Thread: I'm Grateful Hillary Clinton Is Not President

OriginalGoober - 11/24/2017 at 12:36 PM

I'm Grateful Hillary Clinton Is Not President
SOURCE: WASH POST

This Thanksgiving weekend, I am grateful for many things — but when it comes to politics, I am especially thankful that Hillary Clinton is not sitting in the Oval Office.

I am thankful that Neil M. Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court and that President Donald Trump has secured a conservative majority that will protect human life, religious liberty, the Second Amendment and limited government. I am also thankful the president is moving at record pace to fill the federal appeals courts with young conservative judges. While the Supreme Court only hears about 80 cases a year, the federal appeals courts get final say on about 60,000 — and because Democrats ended the filibuster, they can't stop Trump from filling those courts with conservative legal rock stars. The Senate has already confirmed eight of Trump's nine appellate nominees — the most this early in a presidency since Richard Nixon — and Trump will appoint plenty more before his first term expires. As former Clinton adviser Ronald A. Klain complained in The Post, "the next two generations of Americans will live under laws interpreted by hundreds of [Trump-appointed] judges."

That alone is worth it. But there is more to be thankful for.

I'm thankful the New York Times's Linda Greenhouse is complaining that Trump has appointed so many "individuals who have devoted their adult lifetimes to the anti-abortion cause" that federal agencies now resemble an "outpost of the National Right to Life Committee."

While Congress could not repeal Obamacare, I'm thankful that failure now makes passage of conservative tax reform more likely, because House and Senate Republicans know that failure to do so is political suicide. And I'm thankful we have a president who is ready to sign that tax reform into law.

I'm thankful that Trump withdrew from the Paris climate agreement, is dismantling President Barack Obama's Clean Power Plan, clearing the way for the Keystone XL pipeline, and undertaking the largest regulatory rollback in the EPA's 46-year history.

I am thankful Trump has secured the release of American citizens imprisoned by China, North Korea, Egypt and the Taliban-linked Haqqani Network — without releasing senior Taliban leaders from Guantanamo Bay.

I am thankful that Trump finally enforced Obama's red line on the use of chemical weapons in Syria, took the shackles off of our military in the fight against the Islamic State, got NATO allies to kick in $12 billion more for our collective security, imposed new sanctions on Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, requested emergency funding for ballistic missile defense, declared North Korea a terrorist state, and sent a clear message to Pyongyang that it will not be permitted to threaten American cities with nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. His foreign policy is far from perfect, but it is a marked improvement over the Obama-Clinton approach.

Trump hasn't ushered in a new era of American isolationism. And despite the dire warnings of creeping authoritarianism, there are no gulags in the United States today. Quite the opposite, there are plenty of checks on Trump's power. Federal judges have narrowed his travel ban, blocked his cut of funding for sanctuary cities, and stopped his ban on transgender troops. He has not changed libel laws to go after a free press, restored waterboarding, or built his border wall. Heck, he could not even repeal Obamacare. Our system of Constitutional checks and balances works — in some cases, too well.

The republic will survive the Trump presidency, and so will the Republican Party. I don't buy the argument that Trump is doing irreversible damage to the GOP or the Republican brand. Nixon resigned in disgrace in 1974, and six years later we were inaugurating Ronald Reagan and then it was Morning in America again. If Trump does end up dragging the Republican Party down, all it takes is one great leader to resurrect it.

In the meantime, I want Trump's presidency to be a success. Trump was not my first choice for president (or my second . . . or third . . . or fourth), and I am well aware of his many deep flaws. When he is wrong, I have called him out and will continue to do so. But I want Trump to fill the courts with conservative judges, reform the tax code, take on North Korea, counter Iran, defeat Islamist radicalism, roll back the regulatory state, expand school choice, and protect the unborn. And I'm thankful that because of his election, we are making progress on these fronts — and that Clinton is hawking books for a living.

