Thread: What's coming for the FBI?

OriginalGoober - 1/30/2018 at 03:12 AM


McCabe departs, this could be a very dark time in FBI history. Release the memo.


pops42 - 1/30/2018 at 03:26 AM

YOU ARE A JOKE.


2112 - 1/30/2018 at 03:55 AM

Not near as dark a time at the FBI than at the Whitehouse. Seems like they are really worried down at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and are doing their best to distract those who are easily distracted.


adhill58 - 1/30/2018 at 04:09 AM

The original poster of this thread is not the only joke...

The House Intel committee, controlled by Republicans, voted along party lines to not release its own Democratic members' rebuttal memo. So much for getting everything out in the open...

Side note: Trump supporters are the ones who call people protesting police shootings un-American for saying that the cops just have it out for some people. Then they eat it up when Trump says that Federal law enforcement officials have it out for him. Beyond that, some people in the FBI vote Democrat, but Comey, Mueller, and Rosenstein are all Republicans. It really is not the responsibility of FBI agents to have zero political opinion, it is the job of competent people (candidates and elected officials, especially) to avoid associating with people so shady that they may be under FBI surveillance. When my old dog used to come home smelling like horse manure, I was not pissed at the horse. Horses crap all the time, but my dog was dumb enough to go roll in it.


MartinD28 - 1/30/2018 at 12:44 PM

Didn't GOP's Devin Nunes recuse himself from Russia investigation? Sure doesn't look like it. Remember months ago when he was summoned by the WH to drum up false info. Now he's playing politics with the Intel Agencies. He's being rewarded by getting to sit on Trump's lap for his despicable actions. The voters of California really need to vote Nunes out. He is a danger to the Intel Community, as well as the American people he is supposed to represent. He worked on Trump's transition team, and it looks like he still is. When this all shakes out, he will be seen as a traitor.


BoytonBrother - 1/30/2018 at 02:59 PM

It’s sad that our President effectively brainwashed half the country to turn on our own FBI that we rely on for national security.


nebish - 1/30/2018 at 03:34 PM

I've really tried hard to stay out of all these FBI/Russia/Trump stories. I'm just waiting for the final findings and report - that verdict will be all I need to know.

Clearly the Republicans have been trying to discredit the process to get ahead of any potential findings that may hurt the President, their brand or broadly their side. And maybe there is some truth to some of the questions they are raising. But it doesn't matter. I mean who am I, who are you, who is the Post or the WSJ? Whatever Mueller and the Special Counsel reports is the final word. Period. Maybe some won't agree with it, do we agree with every court decision? Do we agree with every outcome of an election? Do we pretend to be smarter than those in charge and we piece together all our little factoids, opinions, rumors and conspiracy theories and say 'ah ha I knew it all along, the FBI is in cover-up, or the FBI is hell-bent to find impeachable offenses'. It is what it is and we will have to accept it, be it Republicans who are already trying to undermine, or Democrats who wait with anticipation to bring this administration down. One side isn't going to be happy, but the country will have to move on.


BoytonBrother - 1/30/2018 at 04:33 PM

quote:
this could be a very dark time in FBI history.


Keep your fingers crossed for it like the true patriot you are.

There are too many dysfunctional people like Goober who wish for damage to our institutions. Same for anyone hoping for charges against Trump. We should hope for his loss in the next election, and nothing more. Nobody should be rooting for dysfunction. We should root for the democratic process to play out with votes in 2020. Otherwise we look like the gang who can’t shoot straight to the rest of the world. Plus, I think Trump would rather be impeached and “falsely accused by a partisan witch hunt”, than lose a popularity contest like the election. So let’s hit him where it hurts the most.....which is sadly something as banal as losing an election.

[Edited on 1/30/2018 by BoytonBrother]


MartinD28 - 1/30/2018 at 05:04 PM

quote:
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this could be a very dark time in FBI history.


Keep your fingers crossed for it like the true patriot you are.

There are too many dysfunctional people like Goober who wish for damage to our institutions. Same for anyone hoping for charges against Trump. We should hope for his loss in the next election, and nothing more. Nobody should be rooting for dysfunction. We should root for the democratic process to play out with votes in 2020. Otherwise we look like the gang who can’t shoot straight to the rest of the world. Plus, I think Trump would rather be impeached and “falsely accused by a partisan witch hunt”, than lose a popularity contest like the election. So let’s hit him where it hurts the most.....which is sadly something as banal as losing an election.

[Edited on 1/30/2018 by BoytonBrother]


If Trump and / or his lackeys committed crimes, they should suffer the consequences of their actions. It is not hoping for charges. It is letting the system run its course, and if illegal actions have occurred then those involved should be held accountable beyond just relying upon the ballot box for payback. We are a country of laws; not some banana republic for Trump to call his own.


nebish - 1/30/2018 at 05:22 PM

Absolutely, anyone on either side should want people in our government held accountable to the fullest extent of the laws in the case of any wrong doing.

