Thread: MLB 2018 - Philadelphia A's?

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StratDal - 2/13/2018 at 02:35 PM

Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)


IPowrie - 2/13/2018 at 04:03 PM

Should be excited but it is hard when your team is going to suck. Anyway's go Tigers


Sang - 2/13/2018 at 06:38 PM

You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


porkchopbob - 2/13/2018 at 09:15 PM

Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:06 PM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:08 PM

And how are your White Sux going to do this year? Probably battling it out for last place with the Tiggers I would guess.

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Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:15 PM

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Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)



They made some good moves in the off season. Beefed up the outfield which was a mess last year. And if they take away Bumgarner's motorcycle they might have a shot. Idiot.

Hey, it's an even number year. They seem to do well in this spot.

They have the 8th highest odds of winning it all. Better than rooting for my Tiggers.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:30 PM

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Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Haven't heard the nuts and bolts of what happened but they should have signed Darvish. So the Cubs got him for next to nothing. They are so afraid of the Cubs that they basically banned Chicago fans from the pre sale to get tickets there.

I live in Chicago and couldn't buy tickets. They know by your zip code and will block you.

Clever folks up in Wisconsin.


Sang - 2/15/2018 at 07:15 PM

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Clever folks up in Wisconsin.





There's something you never hear..........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.




Thanks for noticing...........


Lee - 2/16/2018 at 11:59 AM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Lee - 3/18/2018 at 11:42 AM

I am going to Florida in April. Going to see The Rays. Never been there. Really looking forward to it. They are playing the Minnesota Twinkies.


emr - 3/18/2018 at 02:44 PM

My giants did make some good moves; but it remains to be seen if their style of play can be revived or if it’s the equivalent to Phil Jackson’s triangle offense.

Otherwise 2/3 of the way into the season they (yikes) trade madbum to a contender in exchange for a ton of prospects. Then posey goes. Then I root for 2021


Sang - 3/18/2018 at 06:21 PM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Except in Nashville they wouldn't let you buy online with an out of state address..... they also sold the tickets as packages - you couldn't just buy a ticket to the Blackhawks game - it was combined with another home game.....

But you're right - doesn't matter this year.....


emr - 3/24/2018 at 10:04 PM

MADBUM broke his hand. Probably wont be till June/July till we know if there are long term effects.

The Giants are through. Looking like adding salary to win might be a bad decision.

Fire sale to start later


Lee - 3/24/2018 at 10:31 PM

That sucks. Now they need to fill a hole in their rotation. And right before the season starts.


emr - 3/24/2018 at 11:05 PM

MADBUM is irreplaceable and the Giants already have the second highest payroll behind the Bosox. This one isn't fixable. They made their offseason moves with the hopes of one more title run. I see no options except wholesale dismantling.

My family waited from 1954 t0 2010. We have patience


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:00 PM

No idea what their Triple A system looks like but they obviously have to come up with something.


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:33 PM

Four days until Opening Day!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:34 AM

Yay Opening Day! Go Tiggers!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:36 AM

Here are my bets for this season:

Dodgers: Yasiel Puig over 80.5 RBI's

Cubs: Kyle Schwarber under 29.5 HRs

Cubs: Anthony Rizzo under 99.5 RBI's

Cubs: Total wins under 94.5

Orioles: Manny Machado under 99.5 RBI's

Orioles: Manny Machado will he get traded during the season. I say no.

Orioles: Adam Jones over 80.5 RBI's

Giants: Johnny Cueto over 12.5 wins

Red Sox: Mookie Betts under 100.5 runs scored

D Backs: Paul Goldschmidt under 105.5 RBI's

Tigers: Total wins over 68.5

Brewers: Took them to win the NL Central

Indians: Picked them to win the World Series


Lot of stuff to keep straight. Good thing I am not a betting man!


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Lee - 3/29/2018 at 11:24 AM

I took Cueto as I think maybe, just perhaps, he'll get an extra start or two with Bumgarner out a couple months. Not saying they will go to a four man rotation like the good 'ol days but ya never know. As I've already said they fortified their lineup. Should bode well for the games they play although losing their best pitcher can't help their season long chances.

Plus they have to play the Dodgers 10 times in their first 40 games I think it is.

