Thread: College Football 2017

nebish - 5/26/2017 at 12:23 AM

South Point in Las Vegas released opening week lines today.

92 days.

The South Point’s opening lines (home team in CAPS):

Saturday, Aug. 26

COLORADO STATE -2 Oregon State
Hawaii -1 MASSACHUSETTS
South Florida -25 SAN JOSE STATE
Stanford -38 Rice @Sydney, Australia

Thursday, Aug. 31

Ohio State -21 INDIANA
MINNESOTA -31 Buffalo
MEMPHIS -23 Louisiana-Monroe
ARIZONA STATE -26 New Mexico State

Friday, Sept. 1

EASTERN MICHIGAN -12.5 Charlotte
Washington -33 RUTGERS
Navy -21 FLORIDA ATLANTIC
WISCONSIN -37 Utah State
NORTHERN ILLINOIS -2 Boston College
Colorado Off Colorado State @Denver

Saturday, Sept. 2

MICHIGAN STATE -18 Bowling Green
IOWA -11.5 Wyoming
Miami (Ohio) -8.5 MARSHALL
CLEMSON -40 Kent State
Massachusetts Off COASTAL CAROLINA
PENN STATE -39 Akron
Louisville -27 Purdue @Indianapolis
NEBRASKA -19 Arkansas State
CENTRAL FLORIDA -21 Florida International
NORTHWESTERN -28 Nevada
ILLINOIS -11 Ball State
OKLAHOMA -48 Texas-El Paso
NORTH CAROLINA -14 California
MISSISSIPPI -22.5 South Alabama
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA -19 Western Michigan
Louisiana State -8 Brigham Young @Houston
TEXAS -23 Maryland
NOTRE DAME -11 Temple
AUBURN -36 Georgia Southern
GEORGIA -11 Appalachian State
Kentucky -13.5 SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
Houston -17 TEXAS-SAN ANTONIO
North Carolina State -8 South Carolina @Charlotte
OKLAHOMA STATE -10 Tulsa
Michigan -3 Florida @Arlington, Texas
Vanderbilt -10.5 MIDDLE TENNESSEE
Alabama -4 Florida State @Atlanta
BOISE STATE -5 Troy

Sunday, Sept. 3
Virginia Tech -5 West Virginia @Landover, Md.
UCLA -4 Texas A&M

Monday, Sept. 4
Tennessee -3 Georgia Tech @Atlanta


Bhawk - 5/26/2017 at 12:29 PM

Man, after all those incredible opening weekend matchups last year, was hoping that was the start of a trend. This year is a throwback to the powerhouses blowing out cupcakes tradition of the 70s and 80s.


nebish - 5/26/2017 at 12:54 PM

I may have to pick up a preview magazine or two! The bible Phil Steele book is still a few weeks out.

Do you get to any games Jerry?


leafsfan - 5/30/2017 at 11:25 PM

What no line on Oregon vs Southern Utah State ?

I am hoping to get to Nebraska at Oregon. A large number of my wife's family moved out from Nebraska to work in the Portland Shipyards before and during the war. Hoping a bunch of us head down to Eugene for the game.

Also looking at Oregon at Huskies in Seattle in November. Going to be the return of the QUACK!!!!


nebish - 5/31/2017 at 05:17 PM

Awesome.

That new Burger King commercial is using that 'return of the mack' song and of course I immediately thought of 'return of the quack'!

Let Them Rise!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1n6riBX1cU


nebish - 5/31/2017 at 05:28 PM

People who know what they want can get some really good value betting those early opening lines.

Boise was -5 and is now -11.5.

I think that Oregon St - Colorado St game August 26th is pretty good, looking forward to that. Very weird they have some of those odd ball games a week before the full season starts.


nebish - 6/1/2017 at 01:59 PM

This is pretty cool.

New stadium in Fort Collins. Live construction images and some time lapse videos:


http://stadium.colostate.edu/constructioncam/#

Stadium opens with the Oregon State Beavers come into town August 26 to face the CSU Rams.

Oregon State started to climb off the mat last season, slightly exceeding expectations going 4-8 with two loses by 5 pts or fewer with the emergence of 'the Wrecking Nall'. It is still going to be tough for them to make a bowl this season, this opener is a key game towards that 6 win threshold.

Colorado St on the other hand could've flirted with an unbeaten season this year if it wasn't for a pesky trip to T-town Sept 16th. This team should be good enough to challenge Boise for the Mountain Division and they get the Broncos at home Nov 11th.


nebish - 6/1/2017 at 02:44 PM

Once being a Nebraska football fan, I wasn't particularly fond of Bill Snyder in the 1990s, but over the years my respect for him has really grown as I put everything into perspective. He turns 78 this year and will be on the sidelines again for K State despite battling throat cancer.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2017/05/08/bill-snyder-ka nsas-state-football-coach-cancer/101403506/


nebish - 6/14/2017 at 02:07 AM

After 18 seasons at Oklahoma, Bob Stoops suddenly and surprising retires!

