robert-mueller-michael-cohe n-prague-report-claims

Mr. Cohen denies the report.

https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3 A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2018%2Fapr%2F14%2Frobert-mueller-mic hael-cohen-prague-report-claims


"Bad reporting, bad information and bad story by same reporter Peter Stone @McClatchyDC. No matter how many times or ways they write it, I have never been to Prague. I was in LA with my son. Proven! http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article2088 70264.html Ö

11:53 AM - Apr 14, 2018



[Edited on 4/14/2018 by gina]


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 01:21 AM

This whole story is pretty gross.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 02:14 PM

Mueller, knowing he has nothing on Candidate/President Trump is trying to force President Trump to fire him by pulling off this "raid".

Of course Mueller didn't have the balls to do the work himself. Mueller outsourced it to SDNY.


jkeller - 4/15/2018 at 02:18 PM

quote:
Mueller, knowing he has nothing on Candidate/President Trump is trying to force President Trump to fire him by pulling off this "raid".

Of course Mueller didn't have the balls to do the work himself. Mueller outsourced it to SDNY.




The work was farmed put to another department so that a taint team could go through the seized materials an eliminate any attorney client priveladged material. That is common practice.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 03:14 PM

quote:
quote:
Mueller, knowing he has nothing on Candidate/President Trump is trying to force President Trump to fire him by pulling off this "raid".

Of course Mueller didn't have the balls to do the work himself. Mueller outsourced it to SDNY.




The work was farmed put to another department so that a taint team could go through the seized materials an eliminate any attorney client priveladged material. That is common practice.



Which was designed to provide cover for Mueller's inability to find and documents, evidence or witness to the left's lie of collusion.


Bhawk - 4/15/2018 at 03:18 PM

Itís a real shame that there was no precedent or history about how Donald Trump conducted himself in personal or business affairs prior to being elected. Who knew?


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 03:22 PM

quote:
Itís a real shame that there was no precedent or history about how Donald Trump conducted himself in personal or business affairs prior to being elected. Who knew?


All Presidents are thoroughly investigated by the press prior to election.
Obviously the corrupt liberal media failed to find anything.

it is a real shame the losers cannot accept the fact they lost.


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 03:36 PM

Yep, and I'm sure you are going to be a good sport when the Republicans start dropping like flies.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 03:39 PM

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Yep, and I'm sure you are going to be a good sport when the Republicans start dropping like flies.





This is your latest dream?

Just when does this fictional movie start?


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 03:56 PM

It's already started. This administration is dysfunctional and eating itself alive.


MartinD28 - 4/15/2018 at 04:52 PM

quote:
It's already started. This administration is dysfunctional and eating itself alive.


X2

Count the seats Republicans have lost since Trump invaded the WH. In states where he won by double digits, the elections are being flipped - coincidence? Have the voters woken up and realized enough is enough?


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2018 at 05:20 PM

quote:
quote:
It's already started. This administration is dysfunctional and eating itself alive.


X2

Count the seats Republicans have lost since Trump invaded the WH. In states where he won by double digits, the elections are being flipped - coincidence? Have the voters woken up and realized enough is enough?



What is the matter son?
Are you too uninformed or just too stupid to comment on the actual thread.

Mueller has found nothing.


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 06:40 PM

Mule you are so full of it- you say you "only fire when fired upon". You have been disparaging and insulting folks and they are being civil.


jkeller - 4/15/2018 at 07:16 PM

quote:
Mule you are so full of it- you say you "only fire when fired upon". You have been disparaging and insulting folks and they are being civil.




X2. Everyone here is civil except for Mule and pops42.


BrerRabbit - 4/15/2018 at 07:27 PM

Only takes one bad apple to ruin a barrelful. I guess I can be thankful I don't know anyone like that.


cyclone88 - 4/16/2018 at 12:32 AM

quote:
Of course Mueller didn't have the balls to do the work himself. Mueller outsourced it to SDNY.


As a former staffer at SDNY, I'm surprised great bodily harm has not come to anyone who suggests that SDNY is the lackey for any other government entity. [Mental impairment can be assumed.] Can you really think of a more egotistical obnoxiously proud group than NY lawyers who are smarter, went to better schools, and stand a head taller than their "fly over state" counterparts? It is not an obedient orb.


BoytonBrother - 4/16/2018 at 04:09 PM

quote:
Mueller, knowing he has nothing on Candidate/President Trump is trying to force President Trump to fire him by pulling off this "raid".