If they can survive that, who knows?


funkyfitter - 3/29/2018 at 02:24 PM

Here's hoping that the Phillies build on the momentum they had going on the second half of last year !


StratDal - 3/29/2018 at 04:52 PM

Here's to Chavez "Latrine"!

http://abc7.com/sports/dodger-stadium-repairs-underway-after-sewage-spill/3 275367/

Go Giants!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 05:49 PM

RIP Rusty Staub. Great player and even a better person.


emr - 3/31/2018 at 02:17 PM

re: Rusty.

all true; also a great cook. When I lived in NYC c 1980 Tuesday (I think it was Tues) nights rib special at his namesake Restaurant saw my friends and me on a regular basis. Used to have a yearly charity rib eating contest. Usually won by the likes of Willis Reed.One year Brook Shields won (who would of thunk.)

and re: who would have thunk. My Giants beat the Dodgers twice by a 1-0 score on Panik solo homers. Took the claw down


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 06:30 PM

Washington & Pittsburgh, only undefeated teams. Nats don't surprise me but the Bucs do.


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 08:44 PM

Boy the weather in The Midwest & East Coast is brutal for baseball. Games getting snowed out and such. I am going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey Saturday and I think the temp is going to be in the upper thirties. Doubt we will make it all. There is an enclosed bar in right field.


Lee - 4/4/2018 at 08:48 PM

Got my tickets today for the Cubs / Tigers game at Wrigley in July.

And going to the White Sox / Tigers game at Comiskey Saturday if they don't call it. Snowed here last night.


Lee - 4/6/2018 at 10:16 AM

Going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey tomorrow. High temp of 39 degrees.


Stephen - 4/6/2018 at 03:33 PM

I can't believe that eagle landed on the OF's shoulder -- that guy coulda been seriously maimed if its talons were out or got aggressive -- guess it was supposed to land on the mound where its human 'handler' was -- c'mon Sox, let's fly like an eagle


Lee - 4/7/2018 at 11:24 AM

Maybe the eagle wasn't named Steve Miller.


Lee - 4/8/2018 at 11:19 AM

Froze at Comiskey yesterday. Thought about going today. $5 cheapest tickets but I don't want to freeze again.

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Stephen - 4/9/2018 at 03:14 PM

ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


Jerry - 4/10/2018 at 12:47 AM

Watched the Rockies opener with the Braves. Everybody was bundled up completely, only eyes were exposed and it was hard to tell who was who except by their position on the field and name on back of the jersey.
The announcers kept giving the temp from the scoreboard and I never heard it go above freezing, add to that the wind blowing across the snow on the field.
Some of time it looked as if the Michelin Man was at bat.

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Lee - 4/10/2018 at 06:30 PM

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ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


It happens. Not often but usually a couple times a season. Regarding the games yesterday, there was more snow up on the north side where I live so I think the Sox had a better chance to clear the field. There's quite a bit of snow up here not far from Wrigley.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 01:34 PM

Went to the Cubs game yesterday. Temperature was about 70-72 degrees at game time. All of the sudden in the 3rd or 4th inning the temp dropped probably 20-25 degrees in a matter of seconds. Never experienced anything like it. Crowd was kinda sparse to begin with but when the temp dropped the place started to clear out big time.

Plus the Cubs got smoked anyway.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 08:18 PM

Flubs scored once yesterday and they are getting shut out today. Their hitting is as bad as the Tigers. Tough rooting for them at this point but the Cubs should be doing better.


Lee - 4/15/2018 at 10:09 AM

What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


DanB - 4/15/2018 at 01:45 PM

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What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


my son are and I were stunned

it looked like rec ball team


Lee - 4/16/2018 at 07:47 PM

I realize it's only April but watching the A.L. Central it appears the White Sux and Tiggers are already jockeying for last place.


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 04:45 PM

With this weather, I think the season might end in December.


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 04:50 PM

We get our 1st look at phenom Shohei Ohtani & streaking Angels tonite, countering w/David -- Xander is about a week away -- Mookie (foot) & Hanley (HBP) fine -- Dustin will be back next month -- JBJ will heat up w/weather at plate, he's the game's best outfielder
you are never forgotten, Felix Pappalardi


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:00 PM

What is JBJ?