From last week:

quote:

http://newsok.com/article/5551964

Bob Stoops, one of the three coaching giants of Oklahoma’s century-long football excellence, plans to tell his team Wednesday that he will retire after 18 seasons as the Sooner head coach.

An OU source said offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley will take over as head coach.

It is expected that Stoops will remain with the university in some capacity.

Riley, 33, a native of Muleshoe, Texas, has been at OU for two seasons.

“Great young coach, the program’s in great shape,” the source said. “Good recruiting class. Got a great young coach that anybody would want to have, ready to go. He’s as good a coach as there in America, at this stage in his career.

“And Bob got to do it in his way. Doesn’t get any better than that.”

Stoops, 56, coached the Sooners to the 2000 national champion and three other national title games. His 18-year record is 190-48. The Sooners won nine outright Big 12 titles under Stoops and tied for another.

Stoops was hired on Dec. 1, 1998, after five straight non-winning seasons. His first OU team went 7-5. His next five Sooner teams combined to go 60-7, and a new golden age of Sooner football was born.

Stoops released a statement around 3 p.m. on Wednesday:

“After 18 years at the University of Oklahoma, I've decided to step down as the head football coach. I understand there has been some speculation about my health. My health was not the deciding factor in this decision and I've had no incidents that would prevent me from coaching. I feel the timing is perfect to hand over the reins. The program is in tremendous shape. We have outstanding players and coaches and are poised to make another run at a Big 12 and national championship. We have new state-of-the-art facilities and a great start on next year's recruiting class. The time is now because Lincoln Riley will provide a seamless transition as the new head coach, capitalizing on an excellent staff that is already in place and providing familiarity and confidence for our players. Now is simply the ideal time for me and our program to make this transition.

“The Bible says, "To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven." I'm grateful for this season of my life, and feel I've fulfilled my purpose here at OU as its head football coach.

“I'm thankful that my career at Oklahoma was marked with consistent leadership in President David Boren and Director of Athletics Joe Castiglione. It's extremely rare in college athletics to have no change in these leadership positions over a nearly 20-year span. I always appreciated the way both of them supported me and our program. They both played an enormous role in all our successes.

“I have been very fortunate to have such outstanding coaches in my time at OU. Our players have always benefitted from their strong leadership, on and off the field. I was also blessed with a strong support staff — strength and conditioning, equipment, sports medicine, academics, video — every aspect of our program was staffed with very talented people who took a great deal of pride in making Oklahoma football the best.

“I'm especially thankful for being able to coach so many talented young men over my 18 years here. It has been so rewarding to see these players come to OU and mature over a four or five-year career, and not just on the field. To play a small part in their growth is what I will always cherish the most.
None of my success would have happened without the best fans in the country. I can't tell you how much I appreciated the 110 consecutive home sellouts. The passion of our fan base is unmatched, and their support has played a huge role in not only home games, but road games and all 18 of our bowl games, as well.

“Lastly, I'd like to thank my wife, Carol, and my daughter, Mackie, and my sons, Drake and Isaac. They have been a major part of this success. Being the wife or child of a coach is often tough, and they've all been strong through both good times and challenging times.

“The coaching life is like a relay race and I'm thankful for my turn and am confident as I pass the baton. Carol and I intend on staying in Norman — it is our home. I will be available to Coach Riley and the athletic department in any manner. Thank you all for a lifetime of memories we shared together of 10 conference championships, the 2000 national championship, strong relationships with players and coaches, and the great Oklahoma football fans. Boomer!”

STATEMENT FROM LINCOLN RILEY:

"I'm sincerely honored to be given this opportunity to be the head football coach at the University of Oklahoma. I want to thank Coach Stoops for bringing me here two years ago and making me part of the Sooner family. He is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game, at any level. I'm absolutely thankful for our friendship and for the mentorship he has provided.

"Coaching at Oklahoma is a dream come true for me and my family. I am extremely grateful to President Boren, Joe Castiglione, Chairman Bennett and the OU Board of Regents for believing in me and affording me this opportunity. I look forward to continuing the tradition of excellence that Coach Stoops and so many others before him have instilled in this great program."

STATEMENT FROM OU PRESIDENT DAVID BOREN

"It was with sadness that I learned of the decision of Coach Bob Stoops to step down as head football coach at Oklahoma. Coach Stoops has made a critically important and lasting contribution to the OU football program. He has led to its restoration as one of the top programs in the nation. His success has helped provide the momentum for major new facilities like the improvements and expansion of the football stadium. Because of his unquestioned personal integrity and high standards, he is one of the most admired college football coaches in America.

