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Sang - 8/3/2017 at 12:22 AM

Infowars? LOL


LeglizHemp - 8/3/2017 at 12:59 AM

get your fricken shots....idiocracy


pops42 - 8/3/2017 at 01:10 AM

Public service announcement: If you get your news from info- wars/alex jones, YOU are a DUMMY.


jkeller - 8/3/2017 at 01:55 AM

Another guy who is afraid of everything.


BrerRabbit - 8/3/2017 at 02:29 AM


Am flat out against mandatory vaccination, or any mandatory medicine. Also think folks should choose for themselves the ones they need since the vaccine schedule is out of control, and expanding.

Weird how otherwise liberal people seem to be hard-line on this one.


BrerRabbit - 8/3/2017 at 03:03 AM


There is a third camp on this one. Bad to totally nix vaccines, bad to accept the human pincushion. We did just fine with the few big vaccines, it wasn't so many a few decades ago. At some point you have to decide where to draw the line, as vaccine development and promotion skyrockets.


jkeller - 8/3/2017 at 03:30 AM

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Ya try and pass on good information and the monkeys show up again.

I guess I have to bring out the family photo again. So...who's who...

Sang - since you were first and probably didn't watch to realize Alex Jones wasn't in the interview...you must be the middle one.

LHemp - what else but the first. It's hard to inhale thru your ears.

Last goes to Pops. He's always grandfathered in.






The guy who gets his information from Youtube and infowars is knocking other intelligence. Unreal.


Sang - 8/3/2017 at 04:19 AM

I didn't mention Alex Jones.....so I guess you are the one in the middle......


BrerRabbit - 8/4/2017 at 06:43 AM

Alex used to be knd of hip, seemed like he sold out on this Trump mania.


BoytonBrother - 8/4/2017 at 03:41 PM

Theo, infowars is a garbage fake site for insecure and scared losers, so feel free to call me an ape if that helps you.


Bhawk - 8/4/2017 at 04:22 PM

quote:

Am flat out against mandatory vaccination, or any mandatory medicine. Also think folks should choose for themselves the ones they need since the vaccine schedule is out of control, and expanding.

Weird how otherwise liberal people seem to be hard-line on this one.


No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


pops42 - 8/4/2017 at 06:27 PM

Anyone who doesnt want their kid vaccinated [small pox, polio, etc] is an idiot.


tbomike - 8/4/2017 at 10:46 PM

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Alex used to be knd of hip, seemed like he sold out on this Trump mania.


Was this from when he was " hip"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePLkAm8i2s

Or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WhT9BwpRs

Or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivJGmyNlQuU


BrerRabbit - 8/4/2017 at 11:43 PM

Never mind re Alex Jones, I just happened to agree with him on some things a while ago - but no point in discussing that.

Actually interested in this viewpoint:

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No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


So this indicates that you believe in mandatory vaccination, and all people should be given every vaccination for every disease, including all new vaccines?


LeglizHemp - 8/8/2017 at 12:44 PM

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/07/anti-vaxxer-dog-owners-are-now-putting-thei r-and-your-pets-health-at-risk_partner/

MONDAY, AUG 7, 2017 12:43 PM -0400
Anti-vaxxers are now coming for your dogs
The anti-science crowd has infected a whole new community
KALI HOLLOWAY, ALTERNET

Misinformation can spread like a virus, and can be just as contagious. Anti-vaccination attitudes have now taken hold among some pet owners who are refusing to vaccinate their dogs out of a misguided fear the shots might cause allergic reactions or other illnesses. Veterinarians say canine vaccinations help ward off not only diseases that afflict dogs, but those that can spread from pets to humans. As recent history has shown among anti-vaxxing human adherents, the drop-off in vaccinations could lead to the re-emergence of deadly illnesses that had been nearly eradicated, like rabies.

New York City’s Brooklyn Paper spoke to local veterinarians who said they have seen a recent increase in the number of dog owners who are turning down inoculations for their dogs. Despite numerous study findings proving there’s no link between autism and vaccinations among people, the spillover of misinformation seems to be having consequences for pets.

“We do see a higher number of clients who don’t want to vaccinate their animals,” Dr. Amy Ford, of the Veterinarian Wellness Center of Boerum Hill, told the outlet. “This may be stemming from the anti-vaccine movement, which people are applying to their pets.”

She noted that pet anti-vaccination attitudes appear “much more common in the hipster-y areas” of town, which sounds about right, and suggests that someone should take a poll of veterinarians in Portland and Austin. “I really don’t know what the reasoning is,” Ford added, “they just feel that injecting chemicals into their pet is going to cause problems.”

Two years ago, New York Magazine pointed to a 2014 Texas outbreak of canine distemper as possible evidence of anti-vaxxing pet owners. The disease, which was a serious health threat to dogs before a vaccine was developed in 1929, had been nearly wiped out thanks to preventative medicines. Suddenly, veterinarians reported it had come roaring back, with some 200 new cases.