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 05:06 PM

Jackie Bradley Jr. -- he made one of his awesome catches Sat in RF


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:12 PM

Oh. They haven't been the same since Yaz retired.


emr - 4/17/2018 at 05:32 PM

So Bryce (Roy Hobbs) Harper hits a 406 ft homer while his bat snapped in half. I think the kid has some talent


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 10:21 PM

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CHICAGO -- Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo is advocating for a shorter season, even if that means a smaller paycheck for players.

"I think we play too much baseball," Rizzo said Tuesday during his weekly appearance on ESPN 1000. "Yes, guys are going to take pay cuts. But are we playing this game for the money or do we love this game? I know it's both, but in the long run it will make everything better."

Rizzo believes a transition period with guaranteed contracts could be worked out, perhaps "grandfathering" them into a new system with new contracts reflecting fewer games played.
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agree w/this, the season is too long -- shorten spring training, let players work out offseason kinks in 1st few weeks of season -- might help to begin bring outrageous salaries back in line w/reality, also possibly reduce the # of injuries that sideline so many of them


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 11:11 PM

I would rather have these bad weather games in April than during the playoffs. This has gone on for decades. I remember going to games as a kid when it was snowing so I don't really think this is anything all that new.


Lee - 4/18/2018 at 10:21 AM

Going to the Tampa / Minnesota game Friday night. It will be my third game in three different stadiums in two weeks. Can't say I've ever done that before.


Stephen - 4/18/2018 at 04:15 PM

The bottom of the order did it (obviously Mookie too) -- a combined 7 hits in 13 AB, 5 runs, 5 RBI -- Sawx 10, Calif LA Angels 1 -- blister or no, phenom or no, we were gonna hit whoever was out there --

JBJ, 5-2-3-2
have a running friendly bet (ovr last 2-3 yrs or so) that Jackie in his career will win the triple crown w/a Carl-in-1967 type of season -- he has it in him -- already the consensus top OF in MLB

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BIGV - 4/19/2018 at 01:48 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


Lee - 4/19/2018 at 11:53 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


I've thought that for a long time. Often they have to reschedule games in a day night doubleheader anyway so why not just schedule a few ahead of time anyway? The MLB will still get two gates for the cash.


Lee - 4/24/2018 at 07:14 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/pete-roses-estranged-wife-claims-hes-major-debt-du e-high-stakes-gambling-213326581.html


Stephen - 4/26/2018 at 06:56 PM

It's not just the Sixiz
no, cracks & all the Liberty Bell is ringing loud & proud nowadays -- Eagles & Villanova won -- 2 years after winning a mere 10 games, Process products Simmons, masked-marvel Embiid & 6ers are scary

....& just a year after the embarrassment of 2017 (30 games under .500)
....sure enough, it's contagious in Phila as Phillies, yes the PHILLIES, have started fast

Blight for Phans tho -- they booed Phlyiz during Pitts series -- that's outta school, something alluded to by Claude Giroux in an article circulating on espn.com -- it's no disgrace to get beat by the 2-time champions

it's early yet but sevrl teams, Cincy, SD, Miami, Tex, Balt others, are already near wait-til-next-year mode -- ChiSox & KC would be but are in weak div -- they play each other this wknd, likely w/few paying customers on hand --

reported attendance was 10G at ChiSox-Seattle game -- AP report had it at "an estimated 2,000" --
Bummer of a summer in store on the south side, esp their bullpen -- watta name for a reliever-going-bad -- Yoan, however, is heating up in a big way -- mayb this will be the year the potential everyone has always raved about, will finally happen

Xander back tmrw, Dustin next month -- we haven't yet played our best ball, same is true for many teams/hitters -- we gotta make this fast start count at least into all star break -- let's go Sox


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Lee - 5/4/2018 at 10:36 AM

Pujols almost to 3,000 hits.


Lee - 5/9/2018 at 07:54 PM

Are the Red Sux still in first place all by themselves?