"His decision to step down at this time was motivated partly by his belief that he has the right successor already in place in the program, Lincoln Riley, and he wanted to pass the leadership on at a time of strength for the program. His decision is typical of his unselfishness and always putting first the best interest of the players and program.

"I personally value him as a person and as a friend. I'm glad that Coach Stoops will remain an active member of our university family and will continue to serve the athletics department and be of help to our new head coach. The departure of Coach Stoops as head coach is a bittersweet time. I agree completely that we have exactly the right person already in place to take the helm. Coach Riley enjoys the complete confidence of the administration and university community. He has the talent and personal character to be a worthy successor to Coach Stoops."

STATEMENT FROM OU VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS JOE CASTIGLIONE:

"It is rare in today's world that a president, athletics director and head football coach can work together for 18 successful seasons. Bob Stoops stands as one of the premier legendary figures in one of the most storied programs in college football history, yet he is still best identified by his humble nature and team approach that refused to get caught up in stature. That's the reason Bob is such a great leader. He has great vision and great accomplishment, but it never changed who he is as a man and a coach.

"Working alongside him has been one of the most enjoyable aspects of my job. Few athletics directors get a coach who better combines success and cohesiveness like Bob Stoops. I can't help but feel somewhat sad today because Bob has been such a constant in my life, and that's why I am so thankful that he will remain with us. He will continue to do great things for OU.

"At the same time, I am thrilled that Lincoln Riley is in position to take over as the head coach. He is widely regarded as one of the brightest minds in college football and there is no question in my mind that he is the complete package. Our program is in very good hands. Lincoln and I have a great relationship and I can't wait to embark on this new era with him. I am sure our fans share my enthusiasm. We celebrate a tremendous legacy today and because of what Bob did here and the coach we have identified, we look forward to our future with great optimism."

STATEMENT FROM CHAIRMAN OF THE OU BOARD OF REGENTS CLAYTON BENNETT:

"On behalf of the Board of Regents, I would like to express my heartfelt gratitude to Bob Stoops for what he has done for the football program at the University of Oklahoma and just as importantly, the school and state at large. From the moment he stepped on campus, Bob has led with dignity and professionalism that is justly admired throughout sports. During his time at Oklahoma he not only built upon our tradition, but moved it forward in a way that has made Sooners everywhere proud. I wish Bob, Carol and their family the best of luck with the next chapter, we are forever thankful for the contributions they have made to Oklahoma.

"Lincoln Riley has asserted himself as one of the brightest young minds in all of college football, and the results over the past two seasons as offensive coordinator for the Sooners speak for themselves. He has embraced the culture of being an Oklahoma Sooner, and I'm looking forward to watching him on the sidelines this coming fall as he leads our team. I want to congratulate Lincoln, Caitlin and their family on this exciting time."

This story will be updated.


Bhawk - 6/14/2017 at 02:32 PM

Incredible run as coach. Whether or not he's actually leaving on his own terms is the kind of stuff only insiders know, but the administration has been quite cooperative to make it appear so.


Dannyspell - 6/14/2017 at 04:11 PM

When he was Spurrier's DC at Florida you could tell he was going to be a winner...


Dannyspell - 6/14/2017 at 04:29 PM


nebish - 6/15/2017 at 02:22 AM

Bob Stoops, played for a legend (Hayden Fry), coached for two legends (Spurrier and Snyder) and became his own legend.

Big game Bob did tarnish a little towards the end here, but you can't win them all.

An incredible coach with an incredible resume. Let's not forget where OU was when he took over and he had them winning the national title in his 2nd year and remaining nationally relevant for nearly the next two decades. Plus he's from Youngstown Ohio!


nebish - 6/15/2017 at 02:26 AM

What is it 73 days until game 1 kicks!


Lee - 6/15/2017 at 12:40 PM

quote:
Bob Stoops, played for a legend (Hayden Fry), coached for two legends (Spurrier and Snyder) and became his own legend.

Big game Bob did tarnish a little towards the end here, but you can't win them all.

An incredible coach with an incredible resume. Let's not forget where OU was when he took over and he had them winning the national title in his 2nd year and remaining nationally relevant for nearly the next two decades. Plus he's from Youngstown Ohio!



