Thread: Shelter From the Storm

DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2007 at 02:31 PM

OK, one tough year has gone by. At least for me and my family. And me personally. Tough financial times for us this year, but we're still makin' it. Lost my friend Bobo, and my favorite uncle passed away yesterday. I know many people on this site have had a very tough time. I feel so blessed to have my relationship with God, my family and friends, and this all seems to help keep things in perspective and get me through the tough times. I'd like to start a thread about what we do when times are tough, how we make it through, how we celebrate when times are good, how we enjoy success, the things we struggle with, the way we deal with those struggles, how we overcome them, favorite lyrics or poems or passages. What keeps us grounded and gives our life meaning and purpose. Non denominational, non- judgemental. I'll launch this sucker and see if she floats.
As we have gone through the year money has gotten tighter and tighter, and sometimes lately it has felt like I'm about to be strangled by worry. I used to pray at night, when I was lying there awake and tryig not to worry, that God would deliver us from this situation. But lately it's been more that God would give me the strength to see us through the situation. Once I started looking at it that way, everything changed. Money is still tight, especially just after Christmas, but all the pieces we have been putting together to build a more solid future seem to be about to fall into place. My attitude and patience have been much better since I changed the way I thought about it (or it was changed for me, whichever you prefer). Seems like so many times just a slight change in our perspective can give or lives a whole different look. I like this one alot better.

[Edited on 11/3/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


DanB - 12/31/2007 at 02:50 PM

Doug it seems as though we've had a mirrored year, if that makes sense. I lost my grandmother, who raised me, in May. My business has been atrocious, took a $44,000 LOSS on a spec house and still sitting on two more. Honestly I buried my head in the sand or actually a bottle of rum in order to ignore the situation. I think I was literally drunk from Jan. to Sept. Hell there were mornings I'd be looking forward to my first drink for the today.
I don't what caused the light to go off but I woke up one day with a different perspective and started making an effort to secure some business for 2008. As of now things look pretty good for '08 even with housing market looking bleak.

As bad as it has been I sure have learned a lot this year personally and professionally.


piacere - 12/31/2007 at 02:54 PM

I'm getting married.


piacere - 12/31/2007 at 03:00 PM

quote:
quote:
I'm getting married.









That must have been pretty good lasagna.


resolution thread, WP.


piacere - 12/31/2007 at 03:12 PM

I stepped knee deep into my own storm the past few months.

thanks to some sound advice, much from DougMacKenzie , I'm back on track.


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2007 at 03:52 PM

Youknow, there doesn't seem to be any way around these various trials and hard times, they're just bound to come. This April, right after we had bought a building for our business (Which meant a 30K investment to remodel it), our house flooded due to a freak back up of our drainage system. Cost us 20K out of our pocket after it was all said and done. Ouch. Between those two things we are pretty much tapped out. I left working at the prison to work with kids (at substitute pay!). Through it all, our family has gotten closer, my relationship with my wife, though it has gone through some tough spots, is overall much deeper and better, and we have each other and our health. So often it seems the things that I think are terribly bad at the time turn out to be the best things for me in the long run. Hope that continues. If it does, '08 ought to be great! Just reminds me how much we all really need each other.


DanB - 12/31/2007 at 04:23 PM

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family has gotten closer, my relationship with my wife


My wife is greatly responsible for the positive outlook for next year. She got her real estate license and after dealing with some lame duck agents over the last few years she sold one of the houses in 45 days. Even though I'm taking a loss on the house at least we have her commission coming in. She also took it upon herself to do some marketing for my company. It's unbelievable how much support she has provided.

The end result is that we are closer than ever although we were never far apart to begin with. Times like this and you'll see who is in your corner.


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2007 at 04:27 PM

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quote:
family has gotten closer, my relationship with my wife


My wife is greatly responsible for the positive outlook for next year. She got her real estate license and after dealing with some lame duck agents over the last few years she sold one of the houses in 45 days. Even though I'm taking a loss on the house at least we have her commission coming in. She also took it upon herself to do some marketing for my company. It's unbelievable how much support she has provided.

The end result is that we are closer than ever although we were never far apart to begin with. Times like this and you'll see who is in your corner.

I agree totally. And my wife has her real estate license also, got it last year. Are we related?


Quinn - 12/31/2007 at 11:56 PM

POSITIVE VIBES TO ALL


DanB - 1/1/2008 at 02:23 AM

quote:
Are we related?


No because I don't allow Cowpoke fans in the family.














j/k


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2008 at 02:28 AM

quote:
As for the favorite lyrics part...

My wife couldn't be with me here in NYC to catch Gov't Mule. With her blessing, she insisted that I make the trek.

My wife and I met at a Gov't Mule show... a show where Soulshine was played. So that's our song....