I respect these institutions, processes and typically I respect authority in general. That doesn't mean they aren't beyond reproach. Is there going to be bias found within these organizations, do they make mistakes, do they try and perhaps sometimes hide things? Yes, at times.

I'm just not in the business of trying vet that stuff out.

I hope there was no Russian collusion with anyone in the Trump campaign to aid his election. As had been previously testified to, I think the end goal of the Russian meddling in the election was ultimately to delegitimize Hillary Clinton's Presidency as they, and everyone else assumed she was going to win. But I await all the findings.

I hope Trump didn't obstruct justice. Seems as if he may've, or may've tried, but we'll see. I'm not going to take Morning Joe's reporting and I'm not going to trust Sean Hannity's opinion. I'll await the finding.

Just as I hoped that no foreign intelligence or countries were able to access anything on Hillary's private email server.

Why would anyone want this? Because they hate the person in question. But hoping for any of these things to be true only hurts our country.

Maybe I'm too much of a USA cheerleader. And that is fine.

To me, the FBI investigation will supersede any Senate or House investigation. Any right wing or left wing spin. It is the final word. Can there be some caveats or asterisks added onto their report for one reason or another to help with interpretation? Sure. But in my eyes, and I hope in most American's eyes, it shouldn't change the overall findings.


2112 - 1/30/2018 at 06:03 PM

For the most part, I agree with neblish. I wish people would just wait for the investigation to conclude. Evidence is evidence, and I think the results of the investigation should shine a light on what really happened and uncover any wrongdoing, if any.

I think the Mueller investigation will be fair, and trashing the FBI in an attempt at damage control to try to spin public opinion sure looks like they are not expecting a favorable outcome. It should be pretty clear by now that the House and Senate investigations are jokes.


MartinD28 - 1/30/2018 at 06:45 PM

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I hope Trump didn't obstruct justice. Seems as if he may've, or may've tried, but we'll see. I'm not going to take Morning Joe's reporting and I'm not going to trust Sean Hannity's opinion. I'll await the finding.



What do Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, Jim Comey, all have in common? They were all fired by or through Trump for getting too close to his various actions and / or not willing to pledge loyalty to the dictator wannabe.

Then add the name of Andrew McCabe who was forced out of the FBI via Trumpco even though puppet Sanders denied.

To this list add the pressure placed upon Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein by the WH.

Finally, we now learn that Trump ordered the firing of Mueller, but Trump's attorney threatened to quit.

That's a lot of highly skilled individuals that the WH has either fired, forced out, or pressured. One would have to ask the reason why. If Trump has nothing to worry about and believes he has not colluded nor obstructed justice, then why would he want all of these powerful individuals removed? Certainly looks like he's got things to hide.

[Edited on 1/30/2018 by MartinD28]


ruthelane - 1/30/2018 at 07:15 PM

quote:
The original poster of this thread is not the only joke...

The House Intel committee, controlled by Republicans, voted along party lines to not release its own Democratic members' rebuttal memo. So much for getting everything out in the open...

Side note: Trump supporters are the ones who call people protesting police shootings un-American for saying that the cops just have it out for some people. Then they eat it up when Trump says that Federal law enforcement officials have it out for him. Beyond that, some people in the FBI vote Democrat, but Comey, Mueller, and Rosenstein are all Republicans. It really is not the responsibility of FBI agents to have zero political opinion, it is the job of competent people (candidates and elected officials, especially) to avoid associating with people so shady that they may be under FBI surveillance. When my old dog used to come home smelling like horse manure, I was not pissed at the horse. Horses crap all the time, but my dog was dumb enough to go roll in it.


Great post! Truth in plain English!


gina - 1/30/2018 at 09:20 PM

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YOU ARE A JOKE.


Were you brainwashed by Photo Ron? OMG whippin' posters being MK Ultra'd, even using the same phrases. Oh Noooooo.


gina - 1/30/2018 at 09:24 PM

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It’s sad that our President effectively brainwashed half the country to turn on our own FBI that we rely on for national security.


There are still elements within that agency and the others (NSA and intel) who are working for the globalist agenda, whether willingly and knowingly, or being duped, given mis and dis-info designed to get them to investigate certain people, events that are basically victims of FAKE NEWS and dis-info. Give an agent false info. and he tries to do his job and ends up inciting people and creating injustice, not his fault if he is colossolly lied to. THE SWAMP is still rampant in Washington. Sean Hannity knows it, some of you out there in clue-less land ought to get up to snuff on what has really been going on.


[Edited on 1/30/2018 by gina]


OriginalGoober - 1/30/2018 at 09:59 PM

If the FBI didnt actively work to exonerate Crooked Hillary by all accounts they let many of her questionable actions to withold electronic data go without any followup or concerns than that would be one thing. Unfortunately it looks like Clinton tactics and money have infected the FBI.

Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.


jkeller - 1/30/2018 at 10:27 PM

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If the FBI didnt actively work to exonerate Crooked Hillary by all accounts they let many of her questionable actions to withold electronic data go without any followup or concerns than that would be one thing. Unfortunately it looks like Clinton tactics and money have infected the FBI.

Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.


You got any proof? Other than the fact that they reached a different conclusion than you? Are you saying the FBI is corrupt? Sure sounds like it.


MartinD28 - 1/30/2018 at 11:04 PM

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If the FBI didnt actively work to exonerate Crooked Hillary by all accounts they let many of her questionable actions to withold electronic data go without any followup or concerns than that would be one thing. Unfortunately it looks like Clinton tactics and money have infected the FBI.

Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.


Can you honestly use "crooked" in front of HC and at the same time dismiss the 2000 plus lies that Trump has offered in year 1? Goob, your boy is a pathological liar. Can you come up with a cute little nickname for Donald that fits his pathology?

While you're at it, do you believe that the Russians interfered in our election?

Can you give us a reasonable explanation why Trump says he won't impose new sanctions on Russia when the GOP lead Senate voted 98 to 2 to impose sanctions? Something smells fishy here, don't you think, goob?


MartinD28 - 1/31/2018 at 12:18 AM

What's the betting line on whether Trump will mention "Russia" tonight in SOTU Address?


adhill58 - 1/31/2018 at 03:04 AM

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... THE SWAMP is still rampant in Washington. Sean Hannity knows it, some of you out there in clue-less land ought to get up to snuff on what has really been going on.


[Edited on 1/30/2018 by gina]


If Sean Hannity and Donald Trump are the answers to this country's problems, we all need to be looking for the emergency lifeboats. Talk about a freak-show... Trump is an orange blob fueled by hamburger grease and childish insecurities. Hannity is like the kid brother who doesn't realize his big brother is a fool. They are good for punchlines, but bad for America.


2112 - 1/31/2018 at 04:24 AM

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... THE SWAMP is still rampant in Washington. Sean Hannity knows it, some of you out there in clue-less land ought to get up to snuff on what has really been going on.


[Edited on 1/30/2018 by gina]


If Sean Hannity and Donald Trump are the answers to this country's problems, we all need to be looking for the emergency lifeboats. Talk about a freak-show... Trump is an orange blob fueled by hamburger grease and childish insecurities. Hannity is like the kid brother who doesn't realize his big brother is a fool. They are good for punchlines, but bad for America.


This is Hannity in a nutshell. He goes off on how inaccurate the Trump firing Mueller reports are, then gets confirmation on the air that Fox News has confirmed the report, and then breaks to a car crash as a distraction. Yup, hard hitting reporting at its finest:

https://youtu.be/JlxUZMFPgF0


Jerry - 1/31/2018 at 04:51 AM

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Absolutely, anyone on either side should want people in our government held accountable to the fullest extent of the laws in the case of any wrong doing.

I respect these institutions, processes and typically I respect authority in general. That doesn't mean they aren't beyond reproach. Is there going to be bias found within these organizations, do they make mistakes, do they try and perhaps sometimes hide things? Yes, at times.

I'm just not in the business of trying vet that stuff out.

I hope there was no Russian collusion with anyone in the Trump campaign to aid his election. As had been previously testified to, I think the end goal of the Russian meddling in the election was ultimately to delegitimize Hillary Clinton's Presidency as they, and everyone else assumed she was going to win. But I await all the findings.

I hope Trump didn't obstruct justice. Seems as if he may've, or may've tried, but we'll see. I'm not going to take Morning Joe's reporting and I'm not going to trust Sean Hannity's opinion. I'll await the finding.

Just as I hoped that no foreign intelligence or countries were able to access anything on Hillary's private email server.

Why would anyone want this? Because they hate the person in question. But hoping for any of these things to be true only hurts our country.

Maybe I'm too much of a USA cheerleader. And that is fine.

To me, the FBI investigation will supersede any Senate or House investigation. Any right wing or left wing spin. It is the final word. Can there be some caveats or asterisks added onto their report for one reason or another to help with interpretation? Sure. But in my eyes, and I hope in most American's eyes, it shouldn't change the overall findings.


I agree with you. The folks on here blowing smoke over what they think is going on don't know anymore than anyone else at this time. They need to quit acting like they know what is and isn't going to happen.


BoytonBrother - 1/31/2018 at 05:43 PM

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If the FBI didnt actively work to exonerate Crooked Hillary by all accounts they let many of her questionable actions to withold electronic data go without any followup or concerns than that would be one thing.


Because the investigation doesn’t go your way, you accuse them of corruption, name call, and get all upset. Need a nap little boy?

quote:
Unfortunately it looks like Clinton tactics and money have infected the FBI.


So now the FBI is not only corrupt, they are infected with disease and corruption, lol. And you say it’s the liberals who are sensitive? Sheesh!

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Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.


