Thread: Neocons want action

OriginalGoober - 4/7/2017 at 12:30 AM


Listening to John McCain today, he is ready to start Iraq 2.0. he wants to give arms and funding to Syrian freedom fighters and is ready to rush in and kill thousands.

Presidient Trump remember your base is opposed to prolonged military action in Syria.


OriginalGoober - 4/7/2017 at 01:00 AM

Apparently John McCain knows who the good guys are in Syria?


jkeller - 4/7/2017 at 02:01 AM

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Listening to John McCain today, he is ready to start Iraq 2.0. he wants to give arms and funding to Syrian freedom fighters and is ready to rush in and kill thousands.

Presidient Trump remember your base is opposed to prolonged military action in Syria.


Trump has a base? He abandoned the people who voted for him.


Muleman1994 - 4/7/2017 at 02:41 AM

Not to worry.
President Trump is doing what Obama failed to do.

Dozens of cruise missiles launched in response to chemical weapons attack

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/06/us-launches-missiles-into-syria-in- response-to-chemical-weapons-attack.html


LeglizHemp - 4/7/2017 at 01:38 PM

Majority Of Republicans Said ‘No’ When Obama Wanted To Launch A Strike On Syria

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-strike-syria-trump_us_58e6f 71de4b051b9a9da355d?tjb&


nebish - 4/7/2017 at 01:51 PM

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Majority Of Republicans Said ‘No’ When Obama Wanted To Launch A Strike On Syria

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-strike-syria-trump_us_58e6f 71de4b051b9a9da355d?tjb&


The neo-cons would've said 'no' because it didn't go far enough. The rest of the Republicans wrestled with becoming more entangled in foreign civil wars or would've voted no as a result of their distrust of Obama.

Support among Democrats wasn't there either. Following the ThinkProgress link in the Huff Post article shows that only 30 Dems were a yes or leaned yes, compared to 58 Dems being no or lean no and 112 being undecided or unknown. Republicans didn't support it either 13 yes or leaned yes with 180 being opposed, 41 undecided unknown. Support in the Senate which was Democrat controlled wasn't clearly in the President's corner either in 2013.


Muleman1994 - 4/7/2017 at 02:13 PM

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Majority Of Republicans Said ‘No’ When Obama Wanted To Launch A Strike On Syria

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-strike-syria-trump_us_58e6f 71de4b051b9a9da355d?tjb&

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The upside this time is that President Trump is getting full support for this long over due action against a dictator and war criminal from both sides of the aisle and world wide.

The use of chemical weapons is not only forbidden by the International Community it is inhumane and must be stopped.


MartinD28 - 4/7/2017 at 04:54 PM

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Listening to John McCain today, he is ready to start Iraq 2.0. he wants to give arms and funding to Syrian freedom fighters and is ready to rush in and kill thousands.

Presidient Trump remember your base is opposed to prolonged military action in Syria.


Trump has a base? He abandoned the people who voted for him.


Fools gold. Trump never cared about the people he enticed to vote for him. His salesmanship and amped up rhetoric got him elected. Fools vote against their own self interest.

The orange guy has eliminated by executive order mortgage rules to help first time home buyers. Wonder how many of Trump's loyalists fall into that group of screw overs?

How many of his voters, their children, and grandchildren will be impacted by his lifting of EPA regulations?

How many will stand to suffer from Trumpcare / Ryancare if / when they can get enough support to replace ACA?

In the end, will his voters even know they're being screwed by the one they carry water for?


Muleman1994 - 4/7/2017 at 05:58 PM

Oh lets just reply to one:

"mortgage rules to help first time home buyers"

It was the Clinton/Democrats sub-prime mortgage fiasco that led so many people to lose their homes and that also was the driving force behind the 2008 recession.

President Trump took the necessary action to ensure first time home buyers could actually afford to buy a home and keep it.


Muleman1994 - 4/7/2017 at 06:03 PM

Lets do another.

"lifting of EPA regulations"

And now people can actually go back to work at jobs destroyed by Obama's politically motivated EPA regulations.

Real jobs that pay well, not the Obama jobs, formally known as McJobs that were part-time and very low wage.

Obama used the EPA to force his political agenda.
His over regulation killed jobs and ruined peoples lives.

President Trump promised to and is fixing that mess.


LeglizHemp - 4/7/2017 at 06:11 PM

Since Trump took credit for the Feb. jobs report, he's also responsible for the puny 98,000 jobs in March.


Muleman1994 - 4/7/2017 at 10:09 PM

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Since Trump took credit for the Feb. jobs report, he's also responsible for the puny 98,000 jobs in March.

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Unemployment dropped to 4.5%, the lowest since 2007.

Real jobs began coming back within days of the election. and the stock market soared. Consumer confidence is at the highest level now since 2001.

The American People and businesses believe in President Trump.

For the first time in 8 years the dark cloud of doom is lifting from our county.



theo - 4/7/2017 at 10:16 PM

A little slow here but basically what Muleman said ...

from Reuters...

