Thread: The 2016 Republican Primary

BoytonBrother - 11/29/2017 at 07:42 PM

What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?


OriginalGoober - 11/30/2017 at 12:34 AM

Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 01:20 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Haha...Right on


jkeller - 11/30/2017 at 01:39 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 02:11 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


Fair enough, maybe we can talk about how Hillary LOST to the "Moron-in-Chief"....lol


jkeller - 11/30/2017 at 02:32 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


Fair enough, maybe we can talk about how Hillary LOST to the "Moron-in-Chief"....lol


By all means, start a thread about it.


pops42 - 11/30/2017 at 02:46 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


Fair enough, maybe we can talk about how Hillary LOST to the "Moron-in-Chief"....lol
Morons believed trumps lies, thats how.


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 03:34 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


Fair enough, maybe we can talk about how Hillary LOST to the "Moron-in-Chief"....lol


By all means, start a thread about it.


Seriously, How does one lose to a Moron?


JimSheridan - 11/30/2017 at 03:59 AM

"Seriously, How does one lose to a Moron?"


It is a solid question, especially because throughout history, there have been several times when leaders rose to power despite what seemed like terrible handicaps.

Look at who ruled the major nations over the course of the 20th century, and you see plenty of ineffectual leaders and even despots who gained popularity and control, leaving later generations to reflect on how some of these people did get to sit in the The Big Seat.


rmack - 11/30/2017 at 04:50 AM

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Who gives a-shite now? Worry about the 2020 democrat nominee. Start by asking, is your last name clinton? If yes, do not passs go. Next question, Are you a socialist?


Hysterical. Goob is still ranting about Hillary, but we canít comment on how the Moron-in-Chief got the nomination.


Fair enough, maybe we can talk about how Hillary LOST to the "Moron-in-Chief"....lol


By all means, start a thread about it.


Seriously, How does one lose to a Moron?


Millions of morons voted for him. You'd have to be moronic to think he was qualified, even more of a moron to continue to tout his presidency after he has proven to be even more stupid after his election than was abundantly evident before last November.


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 05:33 AM

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Millions of morons voted for him. You'd have to be moronic to think he was qualified, even more of a moron to continue to tout his presidency after he has proven to be even more stupid after his election than was abundantly evident before last November.


All that being said, what kind of Candidate can't outsmart and defeat a Moron?


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 02:42 PM

As I expected, the scared and threatened Trump supporters exposed themselves as the cockroaches they are. Look at the extreme defensiveness and hostility! The primaries have nothing to do with Clinton, yet they bring her up anyway. Itís so obvious that Hillary is their scapegoat that they use because they are ashamed to admit they like Trumpís trash behavior. Trash voting for trash so they donít look so bad. So threatened by Obamaís popularity and class, that they react like a mama bear protecting her cubs, and elect the exact opposite to cleanse their scared inferior souls. Ironically, such dysfunction among these cowardly racists has created an association of the black leader being intelligent, kind, and positive, while the white leader is childish and angry, LOL. My original post was simply asking you why you wanted Trump over the other 17 candidates, and I get ďHillaryĒ from the usual folks. Sad they donít have the courage of their own convictions. Sad!


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 03:53 PM

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As I expected, the scared and threatened Trump supporters exposed themselves as the cockroaches they are. Look at the extreme defensiveness and hostility! The primaries have nothing to do with Clinton, yet they bring her up anyway. Itís so obvious that Hillary is their scapegoat that they use because they are ashamed to admit they like Trumpís trash behavior. Trash voting for trash so they donít look so bad. So threatened by Obamaís popularity and class, that they react like a mama bear protecting her cubs, and elect the exact opposite to cleanse their scared inferior souls. Ironically, such dysfunction among these cowardly racists has created an association of the black leader being intelligent, kind, and positive, while the white leader is childish and angry, LOL. My original post was simply asking you why you wanted Trump over the other 17 candidates, and I get ďHillaryĒ from the usual folks. Sad they donít have the courage of their own convictions. Sad!


The sad part here is the simple question asked, can not be answered. No one in this thread is defending the President or in the most remote sense claiming to support him. He has been referred to here as a "Moron" which by definition is : "A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education"

Since he is the President and was elected to that office, someone must have opposed him. That person was Hillary Clinton. Fact.