Let me weigh my options. I can listen to the Director of the FBI and Paul Ryan who say it should not be released, or I can listen to a guy who chose to name himself “Goober” who doesn’t have any experience or qualifications.


gina - 2/1/2018 at 07:27 PM

on McCabe's departure in case you missed it.

https://saraacarter.com/mccabe-resigns-fbi-director-wray-reviews-house-fisa -abuse-memo/

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was forced to resign Monday, just as the House Intelligence Committee is expected to vote on the public release of a classified memo this afternoon revealing extensive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse under the Obama administration, sources told this reporter.


gina - 2/1/2018 at 07:36 PM

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371807-trump-to-declassify-contr oversial-memo-reports

Trump plans to authorize release of the memo, BUT it will be up to the intelligence panel to decide when and IF to release it.

"Senior Justice Department officials, including FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have lobbied both the White House and the Intelligence Committee against releasing it. The future of the document rests with Intelligence Committee David Nunes
whose staff drafted the memo. Adam Schiff of California says that Nunes altered the memo. Apparently they do not want to release it in its original form IF they release it. Two edits were requested by the FBI. [why?]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YzdKpyhYF4
Sean Hannity 2-1-18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieEFsjNLhDg
Hannity and Interview with Newt Gingrich -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7kl_R5AjcQ
Hannity and Matt Gaetz (R-FL)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi_Mb94sIg
Lou Dobbs and Judicial Watch Director Chris Farrell says FBI Threatening Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gWl8suYuY
Trey Gowdy Judiciary Commmittee "FBI should explain secret society texts".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKdKExMuRxU
TUCKER CARLSON SHOW Trey Gowdy " Recovered FBI texts show the fix was in"








Now we learn there are THREE different memos, just to add to the confusion.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-3-different-memos-about-the-fbi- and-trump-russia-explained/ar-BBIAepA?li







[Edited on 2/1/2018 by gina]

[Edited on 2/1/2018 by gina]


nebish - 2/1/2018 at 08:44 PM

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What's the betting line on whether Trump will mention "Russia" tonight in SOTU Address?


I heard him say it once.


nebish - 2/1/2018 at 08:48 PM

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quote:Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.



Let me weigh my options. I can listen to the Director of the FBI and Paul Ryan who say it should not be released, or I can listen to a guy who chose to name himself “Goober” who doesn’t have any experience or qualifications.


I said before, there may be some legit issues that the Republican memo discusses. But what is left out, what is kinda/sorta/somewhat true, what is manipulated? Why not allow the Democrat memo out as well?

There are some really really smart people on the left and the right. But in all honesty, this thing should not be played out and verdicts given in the court of public opinion. We don't know everything. I'd even say we shouldn't know everything.

Just imagine if a Democrat had these accusations against them and the whole circus. The whole thing would totally be flipped around. Republicans crying foul and Democrats in protect mode. It's politics. And it shouldn't be. We need less people lined up on their respective sides and more people that are the "American Party", to hell with Republican and Democrat parties!


BoytonBrother - 2/1/2018 at 09:26 PM

That will never happen.


2112 - 2/2/2018 at 12:13 AM

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quote:Let the American people decide if the memo contents are of a concern.



Let me weigh my options. I can listen to the Director of the FBI and Paul Ryan who say it should not be released, or I can listen to a guy who chose to name himself “Goober” who doesn’t have any experience or qualifications.


I said before, there may be some legit issues that the Republican memo discusses. But what is left out, what is kinda/sorta/somewhat true, what is manipulated? Why not allow the Democrat memo out as well?

There are some really really smart people on the left and the right. But in all honesty, this thing should not be played out and verdicts given in the court of public opinion. We don't know everything. I'd even say we shouldn't know everything.

Just imagine if a Democrat had these accusations against them and the whole circus. The whole thing would totally be flipped around. Republicans crying foul and Democrats in protect mode. It's politics. And it shouldn't be. We need less people lined up on their respective sides and more people that are the "American Party", to hell with Republican and Democrat parties!


Perfectly stated.


PhotoRon286 - 2/2/2018 at 12:17 AM

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YOU ARE A JOKE.


Were you brainwashed by Photo Ron? OMG whippin' posters being MK Ultra'd, even using the same phrases. Oh Noooooo.


They're right.

He is a joke.

So are you.

Just more people tired of the crap you clowns spew.

[Edited on 2/2/2018 by PhotoRon286]


OriginalGoober - 2/2/2018 at 02:28 AM



If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.


OriginalGoober - 2/2/2018 at 02:34 AM


Source; SEAN HANNITY


Sang - 2/2/2018 at 02:47 AM

Nothing has been proven phony yet. Keep calling her crooked and nobody will ever listen to anything you have to say. And, the republicans paid for part of that dossier..... but keep ignoring facts.....

[Edited on 2/2/2018 by Sang]


OriginalGoober - 2/2/2018 at 02:55 AM


You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


Sang - 2/2/2018 at 03:14 AM

The memo doesn't detail anything - it is cherry picked items from a 60 page document. It was written by Nunes and his staff - why don't they want the democratic response released? Ask yourself a few of those questions....


Sang - 2/2/2018 at 03:17 AM

If a democrat was doing this, it would be a constitutional crisis ...... but instead it is a republican/russian bot plot and that seems to be ok........ the republicans are looking really bad.......... hope everyone remembers this at election time....


nebish - 2/2/2018 at 04:21 AM

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If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




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You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?