Boy, that Muleman1994 from the Allman Brothers website is always one step ahead of Mueller. NASA better snag him up before some other country recruits him.

quote:
Of course Mueller didn't have the balls to do the work himself. Mueller outsourced it to SDNY.


Only a decrepit animal, and the very worst of our country, would bash a decorated war veteran who dedicated his life serving our country. The world would be a better place if a scud missle landed on your trailer.

[Edited on 4/16/2018 by BoytonBrother]


2112 - 4/16/2018 at 05:32 PM

quote:
quote:
Itís a real shame that there was no precedent or history about how Donald Trump conducted himself in personal or business affairs prior to being elected. Who knew?


All Presidents are thoroughly investigated by the press prior to election.
Obviously the corrupt liberal media failed to find anything.

it is a real shame the losers cannot accept the fact they lost.




Which press was allowed to investigate Trump's taxes? I think you mean all presidents prior to Trump were thoroughly investigated. Trump was the first to get away with hiding his skeletons and still get elected.


MartinD28 - 4/16/2018 at 07:21 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Itís a real shame that there was no precedent or history about how Donald Trump conducted himself in personal or business affairs prior to being elected. Who knew?


All Presidents are thoroughly investigated by the press prior to election.
Obviously the corrupt liberal media failed to find anything.

it is a real shame the losers cannot accept the fact they lost.




Which press was allowed to investigate Trump's taxes? I think you mean all presidents prior to Trump were thoroughly investigated. Trump was the first to get away with hiding his skeletons and still get elected.

Pretty good chance Mueller has seen them by now. If not, odds are good that Cohen might have a copy in hiding...or at least in hiding until last week. Bet those tax returns tell one heck of a story.


goldtop - 4/16/2018 at 08:20 PM

quote:


What is the matter son?
Are you too uninformed or just too stupid to comment on the actual thread.

Mueller has found nothing.




What makes you think Mueller hasn't found anything? Because he hasn't said anything? That is exactly what is suppose to happen. The fact there are no leaks says his team is quality people who keep their mouth shut.

He knows way more than anyone here and since he's gotten people like Sammy the bull to flip on Gotti and took down Enron....I think he probably has more than you feel comfortable with....

You are hoping he's found nothing...yet 18 people have been indicted and just like most cases, he's collecting as much evidence and statements as possible...He will eventually talk to Mr Trump...most likely under a grand jury situation and since everyone on Trumps team knows he can't tell the truth, they've advised him to avoid it as long as possible...at some point Mueller will subpoena him and then it will be with a grand jury

Mueller was also wise enough to pass on to the SDNY the raid to ensure any investigation will continue if he's there of not....very smart move on his part.

Oh and now Sean Hannity is in the mixer and he will forever be stained like everyone else the Chit Midas comes in touch with


LeglizHemp - 4/16/2018 at 09:57 PM

Imagine if it was disclosed that a lawyer associated with Hillary Clinton and under investigation was also a lawyer for Rachel Maddow.


BoytonBrother - 4/16/2018 at 11:08 PM

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Imagine if it was disclosed that a lawyer associated with Hillary Clinton and under investigation was also a lawyer for Rachel Maddow.


They would be outraged and rightfully so, no pun intended. I would love to hear a Trump supporter's rationale for accepting all of this. I expect to hear, "because Hillary, because Obama". Ok fine....so then, in an attemp to demonstrate why the left is bad for America, and in an attempt to demonstrate why the right is better, the solution is Trump and this tabloid trash? What was the right thinking? If you want to show up your opponent, why choose this? The Trump supporters I know are hanging their heads in shame for the fist time. There's literally nothing left to hang their hat on.

[Edited on 4/16/2018 by BoytonBrother]


gina - 4/16/2018 at 11:11 PM

You know there will be more inquiries since Hannity was named a secret client today in court. What did Sean need fixed since Mr. Cohen is being referred to as the fixer.

Even if they find a bunch of stuff on Mr. Cohen and try to make it fit their narrative, he is very handsome, I think it would be difficult to get women to agree to convict him, he's too good looking.


adhill58 - 4/16/2018 at 11:26 PM

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You know there will be more inquiries since Hannity was named a secret client today in court. What did Sean need fixed since Mr. Cohen is being referred to as the fixer.

Even if they find a bunch of stuff on Mr. Cohen and try to make it fit their narrative, he is very handsome, I think it would be difficult to get women to agree to convict him, he's too good looking.



Huh? Tom Selleck should go on a crime spree...