What can you say about someone who loses an Election to a Moron?

That "someone" happens to be Hillary Clinton.

There you have it.

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Look at the extreme defensiveness and hostility!


There's a laugh out loud moment!

"Cockroaches"
"trash"
"racists"
"black leader"
"white leader"

Now I ask, "Exactly who here is being hostile"?

Pot, meet kettle


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 04:00 PM

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What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?


No, I guess you meant to ask, How he garnered the Nomination? Instead, your vague inquiry was.... quote: "My original post was simply asking you why you wanted Trump over the other 17 candidates"... Two entirely different questions.

Which primary?


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 05:11 PM

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Now I ask, "Exactly who here is being hostile"?

Pot, meet kettle


Yes, I am being hostile towards Trump and his minions. Does that change the fact that you and your buddy Goob became hostile from the scary question that you still cannot answer and instead deflect to Hillary.

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That person was Hillary Clinton. Fact.

What can you say about someone who loses an Election to a Moron?

That "someone" happens to be Hillary Clinton.

There you have it.


There I have more deflection and a failure to address the question.

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I guess you meant to ask, How he garnered the Nomination? Instead, your vague inquiry was.... quote: "My original post was simply asking you why you wanted Trump over the other 17 candidates"... Two entirely different questions.


So then split hairs and donít answer the question. It just proves my point that his supporters are too ashamed to answer.

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Which primary


Go back and read the thread title.

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The sad part here is the simple question asked, can not be answered. No one in this thread is defending the President or in the most remote sense claiming to support him.


First, this is wrong. Second, why canít someone share their thoughts as to why he won the Republican primary if they didnít vote for him? Is there a magical force that prevents individuals from exploring this?


[Edited on 11/30/2017 by BoytonBrother]


Bhawk - 11/30/2017 at 05:22 PM

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No one in this thread is defending the President or in the most remote sense claiming to support him.


Why not?


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 05:40 PM

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Now I ask, "Exactly who here is being hostile"?

Pot, meet kettle


Yes, I am being hostile towards Trump and his minions. Does that change the fact that you and your buddy Goob became hostile from the scary question that you still cannot answer and instead deflect to Hillary.


You are too funny, using these terms:
"Cockroaches"
"trash"
"racists"
"black leader"
"white leader"

....and then accusing others of being hostile....

omg, please


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 06:15 PM

Nothing wrong with hostility when directed at scum. You and Goob got bent because of a question that you refuse to ponder because of the scary thoughts that form. I originallly asked everyone to share thoughts on the subject, and instead you deflect to Hillary and unravel when challenged. ďYouíre hostile too so I wonít answerĒ. Good one! Next time you mention how liberals are intolerant, Iíll just say ďpot kettleĒ, and pretend like i got somewhere.

At least you donít deny the content.


jkeller - 11/30/2017 at 06:30 PM

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What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?


No, I guess you meant to ask, How he garnered the Nomination? Instead, your vague inquiry was.... quote: "My original post was simply asking you why you wanted Trump over the other 17 candidates"... Two entirely different questions.

Which primary?


OK, genius, how did Trump win the nomination?


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 07:39 PM

BIGV was going to engage and provide his opinion as to how Trump got the nomination, but because I was hostile, he wonít answer. Sad!

[Edited on 11/30/2017 by BoytonBrother]


jkeller - 11/30/2017 at 09:54 PM

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BIGV was going to engage and provide his opinion as to how Trump got the nomination, but because I was hostile, he wonít answer. Sad!

[Edited on 11/30/2017 by BoytonBrother]


If you get him to engage, that will be a first. All he is capable of is saying you are wrong and bailing.


Muleman1994 - 11/30/2017 at 10:33 PM

The how/why Donald Trump won the nomination is the same reason he won the Presidency.

The people wanted a change after the complete and utter failure of Obama and Donald Trump had a proven track record of professional accomplishments and brought a clear and concise message while his opponent was known to the people as corrupt, a criminal and habitual liar who had no message and no plan for anything.

The robust U.S. economy now proves the people made the right choice.



pops42 - 11/30/2017 at 10:53 PM

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The how/why Donald Trump won the nomination is the same reason he won the Presidency.