BoytonBrother - 2/2/2018 at 01:00 PM

“If the news reports are accurate”. “Sounds like”, just shut up. Stop getting a hard on and wait to see what happens.


MartinD28 - 2/2/2018 at 01:02 PM

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You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


Why don't you ever comment on Trump's 2000 + lies in year one? Do you dispute this?

The intelligence community full of REPUBLICANS and Republican appointments by Trump are against the release of a questionable memo by traitor Nunes. Why do you think Republicans are against the release?

Remember Nunes' midnight run to the WH which was exposed as bogus info last March? He is the same lackey who recused himself from leading his committee's investigation...but really didn't recuse himself. He's still colluding with Trump to put out incomplete info to spell a narrative to mislead, but you don't get this, goob. Your loyalty to Crooked Donald is noted.


BoytonBrother - 2/2/2018 at 03:13 PM

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Source; SEAN HANNITY


Well then it must be true. We can stop arguing now everybody.


BoytonBrother - 2/2/2018 at 03:17 PM

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Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says.


nebish, you realize you are talking to a guy named Goober who claimed Obama islamatized the country and confiscated guns. He sees it as a war between the left and the right, and he'll be upset with life here until all Democrats and liberals are eradicated. I'm not even trying to be sarcastic. My brother in the law is the same way. Hated the sight of Obama, loves Trump, but still miserable.


2112 - 2/2/2018 at 05:39 PM

Wow, that was a big nothingburger!


blueskyJohnson - 2/2/2018 at 06:58 PM

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The memo is unnecessary at this point, the buildup to it already got the job done. The FBI is corrupt, Trump is the victim in this Russia Hoax, Hillary got away with murder, case closed.


Your finally starting to get it! Good job!


Muleman1994 - 2/2/2018 at 08:25 PM

What's coming for the FBI?

More corrupt Obama leftover trash getting fired.


IPowrie - 2/2/2018 at 08:43 PM

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What's coming for the FBI?

More corrupt Obama leftover trash getting fired.





nebish - 2/2/2018 at 09:31 PM

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If a democrat was doing this, it would be a constitutional crisis ...... but instead it is a republican/russian bot plot and that seems to be ok........ the republicans are looking really bad.......... hope everyone remembers this at election time....


I've been hearing the words "constitutional crisis" more and more on the news - I think they are actually wanting it to happen purely from a media coverage perspective. As if what we have now isn't enough for the media to be watering at the mouth of all these things to be talking about, just ramp up to the next level!


nebish - 2/2/2018 at 09:33 PM

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Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says.


nebish, you realize you are talking to a guy named Goober who claimed Obama islamatized the country and confiscated guns. He sees it as a war between the left and the right, and he'll be upset with life here until all Democrats and liberals are eradicated. I'm not even trying to be sarcastic. My brother in the law is the same way. Hated the sight of Obama, loves Trump, but still miserable.


I realize. I'm just trying to engage. Hard to understand what somebody gets out of posting if they don't want to interact. Limbaugh calls the media "drive-bys", we have "drive-by" posters.


nebish - 2/2/2018 at 09:57 PM

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Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says.


nebish, you realize you are talking to a guy named Goober who claimed Obama islamatized the country and confiscated guns. He sees it as a war between the left and the right, and he'll be upset with life here until all Democrats and liberals are eradicated. I'm not even trying to be sarcastic. My brother in the law is the same way. Hated the sight of Obama, loves Trump, but still miserable.


I realize. I'm just trying to engage. Hard to understand what somebody gets out of posting if they don't want to interact. Limbaugh calls the media "drive-bys", we have "drive-by" posters.


I guess what I could've expected him, or some other Trump supporter to say on this, might be "there is nothing there, it's all a witch hunt and they are out to get him - make stuff up if they have to. That is why Trump wants to stop it because he's afraid they will just make stuff up and the FBI and all these liberals are in on it".

I mean, he could've said that.

The only thing I can think of is there is something(s) that Trump does not want revealed. I actually do not think there was collusion between the campaign and Russia - but I will 100% let the investigation, assuming it continues, determine that finding for me.

Really what must have Trump acting this way is he has skeleton's in his closet, and the FBI is going to find those skeletons. It's not about collusion. It's about other stuff that he wants to hide. It has to be, what other explanation would there be for him to not corporate and let the investigation process work?


Sang - 2/2/2018 at 10:13 PM

Maybe next we can get a 4 page memo on Trump's taxes............


OriginalGoober - 2/2/2018 at 10:18 PM

quote:
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If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


jkeller - 2/2/2018 at 10:20 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


Lesson #2

He won with help from Russia and has been trying to stop every investigation ever since.


gina - 2/2/2018 at 11:53 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


You are correct, he wasn't supposed to win. But people even in the Clinton camp knew that he would waaay before the results were all in. They cancelled their victory party by 4 p.m. that afternoon, the votes were not fully tallied till 2:45 a.m. this means that powerful elite people (from the "group of 300" who run the world decided he was going to be the winner and voila).