I called her Sat night during that incredible version at the Beacon and we "danced" together while being 400 miles apart.

I miss her terribly, so I've been sending her the lyrcis via text messaging all day today.

She's my shelter from the storm....

Great thread Doug.

Peace and Happy New Year!

that is so cool.


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2008 at 02:29 AM

quote:
quote:
Are we related?


No because I don't allow Cowpoke fans in the family.
j/k

Maybe you are my evil twin?


Libby - 1/1/2008 at 05:56 PM

Hang in there, Doug! Why don't you post your daily spirituals here? I love reading them and I know many others who do as well!


dadof2 - 1/1/2008 at 05:59 PM

great post Doug


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2008 at 06:30 PM

quote:
Hang in there, Doug! Why don't you post your daily spirituals here? I love reading them and I know many others who do as well!

Not a bad idea Libby. Here's an oldie but goodie, one of my very favorites. Many deep and important aspects to this, to me at least.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be n want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the
shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
Your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You annoint my headwith oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house
of the Lord forever.


piacere - 1/1/2008 at 06:34 PM

quote:
Hang in there, Doug! Why don't you post your daily spirituals here? I love reading them and I know many others who do as well!



Enzo - 1/1/2008 at 06:35 PM

' we are pressed on every side by troubles , but we are not crushed. we are perplexed ,
but not driven to despair. we are hunted down , but never abandoned by God. we get knocked down , but we are not destroyed. ' 2 Cor 4:8-9
great thread Doug
Sometimes I want to share and express my innermost but............


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2008 at 06:38 PM

quote:
' we are pressed on every side by troubles , but we are not crushed. we are perplexed ,
but not driven to despair. we are hunted down , but never abandoned by God. we get knocked down , but we are not destroyed. ' 2 Cor 4:8-9
great thread Doug
Sometimes I want to share and express my innermost but............


ENZO! Nice to see 'ya.


MaconPeach - 1/1/2008 at 06:39 PM

quote:
quote:
Hang in there, Doug! Why don't you post your daily spirituals here? I love reading them and I know many others who do as well!

Not a bad idea Libby. Here's an oldie but goodie, one of my very favorites. Many deep and important aspects to this, to me at least.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be n want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the
shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
Your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You annoint my headwith oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house
of the Lord forever.


Doug, for Christmas I gave my elderly parents a spoken word CD of Sir Laurence Olivier reading selected Psalms. I truly got chills when I heard him read the 23rd Psalm.

And, for what it's worth, I think it's a great idea to have daily spiritual/devotional items in this thread.

Laura Jane


Enzo - 1/1/2008 at 06:41 PM

Happy New Year to you brother!
Chin up!


piacere - 1/1/2008 at 06:45 PM

yo Dug..."chin up".

sound familiar, bro?



you rock.


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2008 at 06:46 PM

quote:
yo Dug..."chin up".

sound familiar, bro?



you rock.

Seems I might have heard that somewhere before. People make life good. I truly believe that is how God works in our lives.


piacere - 1/1/2008 at 06:48 PM

quote:
quote:
yo Dug..."chin up".

sound familiar, bro?



you rock.

Seems I might have said that somewhere before. People make life good. I truly believe that is how God works in our lives.


gotdrumz - 1/1/2008 at 10:18 PM

God can do ANYTHING....I believe that

but it is better for us when we get involved on a personal basis
it wouldn't mean much if it was just a mere snap of the fingers and "it's all good"
this is so clitche' but it is very truthful "without no test...there is no testimony"


DougMacKenzie - 1/2/2008 at 02:39 PM

I like that James. One thing I've noticed in my life, is that when people go through tough things together, wherever it might be, they tend to bond together more tightly. Those relationships seem to have more depth and character, as do the people in them. The trick is getting through the tough times to the other side. Maybe it is possible to view hardship as a molding process, something that is uncomfortable to go through , but good for us in the long run. This is the way Paul describes it:

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illigitimate children and not true sons........God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness, and peace for those who have been trained by it. Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. Make level paths for your feet, so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed.
And again:
Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverence; perseverence, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, becuase God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
And James:
Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, becuase you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
And like piacere's sig says, "This too shall pass."


DougMacKenzie - 1/3/2008 at 02:21 PM

One thing that happened over the past year is beginning to see the possibility of being OK in whatever situation I find myself in. It seemed to start in little spots, but has grown steadily over this time, that feeling that everything is still OK, because it isn't what is going on around me that is so important, but where I am on the inside, spritually speaking, that really matters, and how that impacts my relationships with others, where my spiritual condition manifests itself in time and space.

I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and i know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being contentin any and every situation, whther well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

That is where I want to be.