The people wanted a change after the complete and utter failure of Obama and Donald Trump had a proven track record of professional accomplishments and brought a clear and concise message while his opponent was known to the people as corrupt, a criminal and habitual liar who had no message and no plan for anything.

The robust U.S. economy now proves the people made the right choice.



trump has done NOTHING to help this country. he is a WEAK and INEFFECTIVE leader. all talk, bullsh!t and nothing more.


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 11:15 PM

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The how/why Donald Trump won the nomination is the same reason he won the Presidency.

The people wanted a change after the complete and utter failure of Obama and Donald Trump had a proven track record of professional accomplishments and brought a clear and concise message while his opponent was known to the people as corrupt, a criminal and habitual liar who had no message and no plan for anything.


Well at least you were able to answer without being so offended as to run off because I was too hostile.

I agree that a lot of people wanted a change.....from a black leader to a white one. Congrats Mule - by electing a white man who is hostile and immature, you made the black man look kind, mature, and professional in comparison, which is probably the exact opposite of what you wanted.


KCJimmy - 12/1/2017 at 01:35 PM

This thread is truly amusing. First for the Dumbasses asking:
Trump (The Moron) got the republican nomination the same way he won the presidency. He got more votes than those he was running against. Yes, the Moron didn't just beat the Hag he also beat 16 Republicans. And no I don't care to hear you whine about the popular vote because it is irrelevant.

This one is priceless!

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I agree that a lot of people wanted a change.....from a black leader to a white one. Congrats Mule - by electing a white man who is hostile and immature, you made the black man look kind, mature, and professional in comparison, which is probably the exact opposite of what you wanted.
Oh yes the "Food Stamp" President. Or... maybe America was ready for:
1. Lower unemployment
2. Higher wages
3. Stronger economy
4. Stronger foreign policy
5. Lower taxes (it's coming)

Maybe the thought of MAGA was just more appealing to America than more of the same BS.
It's ok to be upset, your side lost. We know, remember, elections have consequences? Almost as good as items 1 - 5 above (and then some) is getting to enjoy the meltdowns over here on a daily basis!

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"Cockroaches"
"trash"
"racists"
"black leader"
"white leader"
Tolerance huh? Liberals crack me up!


BoytonBrother - 12/1/2017 at 01:55 PM

Who said I'm a liberal? I voted for Bush.


BoytonBrother - 12/1/2017 at 02:18 PM

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Oh yes the "Food Stamp" President. Or... maybe America was ready for:
1. Lower unemployment
2. Higher wages
3. Stronger economy
4. Stronger foreign policy
5. Lower taxes (it's coming)


How is this relevant to my comment about their personal character? When did I talk about policy?

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Maybe the thought of MAGA was just more appealing to America than more of the same BS.


MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation. What does it mean to you? Just curious.

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It's ok to be upset, your side lost. We know, remember, elections have consequences? Almost as good as items 1 - 5 above (and then some) is getting to enjoy the meltdowns over here on a daily basis!


Meltdown? That's how you see it? Such a tired old act. It jumped the shark a long time ago. Anyway, there's something to be said about why so many people overwhelmingly chose Trump over the 17 other candidates. It speaks volumes actually, and I'm hoping to hear a Trump supporter explain their side of it.

I believe that the right-wing of America was utterly disgusted/threatened (whatever we want to call it) by Obama, in the same way they were threatened by the poise and influence of a peaceful MLK. Feeling like they were under attack for 8 years, they needed the exact opposite of Obama for payback. Obama was black, mature, kind, inclusive and professional. Trump is a genius and knew this. So he became the opposite they were looking for - white, immature, hostile, divisive, and unprofessional. That's why the election was over the day he made the comment about the Mexicans, as i predicted on this site that very day. The other side to this coin is that humans aren't designed to hear about every single horror story from all over the world on a daily basis, in detail, straight to the palm of our hands. Our minds are consumed with the world's problems, instead of being consumed with their real life in front of their faces - quality of home life, work, health, personal relationships, etc. Add social media incitement from both sides, and we're getting the cold civil war we see today.


KCJimmy - 12/1/2017 at 02:24 PM

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Who said I'm a liberal? I voted for Bush.
I said it. Which Bush did you vote for? I am not sure that excuses you from liberalness. And people do change. I voted for Jimmy Carter

[Edited on 12/1/2017 by KCJimmy]


BoytonBrother - 12/1/2017 at 02:40 PM

W. Bush. I liked him. I would've voted Republican this time around, but not in a million years with Trump as the nomination - not because of any policy, but because he is a rude, ignorant, divisive pig, and that is more dangerous than you might believe.


