Thread: Las Vegas motive unknown

OriginalGoober - 10/4/2017 at 11:34 PM

Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:


Ties to ISIS have not been completely ruled out:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-no-idea-if-las-vegas-shooting-was-isis-de spite-expert-doubts-677172

THe more we learn, the more it seems like the bumbling oaf Paddock actually planned out a very meticulous attack.





[Edited on 10/4/2017 by OriginalGoober]

[Edited on 10/4/2017 by OriginalGoober]


jkeller - 10/4/2017 at 11:44 PM

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Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:







Not the same guy. Nice try.


OriginalGoober - 10/5/2017 at 12:53 AM


Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


LUKE - 10/5/2017 at 01:10 AM

quote:
quote:
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?


BoytonBrother - 10/5/2017 at 01:21 AM

No, I don't dig. You couldn't care less but yet you ended your unintelligible rant with your defense of it, LOL.


jkeller - 10/5/2017 at 02:10 AM

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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.


jkeller - 10/5/2017 at 02:11 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.


PhotoRon286 - 10/5/2017 at 12:32 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.


Our resident imbecile doesn't know that the CIA functions only on foreign investigations, the FBI handles in country.

Once he has someone look up what an imbecile is, he'll be back to insult.

Of course he blamed Obama for this.

Some things never change.


porkchopbob - 10/5/2017 at 01:06 PM

Shame on you, Goober. The Anti-Trump rally photo is NOT Paddock. Spreading bullsh1t that you desperately want to be true to is completely irresponsible.

http://www.snopes.com/las-vegas-shooter-trump-protest/


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Was Las Vegas Shooter Identified at an Anti-Trump Protest?
Conspiracy theorists attempted to tie the alleged Las Vegas mass shooter to an anti-Trump protest but offered little evidence to back up the claim.
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The man accused of opening fire on hundreds of people in a Las Vegas casino in October 2017 was spotted at an anti-Trump protest two months earlier.
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ORIGIN

The aftermath of a mass shooting is often a springboard for misinformation as ordinary citizens attempt to do their own investigative work. Such was the case in October 2017 after a gunman shot and killed more than 50 people and injured hundreds more from his hotel room in Las Vegas. When police identified the gunman as a 64-year-old white man with no criminal history or immediately apparent ties to a terrorist organization such as ISIS, some appeared to have a hard time rationalizing how he could commit such a deadly act (though some news reports pointed out that in fact most U.S. mass shootings are committed by white males):

Online conspiracy theorists soon started offering alternative explanations for the shooting. InfoWars host Alex Jones claimed (without evidence) that the event had been “scripted by deep state Democrats and their Islamic allies using mental patient cut-outs.” A fake “Melbourne Antifa” Twitter account (which has no affiliation with a real antifa, or anti-fascist, group) claimed the gunman was a comrade.

Various threads on 4chan and the reddit group r/The_Donald pushed the narrative that he had been spotted at an anti-Trump rally, and thus was a “commie” or “leftist.” This claim was promoted by far-right blogger Pamela Geller in an article offering photographic “proof” that the Las Vegas shooting was an act of “left-wing violence”:


But was the man wearing the iconic pink hats with cat ears in the above photo really the Las Vegas shooter? The evidence supporting this theory is flimsy at best.

First, the claim is largely based on a series of blurry images. As of this writing, only two photographs of the accused gunman have been released. One shows him with his eyes closed, and the other was taken several years prior to the attack in Las Vegas. The still shots of the protester were captured from various videos showing an anti-Trump demonstration in August 2017, and are small, low-resolution, and difficult to see.

Here’s the best comparison we could create of photographs allegedly depicting the same man in these two different contexts:

Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:


Although this individual is also white, middle-aged, and male, there’s no evidence to suggest that he is the same man who committed the shootings.