[Edited on 4/16/2018 by adhill58]


gina - 4/16/2018 at 11:36 PM

It's terrible to say it, but the guy is really handsome, women do not want to punish good looking men. So they can dig up all the things they want and twist it any way they want, but jury's vote the way they do for different reasons.


LeglizHemp - 4/16/2018 at 11:47 PM

Like this guy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Meeks


PhotoRon286 - 4/16/2018 at 11:57 PM

quote:
It's terrible to say it, but the guy is really handsome, women do not want to punish good looking men. So they can dig up all the things they want and twist it any way they want, but jury's vote the way they do for different reasons.


You are a joke.


gina - 4/16/2018 at 11:59 PM

quote:
Like this guy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Meeks



He has nice eyes, but no I'm not into gangstas (gang members).


gina - 4/17/2018 at 12:09 AM

As you know, or should know if you follow the news developments, Sean Sean Hannity's name came up as a private client of Mr. Cohen. Speculation of course and the rumor mill jumped right on it, but Hannity has already said that Mr. Cohen did not represent him in any type of matter, he was just having a conversation about real estate.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/michael-cohen-has-also-been-re presentingsean-hannity.html

https://twitter.com/seanhannity?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F% 2Fnymag.com%2Fdaily%2Fintelligencer%2F2018%2F04%2Fmichael-cohen-has-also-be en-representingsean-hannity.html

This of course occurred right after Hannity reported on a Fox story that says they had information that Hillary of laundering 84 million in an election scheme.

https://www.hannity.com/media-room/report-clinton-campaign-laundered-84-mil lion-in-election-scheme/amp/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/16/fec-hit-with-lawsuit-over-ignori ng-civil-complaint-accusing-clinton-dnc-in-election-scheme.html


All of these grand allegations. We probably do need an unbiased group to investigate all of them, because it is all just too much. One allegation after another from all sides. The DOJ should be able to investigate these things.




[Edited on 4/17/2018 by gina]


MartinD28 - 4/17/2018 at 12:17 AM

quote:
It's terrible to say it, but the guy is really handsome, women do not want to punish good looking men. So they can dig up all the things they want and twist it any way they want, but jury's vote the way they do for different reasons.


I can't tell if you're being serious or saying this tongue-in cheek.


gina - 4/17/2018 at 12:20 AM

Yes there is more, there always is.

"The U.S. District judge who ordered Trumpís lawyer Michael Cohen to identify Sean Hannity had officiated billionaire George Sorosí wedding in 2013. Judge Kimba Wood officiated the ďnon-denominationalĒ wedding between Soros and his third wife Tamiko Bolton in 2013 in Bedford, New York."


https://www.infowars.com/no-joke-judge-who-forced-cohen-to-id-hannity-perfo rmed-soros-wedding/


Remarks: George Soros, financier to those who want to advance the agenda of the New World Order and one world government; annual guest at the Bilderberg meetings, that George Soros.


BrerRabbit - 4/17/2018 at 12:29 AM

quote:
I can't tell if you're being serious or saying this tongue-in cheek


He's being serious.


gina - 4/18/2018 at 11:48 PM

What I question is the Soros connection. We know he wants the one world order. He is aligned with the Democrats, BUT he also gave money to Trump to fund the Trump Tower hotel in Chicago, and then it is revealed that the Judge assigned to Mr. Cohen's case performed Mr. Soros's wedding to Soros' third wife.

So, what is going on?

All coincidences?

What does it mean? Well if Soros is a good friend of Trump, and Soros wants the New World Order, we should be very worried that the elite could have decided to let/help Trump win and let him usher in the New World Order in a way less offensive to conservatives and Republicans.

What kind of a question is that? Why would I even think of this? The person Trump has as his new National Security Advisor, Mr. Bolton is reportedly gung ho on eliminating the Khomeini regime and governance in Iran. If we go to war with or on Iran, ALL hell breaks loose on Israel and WWIII begins.

The other signs are already very close, Damascus will be destroyed, we will do that to get Assad out of power. The new Temple will be built on Temple Mount, they will begin construction 6 months from now with pre-fab parts. How do you use pre fabricated parts for the Temple that will be Jesus's temple? Isn't that rather insulting to him, since he specifically stated the dimensions of the Temple, and wouldn't he expect Marble and materials worthy of a King? Pre-fab his temple.
The Dome of the Rock (which is a beautiful place to pray) will have to be effected, and the Dome will have to come off. When that happens, there will be a new intifada.