BillyBlastoff - 12/1/2017 at 03:46 PM

Hey Big V...? Serious question... I think you used to sell wine. Did you lose customers after you came out of the closet as Nazi?


BIGV - 12/1/2017 at 10:51 PM

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Hey Big V...? Serious question... I think you used to sell wine. Did you lose customers after you came out of the closet as Nazi?


I believe I was asked earlier "Why Trump got the nomination"...The above "serious question" is exactly why. There was zero serious discussion about the election prior to. Anyone stating their support for Candidate Trump was absolutely shouted down.....Look through this thread and take note of who does the name calling, accusing & so forth. State an opinion contrary to the beliefs of Mr. Keller, Boynton Brother, Pops & Billy B. and the crap starts flying. Tolerance? Please. Who brought out the racism card? Who here asked about being a Nazi? Who referred to the President as scum?...Who called the President a Moron? Which person here defends Hostility? Who used the term "Cockroaches"? I was accused of "unraveling" and "getting bent" when no such thing occurred...Who in their right minds wants to engage in conversation when this type of ineffectual, infantile response awaits. All because your opinion is different.

This is why Mr. Trump won, this is exactly why.

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Which primary?


Go back and read the thread title.
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I have. May I add that the thread title is vague. Most states have "Primaries". The candidate with the most delegates is awarded the Nomination. The question clearly asks who won the primary, to which I replied "Which one"?

Here comes the old "You know what I meant" response. Clearly, for one who can be so quick to judge others for their opinions in what he believes to be clear, concise wording, surely getting the thread title correct should have been a walk in the park.




KCJimmy - 12/1/2017 at 11:29 PM

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Oh yes the "Food Stamp" President. Or... maybe America was ready for:
1. Lower unemployment
2. Higher wages
3. Stronger economy
4. Stronger foreign policy
5. Lower taxes (it's coming)


How is this relevant to my comment about their personal character? When did I talk about policy?
My mistake. So if you have good character it doesn't matter if your policies suck? It is my opinion, and I am not alone, that our previous President suffered from both a lack of character and bad policies. This probably helped Trump win.

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Maybe the thought of MAGA was just more appealing to America than more of the same BS.


MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation. What does it mean to you? Just curious.
To me it means just what it says - Make America Great Again. This MAY still be the greatest country on earth but the USA suffered under the policies of Barak Obama (see the policy stuff). Trump is already moving us in the right direction and whether you admit it or not it is the democrats slowing him down. Question for you: What makes you so certain that "MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation"? It seems pretty straight forward to me.

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It's ok to be upset, your side lost. We know, remember, elections have consequences? Almost as good as items 1 - 5 above (and then some) is getting to enjoy the meltdowns over here on a daily basis!


Meltdown? That's how you see it? Such a tired old act. It jumped the shark a long time ago. Anyway, there's something to be said about why so many people overwhelmingly chose Trump over the 17 other candidates. It speaks volumes actually, and I'm hoping to hear a Trump supporter explain their side of it.

I believe that the right-wing of America was utterly disgusted/threatened (whatever we want to call it) by Obama, in the same way they were threatened by the poise and influence of a peaceful MLK. Feeling like they were under attack for 8 years, they needed the exact opposite of Obama for payback. Obama was black, mature, kind, inclusive and professional. Trump is a genius and knew this. So he became the opposite they were looking for - white, immature, hostile, divisive, and unprofessional. That's why the election was over the day he made the comment about the Mexicans, as i predicted on this site that very day. The other side to this coin is that humans aren't designed to hear about every single horror story from all over the world on a daily basis, in detail, straight to the palm of our hands. Our minds are consumed with the world's problems, instead of being consumed with their real life in front of their faces - quality of home life, work, health, personal relationships, etc. Add social media incitement from both sides, and we're getting the cold civil war we see today.
Dude you are totally confused. The RIGHT was threatened by MLK? Check you history son. Are you one of those that tries to attribute the Jim Crow Laws to Republicans? The right was fed up with Obama, you got that part right. And now you have President Trump. As for why America chose Trump over 17 other Republicans see my policy issues above and better yet READ THE POST ABOVE THIS BY BIGV. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is a blast!