The claim was also frequently accompanied by two other supporting pieces of “evidence”: A woman can apparently be heard saying “Hi Steve” in one video of the protest (law enforcement officials say the shooter’s first name was “Stephen”), and the gunman “lookalike” can be seen wearing a NASA t-shirt:

Although we’re not positive what the woman actually said in the video (or which woman actually said it), that a man’s first name is “Steve” is not sufficient to identify him as the Las Vegas shooter. In fact, the name “Steve” peaked in popularity in the late 50s and early 60s, when a man of the gunman’s approximate age would have been born.

The fact that this protester was wearing a NASA shirt was deemed noteworthy after internet sleuths uncovered a news article listing someone with the same first and last name as the shooter’s as a member of the NASA team preparing for a Mars mission. Although credible news reports have stated that the gunman once worked for Lockheed Martin, one of NASA’s prime contractors, we have not been able to confirm that he ever held a position at the space agency itself. Regardless, pink NASA t-shirts are not available exclusively to former NASA employees.

The Las Vegas shooter was not positively identified at an anti-Trump protest in August 2017. This theory was based on assumptions, baseless leaps of logic, and little to no evidence. It also pushed a narrative that doesn’t match any information thus far released by the authorities. As of this writing, police, journalists, and the gunman’s family are still trying to figure out his motives. His brother, Eric, said that his sibling had no political or religious affiliations at all:

If you told me an asteroid fell into Earth, it would mean the same to me. There’s absolutely no sense, no reason he did this . . . He’s just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell. There’s no political affiliation that we know of. There’s no religious affiliation that we know of.


adhill58 - 10/5/2017 at 01:46 PM


"Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:"

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Yep. This is pretty pathetic. It is amazing how many people are willing to just float on over to fantasy-land.


adhill58 - 10/5/2017 at 01:47 PM


"Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:"

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Yep. This is pretty pathetic. It is amazing how many people are willing to just float on over to fantasy-land.


porkchopbob - 10/5/2017 at 01:58 PM

We all know Goober's motive in spreading this BS. Pretty obvious. Sad.


goldtop - 10/5/2017 at 02:40 PM

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We all know Goober's motive in spreading this BS. Pretty obvious. Sad.


Not to mention there's all kinds of crazy gun hoarding liberals in Nevada....LOL....Goober obviously doesn't know the demographic of the state of NV


gina - 10/5/2017 at 10:42 PM

What is troubling about this, is that they better find out WHAT the motive was. I read an article that said he had booked another hotel room for later in the month at another country music festival. Another article said that he had planned to escape this current shooting, but apparently when he realized SWAT was on the way, he killed himself to elude capture.

So he wanted to do more than one mass shooting, at two separate country music festivals. WHY country music? WHY two separate country music festivals within the same month? It does not seem like a random shooting anymore.


rmack - 10/6/2017 at 12:25 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




Say it LOUD…I'M ILLITERATE AND I'M PROUD!


adhill58 - 10/6/2017 at 01:28 AM



Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




You lost me. You are supporting government officials' quotes in a paranoid rant about not trusting the government.

I think that is what is going on in there, but only after I found a dyslexic goat who flunked second grade to translate that paragraph.


PhotoRon286 - 10/6/2017 at 01:36 AM

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Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




You lost me. You are supporting government officials' quotes in a paranoid rant about not trusting the government.

I think that is what is going on in there, but only after I found a dyslexic goat who flunked second grade to translate that paragraph.


Bottom line here is luke is a paranoid racist fool that spews his anti-Obama garbage on this site.

Every time he posts this crap he shows how ignorant he is.


OriginalGoober - 10/7/2017 at 02:31 PM


Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/


jkeller - 10/7/2017 at 03:02 PM

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Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/




Look again, Goob. That is a double door and the top half on the left is completely gone.


gina - 10/7/2017 at 05:13 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.


Our resident imbecile doesn't know that the CIA functions only on foreign investigations, the FBI handles in country.

Once he has someone look up what an imbecile is, he'll be back to insult.

Of course he blamed Obama for this.

Some things never change.