U.S. job growth slowed sharply in March amid continued layoffs in the embattled retail sector, but a drop in the unemployment rate to a near 10-year low of 4.5 percent suggested labor market strength remained intact.

Nonfarm payrolls increased by 98,000 jobs last month, the fewest since last May, the Labor Department said on Friday.

Job gains, which had exceeded 200,000 in January and February, were also held back by a slowdown in hiring at construction sites, factories and leisure and hospitality businesses, which had been boosted by unseasonably warm temperatures earlier in the year.


Muleman1994 - 4/8/2017 at 02:05 AM

Once the tax cut is in place, starting with corporate taxes, American companies that fled overseas will return and real jobs will surge.

The U.S. problem will them be having enough people with the proper skills to fil them.

Back in the 1980s President Reagan pleaded with people to get trained in high-tech and engineering skills.

So many people went off to college to get a liberal arts degree or concentrated on such high demand concentrations as African/Euro fashions.

We do now and will continue to have a shortage of correctly skilled workers.
The H1B visa program is a government run mess so there is a lot of work to be done.



gina - 4/9/2017 at 10:56 PM

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Majority Of Republicans Said ‘No’ When Obama Wanted To Launch A Strike On Syria

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-strike-syria-trump_us_58e6f 71de4b051b9a9da355d?tjb&

___________________________________________________________________________ ______

The upside this time is that President Trump is getting full support for this long over due action against a dictator and war criminal from both sides of the aisle and world wide.

The use of chemical weapons is not only forbidden by the International Community it is inhumane and must be stopped.



Yes the use of those weapons is inhumane, but how many countries have them? ALL must agree to destroy their stockpile and submit to an international monitoring agency, and NONE of the countries including the US who also has these weapons will do it. So how do we get this done?

Other point - we do not really have a legal right to go to another country and depose their leaders. Just because we have been doing so for a long time, does not make it internationally acceptable. The people can rise up and do it if they want to. Isis is already in Syria, if the people were opposed to Assad, they could support Isis and Isis would depose Assad. Then the US could go in with all it's bravado and come down on Isis, and put in some other regime that it is pleased with. Isn't that how it is usually done?

Assad never asked us to come to Syria and help him get rid of Isis. Russia flat out said at one point that we were in the way, and that they would handle that, so the problem over there was between Syria, Russia vs. Isis. We really had no say in that.

Isis was not involved in any BIG attacks in the US, so what right to we have chasing them all over globe? It started as a local Iraqi problem, blowback after ousting Saddam, who also did not do anything to us.

If we stayed out of other countries, we would not have to worry so much here. Our foreign policy should be one of non-interventionalism. Respond if attacked, if not, leave other nations and their regimes alone. It is not that complicated.




[Edited on 4/9/2017 by gina]


nebish - 4/10/2017 at 01:18 PM

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Yes the use of those weapons is inhumane, but how many countries have them? ALL must agree to destroy their stockpile and submit to an international monitoring agency, and NONE of the countries including the US who also has these weapons will do it. So how do we get this done?

Other point - we do not really have a legal right to go to another country and depose their leaders. Just because we have been doing so for a long time, does not make it internationally acceptable. The people can rise up and do it if they want to. Isis is already in Syria, if the people were opposed to Assad, they could support Isis and Isis would depose Assad. Then the US could go in with all it's bravado and come down on Isis, and put in some other regime that it is pleased with. Isn't that how it is usually done?

Assad never asked us to come to Syria and help him get rid of Isis. Russia flat out said at one point that we were in the way, and that they would handle that, so the problem over there was between Syria, Russia vs. Isis. We really had no say in that.

Isis was not involved in any BIG attacks in the US, so what right to we have chasing them all over globe? It started as a local Iraqi problem, blowback after ousting Saddam, who also did not do anything to us.

If we stayed out of other countries, we would not have to worry so much here. Our foreign policy should be one of non-interventionalism. Respond if attacked, if not, leave other nations and their regimes alone. It is not that complicated.


It's not that complicated...or is it?

The projection of US influence and power anywhere and everywhere...the belief that all people want to be free and the US offers assistance for these people to realize their dreams of freedom by undermining or directly attacking their authoritarian dictators.

Does that philosophy create more problems, or is it in someway helpful.

I agree that the US should mind our own business if you will and if we bothered less countries we would have less problems on one hand. But then on the other hand, if we allow the world to go to hell around us, what problems then wash upon our shore and is it better to deal with certain issues before they become large problems and it is too late?

I struggle with it.

Regarding radical islamic terrorism the genie is out of the bottle now. I do not think we can totally abandon the middle east, pull out and ignore the region completely. Some say this would send a message to the radicals and that they then would leave us alone. But we can't do that now, if by some means we could travel back in time I think we could change a series of events that may have altered the course of history and the future of now, but then at the same time we don't know what that alternate time would look like and what unforeseen problems may lie within it? I like to think it would be better yes, but we are where we are.