Marc A. Thiessen is a fellow with the American Enterprise Institute and former chief speechwriter to President George W. Bush. He writes for The Washington Post, where this first appeared.


pops42 - 11/25/2017 at 10:11 PM

Your loyal support for a: Lying, Incompetent, Conman, Criminal, is duly noted.


StratDal - 11/27/2017 at 02:23 PM

While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.


BrerRabbit - 11/27/2017 at 10:56 PM

That certainly isn't saying much.


rmack - 11/28/2017 at 01:03 AM

Goob, I realize that anyone who can string words together coherently constitutes your intellectual superior, but this guy is an idiot and a proven liar.


BoytonBrother - 11/28/2017 at 02:39 AM

Imagine the guilt one must feel to write an article to explain why you had to do something. Sadly, this doesn't explain how Trump got the nomination over 18 other Republicans.


jkeller - 11/28/2017 at 03:06 AM

Hey Goob, let talk about something relevant. What do you think about the tax reform bill? What do you think about the fact that Flynn is probably cooperating with Mueller? Why hasn't the wall been built? Why hasn't Obamacare been repealed?


BIGV - 11/28/2017 at 07:06 AM

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I'd prefer her over our current president.


Absolutely not.


BoytonBrother - 11/28/2017 at 04:48 PM

Absolutely not is right! I won’t stand for her corrupt use of private emails, her failure in Benghazi, and elitist politics. I’d rather stand with Putin, the Nazis, racism, sexism, bullying, and name-calling on Twitter!


pops42 - 11/28/2017 at 05:08 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


KCJimmy - 11/28/2017 at 05:57 PM


jkeller - 11/28/2017 at 06:15 PM

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I'd prefer her over our current president.


Absolutely not.


Why?


BoytonBrother - 11/28/2017 at 06:26 PM

He’d rather stand with Putin, the Nazis, racism, sexism, bullying, and name-calling on Twitter.


BrerRabbit - 11/29/2017 at 08:01 AM

Guess this far right columnist poured enough ketchup on his sh!t sandwich to get you to choke it down. Bon appétit, suckers.


LionBoss - 11/30/2017 at 02:27 PM

To The Original Poster of this thread really you are so happy Hillary is not president ey? well let me tell you this president trump is BRAINDEAD ok he does stupid things and says stupid things. Our country is the laughing stock of the world because of President Trump. President Trump is the worst president we have had since Bush was President. Republican presidents are never good for our country we have gone so far backwards this year because of President Trump we will never go forwards again with Trump as president.


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 04:03 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


PhotoRon286 - 11/30/2017 at 05:18 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


She won the popular vote by over three million.


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 05:23 PM

Exactly. Hillary is the phantom boogeyman that Trump supporters use to justify liking such trash.


BIGV - 11/30/2017 at 05:32 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


She won the popular vote by over three million.


Thank God and our Forefathers for the Electoral College


BoytonBrother - 11/30/2017 at 06:16 PM

More of the “let me pretend to hate Hillary” routine.


jkeller - 11/30/2017 at 06:28 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


She won the popular vote by over three million.


Thank God and our Forefathers for the Electoral College


Instead of snarky comments, why don't you tell us why Trump was a superior choice. (Hint: He isn't Clinton is not an answer.)


pops42 - 11/30/2017 at 06:28 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.
What bullsh!t?, name something??.


BrerRabbit - 11/30/2017 at 09:12 PM

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Thank God and our Forefathers for the Electoral College



LionBoss - 12/1/2017 at 05:52 PM

to the original poster of this thread one more thing i need to point out about President Trump what a EPIC CRYBABY HE IS And you have had no idea about that?


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 06:04 PM

@LionBoss - you registered yesterday. Two posts trolling the Whipping Post . . . not a real great intro to HTW. Despite all the noise we make here in the Whipping Post, we are all here because of music.


LionBoss - 12/1/2017 at 09:20 PM

HTW?


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 09:25 PM

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HTW?


priceless


porkchopbob - 12/1/2017 at 09:41 PM

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HTW?