There's an article in today's Chicago Tribune about Stoops recently buying a new home in The Gold Coast here (nice, expensive area). So some are speculating he is angling for the Bears job. I don't know why he would want to do that. They are one of the worst run organizations in all of sports.


nebish - 6/25/2017 at 05:27 PM

Regular Season Over/Under win totals (conference title and bowl games do not count towards the total)

From South Point Casino as of June 4th

Air Force - 5
Akron - 5.5
Alabama - 10.5
Appalachian State - 9.5
Arizona - 4.5
Arizona State - 5
Arkansas - 6
Arkansas State - 7.5
Army - 8
Auburn - 9
Ball State - 4
Baylor - 8
Boise State - 8
Boston College - 4
Bowling Green - 4
Buffalo - 3.5
BYU - 10
California - 3.5
Central Florida - 7.5
Central Michigan - 7
Charlotte - 4
Cincinnati - 5
Clemson - 9.5
Coastal Carolina - 5.5
Colorado - 7.5
Colorado State - 7.5
Connecticut - 4
Duke - 4.5
East Carolina - 2.5
Eastern Michigan - 4.5
Florida International - 4.5
Florida - 8
Florida Atlantic - 4
Florida State - 9.5
Fresno State - 4
Georgia - 9
Georgia Southern - 5
Georgia State - 6
Georgia Tech - 6
Hawaii - 4
Houston - 8.5
Idaho - 4.5
Illinois - 3.5
Indiana - 6.5
Iowa - 7
Iowa State - 5.5
Kansas - 2.5
Kansas State - 7.5
Kent State - 3.5
Kentucky - 7
Louisiana Tech - 9
Louisville - 9.5
LSU - 9
Louisiana-Lafayette - 5
Louisiana-Monroe - 3.5
Marshall - 5
Maryland - 3
Massachusetts - 2.5
Memphis - 8.5
Miami, Fl. - 9
Miami Ohio - 8
Michigan - 8.5
Michigan State - 5
Middle Tennessee State - 7.5
Minnesota - 7.5
Mississippi - 5.5
Mississippi State - 5
Missouri - 6
Navy - 7
North Carolina State - 6.5
Nebraska - 7
Nevada - 3.5
New Mexico - 5.5
New Mexico State - 3.5
North Carolina - 7
North Texas - 4
Northern Illinois - 6
Northwestern - 8.5
Notre Dame - 7.5
Ohio - 7.5
Ohio State - 10.5
Oklahoma - 10
Oklahoma State - 9
Old Dominion - 6.5
Oregon - 7.5
Oregon State - 5.5
Penn State - 10
Pittsburgh - 6.5
Purdue - 2.5
Rice - 3.5
Rutgers - 3
San Diego State - 9.5
San Jose State - 3.5
SMU - 5
South Alabama - 4
South Carolina - 5
South Florida - 10
Southern Miss - 7.5
Stanford - 9
Syracuse - 4
TCU - 8
Temple - 7
Tennessee - 7.5
Texas - 7.5
Texas A&M - 7.5
Texas San Antonio - 6.5
Texas State - 2.5
Texas Tech - 4.5
Toledo - 8.5
Troy - 8.5
Tulane - 4.5
Tulsa - 7.5
UAB - 2.5
UCLA - 7
UNLV - 5.5
USC - 10
Utah - 5.5
Utah State - 4.5
UTEP - 2.5
Vanderbilt - 6
Virginia - 5.5
Virginia Tech - 8.5
Wake Forest - 5.5
Washington - 10
Washington State - 7
West Virginia - 6
Western Kentucky - 9.5
Western Michigan - 9
Wisconsin - 10.5
Wyoming - 8

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/1862059


nebish - 6/25/2017 at 05:29 PM

62 days


DeadMallard - 6/27/2017 at 04:42 AM

quote:
What no line on Oregon vs Southern Utah State ?

I am hoping to get to Nebraska at Oregon. A large number of my wife's family moved out from Nebraska to work in the Portland Shipyards before and during the war. Hoping a bunch of us head down to Eugene for the game.

Also looking at Oregon at Huskies in Seattle in November. Going to be the return of the QUACK!!!!



Phil's still trying to buy you that elusive natty. Half a billion & counting. The guy needs to step it up since he's not getting any younger.


leafsfan - 6/27/2017 at 05:49 PM

quote:

posted on 6/26/2017 at 23:42
quote:
What no line on Oregon vs Southern Utah State ?

I am hoping to get to Nebraska at Oregon. A large number of my wife's family moved out from Nebraska to work in the Portland Shipyards before and during the war. Hoping a bunch of us head down to Eugene for the game.

Also looking at Oregon at Huskies in Seattle in November. Going to be the return of the QUACK!!!!


Phil's still trying to buy you that elusive natty. Half a billion & counting. The guy needs to step it up since he's not getting any younger.


Alabama, Ohio and going to Italy to practice Michigan have never attempted to buy a championship?


nebish - 7/7/2017 at 11:10 PM

Just 7 weeks!