Stephen - 5/10/2018 at 04:37 PM

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we gotta make this fast start count at least into all star break -- let's go Sox
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didn't know -- susPECted but didn't Know -- they'd turn into a marauding juggernaut running rampant in same fashion as their 1990s teams w/Jeter. their 70s teams w/Reggie -- Didi G. & G. Sanchez are to their 2 sluggers, what Tom Tresh & Joe Pepitone were to Mantle & Maris........& so forth

the Murderers Row they ain't, however -- We're Right There With Em -- Hanley & JBJ, Mitch Moreland & Nunez coming off the bench, Sandy & Christian starting to hit, Pedey back next week
& we got Xander & Mookie --

One year after missing for "an unspecified elbow injury," David again to sidelines -- Steven Wright might be around somewhere -- NY does have the edge in pitching -- not tonite tho, tied going into wknd -- c'mon Eduard & Sox, salvage one


Lee - 5/10/2018 at 04:48 PM

There was a snippet on ESPN this morning comparing this Yank team to the last time they did this. I think it was in 1953.

Yogi Berra, Jerry Coleman, Billy Martin, Gil McDougald, Johhny Mize, Phil Rizzuto. Hank Bauer, Mickey Mantle. Oh and did I mention Whitey Ford and Allie Reynolds on the mound?

This Yankee team isn't that good but on paper, they sure are good.

Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


BIGV - 5/11/2018 at 02:49 AM

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Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


I remember the 1984 Tigers Starting the Season at 35-5...and going on to Win 104 Games and a WS Championship.

So, who knows? As much as I dislike the NYY, it's good for Baseball.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 03:01 AM

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there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace
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Sure there is -- seeing our starter going lights out holding them to one hit and eight Ks over six innings, we can always yank him outta there & watch the roof fall in --
that's the MLB of today -- it's not about winning, it's about preventing the possibility of injury, as these spoiled multi-millionaires whine, piss & moan their way to the DL for whatever it is they think is ailing them -- frustration to the nines

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Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 04:17 PM

David I guess is going to take his turn tmrw in Tor -- whether or not we can depend on him, who knows -- guessing his carpal tunnel will again kick up this season, but maybe our $217 million man has a few good starts left in him

The headline this morning shouted it out -- "Smith Proving The Answer in Bullpen" -- that is what it takes nowadays -- a multi-year process -- Carson is pitching well after a 2 yr absence -- mayb Tyler Thornburg will too in 2019, he's into the second year of his rehab after missing last season

A tale of 2 veterans -- Justin Verlander, 35 (4-1) vs. Cole Hamels, 34 (1-4) -- Justin has been rejuvenated since joining Houston -- elsewhere, 33-year-old former aces Clay Buccholz and Tim Lincecum are attempting comebacks & in the minor league systems of the D-Backs & Rangers

What about Rafael Palmiero? He too wants to come back, at age 53 -- & why not, he's one of only 6 players w/500 HR and 3,000 hits -- let's go Sox


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emr - 5/11/2018 at 04:26 PM

Re Yanks gleyber is the unknown. Can he keep this up? Except for severino the pitching (starting) is frAgile at best. I don’t like Stanton and Judge in same lineup. Too similar to each other


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 09:50 PM

MAKES SENSE TO ME -- anything to downsize the game & make it more accessible & fan friendly
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Jim Kaat Says 7-inning Games Would Enhance Pitching Staffs, Bring In New Fans

Jim Kaat has been around baseball for most of his 79 years, and he doesn't like what he sees in the game today.

So Kaat, a left-handed pitcher whose MLB career began in 1959 and spanned four decades, offered up a radical plan to improve the sport in The Athletic on Friday.

Seven-inning games.

Katt, who has worked in the broadcast booth since 1986 with the Yankees, Twins, NBC and ESPN, and still does an occasional game for MLB Network, says the league's pace of play rules are not enough -- "a little blip on the screen."

Now a special assistant to the Minnesota Twins, Kaat offered up these arguments for his plan:

• It would restore the importance of starting pitchers: "Go five," Kaat said, "and then turn it over to the setup man and closer."

• It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."

• It would help bring back four-man rotations, allowing some of the biggest stars in the game to pitch more often: "We went every four days back when we were pitching 300 innings," Kaat said. "These guys are bigger, better, stronger. It would just be a matter of training them."

Kaat dismissed the notion that seven-inning games would render obsolete the history books and the stats that drive so many baseball fans.