In an official capacity the CIA only operates on foreign matters, but we all know, current and former officers as well as operatives have specialized knowledge of guns, weaponry, targeting and assassinating people, when they give their opinions on things they find to be wrong with the official story, those opinions should be considered.

With regards to the FBI, the swamp still needs to be drained, including the crooked FBI officers who told Joe Bellone, NYFDNY to eff off at the 9-11 site when from what he saw, he believed they were taking and hiding evidence. He wrote a book about his experiences that day.



[Edited on 10/7/2017 by gina]


gina - 10/7/2017 at 05:15 PM

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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.


He was a real estate tycoon, made tons of money in it. Might have laundered money for federal agents, made bad investment deals, anything is possible. He could have also just been a patsy or someone that some federal person wanted to frame and assassinate. The question of how did he fire 27 rifles all by himself to kill all those people has not been answered. The question of why it took the police 72 minutes to come to an active shooter situation when they were one mile away needs an answer too. Were they told the stand down?


jkeller - 10/7/2017 at 06:21 PM

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quote:
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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.


He was a real estate tycoon, made tons of money in it. Might have laundered money for federal agents, made bad investment deals, anything is possible. He could have also just been a patsy or someone that some federal person wanted to frame and assassinate. The question of how did he fire 27 rifles all by himself to kill all those people has not been answered. The question of why it took the police 72 minutes to come to an active shooter situation when they were one mile away needs an answer too. Were they told the stand down?


Oh good. More rumors from gina. The police have said repeatedly that they don't know the motive.


gina - 10/7/2017 at 07:04 PM


Maybe this is the motive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html

The new publication now specified that Paddock, who the group dubbed Abu Abdul Barr al-Amriki, had allegedly "converted to Islam six months ago" and provided a play-by-play of Sunday's bloodshed.

"A soldier of the caliphate attacked a gathering of 22,000 Americans at a concert in the city of Las Vegas, resulting in nearly 60 killed and 600 injured, " Al-Naba states, later erroneously stating the death toll at 59, instead of the revised count of 58.

"Brother Abu Abdul Bar stationed himself in a room on the 32nd floor of a hotel overlooking the concert and opened fire continuously on the crowds using 23 firearms and more than 2,000 bullets and died, may God accept him, after running out of ammunition," it added

Remarks: Authorities discount Isis claim, but the thing is Muslims do not go around lieing. The other thing is that he planned on going to Chicago to another concert (per news reports) later in the month and probably doing the same thing. Most mass murderers that we are used to in this country usually do one event and then get shot by the police or shoot themselves, he planned to keep on going doing these shootings.


jkeller - 10/7/2017 at 07:23 PM

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Maybe this is the motive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html

The new publication now specified that Paddock, who the group dubbed Abu Abdul Barr al-Amriki, had allegedly "converted to Islam six months ago" and provided a play-by-play of Sunday's bloodshed.

"A soldier of the caliphate attacked a gathering of 22,000 Americans at a concert in the city of Las Vegas, resulting in nearly 60 killed and 600 injured, " Al-Naba states, later erroneously stating the death toll at 59, instead of the revised count of 58.

"Brother Abu Abdul Bar stationed himself in a room on the 32nd floor of a hotel overlooking the concert and opened fire continuously on the crowds using 23 firearms and more than 2,000 bullets and died, may God accept him, after running out of ammunition," it added

Remarks: Authorities discount Isis claim, but the thing is Muslims do not go around lieing. The other thing is that he planned on going to Chicago to another concert (per news reports) later in the month and probably doing the same thing. Most mass murderers that we are used to in this country usually do one event and then get shot by the police or shoot themselves, he planned to keep on going doing these shootings.