I do think that military intelligence and often military action should "chase ISIS all around the globe" whenever possible or appropriate. Because of where we are at this point in time, failing to do so is very dangerous. Then the question becomes, does our fight against ISIS or radical islam in general help to degrade their ability, or does it help their growth? Frankly I'm afraid if we do nothing they will grow anyway and become stronger.

Assad never asked us to come to Syria, nor did the Russians. We are their because it is one battle field against the enemy of our time. Assad or Russia isn't fighting ISIS as a primary objective. Their objective is to maintain power and control in Assad's regime and fight any and all opponent rebels, that may be ISIS one day or it may be some other group of rebels the next day. I'm not sure we can leave it to them to fight ISIS because I don't think they share the same objective we do in the fight. We aren't defending Assad, obviously. We have some common enemies, but we have very different ideas on what the end game looks like.

The US needs to have some strategic engagement with the world. And we need to listen to allies and countries we are friendly with. As much as we might think it is arrogant for us to throw our weight around and meddle in the affairs of foreign nations, perhaps on some level other countries like that. We can take care of the dirty business that nobody else seems to want to deal with. But then it can go too far. I just hope that Trump isn't transitioning to a cookie cutter Republican neo-con type. I don't believe that is in his soul, but he can be influenced and the military industrial complex and neo-con agenda is very strong in our government.


BoytonBrother - 4/10/2017 at 01:47 PM

For those who believe Trump abandoned his base, I'd say you are wrong. His most loyal supporters love him only because of his willingness to insult and attack people and groups that they don't like. The appeal is not about policy - it's an admiration of seeing those they hate take a beating. The other 16 Republican candidates wouldn't take that low road so therefore they didn't get the nomination. Trump supporters, along with all Americans, will go about their daily lives with no real change. The only difference for Trump supporters is they get a daily chuckle every morning when they see our leader insult people on Twitter. Every administration in my lifetime seems pretty much the same - say whatever sounds good. But no President seems capable of redirecting the ship that is Washington.


Muleman1994 - 4/10/2017 at 04:19 PM

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For those who believe Trump abandoned his base, I'd say you are wrong. His most loyal supporters love him only because of his willingness to insult and attack people and groups that they don't like. The appeal is not about policy - it's an admiration of seeing those they hate take a beating. The other 16 Republican candidates wouldn't take that low road so therefore they didn't get the nomination. Trump supporters, along with all Americans, will go about their daily lives with no real change. The only difference for Trump supporters is they get a daily chuckle every morning when they see our leader insult people on Twitter. Every administration in my lifetime seems pretty much the same - say whatever sounds good. But no President seems capable of redirecting the ship that is Washington.

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Isn't that cute.
However Donald Trump won and the liberals got beaten at every level of the Federal government and in the majority of States.

Get over it.


BoytonBrother - 4/10/2017 at 05:06 PM

Maybe you should get over Obama? I can't be the only one here tired of hearing you cry about him on a daily basis. When will you get over him? But you just proved my point. Notice how you glow that the "liberals got beaten". Personally, I could care less about political policies, whether from Obama or Trump. Neither affects my daily life.

[Edited on 4/10/2017 by BoytonBrother]


Muleman1994 - 4/10/2017 at 11:19 PM

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Maybe you should get over Obama? I can't be the only one here tired of hearing you cry about him on a daily basis. When will you get over him? But you just proved my point. Notice how you glow that the "liberals got beaten". Personally, I could care less about political policies, whether from Obama or Trump. Neither affects my daily life.

[Edited on 4/10/2017 by BoytonBrother]

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Obama the failure must be exposed to remind people that the liberals, bowing before their false god screwed the country.


BoytonBrother - 4/10/2017 at 11:58 PM

I admire your honesty that you cannot and will not ever get over Obama.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 01:30 AM

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I admire your honesty that you cannot and will not ever get over Obama.


The corrupt liberal media gave Obama a pass and now they are being exposed for the fraud they peddled.

America needs an honest media that does the two things expected of them; report the news and hold the government accountable.
It is essential for our Democracy that the people be informed accurately and without political bias.
Currently that is not happening.


LeglizHemp - 4/11/2017 at 01:40 AM

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I admire your honesty that you cannot and will not ever get over Obama.


The corrupt liberal media gave Obama a pass and now they are being exposed for the fraud they peddled.

America needs an honest media that does the two things expected of them; report the news and hold the government accountable.
It is essential for our Democracy that the people be informed accurately and without political bias.
Currently that is not happening.



interesting take on media in america today.....interesting


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2017 at 01:56 AM

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America needs an honest media that does the two things expected of them; report the news and hold the government accountable.
It is essential for our Democracy that the people be informed accurately and without political bias.
Currently that is not happening.


Wrong. We have Fox News reporting accurately and without bias. They say so in their slogan. Did you forget about them? Or are they an example of a dihonest outlet reporting with bias? Just curious to see how your brain navigates this one.