With the money and connections, I think Soros could have stopped that from happening unless he and the others were okay with it. We will have to see how the future plays out, but one of the prophecy people I read had some very unsettling updates recently in that he said Israel will attack the arabs (has to be in Palestine) with nuclear weapons and destroy them, that is how they will be able to have the new Temple that is to be built, and that will probably be the event that starts WWIII - Russia will not align with the US. See Ezekiel Chapter 38. They will be against us, because the things we will be doing will enable the anti-Christ to come forward, and ultimately occupy the temple. This horrible war will begin soon, the anti-Christ will be in that Temple as the head of the one world order by 2026 and Jesus returns in 2030. That's the timeline so far. Damascus will be destroyed by nukes.

The bad guys also have it all worked out how they will deceive the world with apparitions in the sky to make you think Jesus has come back.


Muleman1994 - 2/3/2018 at 12:16 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


Lesson #2

He won with help from Russia and has been trying to stop every investigation ever since.



Another swing and a miss by little keller

The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that the are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.


President Trump has never "tried to stop any investigation".
Every document requested by Mueller has been immediately produced.
Every witness Mueller wanted to interview complied.
Although the corrupt liberal media keeps claiming he was going to fire Mueller, President Trump has not nor even eluded to that.




jkeller - 2/3/2018 at 12:21 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


Lesson #2

He won with help from Russia and has been trying to stop every investigation ever since.



Another swing and a miss by little keller

The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that the are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.


President Trump has never "tried to stop any investigation".
Every document requested by Mueller has been immediately produced.
Every witness Mueller wanted to interview complied.
Although the corrupt liberal media keeps claiming he was going to fire Mueller, President Trump has not nor even eluded to that.






17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

Trump has done nothing about it.

These agencies have stated that Russia will attempt to interfere with the 2018 mid-terms.

Trump has done nothing about it.

Mueller's investigation is not over yet.

If Trump is so innocent, why is he and his complicit GOP Congress trying to subvert it?


Muleman1994 - 2/3/2018 at 12:27 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


Lesson #2

He won with help from Russia and has been trying to stop every investigation ever since.



Another swing and a miss by little keller

The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that the are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.


President Trump has never "tried to stop any investigation".
Every document requested by Mueller has been immediately produced.
Every witness Mueller wanted to interview complied.
Although the corrupt liberal media keeps claiming he was going to fire Mueller, President Trump has not nor even eluded to that.






17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

Trump has done nothing about it.

These agencies have stated that Russia will attempt to interfere with the 2018 mid-terms.

Trump has done nothing about it.

Mueller's investigation is not over yet.

If Trump is so innocent, why is he and his complicit GOP Congress trying to subvert it?



17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

- Wrong again son. 3 agencies claimed the Russia tried to meddle in the 2016 election. All three were run by Obama political appointees.

These agencies have stated that Russia will attempt to interfere with the 2018 mid-terms.

- Russian has tried to meddle in elections world-wide for decades.

The rest of your post is your usual bullsh!t.


jkeller - 2/3/2018 at 12:30 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
If the news reports are accurate,memo details tomorrow... Sounds like the memo details the phony Russian dossier Crooked Hillary purchased was the foundation for FISA warrants.




quote:

You can never spend a day in jail and still be labeled or thought of as "Crooked" so nothing wrong with that description.

If the Russian investigation has evidence why are dems worry so much about releasing the memo that just details how they got there?


I think your hunches may be right as to the origins of the FISA warrant.

But let me ask you this. I have no ill will towards you, I have no desire to trap you in some line of questioning.

Why if Trump has nothing to hide, has he acted in such a way that implies he has everything to hide? Maybe I didn't word that right, but if you are guilty of nothing, why would you protest so much? It's like, if I was Trump and I wasn't fearful of what the FBI might find, why would I be trying to undermine them so much?

I guess the fear, from your point of view, or that of the right, might be that simply, they, are out to get him. OK. I can see that. Alot of people didn't want to see Trump as President. But still, I don; get why Trump is so proactive in trying to lay waste to the FBI and Justice Dept authority. It comes back to, if you didn;t do anything wrong, why are you so worried? Right?

Just give it to me as you see it. There isn;t a right or wrong here, and there shoudln't be a left or right here, just give me your individual take on it, independent of what Hannity or whoever says. You like Trump - that's fine, I like him on some stuff too. But why is he constantly acting like he is trying to hide or avoid something in this Russia probe if he in fact has nothing to hide?



You dont seem to understand the basics.

Lesson # 1:

Trump was not supposed to win.


Lesson #2

He won with help from Russia and has been trying to stop every investigation ever since.



Another swing and a miss by little keller

The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that the are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.


President Trump has never "tried to stop any investigation".
Every document requested by Mueller has been immediately produced.
Every witness Mueller wanted to interview complied.
Although the corrupt liberal media keeps claiming he was going to fire Mueller, President Trump has not nor even eluded to that.






17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

Trump has done nothing about it.

These agencies have stated that Russia will attempt to interfere with the 2018 mid-terms.