"To me, the record book has been distorted over the years in so many ways -- expansion, the DH, 13-man pitching staffs, steroids, can't brush hitters off the plate, livelier bats, hitters diving into the ball," Kaat said. "Craig Kimbrel just got his 300th save. That's a great accomplishment. But 300 saves when Kimbrel does it is a lot different than when Bruce Sutter did it."

Kaat thinks his plan would shorten games and bring in more fans. He says it might keep players healthier. And most important, it might make the game more interesting.

"It's become a home run derby, with more strikeouts," Kaat said. "The fans and players deserve better."



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porkchopbob - 5/11/2018 at 10:17 PM

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It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."



You're probably not going to convince a lot of pitchers to support their own downsizing. Personally, I don't really have a problem with the length of games.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 10:37 PM

Many fans do (esp older fans) -- 1-0 and 2-1 games routinely take 3+ hours
Yes downsizing would mean less money -- that's what I have little problem with personally --
a player recently espoused the idea of a shorter season too -- again, I understand that that's taking $ out of people's pockets, but it's too much of it that has screwed the game up -- MLB is too much of everything -- the GAME has become something Messers. Cartwright and Doubleday didn't envision -- it's become a money industry


gondicar - 5/13/2018 at 08:37 PM

Efffff the Yankees go Sox. That is all.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 10:29 AM

It's only May so obviously a lot of ball to be played. However, if I am on the outside looking in, I think the Yanks are a tad better.

Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. One of those teams could win 90 - 95 games and be done after one day by the Twins or someone like that. Hell my Tiggers are somehow in it at the moment.

I liked it when we had the League Championship series. Then World Series.

Oh wait, there was $$$$$ to be made.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 08:45 PM

Robinson Cano is a cheater? Wow!


porkchopbob - 5/15/2018 at 09:00 PM

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Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. .


I'm not a fan either. Play a series, not just a game.


Lee - 5/17/2018 at 09:41 AM

Two out of three is even plausible. Give the team with the best record two games at home and if it is tied go back to the other team's stadium. Or do it the other way around so the best team gets the deciding game at home. Heck, let the best team choose what they want to do.

Pretty easy to do something like this. It wouldn't be like coordinating The Super Bowl. Hell Sunday the Braves played a game in Miami, flew to Chicago, played a makeup game there with the Flubs and then flew home to Atlanta to start a three game series with, yes you guessed it, the Flubs.

Makes sense, right?


emr - 5/17/2018 at 05:18 PM

The only beneficiary of one and done is seemingly Madison Bumgarner


Stephen - 5/18/2018 at 04:11 PM

Or David -- a great milestone last night, a CG (Complete Game) -- his fourth in last 3 years (since joining Sox) -- said he felt fine afterward -- maybe he has a few more in him & not just one&done -- any-way, O's are great for what ails ya -- let's go Sox

Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ

[Edited on 5/18/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 5/19/2018 at 11:24 AM

Yep, Tiggers are four games under .500 and only a game and a half out of first. Nuts, huh?


emr - 5/20/2018 at 07:33 PM

The Giants are also 1/2 game under 500 and only 3 games out. I don't expect this to last unless Madbum comes back strong and Cueto heals quickly.

Three observations
1 - The Dodgers may have the worst team/dollar in the history of MLB
2 - Daniel Murphy is sorely missed in Washington. They keep pitching around Harper who is either going to kill himself or someone else
3- I think Didi Gregorious has a significant injury. Too long/too deep for just a slump


Stephen - 5/21/2018 at 06:57 PM

KC, Balt & ChiSox have same records
ChiSox 8.5 outta 1st place in Cntrl
Orioles 17 out in East -- yes an imbalance there
you never know -- they won their wknd series against lowly TX -- now, a quick sweep of low-lier Orioles, & Just Like That -- ChiSox, yep CHI-Sox -- would be in the hunt

SO WHAT -- w/JBJ, Sandy & Christian not having-yet hit, & w/Dustin back this week (hopefully)...
NY hasn't yet seen best of BoSox --
Carson blamed fatigue brought on by misuse for his return to rehab (espn article) -- refrain from comment Stephen/I don't walk in his shoes etc., & Let's Go Sawx, they love us down there (TB), "Sox-Nation" fan base solid there, time to go on a streak

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Lee - 5/24/2018 at 09:45 PM

Lenny Dykstra threatens to kill Uber driver. What will that guy do next?