The legit media outlets are plentiful. Only a fool would not know about them. Only a fool would believe 24-hour cable news networks represent all of our media.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 03:14 AM

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America needs an honest media that does the two things expected of them; report the news and hold the government accountable.
It is essential for our Democracy that the people be informed accurately and without political bias.
Currently that is not happening.


Wrong. We have Fox News reporting accurately and without bias. They say so in their slogan. Did you forget about them? Or are they an example of a dihonest outlet reporting with bias? Just curious to see how your brain navigates this one.

The legit media outlets are plentiful. Only a fool would not know about them. Only a fool would believe 24-hour cable news networks represent all of our media.

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The far-left hates Fox News because they report the news. They do not filter out reports that may paint one politician or another poorly.

The left constantly claims that Fox News lies.
Of course when you ask a liberal specifically when and what was the lie they cannot say.

Many of the far-left extremists cannot tell the difference between hard news and opinion.

Every time someone asks a liberal why Fox news is the most watched and most trusted they instantly run away and change the subject.

Fox news is quite a contrast from say CNN which is the very definition of fake news and their news operation is corrupt.
See for example their paid contributor Donna Brazile, who was also at the same time the DNC Chair giving debates questions to the Clinton campaign is advance of the debate.

The list is long and well documented.


Sang - 4/11/2017 at 03:37 AM

You mean sexual harrassment network? I think they are changing their name to SHN.....


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2017 at 11:54 AM

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Many of the far-left extremists cannot tell the difference between hard news and opinion.


Says the guy who thinks Fox News is legit. LOL!!!! If you put as much effort into your career, as you do here writing about how much you hate liberals, you'd be a very rich man. Carrying around that much hate everyday must be exhausting. Good luck to you Mule.



Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 03:02 PM

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Many of the far-left extremists cannot tell the difference between hard news and opinion.


Says the guy who thinks Fox News is legit. LOL!!!! If you put as much effort into your career, as you do here writing about how much you hate liberals, you'd be a very rich man. Carrying around that much hate everyday must be exhausting. Good luck to you Mule.




If you don't think Fox news is "legit" then why are they the most watched and most trusted?

BTW - I already put in much effort in my career which is why I hold the position I do and have the compensation package to go with it.

And I do not hate liberals. My boss, our President and CEO is a liberal and she can't stand Obama and the rest of that crowd including their lapdogs in the media.
Liberals are fine with me.. It is the far-left extremists, well represented here, that I have a problem
with.


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2017 at 06:53 PM

Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 07:29 PM

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Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.

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Nielsen shows Fox News to be far in the lead over all competitors and their data is certainly not a popularity poll.

A legitimate news outlet conforms to the two standards established for the press:
1.) Report the news to the public
2.) Hold the government accountable.

Fox News adheres to both standards while few others do.



[Edited on 4/11/2017 by Muleman1994]


BoytonBrother - 4/11/2017 at 08:26 PM

Yes, they lead among cable news networks. Yes, it's about popularity. That's the exact definition of "ratings". Mule, if you come here to goof around then fine, but if you hate the extreme-left for being too extreme and foolishly following CNN, then you are no different than they are if you follow FoxNews and believe in extreme-right views like you've demonstrated. You are the exreme-right version of the people you hate.


pops42 - 4/11/2017 at 08:48 PM

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Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.

___________________________________________________________________________ __

Nielsen shows Fox News to be far in the lead over all competitors and their data is certainly not a popularity poll.

A legitimate news outlet conforms to the two standards established for the press:
1.) Report the news to the public
2.) Hold the government accountable.





[Edited on 4/11/2017 by Muleman1994]
There is a lot of gullible and stupid people [you being in both camps solidly] this is why fox news is popular, not because of journalistic integrity.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 09:01 PM

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Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.

___________________________________________________________________________ __

Nielsen shows Fox News to be far in the lead over all competitors and their data is certainly not a popularity poll.

A legitimate news outlet conforms to the two standards established for the press:
1.) Report the news to the public
2.) Hold the government accountable.





[Edited on 4/11/2017 by Muleman1994]
There is a lot of gullible and stupid people [you being in both camps solidly] this is why fox news is popular, not because of journalistic integrity.

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And from the ignorant a post with no impact or sense.

That is okay pops.

President Trump won the election and now the Republicans control The Federal Government at every level and the majority of States.

You and the far-left whack-jobs no longer matter and cannot do anything about it.

Ha ha.



pops42 - 4/11/2017 at 10:11 PM

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quote:
quote:
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Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.

___________________________________________________________________________ __

Nielsen shows Fox News to be far in the lead over all competitors and their data is certainly not a popularity poll.

A legitimate news outlet conforms to the two standards established for the press:
1.) Report the news to the public
2.) Hold the government accountable.





[Edited on 4/11/2017 by Muleman1994]
There is a lot of gullible and stupid people [you being in both camps solidly] this is why fox news is popular, not because of journalistic integrity.

___________________________________________________________________________ ___

And from the ignorant a post with no impact or sense.

That is okay pops.