Trump has done nothing about it.

Mueller's investigation is not over yet.

If Trump is so innocent, why is he and his complicit GOP Congress trying to subvert it?



17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

- Wrong again son. 3 agencies claimed the Russia tried to meddle in the 2016 election. All three were run by Obama political appointees.

These agencies have stated that Russia will attempt to interfere with the 2018 mid-terms.

- Russian has tried to meddle in elections world-wide for decades.

The rest of your post is your usual bullsh!t.




That's your response?


Muleman1994 - 2/3/2018 at 02:26 AM

The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



jkeller - 2/3/2018 at 02:41 AM

quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.





It has produced 4 indictments and 3 of the indicted are cooperating with Mueller. Relax, there will be plenty of documents when the investigation ends.


2112 - 2/3/2018 at 03:00 AM

quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.


gina - 2/4/2018 at 09:05 PM

Arizona Representative Paul Gosar is seeking criminal prosecution of those involved in the FBI FISA warrant situation. Rep. Gosar has used the t word, treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAoVKMJu3Ac

This is the prince Jesse mentions, Al Waleed who was freed this week after giving money to the Saudi regime.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/27/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-tal al-released-from-detention

https://twitter.com/repgosar





[Edited on 2/4/2018 by gina]


Chain - 2/4/2018 at 10:49 PM

quote:
Arizona Representative Paul Gosar is seeking criminal prosecution of those involved in the FBI FISA warrant situation. Rep. Gosar has used the t word, treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAoVKMJu3Ac

This is the prince Jesse mentions, Al Waleed who was freed this week after giving money to the Saudi regime.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/27/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-tal al-released-from-detention

https://twitter.com/repgosar





[Edited on 2/4/2018 by gina]


I'm not familiar with this particular representative. Do you know if he supports criminal prosecution for money laundering, lying to the FBI, and/or obstruction of justice?

I'm just wondering if he understands treason only selectively or in principle....Please help me understand....

Before you reply, Gina, I asking sarcastically mind you...

[Edited on 2/4/2018 by Chain]


gina - 2/4/2018 at 11:22 PM

I am not familiar with this Congressional Representative but just wanted to give you the heads up that he will be leading others who feel the same way he does.


Jerry - 2/4/2018 at 11:41 PM

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quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


2112 - 2/5/2018 at 07:09 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


There is nothing at all in the document that points to the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the FBI or DOJ colluding with Russia. The memo also makes a very poor care for bias. It does, however, correctly point out that the FBI investigation started 3 months before the request for the warrant, so it was not the Steele dossier that started the investigation at all. Again, this is a big nothing burger put out as a desperate attempt to save the Trump presidency by smearing the FBI investigation. It is sad, pathetic, and unamerican.


Chain - 2/5/2018 at 08:49 PM

quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.





Another scripted response from Bot Boy from Bulgaria.....Surely whoever posts this dribble could be a bit more original?


gina - 2/6/2018 at 07:23 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


There is nothing at all in the document that points to the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the FBI or DOJ colluding with Russia. The memo also makes a very poor care for bias. It does, however, correctly point out that the FBI investigation started 3 months before the request for the warrant, so it was not the Steele dossier that started the investigation at all. Again, this is a big nothing burger put out as a desperate attempt to save the Trump presidency by smearing the FBI investigation. It is sad, pathetic, and unamerican.



Steele was a British intelligence source, he was paid $160,000 by the Clinton foundation, and the information he provided [which was supposedly NOT verified by the FBI] was the BASIS for the THREE warrants issued to spy on Trump, a US citizen, a presidential candidate, and Yes they wiretapped Trump tower and later lied about doing that.

The Russian investigation only became entangled in this because the Democrats said that the Russians were interfering in the election. Did Trump have business dealings with Russians? Yes his companies did, he has dealings with China also, nobody claimed China was influencing the election. The Democrats claimed that Russia was influencing the election - but they did not have proof of that.

The memo they did not want released showed their using our governmental agencies to spy and influence an election with UNVERIFIED evidence from a British intelligence source used to get warrants issued against Trump.


2112 - 2/7/2018 at 12:10 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


There is nothing at all in the document that points to the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the FBI or DOJ colluding with Russia. The memo also makes a very poor care for bias. It does, however, correctly point out that the FBI investigation started 3 months before the request for the warrant, so it was not the Steele dossier that started the investigation at all. Again, this is a big nothing burger put out as a desperate attempt to save the Trump presidency by smearing the FBI investigation. It is sad, pathetic, and unamerican.



Steele was a British intelligence source, he was paid $160,000 by the Clinton foundation, and the information he provided [which was supposedly NOT verified by the FBI] was the BASIS for the THREE warrants issued to spy on Trump, a US citizen, a presidential candidate, and Yes they wiretapped Trump tower and later lied about doing that.

The Russian investigation only became entangled in this because the Democrats said that the Russians were interfering in the election. Did Trump have business dealings with Russians? Yes his companies did, he has dealings with China also, nobody claimed China was influencing the election. The Democrats claimed that Russia was influencing the election - but they did not have proof of that.