ACC Atlantic Winner
Florida State -145
Clemson +260
Louisville +475
NC State +1400
Syracuse +3500
Wake Forest +4000
Boston College +4000

ACC Coastal Winner
Miami Florida +165
Virginia Tech +260
Georgia Tech +525
Pittsburgh +550
North Carolina +650
Duke +1100
Virginia

ACC Champion
Clemson +460
Miami Florida +675
Louisville +850
Virginia Tech +1200
NC State +3000
Georgia Tech +3200
Pittsburgh +3400
North Carolina +4200
Duke +8500
Syracuse +14000
Wake Forest +17500
Boston College +17500
Virginia +17500

American Athletic Champion
South Florida -130
Houston +575
Memphis +575
Tulsa +900
Navy +1300
Temple +2200
Central Florida +2500
SMU +2800
Cincinnati +3300
Tulane +6600
East Carolina +12000
Connecticut +15000

Big 12 Champion
Oklahoma -110
Oklahoma State +375
TCU +1100
Texas +1100
Kansas State +1100
West Virginia +1900
Baylor +2700
Texas Tech +11500
Iowa State +14000
Kansas +30000

Big 12 Reach Championship Game
Oklahoma -270
Oklahoma State +150
TCU +300
Texas +300
Kansas State +300
West Virginia +515
Baylor +675
Texas Tech +2300
Iowa State +2600
Kansas +4400

Big XII has a conference title game, but without divisions, just the two top teams play.

Big Ten East Winner
Ohio State -160
Penn State +335
Michigan +365
Michigan State +1800
Indiana +3800
Maryland +4200
Rutgers +9500

Big Ten West Winner
Wisconsin -115
Nebraska +425
Northwestern +425
Iowa +700
Minnesota +700
Illinois +2500
Purdue +2700

Big Ten Champion
Ohio State +125
Wisconsin +425
Penn State +595
Michigan +595
Nebraska +2200
Northwestern +2200
Iowa +3500
Minnesota +3500
Michigan State +3500
Indiana +9500
Maryland +11500
Illinois +17500
Purdue +19000
Rutgers +32500

Conference USA Champion
Western Kentucky +190
Louisiana Tech +475
Middle Tennessee +800
Southern Miss +800
UTSA +800
Old Dominion +900
Florida Atlantic +1000
Marshall +1100
Florida International +2800
Rice +3000
North Texas +3200
Charlotte +14000
UAB +14000
UTEP +14000

Mid-American Champion
Toledo +210
Western Michigan +270
Miami Ohio +550
Ohio +550
Northern Illinois +1100
Central Michigan +1300
Akron +1400
Eastern Michigan +1500
Bowling Green +3300
Ball State +5500
Kent State +8500
Buffalo +11500

Mountain West Champion
San Diego State +100
Boise State +325
Colorado State +400
Wyoming +1200
Air Force +2500
New Mexico +2500
Utah State +3200
Hawaii +3500
Nevada +3500
UNLV +4000
San Jose State +5000
Fresno State +6600

Pac-12 North Winner
Washington +115
Stanford +290
Oregon +410
Washington State +410
Oregon State +2500
California +3200

Pac-12 South Winner
USC -290
UCLA +475
Utah +850
Colorado +850
Arizona State +1800
Arizona +2800

Pac-12 Champion
USC +115
Washington +300
Stanford +975
Washington State +1300
Oregon +1300
UCLA +1300
Utah +1700
Colorado +2500
Arizona State +6000
Arizona +10000
Oregon State +10000
California +12500

SEC East Winner
Georgia +145
Florida +160
Tennessee +345
Kentucky +1800
South Carolina +1800
Missouri +2900
Vanderbilt +2900

SEC West Winner
Alabama -280
LSU +475
Auburn +485
Texas A&M +2800
Arkansas +4000
Mississippi State +5500

SEC Champion
Alabama -165
LSU +700
Auburn +725
Georgia +1000
Florida +1150
Tennessee +2400
Texas A&M +5500
Arkansas +8500
Mississippi State +13000
South Carolina +13000
Kentucky +13000
Missouri +25000
Vanderbilt +25000

Sun Belt Champion
Appalachian State +130
Arkansas State +325
Troy +340
UL Lafayette +1400
Georgia Southern +1400
Idaho +1700
New Mexico State +2000
South Alabama +2000
UL Monroe +4500
Georgia State +4500
Coastal Carolina +11500
Texas State +17500

[Edited on 7/8/2017 by nebish]


Lee - 7/8/2017 at 12:20 PM

I took Michigan under 9 (and I am a die hard Michigan fan). I don't see them winning 10 so if they win 9 I would just push.

I was going to take the under on Wisconsin but their schedule is a joke so I didn't. They should win The Big Ten running away.


Dannyspell - 7/9/2017 at 11:05 AM

I haven't had a chance to really study opening week schedule but 2 games really jumped out to me. Alabama-Florida State and Florida-Michigan..


Dannyspell - 7/9/2017 at 11:09 AM

Not sure if Florida has yet found an offense though..


nebish - 7/10/2017 at 03:48 PM

10.5 is a crazy total on Wisconsin though. So funny because last year everyone was selling the Badgers and I think their win total was down to maybe 7 or 7.5 at one point because the schedule was believed to be so tough.