President Trump won the election and now the Republicans control The Federal Government at every level and the majority of States.

You and the far-left whack-jobs no longer matter and cannot do anything about it.

Ha ha.



Stupid can't be fixed, you are doomed to die stupid.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 11:17 PM

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Since you showed some decency in your last post, I'm happy to answer your question. Keep in mind that I worked in the media for 10 years in a major market. Regarding your comment that FOXNews is the most watched and most trusted, those are the results from ratings polls. The opinions of the general public in a survey do not determine whether a media outlet is legit or not. Those results only prove what is more popular. Being popular does not answer whether the media outlet is following a code of ethics or not.

Furthermore, FOXNews admits to being biased to the right. Their slogan, fair and balanced, refers to their attempt to counter the liberal CNN. They are not saying that their reporting is fair and balanced-they are saying that their existence on cable is fair and balanced since CNN was spinning news to the left. They admit this, and it's obvious to most people.

The legit outlets usually get low ratings because unbiased truth isn't as exciting or interesting as spin.

___________________________________________________________________________ __

Nielsen shows Fox News to be far in the lead over all competitors and their data is certainly not a popularity poll.

A legitimate news outlet conforms to the two standards established for the press:
1.) Report the news to the public
2.) Hold the government accountable.





[Edited on 4/11/2017 by Muleman1994]
There is a lot of gullible and stupid people [you being in both camps solidly] this is why fox news is popular, not because of journalistic integrity.

___________________________________________________________________________ ___

And from the ignorant a post with no impact or sense.

That is okay pops.

President Trump won the election and now the Republicans control The Federal Government at every level and the majority of States.

You and the far-left whack-jobs no longer matter and cannot do anything about it.

Ha ha.



Stupid can't be fixed, you are doomed to die stupid.

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Ah yes, another vapor post from pops.
Nothing there.


Muleman1994 - 4/11/2017 at 11:19 PM

Some people like polls. Okay, try this one:

The Top 10 Governors in the U.S. are all Republicans and thirty-three of the country’s 50 governors are Republicans.

https://morningconsult.com/governor-rankings-april-2017/


MartinD28 - 4/12/2017 at 12:20 AM

Just guessing that FOX leads in the sexual predator category? A network would have to go pretty far to catch up to studs like Ailes and O'Reilly and their millions in payouts to women who wouldn't give those preds the time of day if the FOX boys hit on them in a bar.


nebish - 4/12/2017 at 12:57 AM

If I'm around I like Fox for Shep Smith and Neil Cavuto 3:00 and 4:00.

It is funny sometimes, if I have the TV on in the morning I might check out Morning Joe or the CNN show and if there is a big issue or story going on MSNBC and CNN are usually discussing it, then I go to Fox & Friends and they are talking about fluff and bubble gum instead.


Muleman1994 - 4/12/2017 at 01:31 AM

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Just guessing that FOX leads in the sexual predator category? A network would have to go pretty far to catch up to studs like Ailes and O'Reilly and their millions in payouts to women who wouldn't give those preds the time of day if the FOX boys hit on them in a bar.


Exactly right, you are just guessing.

You obviously hate Fox News because you don't want any news that exposes Obama and the liberals as corrupt, incompetent and liars.

If you like sexual assaulters and rapists see Bill Clinton.


Muleman1994 - 4/12/2017 at 01:37 AM

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If I'm around I like Fox for Shep Smith and Neil Cavuto 3:00 and 4:00.

It is funny sometimes, if I have the TV on in the morning I might check out Morning Joe or the CNN show and if there is a big issue or story going on MSNBC and CNN are usually discussing it, then I go to Fox & Friends and they are talking about fluff and bubble gum instead.



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Shepard Smith and Neil Cavuto are quite good. Straight news reporting without the nasty comments.

I gave up on CNN a long time ago when it was proven that they were highly biased and often flat out lie. I wonder if the disgraced Donna Brazile can go back on their payroll.



Sang - 4/12/2017 at 03:41 AM

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Just guessing that FOX leads in the sexual predator category? A network would have to go pretty far to catch up to studs like Ailes and O'Reilly and their millions in payouts to women who wouldn't give those preds the time of day if the FOX boys hit on them in a bar.


Exactly right, you are just guessing.

You obviously hate Fox News because you don't want any news that exposes Obama and the liberals as corrupt, incompetent and liars.

If you like sexual assaulters and rapists see Bill Clinton.




Deflect, blame others, and if possible, blame Obama. Tired replies of the right.....so boring....especially when we have a current commander in chief on record as being an assaulter... and liar....


2112 - 4/12/2017 at 08:31 AM

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The far-left hates Fox News because they report the news. They do not filter out reports that may paint one politician or another poorly.



Really? Do you honestly believe this? Seems like when Obama was in office all we heard was about his golf trips and how much Obama's vacations were costing the government. Pretty sure Fox News isn't covering Trump's golfing to the same extent. Trump has now golfed 17 times in his 81 days. Obama did not golf at all in his first 81 days. Trump's spending 8 times what Obama spent on travel. Is Fox reporting this to the extent they did for Obama? Nope, the Fox filter is strong.