Muslims lie all the time. He had nothing to do with Islam. Are you saying tha5 you know more than the Las Vegas Police? Mor3 than the FBI?


gina - 10/7/2017 at 07:57 PM

No, but there are many articles that have had tidbits. This one shows he was possibly planning on another concerrt a week before that had 50,000 people attending. Since he was targetting musical concerts, unless one of his women ran away with a musician, why would he be targetting concerts? If he was with the Islamic State that would be a reason, because they forbid music.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/las-vegas-shooter-plan-attack-1710050 84545277.html


jkeller - 10/7/2017 at 08:00 PM

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No, but there are many articles that have had tidbits. This one shows he was possibly planning on another concerrt a week before that had 50,000 people attending. Since he was targetting musical concerts, unless one of his women ran away with a musician, why would he be targetting concerts? If he was with the Islamic State that would be a reason, because they forbid music.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/las-vegas-shooter-plan-attack-1710050 84545277.html


Because outdoor concerts were a target of opportunity. He also checked out Fenway Park. Does Islam forbid baseball?


2112 - 10/8/2017 at 09:20 AM

Or maybe he just looked at all his weapons one day and said to himself "why do I have all these guns if I can't use them?" AND realized that he could kill hundreds of people in just a few minutes by firing into a huge crowd such as a concert. May have been nothing more than that.


gina - 10/8/2017 at 11:20 PM

He reportedly hired prostitutes to play out violent rape fantasies, and reportedly was with one prostitute prior to the attack.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/08/vegas-gunman-liked-violent-rape-fantasies-pros titute-says/



gina - 10/10/2017 at 09:24 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnWLYIoHxc

Wow how lucky can Mr. Soros get, he bets 42 million that the stock in the hotel will go down, and then it does after the shooting. What a coincidence?


2112 - 10/10/2017 at 09:50 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnWLYIoHxc

Wow how lucky can Mr. Soros get, he bets 42 million that the stock in the hotel will go down, and then it does after the shooting. What a coincidence?


MGM owns a number of Caribbean properties and cruise lines. Must have forseen the devistation hurricanes would have caused due to global warming, as that was done before the worst of the hurricane season, or do you think Soros is responsible for the hurricanes too?


jkeller - 10/10/2017 at 10:37 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnWLYIoHxc

Wow how lucky can Mr. Soros get, he bets 42 million that the stock in the hotel will go down, and then it does after the shooting. What a coincidence?


MGM owns a number of Caribbean properties and cruise lines. Must have forseen the devistation hurricanes would have caused due to global warming, as that was done before the worst of the hurricane season, or do you think Soros is responsible for the hurricanes too?


Here is a list of MGM properties

All properties are wholly owned by MGM Resorts International except where indicated.
Las Vegas Strip[edit]
Bellagio
Circus Circus Las Vegas
Adventuredome
Slots-A-Fun Casino
CityCenter (50% joint venture with Dubai World)
Aria Resort & Casino
Mandarin Oriental
Vdara
Veer Towers
Excalibur
Luxor
Mandalay Bay
Delano Las Vegas
Mandalay Bay Convention Center
Mandalay Bay Events Center
MGM Grand Las Vegas
MGM Grand Garden Arena
Skylofts at MGM Grand
The Mansion at MGM Grand
The Signature at MGM Grand (50% joint venture with Turnberry Associates)[188]
The Mirage
Monte Carlo
New York-New York
T-Mobile Arena (50% joint venture with AEG)
Las Vegas Festival Grounds (joint venture with Cirque du Soleil and Yucaipa Companies)
Other properties[edit]
Beau Rivage – Biloxi, Mississippi
Borgata – Atlantic City, New Jersey
The Water Club
Gold Strike Casino Resort – Tunica Resorts, Mississippi
Grand Victoria – Elgin, Illinois (50% owned and operated by RBG, LLP, a subsidiary of Hyatt)
MGM Cotai - Cotai Strip (opening 2017)
72 acres (29 ha) of land for the undeveloped MGM Grand Atlantic City
MGM Grand Detroit – Detroit, Michigan (98% owner in partnership with Partners Detroit, L.L.C.)
MGM Grand Sanya – Sanya, Hainan, China
MGM Macau – Macau, China (50% joint venture with Pansy Ho, opened 2007) (51% after IPO)
MGM National Harbor – National Harbor, Maryland (opened December 2016)
MGM Park – Biloxi, Mississippi
MGM Springfield – Springfield, Massachusetts (opening 2018)
Golf Courses[edit]
Shadow Creek Golf Course – North Las Vegas, Nevada
Fallen Oak Golf Course - Saucier, Mississippi
Primm Valley Golf Club – Nipton, California
Subsidiaries[edit]
Diaoyutai MGM Hospitality
MGM HAKKASAN [189]
Projects in the Americas, Middle East, Asia, Abu Dhabi
MGM Resorts Vacations,[190] Milwaukee, Wisconsin