5 dimes has them at 9.5 over -200 and under +170 currently.

Not sure what price would be on under 10.5, but all you need is for them to drop 2 games...

at BYU? (BYU only lost to UCLA, Utah and WVa by combined 7 pts and beat Mich St and Mississippi State)

vs Northwestern (NW won '14 and '15)

at Nebraska? (Wisc won in OT last year and by just 2 in '15)

home vs Maryland? (not as likely, however I personally am a little high on Terps this year)

at Indiana? (Badgers normally dominate series, but IU has been playing the 'big boys' tough last 2 years and they haven't played last few years since IU has gotten kinda good )

Iowa? (I like Stanley stepping in at QB for Hawks think Iowa might be better than people think)

home vs Michigan?

I think Wisconsin will have a good team as always, but at the same time they could definitely lose 2 or 3 of those games. Not sure they are head-and-shoulders above any of those to assume they can't drop a few. I'm always looking for upsets!

[Edited on 7/10/2017 by nebish]


nebish - 7/10/2017 at 03:57 PM

quote:
I haven't had a chance to really study opening week schedule but 2 games really jumped out to me. Alabama-Florida State and Florida-Michigan..

quote:
Not sure if Florida has yet found an offense though..


So many story lines in that FSU-Bama game. Just wish it could be a home-and-home series instead of a one-off.

Saban vs Jimbo, Hurts vs Francois, can FSU pass protect after getting murdered at OL last year?, who will rush passer for Bama? Is FR RB Akers as good as hyped?, what will Bama O look like post-Kiffin...

Pretty anxious to see Florida's offense as well. So much wasted potential for that Gators on O the last several years...and McElwain is an O guy. They get Malik Zaire transfering in from ND...will they know how to use him, game 1 what will his efficiency and comfort be in the O?

I actually think that Michigan's D will be very good still, even with the loss of so many guys. Front 7 appears to still be a strength, we just don't know all their names yet, production will follow. The secondary is a bigger concern, but vs a normally anemic Gator O might not matter, or will it this year?


nebish - 7/19/2017 at 02:16 PM

Little IAA / FCS info...atleast shows who some think are going to be good and a preview of some potential FCS wins over FBS teams.

FCS Champion Odds -
North Dakota State +175
James Madison +250
Sam Houston State +700
South Dakota State +1000
Jacksonville State +1400
Richmond +1700
Villanova +2000
Wofford +2000
Eastern Washington +2000
North Dakota +3850
Youngstown State +4000
Northern Iowa +4500
Central Arkansas +4500
Charleston Southern +5000
Chattanooga +5000
The Citadel +5000
New Hampshire +5500
Samford +5500
Illinois State +5500
Western Illinois +6600
Lehigh +7500
South Dakota +8000


quote:

FCS vs. FBS: 5 Winnable Games and 5 Possible Upsets in 2017

Sam Herder
@TheHerd215

Last Updated - Jul 18, 2017 06:17

The 2017 college football season features 98 FCS vs. FBS games. It's always fun to see the two Division I subdivisions square off, especially when the FCS teams come out on top.

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With 22 less scholarships, any FCS win should be considered an upset. But it's become clear that the top 10-15 FCS teams are superior to the bottom half of the FBS. Last season, 10 FCS teams notched wins over FBS opponents, highlighted by North Dakota State's 23-21 win at No. 11 Iowa.

The 2013 season saw a record 16 FCS vs. FBS wins. NDSU took down the defending Big 12 champions Kansas State, Eastern Washington defeated No. 25 Oregon State and Georgia Southern, who was transitioning to the FBS and ineligible for the FCS playoffs, went to Florida and won 26-20 in the regular season finale.

The FCS has a chance to reach double-digit wins again this season against the "big boys." Here are the five most winnable games and the five biggest possible upsets.


Five most winnable games

Eastern Washington @ Texas Tech (Sept. 2) – The Eagles have defeated FBS opponents two times since 2013 while coming within a touchdown in others. They'll have big holes to fill at receiver, but Gage Gubrud can shred any defense with his arm. Texas Tech went 5-7 last season and lose quarterback Patrick Mahomes II, who was drafted No. 10 overall, and top receiver Jonathan Giles, who transferred to LSU. The Red Raiders allowed 43.5 points per game and 315.8 passing yards per game in 2016.

Youngstown State @ Pittsburgh (Sept. 2) – Bo Pelini probably licks his chops when it comes to playing FBS opponents. His Penguins narrowly lost 45-37 to Pittsburgh in his first season as head coach in 2015. Now with players to fit his system, Pelini has skyrocketed the YSU program and made the FCS title game last season. Pittsburgh loses its starting quarterback, top running back and three of its top five tacklers after an 8-5 season.