Muleman1994 - 4/12/2017 at 02:38 PM

quote:
quote:

The far-left hates Fox News because they report the news. They do not filter out reports that may paint one politician or another poorly.



Really? Do you honestly believe this? Seems like when Obama was in office all we heard was about his golf trips and how much Obama's vacations were costing the government. Pretty sure Fox News isn't covering Trump's golfing to the same extent. Trump has now golfed 17 times in his 81 days. Obama did not golf at all in his first 81 days. Trump's spending 8 times what Obama spent on travel. Is Fox reporting this to the extent they did for Obama? Nope, the Fox filter is strong.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

The big difference on the golfing thing is President is getting business done on the golf course while Obama was waiting around for the Secret Service to find his balls.
Sadly Obama's balls were never found.

How can you be so sure about what Fox news covers and what they do not?
Based on that load of crap you posted you do not follow Fox news or are simply parroting the Media Matters and other left-wing political activist sites. Either way you have no idea what and how Fox News covers the news.

Fox News is just as hard on President Trump as they were on the POS Obama.

Your uninformed opinion should embarrass you.
Not to worry.
Uninformed left-wing extremists are just another reason why Democrats can't win elections.
Thank you for your assistance.


2112 - 4/12/2017 at 05:50 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:

The far-left hates Fox News because they report the news. They do not filter out reports that may paint one politician or another poorly.



Really? Do you honestly believe this? Seems like when Obama was in office all we heard was about his golf trips and how much Obama's vacations were costing the government. Pretty sure Fox News isn't covering Trump's golfing to the same extent. Trump has now golfed 17 times in his 81 days. Obama did not golf at all in his first 81 days. Trump's spending 8 times what Obama spent on travel. Is Fox reporting this to the extent they did for Obama? Nope, the Fox filter is strong.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

The big difference on the golfing thing is President is getting business done on the golf course while Obama was waiting around for the Secret Service to find his balls.
Sadly Obama's balls were never found.

How can you be so sure about what Fox news covers and what they do not?
Based on that load of crap you posted you do not follow Fox news or are simply parroting the Media Matters and other left-wing political activist sites. Either way you have no idea what and how Fox News covers the news.

Fox News is just as hard on President Trump as they were on the POS Obama.

Your uninformed opinion should embarrass you.
Not to worry.
Uninformed left-wing extremists are just another reason why Democrats can't win elections.
Thank you for your assistance.




I had no idea that you played golf with Trump and knows what is talked about on the golf course.

Oh, and looking at the close election in Kansas last night in what is an overwelmingly RepublIcan district that should have been a cakewalk, it seems like there may be some Trump buyer's remorse setting in.


LeglizHemp - 4/12/2017 at 06:07 PM

quote:
The big difference on the golfing thing is President is getting business done on the golf course while Obama was waiting around for the Secret Service to find his balls.
Sadly Obama's balls were never found.


ok, for a conservative joke......that made me laugh


Muleman1994 - 4/13/2017 at 12:46 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

The far-left hates Fox News because they report the news. They do not filter out reports that may paint one politician or another poorly.



Really? Do you honestly believe this? Seems like when Obama was in office all we heard was about his golf trips and how much Obama's vacations were costing the government. Pretty sure Fox News isn't covering Trump's golfing to the same extent. Trump has now golfed 17 times in his 81 days. Obama did not golf at all in his first 81 days. Trump's spending 8 times what Obama spent on travel. Is Fox reporting this to the extent they did for Obama? Nope, the Fox filter is strong.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

The big difference on the golfing thing is President is getting business done on the golf course while Obama was waiting around for the Secret Service to find his balls.
Sadly Obama's balls were never found.

How can you be so sure about what Fox news covers and what they do not?
Based on that load of crap you posted you do not follow Fox news or are simply parroting the Media Matters and other left-wing political activist sites. Either way you have no idea what and how Fox News covers the news.

Fox News is just as hard on President Trump as they were on the POS Obama.

Your uninformed opinion should embarrass you.
Not to worry.
Uninformed left-wing extremists are just another reason why Democrats can't win elections.
Thank you for your assistance.




I had no idea that you played golf with Trump and knows what is talked about on the golf course.

Oh, and looking at the close election in Kansas last night in what is an overwelmingly RepublIcan district that should have been a cakewalk, it seems like there may be some Trump buyer's remorse setting in.

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

The "buyer's remorse" fake news is a creation of the corrupt liberal media and the far-left extremists.

Not one person who voted for Donald Trump has said they regret their choice.

Nice try though.
When you have nothing start another lie. That is all the left has left.




LeglizHemp - 4/13/2017 at 01:19 AM

quote:

The "buyer's remorse" fake news is a creation of the corrupt liberal media and the far-left extremists.

Not one person who voted for Donald Trump has said they regret their choice.