Stephen - 5/25/2018 at 09:34 PM

Really disappointed to see Hanley DFA'd -- didn't see that coming at all -- Hanley was great & hopefully will continue to be -- let's go Sox


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:28 AM

Yeah that surprised me. If I understand it, the Sux are still on the hook for the rest of his contract unless someone else picks him up (doubtful).

Not quite as bad as giving Sandoval all that $$$ but still...


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:33 AM

Boy oh boy are the local papers ripping Wellington Castillo a new one. I mean, they are the worst team in baseball so I'm not sure that it really matters.

I do get a chuckle out of Rick Renteria's take on things though. He can spin any bad situation in a good light.

If I cared for the White Sux I would be really pissed with them.


Lee - 5/27/2018 at 11:56 AM

I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.


porkchopbob - 5/27/2018 at 04:10 PM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:21 AM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)



Just think if was the other way around. Or even 4 -4. Flubs would REALLY be out of it.


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:27 AM

My Tiggers are 3.5 games out of first place. And they are 6 games under .500


Lee - 5/30/2018 at 09:51 AM

So my Tiggers get to face Ohtani tonight. I was supposed to go back to Detroit yesterday but I didn't go. I have to go there there Friday. Maybe he will DH and I can catch a game.


Sang - 5/30/2018 at 03:27 PM

Yes, Anthony Rizzo cheated - too bad it took MLB a day or 2 to figure it out.....


Lee - 5/31/2018 at 10:55 AM

I can't believe it was such big news. A guy stuck his foot out a tad? Judgement call I guess. That isn't cheating. Might call him out but he didn't cheat.

A runner ran almost six feet out of the baseline last week trying to avoid a tag at second base. Did he cheat?

And they didn't call it nor did they review that one.


Sang - 5/31/2018 at 04:03 PM

Cheating may have been the wrong word, but he obviously went out of his way to clip the catcher - which is against the "new" rule that is supposed to protect catchers......


Stephen - 6/1/2018 at 04:04 PM

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Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ





"A good team"???
AZ has **** the bed, but Clay pitches tonite -- so far so good (0-1/no discomfort) -- Clay could become a savior for skidding D-backs

they won their series against lowly Miami -- now a series w/also-lowly Cincy, & yep --
…...PADS about to climb out of cellar in anemic NL west

SOME UNEASE THO -- it's the same lame injury so often seen -- "tightness in side, after a practice swing" -- but when it's Mookie -- not good -- get back quick Mookie Betts, our top player --
the left knee is bothersome, unfortunately -- But It's A Long seaon & should settle down for a long-enough period of time for DUSTIN PEDROIA to play extensively/effectively
Hanley, you are not forgotten -- now it's Houston


Lee - 6/7/2018 at 06:40 PM

Just saw that Red Schoendienst passed away. R.I.P. That man spent a long time in The Bigs.


Stephen - 6/7/2018 at 10:47 PM

A career Cardinal -- managed them to the 1967-68 WS, bearing us in '67 -- Red Schoendienst as manager, Stan Musial as their GM, and Lou Brock & Curt Flood at the top of the order -- even Carl couldn't overcome them

Bartolo, 45, tied Juan Marichal on the wins list with 243 -- was thinking Juan reached 243 in less innings, but the opposite is true -- Bartolo 3,300 IP, Juan 3,500

With the bottom of the order not hitting (Sandy is starting to) and no Mookie or Dustin, we won't be able to keep it up too much longer -- let's go Sox, a big game from Steven W Tues

The Braves do still have a team -- it's 90 years ago and they got both Rogers Hornsby and George Sisler -- the town was set on its ear & the Sox in second for a summer (1928) with these two charter HOFers on the same squad -- I remember it well

[Edited on 6/7/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:27 AM

Pitchers used to finish what they started. Marichal had 471 games to 550 for Colon.

Maricahl once beat Spahn 1-0 in 16 innings. When Alvin Dark wanted to remove him from the game Juan stated "I'm not coming out as long as that f**ng old man is still pitching."