It's an acronym for "Hittin' the Web". OOMPPIWIPEITRKEOA! (One Of My Pet Peeves Is When It's Presumed Everyone In The Room Knows Each Others' Abbreviations).

Anyways, welcome to the Allman Brothers forum, LionBoss!


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 09:46 PM

One of my pet peeves here is when folks show up out of nowhere only to spew political barf in Whipping Post without even checking into the music forums, or something to do with ABB

Be happy to welcome LionBoss in an ABB or music thread. Until then . . . troll.


LionBoss - 12/1/2017 at 09:53 PM

Hitting The Web ey wow never saw that one coming I bet that is because I have only been to this website a few times I will give you guys credit for knowing that one.


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 09:58 PM

See porkchop? There's your thanks for your friendly welcome. Mildly defensive troll snark.


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 10:10 PM

Oh, btw LB, ABB is an acronym for Allman Brothers Band. My bad.


porkchopbob - 12/1/2017 at 10:19 PM

The ancient Greeks held being a good host (Xenia) in high regard, for fear a visitor might be a God in disguise. I never see any reason to hold it against someone that they have not previously wasted their life on a music forum. Unless it is to warn us that DOOM WILL RISE (which would actually be on topic in most WP threads lately).


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 10:25 PM

Lol, I seriously doubt LionBoss is God in disguise, but your point is solid, not all of us have had the high honor of wasting untold hours on utter bullsh*t such as Whipping Posters have.

Here is a welcome to LionBoss!


MartinD28 - 12/1/2017 at 10:26 PM

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The ancient Greeks held being a good host (Xenia) in high regard, for fear a visitor might be a God in disguise. I never see any reason to hold it against someone that they have not previously wasted their life on a music forum. Unless it is to warn us that DOOM WILL RISE (which would actually be on topic in most WP threads lately).


Did you say "Doom"? Calling Gina.


BrerRabbit - 12/1/2017 at 10:39 PM

Yeah, Gina! Tell us more stories about D.O.O.M.

(btw LB that is an acronym for Diabolical Order of Occult Masters, welcome to the MHTP, Mad Hatter's tea party).

[Edited on 12/1/2017 by BrerRabbit]


BIGV - 12/1/2017 at 10:55 PM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


She won the popular vote by over three million.


Thank God and our Forefathers for the Electoral College


Instead of snarky comments, why don't you tell us why Trump was a superior choice. (Hint: He isn't Clinton is not an answer.)


Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?


jkeller - 12/2/2017 at 12:09 AM

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While I've never cared for the Clintons (she lost the election due to her arrogance and hubris), I'd prefer her over our current president.
No she lost due to idiots believing bullsh!t [from trump] about moving jobs back from overseas, making "coal" king, and caring about blue-collar workers, etc.


Or here is another option, too few people (or imbeciles) believed her bullsh!t.


She won the popular vote by over three million.


Thank God and our Forefathers for the Electoral College


Instead of snarky comments, why don't you tell us why Trump was a superior choice. (Hint: He isn't Clinton is not an answer.)


Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?



She ran a poor campaign that did not focus on the issues and allowed herself to get sucked into Trump’s ranting accusations. Russia may have interfered as well.


OK, genius, why would Trump be a better choice than Clinton?

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by jkeller]


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 12:15 AM

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Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?



She ran a poor campaign and allowed herself to get sucked into Trump’s ranting accusations. Russia may have interfered as well.


OK, genius, why would Trump be a better choice than Clinton?


"Genius" Thanks, ....I have no idea, I voted for Gary Johnson because I can not stand the sight of her. That is my reasoning, take it or leave it. And by participating in the process, I get to state my opinion whether you find it valid or not.

Have a great day.


jkeller - 12/2/2017 at 12:52 AM

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Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?



She ran a poor campaign and allowed herself to get sucked into Trump’s ranting accusations. Russia may have interfered as well.


OK, genius, why would Trump be a better choice than Clinton?


"Genius" Thanks, ....I have no idea, I voted for Gary Johnson because I can not stand the sight of her. That is my reasoning, take it or leave it. And by participating in the process, I get to state my opinion whether you find it valid or not.