Nice try though.
When you have nothing start another lie. That is all the left has left.



ok that was funny too, keep it up my friend


Muleman1994 - 4/13/2017 at 01:38 AM

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The "buyer's remorse" fake news is a creation of the corrupt liberal media and the far-left extremists.

Not one person who voted for Donald Trump has said they regret their choice.

Nice try though.
When you have nothing start another lie. That is all the left has left.



ok that was funny too, keep it up my friend

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How many people who voted for Donald Trump have you heard say they are now in remorse?


MartinD28 - 4/13/2017 at 11:30 AM

Ron Estes, the GOP candidate won the Kansas special election by 6.8%. This is the same district Trump won by 27%.


Muleman1994 - 4/13/2017 at 12:26 PM

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Ron Estes, the GOP candidate won the Kansas special election by 6.8%. This is the same district Trump won by 27%.

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Yes.
The Republican won and liberals lost. Again.


BoytonBrother - 4/13/2017 at 01:16 PM

And like a child, that's what matters most to you. Winning and losing. What a life.


MartinD28 - 4/13/2017 at 01:17 PM

The GOP congressional candidate's marginal victory was 21% less than than Trump's. That does not sound like a victory dance for either the candidate nor Trump. Why the statistically significant disparity? Referendum on Trump, weak GOP candidate, galvanized opposition, etc? Keep in mind that the GOP candidate was the State Treasurer. Something does not seem so right for an individual well known and currently holding state office and running in a GOP district.


Muleman1994 - 4/14/2017 at 02:43 PM

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The GOP congressional candidate's marginal victory was 21% less than than Trump's. That does not sound like a victory dance for either the candidate nor Trump. Why the statistically significant disparity? Referendum on Trump, weak GOP candidate, galvanized opposition, etc? Keep in mind that the GOP candidate was the State Treasurer. Something does not seem so right for an individual well known and currently holding state office and running in a GOP district.

___________________________________________________________________________ ______

The Republican won, the Democrat lost.

World salad will not change the fact that liberals cannot win elections.
Nothing else matters.



BoytonBrother - 4/14/2017 at 08:01 PM

Muleman clearly never got any trophies as a kid.


pops42 - 4/14/2017 at 08:37 PM

quote:
quote:
The GOP congressional candidate's marginal victory was 21% less than than Trump's. That does not sound like a victory dance for either the candidate nor Trump. Why the statistically significant disparity? Referendum on Trump, weak GOP candidate, galvanized opposition, etc? Keep in mind that the GOP candidate was the State Treasurer. Something does not seem so right for an individual well known and currently holding state office and running in a GOP district.

___________________________________________________________________________ ______

The Republican won, the Democrat lost.

World salad will not change the fact that liberals cannot win elections.
Nothing else matters.



Go and "Toss the salad"


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2017 at 04:20 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
The GOP congressional candidate's marginal victory was 21% less than than Trump's. That does not sound like a victory dance for either the candidate nor Trump. Why the statistically significant disparity? Referendum on Trump, weak GOP candidate, galvanized opposition, etc? Keep in mind that the GOP candidate was the State Treasurer. Something does not seem so right for an individual well known and currently holding state office and running in a GOP district.

___________________________________________________________________________ ______

The Republican won, the Democrat lost.

World salad will not change the fact that liberals cannot win elections.
Nothing else matters.



Go and "Toss the salad"

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

it is so easy to read pops posts.
Nothing to say on the thread.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2017 at 07:14 PM

The elitists that control the Democratic Party never fail to fail.

Democrats’ post-election playbook: Stay big in California

After painful November 2016 losses, Washington Democrats still appear committed to devoting resources to strongholds like California, instead of responding to party pleas to put time and money into Middle America to reconnect with disaffected voters.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/15/democrats-post-election-playbook -stay-big-in-california.html

Thank you Democrats for ensuring continuing Republican success.


BoytonBrother - 4/15/2017 at 08:24 PM

Get over it snowflake. Nobody cares.


jkeller - 4/15/2017 at 09:45 PM

It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.


Muleman1994 - 4/15/2017 at 10:25 PM

quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.


jkeller - 4/15/2017 at 10:50 PM

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quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


2112 - 4/17/2017 at 01:06 AM

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quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Muleman1994 - 4/17/2017 at 01:15 AM

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quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

Trolling back into into history to take a shot at President Bush with a typical Obama line.
As general and unspecific as possible while meaning nothing.

Weak junior.


jkeller - 4/17/2017 at 01:16 AM

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quote:
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quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.


Muleman1994 - 4/17/2017 at 01:23 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.


jkeller - 4/17/2017 at 01:25 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.



Was that before or after he killed bin Laden?


2112 - 4/17/2017 at 01:38 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.



Was that before or after he killed bin Laden?


Obama has killed more top level terrorists this year than Trump has, and Obama was only in office 20 days this year.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-commandos-isis-leader-hunt-top-terro rists-obama/story?id=44687168


Muleman1994 - 4/18/2017 at 12:07 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.