Best pitcher never to win the Cy Young. Someone (Koufax; Drysdale: Gibson: Seaver) always had a season just a little bit better

Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 10:57 AM

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Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


I think Bob Welch won 27 in 1990.

Given the way they are playing the game now, who knows if anyone could win 20. And MLB wonders why games takes so long. Fat guy waddling out of the dugout to change pitchers five or six times a game.


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:19 PM

Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 01:52 PM

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Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


I think Phil Neikro won AND lost over 20 in the same season. That is something that will never happen again.


Stephen - 6/8/2018 at 03:26 PM

Same Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings
yep, LAD used eight pitchers in a 9 inning (8.5) game Wed -- Pirates used six, game took 3:48 to play -- I would be more bored than into it at a game like that, even w/the 11-9 final score
Berrios, however, had a CG 6-hitter ystrdy (for MN) -- they've become such an overregulated politically incorrect rarity

[Edited on 6/8/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/9/2018 at 11:17 AM

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Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings


I have always found this amazing. How many games would they have lost without him? If he could have pitched 500 innings would he have won 40? I would have pitched him every third day. Okay, probably not but you get the idea.

Ya think long time Cardinal fans think "what if?"

Too bad he kind of tarnished his legacy by sticking around too long. Even when I was a teen I thought he needed to call it a day.

Not the nicest guy in the world but a great pitcher.


emr - 6/9/2018 at 06:17 PM

Left only stayed around 2-3 years after it was over. Not horrible.

And yeah; he was a beast in 72. Perhaps the best slider ever. And I guess his trade was the Yin to the Yan when they got Lou Brock.

You have to figure he learned a few things from Gibson - who was perhaps the greatest beast of all time.

As Gibson said to Tim McCarver when Tim had the balls to come out to tell Gibson how to pitch
"The only thing you know about good pitching is that you can't hit it."


Lee - 6/10/2018 at 10:17 AM

Give ya that on the Lou Brock trade. God Cub fans have to hate that one. Hall of Famer for a washed up pitcher. I think he had one or two good years.

I do still think Carlton hung on too long.


emr - 6/10/2018 at 01:59 PM

Most athletes do. Its the rare Jim Brown or Barry Sanders


Stephen - 6/10/2018 at 05:56 PM

Sandy Koufax or Marvin Hagler too -- yep exceptions to the rule


emr - 6/10/2018 at 06:06 PM

Kinda of like the Goldilocks sx - cause those three (Koufax; Brown; Sanders) were too soon. Carlton too late

Now Peyton Manning and John Elway - those were "just right"


Stephen - 6/12/2018 at 05:39 PM

Four of the six divisions are tied at the top -- Seattle has won 18 of 23 -- it's huge in Milwaukee w/Cubs in town, they're tied for 1st --
Pirates gotta get going by pulling away from .500 starting tonite -- However, standing in the way is Clay -- sure enough -- 24 carefully-monitored IP spread out over four starts -- 21 K's, allowed just 17 hits & has a 1.88 ERA, so hooray for Clay, hopefully he keeps going good after tonite

MadBum is back, Johnny Cueto & Brandon Belt are nearing returns -- they have Andrew McCutchen & Evan Longoria on a team w/Buster Posey, Hunter Pence
...& w/Pablo Sandoval backwhere he wants to be & playing well -- he looked positively like a speedster legging out an infield hit recently -- Ya The SF Baseball Giants are poised to take over anemic NL West


emr - 6/13/2018 at 01:07 AM

Family has been Giant fans since prior to 1900. Hope Madbum returns to form. ? Cueto? Posey still tops. Think Longoria and Metucheon are past their top games.

But yes; the division is weak. If they can eke into the playoffs and Madbum returns to full they can ride the bull


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 10:35 AM

Miguel Cabrera out for the season.


Stephen - 6/13/2018 at 04:41 PM

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Seattle has won 18 of 23 --


Players like Miggy & Dustin, MAYB, should be/could be looking at the end of great careers -- they've been at it a long time -- Pedey says he still thinks he can return -- his knee is unpredictable, they said it'd be that after his operation

But yes, we see them this wknd., David Price & King Felix tmrw nite -- Mookie should play
3 good innings, then Bucs blew Clay outta the box in 4th before getting blown out themselves


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 08:10 PM

And the Tiggers owe Miggy a ton of guaranteed money. Not sure what they were thinking when they signed him to the contract extension.