The memo they did not want released showed their using our governmental agencies to spy and influence an election with UNVERIFIED evidence from a British intelligence source used to get warrants issued against Trump.


90% of this is completely wrong, starting from the first sentence. This is the first time I've actually seen someone claim the Clinton Foundation paid for the Steele dossier. Did you mean to say Clinton Campaign, because if there was evidence the Clinton Foundation paid for it then for the first time there would be an actual case to lock her up. I'm seriously doubting the charity paid for it.


BrerRabbit - 2/7/2018 at 05:35 AM

quote:
Bot Boy from Bulgaria


hahahaHAHa good one


gina - 2/8/2018 at 11:47 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


There is nothing at all in the document that points to the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the FBI or DOJ colluding with Russia. The memo also makes a very poor care for bias. It does, however, correctly point out that the FBI investigation started 3 months before the request for the warrant, so it was not the Steele dossier that started the investigation at all. Again, this is a big nothing burger put out as a desperate attempt to save the Trump presidency by smearing the FBI investigation. It is sad, pathetic, and unamerican.



Steele was a British intelligence source, he was paid $160,000 by the Clinton foundation, and the information he provided [which was supposedly NOT verified by the FBI] was the BASIS for the THREE warrants issued to spy on Trump, a US citizen, a presidential candidate, and Yes they wiretapped Trump tower and later lied about doing that.

The Russian investigation only became entangled in this because the Democrats said that the Russians were interfering in the election. Did Trump have business dealings with Russians? Yes his companies did, he has dealings with China also, nobody claimed China was influencing the election. The Democrats claimed that Russia was influencing the election - but they did not have proof of that.

The memo they did not want released showed their using our governmental agencies to spy and influence an election with UNVERIFIED evidence from a British intelligence source used to get warrants issued against Trump.


90% of this is completely wrong, starting from the first sentence. This is the first time I've actually seen someone claim the Clinton Foundation paid for the Steele dossier. Did you mean to say Clinton Campaign, because if there was evidence the Clinton Foundation paid for it then for the first time there would be an actual case to lock her up. I'm seriously doubting the charity paid for it.


They say that the man was paid from the foundation, they do not specify it was for payment of the dossier but people seem to believe that is what it was for. Others think it is a coincidence.


jkeller - 2/9/2018 at 12:12 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Mueller investigation into the alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 election has produced no documents, no evidence and no witnesses. Nothing.

The memo proves that there are verified documents, extensive evidence and actual witnesses in the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI collusion with the Russians to affect the outcome a Presidential election.



You must have read a different memo than the one I did, because the memo released today did not come close to proving any of that.



Don't know which one either of you read, but here is the memo:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/fisa-memo-released

You can read the text in the article, or download it as a pdf.


There is nothing at all in the document that points to the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the FBI or DOJ colluding with Russia. The memo also makes a very poor care for bias. It does, however, correctly point out that the FBI investigation started 3 months before the request for the warrant, so it was not the Steele dossier that started the investigation at all. Again, this is a big nothing burger put out as a desperate attempt to save the Trump presidency by smearing the FBI investigation. It is sad, pathetic, and unamerican.



Steele was a British intelligence source, he was paid $160,000 by the Clinton foundation, and the information he provided [which was supposedly NOT verified by the FBI] was the BASIS for the THREE warrants issued to spy on Trump, a US citizen, a presidential candidate, and Yes they wiretapped Trump tower and later lied about doing that.

The Russian investigation only became entangled in this because the Democrats said that the Russians were interfering in the election. Did Trump have business dealings with Russians? Yes his companies did, he has dealings with China also, nobody claimed China was influencing the election. The Democrats claimed that Russia was influencing the election - but they did not have proof of that.

The memo they did not want released showed their using our governmental agencies to spy and influence an election with UNVERIFIED evidence from a British intelligence source used to get warrants issued against Trump.


90% of this is completely wrong, starting from the first sentence. This is the first time I've actually seen someone claim the Clinton Foundation paid for the Steele dossier. Did you mean to say Clinton Campaign, because if there was evidence the Clinton Foundation paid for it then for the first time there would be an actual case to lock her up. I'm seriously doubting the charity paid for it.


They say that the man was paid from the foundation, they do not specify it was for payment of the dossier but people seem to believe that is what it was for. Others think it is a coincidence.


Who is "they"? A link would be nice. Nobody has accused the Clinton Foundation with paying Fusion GPS.


gina - 2/9/2018 at 12:22 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUTQQSxLpEU
2-7-18 Hannity


BrerRabbit - 2/9/2018 at 08:24 PM

From what I hear I am happy to say I have never seen or heard Hannity. I don't pay attention to liberal talking heads either. Makes for a much more relaxed existence.


Muleman1994 - 2/12/2018 at 02:36 AM

The left-over Obama corrupt FBI trash are fleeing their FBI jobs fast.

The DOJ’s Inspector General’s report will probably be released next month.


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