Was that before or after he killed bin Laden?


Obama has killed more top level terrorists this year than Trump has, and Obama was only in office 20 days this year.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-commandos-isis-leader-hunt-top-terro rists-obama/story?id=44687168

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

Obama was ineffective against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
President Trump will get the job done where Obama failed.


pops42 - 4/18/2017 at 12:29 AM

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quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.



Was that before or after he killed bin Laden?


Obama has killed more top level terrorists this year than Trump has, and Obama was only in office 20 days this year.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-commandos-isis-leader-hunt-top-terro rists-obama/story?id=44687168

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

Obama was ineffective against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
President Trump will get the job done where Obama failed.

More lies from "Captain Clueless"


jkeller - 4/18/2017 at 02:32 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
It appears that Mule doesn't care whether this country succeeds or fails as long as the Republicans are in power when it happens. That is pretty sad.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

Wrong duma$$.
As long as the Republicans are in charge they can both repair the damage done by Obama the failure and get our economy going again while maintaining a strong National Security.
All issues where the left consistently fails.



Yeah,, whatever.


Yup, George W. Bush and his Republican pals left the country in such great shape. Thanks for the reminder of what things will look like in a couple years, maybe sooner.


Exactly. Obama cleaned up the Bush mess and now we should expect the Republicans to continue to clean up the Bush mess.

___________________________________________________________________________ _____

President Bush and President Trump both actively fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama bent over for his Islamic Extremist Terrorism brothers.



Was that before or after he killed bin Laden?


Obama has killed more top level terrorists this year than Trump has, and Obama was only in office 20 days this year.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-commandos-isis-leader-hunt-top-terro rists-obama/story?id=44687168

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

Obama was ineffective against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
President Trump will get the job done where Obama failed.



Figures don't lie. You lie, but figures don't. Suck it up, buttercup. You backed a loser.


Muleman1994 - 4/19/2017 at 08:04 PM

While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.


jkeller - 4/19/2017 at 08:26 PM

quote:
While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.




I have shown you many times that the agreement to leave Iraq was signed by Bush. You know it. You are just a stupd little clueless troll at this point.

Here is a link to Bush's WH page. It even has a picture for you.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/


Muleman1994 - 4/21/2017 at 08:18 PM

quote:
quote:
While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.




I have shown you many times that the agreement to leave Iraq was signed by Bush. You know it. You are just a stupd little clueless troll at this point.

Here is a link to Bush's WH page. It even has a picture for you.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

You ain't shown sh!t other than the preliminary status of forces agreement President Bush secured and Obama failed to finalize.
Then your boy Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving birth to ISIS.

Now we have a President that will take on Islamic Extremist Terrorism like that coward Obama ran from.


pops42 - 4/21/2017 at 08:22 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.




I have shown you many times that the agreement to leave Iraq was signed by Bush. You know it. You are just a stupd little clueless troll at this point.

Here is a link to Bush's WH page. It even has a picture for you.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

You ain't shown sh!t other than the preliminary status of forces agreement President Bush secured and Obama failed to finalize.
Then your boy Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving birth to ISIS.

Now we have a President that will take on Islamic Extremist Terrorism like that coward Obama ran from.


Captain Clueless!


Muleman1994 - 4/21/2017 at 08:42 PM

Ah yes, another empty pot from pops.
Nothing there.


IPowrie - 4/22/2017 at 03:35 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.




I have shown you many times that the agreement to leave Iraq was signed by Bush. You know it. You are just a stupd little clueless troll at this point.

Here is a link to Bush's WH page. It even has a picture for you.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

You ain't shown sh!t other than the preliminary status of forces agreement President Bush secured and Obama failed to finalize.
Then your boy Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving birth to ISIS.

Now we have a President that will take on Islamic Extremist Terrorism like that coward Obama ran from.




You seem so excited to fight. Are you going to sign up to join this crusade? You can't totally defeat an idea.


jkeller - 4/22/2017 at 04:22 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
While you do have a right to be stupid you are abusing the privilege.

Obama's cut and run policy in Iraq gave birth to ISIS.
President Trump will take out ISIS.




I have shown you many times that the agreement to leave Iraq was signed by Bush. You know it. You are just a stupd little clueless troll at this point.

Here is a link to Bush's WH page. It even has a picture for you.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/

___________________________________________________________________________ ____

You ain't shown sh!t other than the preliminary status of forces agreement President Bush secured and Obama failed to finalize.
Then your boy Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving birth to ISIS.

Now we have a President that will take on Islamic Extremist Terrorism like that coward Obama ran from.




Signed sealed and delivered before Obama took office And Obama did what Bush agreed with Iraq to do.

Tell us what Trump has done to defeat ISIS. He was going to have a plan in 30 days. He knew more about ISIS than the generals, Tell us when he stops talking and actually acts.


pops42 - 4/22/2017 at 04:46 PM

The ONLY way to defeat isis is through intelligence, and we know how trump feels about the intelligence community.


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