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 12:35 AM

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Look through this thread and take note of who does the name calling, accusing & so forth. State an opinion contrary to the beliefs of Mr. Keller, Boynton Brother, Pops & Billy B. and the crap starts flying. Tolerance? Please. Who brought out the racism card? Who here asked about being a Nazi? Who referred to the President as scum?...Who called the President a Moron? Which person here defends Hostility? Who used the term "Cockroaches"? I was accused of "unraveling" and "getting bent" when no such thing occurred...Who in their right minds wants to engage in conversation when this type of ineffectual, infantile response awaits. All because your opinion is different.


This is so weak and pathetic. Because I got angry and posted some name-calling, it means your entire theory about hating liberals is correct! Give us all a break from your melodrama. It's silly. Trump is tweeting like a maniac everyday while Obama never did such a childish thing. But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two. You are a joke! Stay at the kids table.


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 12:36 AM

Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination. It seems like you are terrified to get into it. Probably because you have nothing!


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 12:43 AM

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Dude you are totally confused. The RIGHT was threatened by MLK? Check you history son. Are you one of those that tries to attribute the Jim Crow Laws to Republicans? The right was fed up with Obama, you got that part right. And now you have President Trump. As for why America chose Trump over 17 other Republicans see my policy issues above and better yet READ THE POST ABOVE THIS BY BIGV. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is a blast!


Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward. F policy and party. I have no issue whatsoever with Republican values. A bunch of pigs hijacked the party as far as I'm concerned. You think he won because of policy? He was talking about the wall at that time. Some policy! So in depth!


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 12:43 AM

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But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two.


So you are a Liberal?


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 12:45 AM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 12:48 AM

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Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination.


At least you are now referring to it correctly as the Nomination and not the "Primary"....lol. Read my above post, I stated why I believe he won, typically, it is not the answer that fits your agenda so you will trash it. That's OK, I am quite used to that.


Bhawk - 12/2/2017 at 12:48 AM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 12:59 AM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


jkeller - 12/2/2017 at 01:18 AM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Cool story, bro.


Jerry - 12/2/2017 at 02:07 AM

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What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?


Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by Jerry]


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:53 AM

BIGV's point is that when liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won". Because liberals got mad (and I'm referring to your opinion of the liberal "problem", not myself) at a hostile, immature, bully making a mockery of our office, you equate the two? That's flat out stupid. Because liberals got angry at the brutal attacks on Obama, they are the same as the attackers? That appears to be your juvenile logic.

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by BoytonBrother]


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:56 AM

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Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/


Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 04:58 AM

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BIGV's point is that went liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won".


You asked and I answered. If it does not fit your idea of logic, or your agenda, well that's tough.


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 05:16 AM

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In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 06:30 AM

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In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.


I post an opinion about the Election and you become agitated. Too funny and if you doubt that, scroll through this thread, it ain't me Pal.

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Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine.


You mean last February?


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 12:28 PM

Do me a favor and stop PMing me.


alanwoods - 12/2/2017 at 12:30 PM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.


OriginalGoober - 12/2/2017 at 01:18 PM

Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title. Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb! Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.

...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by OriginalGoober]


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:03 PM

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I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.


Fine, I acted badly in this thread. Liberals have acted badly with intolerance and hostility. All true. And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite, which is sad! And since it is true, there was an easy opportunity for the right to demonstrate that they are better, but like you said, that did happen in this particular election. Sad! Some might argue that the bigger failure falls on those who chose to go lower out of spite.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 04:10 PM

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And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite


Where?


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:30 PM

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Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title.


I find it interesting that those people felt uncomfortable discussing it. Why?

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Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb!


Why didn't you say this instead of what is sitting there as the first post of the thread? If I were BIGV, I would say, "THIS is why we voted for Obama". But I wouldn't, because that's ridiculous.

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Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.


I don't think it's a hate for minority groups...I think it's more of a feeling of being threatened by change.

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...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.