2112 - 10/10/2017 at 10:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnWLYIoHxc

Wow how lucky can Mr. Soros get, he bets 42 million that the stock in the hotel will go down, and then it does after the shooting. What a coincidence?


MGM owns a number of Caribbean properties and cruise lines. Must have forseen the devistation hurricanes would have caused due to global warming, as that was done before the worst of the hurricane season, or do you think Soros is responsible for the hurricanes too?


Here is a list of MGM properties

All properties are wholly owned by MGM Resorts International except where indicated.
Las Vegas Strip[edit]
Bellagio
Circus Circus Las Vegas
Adventuredome
Slots-A-Fun Casino
CityCenter (50% joint venture with Dubai World)
Aria Resort & Casino
Mandarin Oriental
Vdara
Veer Towers
Excalibur
Luxor
Mandalay Bay
Delano Las Vegas
Mandalay Bay Convention Center
Mandalay Bay Events Center
MGM Grand Las Vegas
MGM Grand Garden Arena
Skylofts at MGM Grand
The Mansion at MGM Grand
The Signature at MGM Grand (50% joint venture with Turnberry Associates)[188]
The Mirage
Monte Carlo
New York-New York
T-Mobile Arena (50% joint venture with AEG)
Las Vegas Festival Grounds (joint venture with Cirque du Soleil and Yucaipa Companies)
Other properties[edit]
Beau Rivage – Biloxi, Mississippi
Borgata – Atlantic City, New Jersey
The Water Club
Gold Strike Casino Resort – Tunica Resorts, Mississippi
Grand Victoria – Elgin, Illinois (50% owned and operated by RBG, LLP, a subsidiary of Hyatt)
MGM Cotai - Cotai Strip (opening 2017)
72 acres (29 ha) of land for the undeveloped MGM Grand Atlantic City
MGM Grand Detroit – Detroit, Michigan (98% owner in partnership with Partners Detroit, L.L.C.)
MGM Grand Sanya – Sanya, Hainan, China
MGM Macau – Macau, China (50% joint venture with Pansy Ho, opened 2007) (51% after IPO)
MGM National Harbor – National Harbor, Maryland (opened December 2016)
MGM Park – Biloxi, Mississippi
MGM Springfield – Springfield, Massachusetts (opening 2018)
Golf Courses[edit]
Shadow Creek Golf Course – North Las Vegas, Nevada
Fallen Oak Golf Course - Saucier, Mississippi
Primm Valley Golf Club – Nipton, California
Subsidiaries[edit]
Diaoyutai MGM Hospitality
MGM HAKKASAN [189]
Projects in the Americas, Middle East, Asia, Abu Dhabi
MGM Resorts Vacations,[190] Milwaukee, Wisconsin


I stand corrected. I could have sworn that they had a resort/casino in Puerto Rico and one on Aruba. I also thought they had ownership interest in Royal Caribbean Cruise Line (and therefore other cruise lines that RCCL owns).


OriginalGoober - 10/13/2017 at 05:49 PM

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Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/




Look again, Goob. That is a double door and the top half on the left is completely gone.


So now the story has changed and he unleashed a fury of 200 rounds at one very small part of the door out into the hallway BEFORE firing below. WOuld that mean that other 32 floor guests would be able to precisely nail down his location and its been stated that it took over an hour to get inside. That many rounds in the door it should have been swiss cheese and not very difficult to breech I would think. Things arent adding up.


jkeller - 10/13/2017 at 06:08 PM

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Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/




Look again, Goob. That is a double door and the top half on the left is completely gone.