Northern Iowa @ Iowa State (Sept. 2) – Can someone politely poke their head into the Iowa State athletic department offices and ask why they continue to schedule Missouri Valley Football Conference opponents? Actually, for the sake of the FCS, don't. The Cyclones have lost to MVFC opponents three times since 2013. Two of those came against UNI. They play the 2016 Valley co-champs South Dakota State in 2018, UNI again in 2019 and South Dakota in 2020. The Panthers look to get back to the playoffs this season while Iowa State is coming off back-to-back 3-9 seasons.

South Dakota @ Bowling Green (Sept. 9) – Bowling Green narrowly escaped with a 27-26 win against North Dakota last year in a 4-8 season. The Falcons lose 1,000-yard running back Fred Coppet, but should have an improved passing game. They gave up 38.3 points per game in 2016 and will be without Trenton Greene, who had 111 tackles. USD is looking to take that next step as an FCS program and pull out the close games. With Chris Streveler leading the way at quarterback, the Coyotes can make a statement Sept.9.

James Madison @ East Carolina (Sept. 2) – This is a rare game where the FCS team is favored. And the spread of 4.5 points is actually being generous to ECU, who went 3-9 last season. JMU is the defending FCS national champs and don't appear to be taking any steps back. This is an extremely winnable game for the Dukes. And oh by the way, ECU is paying them $300,000 to do it.

Five possible upsets

Northern Arizona @ Arizona (Sept. 2) – If you don't know the name Case Cookus, you better get familiar. The 2015 FCS Freshman of the Year played just four games last season before a shoulder injury sidelined him. As a freshman, Cookus threw for 3,117 yards with 37 touchdowns and five interceptions. He'll have the top three receivers from last season return. Arizona went 3-9 in 2016. The Wildcats gave up 38.3 points per game and 275.2 passing yards per game.

Cal Poly @ San Jose State (Sept. 2) – Cal Poly was on the wrong end of the biggest upset in last year's playoffs. The Mustangs lost to San Diego, a non-scholarship school they defeated 38-16 earlier in the season. With fullback Joe Protheroe (1,334 yards, 13 touchdowns) returning and a favorable conference schedule, Cal Poly is eyeing bigger things in 2017. San Jose State was 4-8 last season, allowing 244.6 rushing yards per game.

Villanova @ Temple (Sept. 9) – In his second game as head coach, Mark Ferrante can show the Villanova program remains in good hands. Ferrante takes over after coaching under Andy Talley for more than 30 years. The Wildcats should own one of the top defenses in the FCS this season with four of their top five tacklers returning. Temple won its final six games to go 10-4 in 2016. The Owls lose their No. 1 running back and quarterback and top two tacklers.

Jacksonville State @ Georgia Tech (Sept. 9) – Jacksonville State is a team littered with FBS talent. Mostly because a lot of its players were once on FBS teams. But taking the transfer route has led to three undefeated conference seasons and a national runner-up finish in 2015. The Gamecocks took Auburn to overtime in 2015 before losing 27-20. Last year, they lost 34-13 to LSU. Georgia Tech went 9-4 last season, but should be on upset alert against JSU, who has shown it can match up well with FBS teams.

Wofford @ South Carolina (Nov. 18) – Wofford can make the FCS playoffs real interesting with a huge upset in the final week of the regular season. The Terriers could very well have 0-1 losses heading into their game against South Carolina, who went 6-7 last season. The Gamecocks defeated Western Carolina, who is in the same conference as Wofford, 44-31. The Terriers defeated WCU 31-19. Take that how you wish, but Wofford returns a team that could be in the national title picture if it takes care of business in the Southern Conference. An upset here could greatly influence how the bracket is seeded.

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nebish - 7/19/2017 at 02:19 PM

37 days til kickoff!

SEC, Big XII, AAC, ACC and CUSA media days are over. The rest are next week. Fall camp is just weeks away with a few schools starting earlier this year.


nebish - 7/19/2017 at 02:29 PM

FBS / IA Championship Odds -

Alabama +260
USC +780
Ohio State +800
Florida State +950
Oklahoma +1700
Auburn +2000
Penn State +2200
Michigan +2500
LSU +2600
Clemson +3300
Florida +4000
Washington +4000
Wisconsin +4000
Texas +4500
Georgia +4500
Louisville +5000
Oklahoma State +5000
Notre Dame +8000
Tennessee +8000
UCLA +8000
Virginia Tech +8500
Miami Florida +8500
Kansas State +10000
TCU +10000
Oregon +10000


StratDal - 7/19/2017 at 10:52 PM

Hi nebish. Thanks for the thread. Teams start practicing in a few weeks. College football will always be a good vibe.

Regarding my Bruins, believe it when you see it. Unless UCLA can improve its running game, it will be another long season. Lots of good players all around but unfortunately, no depth at OL. No OL = football hell.