I can understand this concern for those living in a border state, but if not, then I think people use this as their boogeyman. And you gotta think out of the box a little. Why can't it be stopped? Lets face it, Trump might put a small dent in it during his term but that's about it - it's more of a feel-good move more than anything else. It can't be stopped because our economy needs them. Businesses of all sizes need them. My far-right wing friend has a small business, and hiring is his biggest challenge. He now has mostly immigrants on his staff because they are the most productive and best people he could find, lol. Like I said, our economy needs them. Latin America is poor because their development is not a priority for the US. There's nothing Trump can do about that.

Anyway, it was refreshing to see a decent attempt to engage and add to the discussion for once, instead of trolling.


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:32 PM

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Where?


I was referring to Trump, and your own quote above about how it did happend in this election - that they voted for Trump because of bad liberal behavior.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 04:36 PM

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Where?


and your own quote above


And this is "Taking it lower"?

Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 04:54 PM

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And this is "Taking it lower"?


Putting a personality like Trump in the office out of spite, not because he's best for our country, is a much bigger failure than liberals spouting off a bunch of b.s.

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Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.


Putting a person like Trump in office out of spite, not because he was the best, is a little bigger than my inappropriate website post, don't you think? And are ya sure about that bar comment? Go back and read the first 2 posts, and see how my thread was met. Seems pretty...pretty.....pretty.......pretty low to me.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 04:56 PM

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And are ya sure about that bar comment?


Yeah, pretty sure, I just read through the whole thread. No wait, I'm positive.


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 05:14 PM

And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 05:28 PM

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And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.


Too funny

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Fine, I acted badly in this thread.


But it's someone else's fault!


BoytonBrother - 12/2/2017 at 05:38 PM

Huh? That quote is the exact opposite of blaming others....it's me admitting fault. I'm bailing out after that delusion. Mule and Jerry, what are your thoughts on global warming?


Jerry - 12/3/2017 at 02:15 AM

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Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/


Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.



Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


BoytonBrother - 12/3/2017 at 04:17 AM

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


KCJimmy - 12/4/2017 at 05:13 PM

Can we all just agree that it is Boyton's fault that Trump got elected? He is better for the country than Hillary would have been so I will offer my Thanks to our Brother From Boyton! THANKS! Looking forward to my tax cuts! You may want to lay low dude there are some libs that are not happy about the outcome of the election you influenced!


Bhawk - 12/4/2017 at 07:29 PM

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.


Sure, but I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.

I also wonder how adults can justify casting a vote based on nothing more than "neener, neener, libtard!" But, oh well.


KCJimmy - 12/4/2017 at 08:50 PM

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I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.
Cool huh? Advertisers pay Big Bucks to get their commercials on the airwaves while liberals are being attacked. CNN tries the same thing and calls it News and no one will watch!




[Edited on 12/4/2017 by KCJimmy]


Bhawk - 12/4/2017 at 09:23 PM

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I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.
Cool huh? Advertisers pay Big Bucks to get their commercials on the airwaves while liberals are being attacked. CNN tries the same thing and calls it News and no one will watch!



Whatever that's supposed to mean.


KCJimmy - 12/4/2017 at 09:46 PM

It means that advertisers are willing to pay big bucks to advertise on radio & TV shows where conservatives bash liberals. CNN (Liberals) bashes conservatives all day long and nobody listens (or watches). It seems in the entertainment world there is value in the bashing liberals but not so much the other way around.


Bhawk - 12/4/2017 at 10:27 PM

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It means that advertisers are willing to pay big bucks to advertise on radio & TV shows where conservatives bash liberals. CNN (Liberals) bashes conservatives all day long and nobody listens (or watches). It seems in the entertainment world there is value in the bashing liberals but not so much the other way around.


As long as you're good with it, that's all that matters.


KCJimmy - 12/4/2017 at 11:29 PM

You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!


Bhawk - 12/5/2017 at 03:55 PM

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You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!


It wasn't my point at all, but you knew that.


KCJimmy - 12/5/2017 at 04:28 PM

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You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!


It wasn't my point at all, but you knew that.
You are persistent, but you knew that.


Jerry - 12/6/2017 at 12:35 AM

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.


Jerry - 12/12/2017 at 02:38 AM

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.


What? No response to that fact that Democrats put Trump in the White House?


2112 - 12/12/2017 at 04:53 AM

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.


What? No response to that fact that Democrats put Trump in the White House?


In some respects they did. Had a few Bernie or bust voters in a few key states not stayed home, Trump would not be ruining the country right now.


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