Have a great day.


Thanks. So you chose a guy who had no idea what Aleppo was and was known to ignore the day to day minutiae of governing while he was Governor of New Mexico. I am glad to see that you felt he was more qualified than Trump.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 01:03 AM

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Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?



She ran a poor campaign and allowed herself to get sucked into Trump’s ranting accusations. Russia may have interfered as well.


OK, genius, why would Trump be a better choice than Clinton?


"Genius" Thanks, ....I have no idea, I voted for Gary Johnson because I can not stand the sight of her. That is my reasoning, take it or leave it. And by participating in the process, I get to state my opinion whether you find it valid or not.

Have a great day.


Thanks. So you chose a guy who had no idea what Aleppo was and was known to ignore the day to day minutiae of governing while he was Governor of New Mexico. I am glad to see that you felt he was more qualified than Trump.


I voted for him because I am a Libertarian, very possibly for the same reason you voted for Hillary.

Have a nice evening.


jkeller - 12/2/2017 at 01:17 AM

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Sweet, coming from the King of "snark". You know everything, tell us how she lost to a Moron?



She ran a poor campaign and allowed herself to get sucked into Trump’s ranting accusations. Russia may have interfered as well.


OK, genius, why would Trump be a better choice than Clinton?


"Genius" Thanks, ....I have no idea, I voted for Gary Johnson because I can not stand the sight of her. That is my reasoning, take it or leave it. And by participating in the process, I get to state my opinion whether you find it valid or not.

Have a great day.


Thanks. So you chose a guy who had no idea what Aleppo was and was known to ignore the day to day minutiae of governing while he was Governor of New Mexico. I am glad to see that you felt he was more qualified than Trump.


I voted for him because I am a Libertarian, very possibly for the same reason you voted for Hillary.

Have a nice evening.


I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.

A Libertarian is a Republican that doesn't have the courage to admit it.

Have a nice evening.


BIGV - 12/2/2017 at 01:23 AM

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A Libertarian is a Republican that doesn't have the courage to admit it.


Disagree.


BrerRabbit - 12/2/2017 at 01:53 AM

The Dems blew it by conniving for Clinton and throwing Sanders in the trash.


Jerry - 12/2/2017 at 02:29 AM

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Hitting The Web ey wow never saw that one coming I bet that is because I have only been to this website a few times I will give you guys credit for knowing that one.


Kind of hard to miss since it's on the top of every page "Hitting The Web With The Allman Brothers Band".

Look at the top of the page above the photo of the band. You know, to the right of the mushroom.

But, welcome, even if I don't agree with you.


LeafontheWind - 12/4/2017 at 03:34 PM

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Hitting The Web ey wow never saw that one coming I bet that is because I have only been to this website a few times I will give you guys credit for knowing that one.

Hey there if it makes you feel better I didn't know what it means either. Welcome fellow newcomer.


KCJimmy - 12/4/2017 at 05:28 PM

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I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.
IDIOT ALERT!


porkchopbob - 12/4/2017 at 06:49 PM

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I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.
IDIOT ALERT!


OH WICKED BURN BRAH!


Jerry - 12/6/2017 at 12:43 AM


I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.


I just have to ask this question: More qualified to do what?


BIGV - 12/7/2017 at 12:20 AM

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I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.


I just have to ask this question: More qualified to do what?


Why, claim how qualified she was...of course!


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 01:38 AM

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I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.


I just have to ask this question: More qualified to do what?


Why, claim how qualified she was...of course!
Blame otther people, cover things up, certainly isn't campaigning.


BrerRabbit - 12/7/2017 at 11:45 PM

Goob is grateful again


2112 - 12/7/2017 at 11:50 PM

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I voted for Hillary because she was vastly more qualified than Trump or anyone else on the ballot.


I just have to ask this question: More qualified to do what?


Why, claim how qualified she was...of course!
Blame otther people, cover things up, certainly isn't campaigning.


You're right for once. That sounds more like Trump's presidency.


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