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 04:40 PM

In this matchup of ex-Cy Young winners, 32, David is 5-0 in his last 6 starts, 7-4 overall -- Felix (6-5) has been uneven this season -- we gotta somehow continue to fatten up his ERA tonite, it's 5.70 right now, David's 4.00 -- their race w/Houston is as close as ours is w/NY, as the top 4 teams in MLB

Dubious distinction in Baltimore -- at 27 GB, further out of first place at this 1/3rd mark of the season than almost any team ever, including expansion NY Mets of early 1960s


emr - 6/14/2018 at 07:28 PM

Reading about the Yankees search for upgraded starting pitching and it reminds me how much I hate the one off wild card games.

When it was one wild card only a strong team finishing second didn’t lead them to make drastic moves. Young players were left to develop. Trades were deferred. I truly think there was less concentration of power


Lee - 6/14/2018 at 10:51 PM

Longoria breaks his hand today. Geez the Giants are snake bitten...


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 10:57 PM

You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves
SPAHNIE
June 14, 1952
Boston pitcher Warren Spahn goes all 15 innings, fanning 18 Cubs but losing the game 3-1, despite hitting a HR for Boston's only run
Let's go Sawx, it's huge in Seattle this wknd

[Edited on 6/14/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:28 AM

How did I miss this one too
June 14, 1974
Nolan Ryan whiffs 19 batters in 13 innings, including Cecil Cooper six consecutive times, in the Angels' 4-3 victory over Boston in 15 innings in Anaheim. The RHP's performance will be the first of three 19-strikeout outings the Texan throws this season.


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:39 PM

Good start, good start -- tonite is likely to be identical, ie well pitched game w/Sox winning -- their kid is 6-1, & ups to Rick (8-3) -- he didn't miss a turn last year & hasn't so far this -- a crucial one to get 2nite w/our 4 & 5 going the 2 wknd games

Paper (Herald) didn't have that Nolan R blurb -- it did have Warren's, also this on a June 14 the Sox'd like to forget
1969
Reggie Jackson drives in 10 runs in Oakland's 21-7 rout of the Sox. The A's outfielder's offensive output in the Fenway Park contest includes a pair of two-run homers, a double, and a single.


IPowrie - 6/15/2018 at 06:50 PM

Made it to Wrigley last weekend. It was a fun time. We were in the last row of the upper deck behind home plate which was a great view.


Lee - 6/15/2018 at 11:08 PM

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You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 02:13 AM

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quote:
You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


??? -- yes I was aware of that -- just wanted to mention Warren's 1952 gem as a Braves player -- you renamed the thread "Are they still the Boston Braves" last week --
also June 14, in 1965, Jim Maloney pitched a 10-inning no-hitter for the Reds & lost.
He did it again later that summer, this time winning -- I don't think even Warren did that in one season


Lee - 6/16/2018 at 01:38 PM

Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 05:07 PM

Same Here -- some sort of recognition for a 9-inning no-no is warranted -- crazy w/Maloney tho, twice in 1 season -- a Reds great (1960-70) -- 134-84 lifetime W-L -- 20-9, 2.77 ERA, in 255 IP in 1965

[Edited on 6/16/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/18/2018 at 12:44 AM

Here's a weird one. In 1952 Virgil Trucks went 5 and 19. Two of the wins were no hitters. What are the odds of that?

I think his nephew was Butch and Derek is a great nephew. Think I got that right. Me being from Detroit I remember my grandpa talking highly of him when I asked years ago. I have a handful of baseball cards of him. Was never able to get him to sign one.


oldcoot - 6/18/2018 at 05:08 PM

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Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


They used to be recognized and then baseball modified recognition to it only being a pitcher who didn't allow a hit to the other team through a full nine innings (or more) and completed the game. They took recognition away from pitchers who went eight innings and didn't allow a hit but lost the game 1-0 as the visiting team (pitcher only threw eight innings, not a "full game"), which I thought stinks too.

But then, I still consider Hank Aaron the all-time leader in home runs and Roger Maris for the most in one season. But that's just me.


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