So now the story has changed and he unleashed a fury of 200 rounds at one very small part of the door out into the hallway BEFORE firing below. WOuld that mean that other 32 floor guests would be able to precisely nail down his location and its been stated that it took over an hour to get inside. That many rounds in the door it should have been swiss cheese and not very difficult to breech I would think. Things arent adding up.


You are right, Goob. The other people on the floor opened their doors and took pictures of the room and posted them on social media as bullets were flying past their heads. And the police took an hour to get there because the casino gave them a comped meal before they went up to the room. I mean, who wants to go into a situation like that on an empty stomach?


OriginalGoober - 10/13/2017 at 06:12 PM


Its also a crock of **** e that he could make millions annually playing video poker machines.

Kudos to the first responders, EMT's, and trauma doctors. Over 500 wounded and maybe only one person succumbed to their injuries since the shooting. That is miraculous.

Jason Aldean is ready to start touring again, which I think is kind of strange, after being so close to the Las Vegas carnage. Nice shirt BTW.




cyclone88 - 10/13/2017 at 07:10 PM

What the hell is wrong with people who make up inflammatory posts?

We don't have enough problems with natural disasters - earthquakes, hurricanes, and wildfires - costing lives, damage, and wreaking havoc in the natural world plus whatever political nightmare we're careening into with nuclear threats, loss of healthcare to an as yet uncalculated number of Americans, and pushing long-time allies and allegiances away?

The pic of the shooter was proven to be fake within hours of its appearance.

No one knows what the shooter's motive was and we're unlikely to find out. A man sitting at a gambling machine 12 hours straight followed by 10 hours of sleep isn't likely to have an agenda beyond the next win. In his free time, he scouted other sites of all types of music. Sounds like his inspiration was the arcade game of shooting ducks.

Give fellow music lovers a break and keep negative rubbish to yourself. Life's hard enough.

And yes, now that I recognize the MO, I'll ignore posts by certain users.


jkeller - 10/14/2017 at 03:37 AM

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Its also a crock of **** e that he could make millions annually playing video poker machines.

Kudos to the first responders, EMT's, and trauma doctors. Over 500 wounded and maybe only one person succumbed to their injuries since the shooting. That is miraculous.

Jason Aldean is ready to start touring again, which I think is kind of strange, after being so close to the Las Vegas carnage. Nice shirt BTW.



Nobody ever said he made millions playing video poker. In fact he lost over $400,000 in 2015. He made his millions in real estate.

I have an idea, Goob. Why don't you get in your teleporter, pick up gina, and go to Las Vegas and straighten out the police and the FBI. Obviously the two of you know more than they do.


OriginalGoober - 10/16/2017 at 11:21 PM

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Its also a crock of **** e that he could make millions annually playing video poker machines.

Kudos to the first responders, EMT's, and trauma doctors. Over 500 wounded and maybe only one person succumbed to their injuries since the shooting. That is miraculous.

Jason Aldean is ready to start touring again, which I think is kind of strange, after being so close to the Las Vegas carnage. Nice shirt BTW.



Nobody ever said he made millions playing video poker. In fact he lost over $400,000 in 2015. He made his millions in real estate.

I have an idea, Goob. Why don't you get in your teleporter, pick up gina, and go to Las Vegas and straighten out the police and the FBI. Obviously the two of you know more than they do.


The title of this thread says "Las Vegas Motive Unknown" and just asking questions regarding the information thats been released in the media and some general observations. Thats it. Not sure what is inflamatory about doing this.


OriginalGoober - 10/16/2017 at 11:30 PM



Hero Jesus Campos vanishes hours before scheduled public debrief:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/16/las-vegas-guard-jesus-campos-vanished- after-visiting-urgent-care-clinic-union-leader-says.html


PhotoRon286 - 10/19/2017 at 12:20 AM

fake news.

He was found in time to appear on Ellen today.


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