Lots of empty seats at the RB last season. For certain locations, the school decided to add a donation fee per seat to support the John Wooden Fund. I get it but unfortunately, that's a hard sell when the stadium doesn't sell out.

All that being said, I'm looking forward to tailgating, seeing friends, and enjoying all things college football. To good times! GO BRUINS!


StratDal - 7/19/2017 at 10:58 PM

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Man, after all those incredible opening weekend matchups last year, was hoping that was the start of a trend. This year is a throwback to the powerhouses blowing out cupcakes tradition of the 70s and 80s.


+1 Bama vs FSU, Michigan vs The Gators are worth watching but other than that, BFD.

Friday night's game CU vs CSU should be fun. Big rivalry and both schools go at it. Grads from each schools hate each other. That's football!


nebish - 7/20/2017 at 12:50 AM

I'm devoting Saturday and Sunday to football study!

Strat, what are your thoughts on Rosen? I know he hasn't always had the supporting cast, and I know he has had some injury issues, but I just haven't seen the extraordinary ability in an elite talent level college QB. He's good, I've seen him play very good. But I've seen probably 30 college QBs play as good any given year. Do you still think he is the 'Rosen One or Chosen Rosen, whatever they say?


StratDal - 7/21/2017 at 03:12 AM

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I'm devoting Saturday and Sunday to football study!

Strat, what are your thoughts on Rosen? I know he hasn't always had the supporting cast, and I know he has had some injury issues, but I just haven't seen the extraordinary ability in an elite talent level college QB. He's good, I've seen him play very good. But I've seen probably 30 college QBs play as good any given year. Do you still think he is the 'Rosen One or Chosen Rosen, whatever they say?


Rosen is a good QB. He's best in uptempo and can run the ball too. Last season, he had a crappy OL, terrible running game, and receivers that dropped passes plus he was in an offense not suited to his style. It was hard to move the chains and unfortunately, he got a season ending shoulder injury. That said, he has the skills and the smarts to play in the NFL.

He's had a good off-season. Josh has grown up some (keeping his mouth shut), healed from his injuries, and put on some size. He's got some play makers around him but they have to execute. If it's all on him, Bruins are 7-5 at best. If he gets hurt again, Bruins will be lucky to get to .500.


Lee - 7/21/2017 at 12:26 PM

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Man, after all those incredible opening weekend matchups last year, was hoping that was the start of a trend. This year is a throwback to the powerhouses blowing out cupcakes tradition of the 70s and 80s.


+1 Bama vs FSU, Michigan vs The Gators are worth watching but other than that, BFD.

Friday night's game CU vs CSU should be fun. Big rivalry and both schools go at it. Grads from each schools hate each other. That's football!


I hate to wish summer away but the start of football season (especially college) is always fun.

Looking forward to Meeechigan playing a meaningful early game. I hate when I have to watch them play Bowlng Green, Eastern Michigan, et al.


nebish - 7/22/2017 at 01:26 AM

Bruins

v aTm (Sun)
v Hawaii
at Memphis
at Tree
v Buffs
BYE
at Zona
v Ducks
at UW
at Utah (Fri)
v Sparky
at SuCks
vs Kal

Love seeing the Bruins go to Mephis, which that game, just saying that is not a auto W. What is best case Sept? 4-1? Not sure which one they lose, Stanford ofcourse because they always lose to Stanford right? Last year was some **** . The opener is plenty interesting. Not sure how the division shapes up yet but here is one thing we can agree on...Beat SC!


nebish - 7/22/2017 at 01:31 AM

It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Michigan makes it into November 9-0. 4-0 open is possible and MSU and IU will be challenging but they should win both, and I'm not drinking PSU kool aid, think they step back this year ,that game is on the road, probably at night, still. So 7-0, 6-1 at that point losing to somebody along the way perhaps. They beat Rut and Min, then I really like Maryland this year, that game will be much different than last year and Blue travels to them, travels to Bucky and Madison is always a bitch to play at, then gets OSU at home to close. The last 3 games will make or break the season I think.


nebish - 7/22/2017 at 01:38 AM

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2017/07/20/hugh- freeze-resigns-ole-miss-football-coach/498101001/

In the midst of NCAA investigation, Hugh Freeze resigns after it is discovered he placed a call from his school issued cell phone to an escort service and supposedly a "disturbing pattern" was seen on examination of the cell phone records although that specific number was only called once. Those chics must not have suited him.

Just another flawed man hiding behind religion.

Lot of talent still on hand in Oxford, self imposed bowl ban this year pending NCAA sanctions. But they are a train wreck. Season starts nice and easy, then at Bama, then at Auburn, then Vandy, then LSU, then Hogs ,then at UK...what are they 5-4 best case through 9 games? 4-5 more likely.


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