“The fewer animals that are getting the vaccine, the greater the likelihood that you’re going to have a firestorm if something that is that highly communicable comes along,” Christopher Brockett, then president of the New York Veterinary Medical Society, told the publication. Brockett said he had “definitely” noticed greater numbers of clients foregoing vaccinations for their pets.


BrerRabbit - 8/8/2017 at 03:23 PM

This article seems to jump to conclusions.

The population of strays, who are are in bad shape with compromised immunity and are in circulation and contact, fighting and f*cking and all, would seem to dwarf the threat from the small minority of healthy, well-cared for, confined animals in "the hipster-y areas of town."

That said, distemper and rabies are no brainer obvious vaccines. Especially for zoonotic diseases, like rabies. I got vaccinated for rabies as a child when I was living in Sudan. Good thing too, lots of stray dogs and cats, got bit and scratched .

How many folks here have their rabies shots?

None, I bet.


Bhawk - 8/8/2017 at 05:35 PM

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Never mind re Alex Jones, I just happened to agree with him on some things a while ago - but no point in discussing that.

Actually interested in this viewpoint:

quote:
No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


So this indicates that you believe in mandatory vaccination, and all people should be given every vaccination for every disease, including all new vaccines?



No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


gina - 8/8/2017 at 06:10 PM

BUILD THE WALL, stop immigrants being diseases from third world countries into the US, then people will need less vaccines because we had already eliminated polio, now the children have to be vaccinated against meningitis, because of the Mexican/latino children coming to the US.


BrerRabbit - 8/9/2017 at 07:03 AM

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No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


Sarcasm noted. Will regard this as a yes you support mandatory vaccination.

Are you up to date on all vaccines?


Bhawk - 8/9/2017 at 02:08 PM

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quote:
No, all diseases that are preventable should be allowed to spread and infect as many people as possible.


Sarcasm noted. Will regard this as a yes you support mandatory vaccination.

Are you up to date on all vaccines?


Neither a yes or a no. It's a statement. I support mandating nothing.

I'm not sure. Which vaccines should I or should I not be up to date on?


BrerRabbit - 8/9/2017 at 05:04 PM

So . . . you don't support mandatory vaccination? If not then good. Neither do I. In that case you can weigh the info and decide for yourself which vaccines you may or may not need. You seem to support an educated public, common sense and judicious use of vaccines I do too. Polio and smallpox were battled just fine without government coercion.

So not really seeing your problem with my post that you quoted and sarcastically sniped at. Other than you take issue with a definite stand on the matter, since you won't commit to a yes or no re mandatory vaccination?

If you do support mandatory vaccinations then report to the clinic for whatever the CDC has decided you need. I am sure there are plenty of shots that the CDC would like you to have that you don't feel you need. And lots more on the way.

It should be obvious to anyone who has really looked into this matter that the vaccine schedule has skyrocketed, and will keep expanding. Gotta draw the line somewhere.



[Edited on 8/9/2017 by BrerRabbit]


Sang - 8/9/2017 at 11:40 PM

How about drawing it at public safety?


Bhawk - 8/10/2017 at 04:49 PM

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So . . . you don't support mandatory vaccination? If not then good. Neither do I. In that case you can weigh the info and decide for yourself which vaccines you may or may not need. You seem to support an educated public, common sense and judicious use of vaccines I do too. Polio and smallpox were battled just fine without government coercion.

So not really seeing your problem with my post that you quoted and sarcastically sniped at. Other than you take issue with a definite stand on the matter, since you won't commit to a yes or no re mandatory vaccination?

If you do support mandatory vaccinations then report to the clinic for whatever the CDC has decided you need. I am sure there are plenty of shots that the CDC would like you to have that you don't feel you need. And lots more on the way.

It should be obvious to anyone who has really looked into this matter that the vaccine schedule has skyrocketed, and will keep expanding. Gotta draw the line somewhere.




There are currently no Federal laws that mandate vaccinations of any kind. Some states require vaccinations as a requirement for attending public schools, but there are numerous exemptions and people can homeschool their kids as well.

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I am sure there are plenty of shots that the CDC would like you to have that you don't feel you need.


I do not have the same amount of clinical knowledge that the people that work at the CDC or Emory University have. I cannot learn from the University of Google what exactly I "do or don't need."

The dismissive wave of "so go report for vaccines then" is equal to my dismissive wave of "let all diseases flourish then."

I do not see the level of the conspiratorial sinister in this that others do. I do not understand why people are so eager for diseases to spread again.


kevdab - 8/10/2017 at 05:58 PM

Get your kids vaccinated. If not, you can't send your kids to public schools. Don't allow them to play organized sports either.
I don't know which ones we need or not. I do know that I wouldn't have put my son at risk by not having him get what was required. Common sense man...


BrerRabbit - 8/10/2017 at 07:32 PM

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The dismissive wave of "so go report for vaccines then" is equal to my dismissive wave of "let all diseases flourish then."


Yes, it was equally.sarcastic.

I am not anti-vaccination. Am simply against any kind of mandatory medical treatment.

[Edited on 8/10/2017 by BrerRabbit]


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