I also read recently that the US wants to have Arab forces deployed instead of American troops to remain as occupying forces in Syria. They want these troops to come from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman. The current Syrian governmental army and forces will NOT accept this, and then you will have Arabs fighting each other. Is the concept to let them destabilize Syria and then we just come in for the kill to subdue the country and install a new leader?

You folks need to start paying attention to foreign affairs and foreign policy. I also want to point something out, the Jews rejected Jesus as a savior, they do not believe in him presiding over Judgment Day, so what will we have in Syria? Muslims pissed off that their country is being invaded by US and hostile Arab forces? Christians who know what is going on. Catholics who want to offer their religion full of innovations and reforms - they are NOT Christians. And we are going to bring peace to that region? HOW?




[Edited on 4/18/2018 by gina]


BrerRabbit - 4/19/2018 at 12:53 AM

Trump is the Antichrist, long story short. But this is the FBI Cohen Raid thread, not the Antichrist thread.


StratDal - 4/19/2018 at 01:45 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
It's already started. This administration is dysfunctional and eating itself alive.


X2

Count the seats Republicans have lost since Trump invaded the WH. In states where he won by double digits, the elections are being flipped - coincidence? Have the voters woken up and realized enough is enough?



What is the matter son?
Are you too uninformed or just too stupid to comment on the actual thread.

Mueller has found nothing.




And you know this how?


BrerRabbit - 4/19/2018 at 08:10 PM

quote:
And you know this how?


Read it on Stormfront.


goldtop - 4/25/2018 at 11:25 PM

Michael pleads the 5th in the Stormy Daniels case....!!!!

So what else will be uncovered...I still think the crimes we will see will be mind boggling...or not if you consider the source


OriginalGoober - 4/26/2018 at 12:47 AM

So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


jkeller - 4/26/2018 at 01:45 AM

quote:
So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


So why is the FBI investigating this?

The 5th doesn't fight tyranny unless you consider people like John Gotti to be freedom fighters.


StratDal - 4/26/2018 at 03:40 AM

quote:
So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


Maybe Mrs. Trump cares especially who her husband whored around with.


2112 - 4/26/2018 at 04:43 AM

quote:
So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


You're right that nobody cares about how many men Stormy has whored around with - people are only concerned about one of them.

And nothing quite says innocence like refusing to answer questions because you would incriminate yourself. Sometime tells me that you would have a different reaction if someone in the Obama administration took the fifth.


goldtop - 4/26/2018 at 02:15 PM

quote:
So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


I'm sad you support a traitor wannabe dictator. Shows that you vote for un-American values. That you don't get that he isn't qualified to be there and the sooner he's gone the better....

He's the Chit Midas...everything and everyone he comes in contact with becomes a chit stain that reeks forever after...

I'm sad I have to feel this way too but my Father fought in WWII and DT is destroying everything that generation built...

Wake up....he's laughed at around the world...Macron played him. He let him walk him around holding his hand but when it came time to speak to congress he threw your man under the bus and showed the world how far down the US has been taken...by your vote!! now that is what you should be sad about

[Edited on 4/26/2018 by goldtop]


MartinD28 - 4/26/2018 at 04:35 PM

quote:
So sad you feel this way. Pleading the 5th was an instrument since colonial times to fight tyranny. No one cares how many men Stormy whored around with and tried to extort except CNN.


Did she extort money from Trump, or did he choose to offer up money for her silence after he allegedly had sex with her?


BrerRabbit - 4/26/2018 at 06:43 PM

quote:
my Father fought in WWII and DT is destroying everything that generation built...


That depends on which side you are talking about. He is doing a great job bringing back the Third Reich.


gina - 4/30/2018 at 11:04 PM

There were articles today that Stormy is suing Trump for defamation over one of his tweets, and it was stated that her net worth is 2 Million Dollars.

You can't really blame Mr. Cohen for refusing to answer questions. This whole ordeal is deeper than anyone knows apparently. She was given $130,000, while her net worth is 2 Million dollars already.


2112 - 4/30/2018 at 11:57 PM

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There were articles today that Stormy is suing Trump for defamation over one of his tweets, and it was stated that her net worth is 2 Million Dollars.

You can't really blame Mr. Cohen for refusing to answer questions. This whole ordeal is deeper than anyone knows apparently. She was given $130,000, while her net worth is 2 Million dollars already.



Why does that matter? Trump sues people all the time and his net worth is well over 2 million. Are wealthy people not allowed to sue for defamation?


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