Enzo - 1/4/2008 at 12:33 AM

I was sure by now
That You would have reached down
And wiped our tears away
Stepped in and saved the day
But once again, I say “Amen”, and it’s still raining

As the thunder rolls
I barely hear Your whisper through the rain
“I’m with you”
And as You mercy falls
I raise my hands and praise the God who gives
And takes away

I’ll praise You in this storm
And I will life my hands
For You are who You are
No matter where I am
Every tear I’ve cried
You hold in Your hand
You never left my side
And though my heart is torn
I will praise You in this storm

I remember when
I stumbled in the wind
You heard my cry
You raised me up again
My strength is almost gone
How can I carry on
If I can’t find You

As the thunder rolls
I barely hear You whisper through the rain
“I’m with you”
And as Your mercy falls
I raise my hands and praise the God who gives
And takes away

I lift my eyes unto the hills
Where does my help come from?
My help comes from the Lord
The Maker of Heaven and Earth...............


DougMacKenzie - 1/4/2008 at 01:58 AM

Sweet.


Libby - 1/4/2008 at 04:03 AM

quote:
I was sure by now
That You would have reached down
And wiped our tears away
Stepped in and saved the day
But once again, I say “Amen”, and it’s still raining

As the thunder rolls
I barely hear Your whisper through the rain
“I’m with you”
And as You mercy falls
I raise my hands and praise the God who gives
And takes away

I’ll praise You in this storm
And I will life my hands
For You are who You are
No matter where I am
Every tear I’ve cried
You hold in Your hand
You never left my side
And though my heart is torn
I will praise You in this storm

I remember when
I stumbled in the wind
You heard my cry
You raised me up again
My strength is almost gone
How can I carry on
If I can’t find You

As the thunder rolls
I barely hear You whisper through the rain
“I’m with you”
And as Your mercy falls
I raise my hands and praise the God who gives
And takes away

I lift my eyes unto the hills
Where does my help come from?
My help comes from the Lord
The Maker of Heaven and Earth...............


That's beautiful, Enzo. So good to see you!


WharfRat - 1/4/2008 at 04:15 AM

Wow, just noticed this.

Great thread Dug

I can use some of that positive reinforcement stuff, so I will just read and learn here

You da man bro.


DougMacKenzie - 1/4/2008 at 01:47 PM

I don't know about anybody else, but worrying about stuff is such a negative force in my life, but seems almost impossible for me to avoid on a consistent basis, at least when things are difficult. When the sun is shining, the birds are singing, and the wind is at my back it's pretty easy to be calm and peaceful. But when it's dark and stormy, the winds are howling right into me, and the buzzards are circling, that's a different story. It's too easy for me to forget at those times that I am never alone.

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or stow away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or"What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

[Edited on 1/4/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


MaconPeach - 1/4/2008 at 02:55 PM

quote:
I don't know about anybody else, but worrying about stuff is such a negative force in my life, but seems almost impossible for me to avoid on a consistent basis, at least when things are difficult. When the sun is shining, the birds are singing, and the wind is at my back it's pretty easy to be calm and peaceful. But when it's dark and stormy, the winds are howling right into me, and the buzzards are circling, that's a different story. It's too easy for me to forget at those times that I am never alone.

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or stow away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or"What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

[Edited on 1/4/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


Doug,
I cannot tell you how many times I have turned to that Scripture passage.....by far my favorite in the whole Bible. I, too, tend to be a "worrywart"....as we used to say. This passage always puts things in perspective for me and helps me understand that the only person being affected by my worrying is ME!!! God is with me so that I don't have to do all that worrying.....I just need reminding (on a frequent basis!).
Thanks for posting this.....I needed it today very much!

Laura Jane


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2008 at 03:19 AM

'Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood
Where blackness was a virtue and the road was full of mud
I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form
"Come in", she said, "I'll give 'ya
Shelter from the storm."

Anybody notice something different about this place over the last week or so, or is it just me? Feels more like it used to .

[Edited on 1/5/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


JamesMaffucci - 1/5/2008 at 03:36 AM

take comfort and find shelter here .... the positive, caring vibe is like a warm embrace


Enzo - 1/5/2008 at 03:56 AM

hi Libby ...
lyrics and music Casting Crowns


Oh what I would do to have
The kind of faith it takes
To climb out of this boat I'm in
Onto the crashing waves

To step out of my comfort zone
Into the realm of the unknown where Jesus is
And He's holding out His hand

But the waves are calling out my name
And they laugh at me
Reminding me of all the times
I've tried before and failed
The waves they keep on telling me
Time and time again. "Boy, you'll never win!"
"You'll never win!"

But the voice of truth tells me a different story
The voice of truth says, "Do not be afraid!"
The voice of truth says, "This is for My glory"
Out of all the voices calling out to me
I will choose to listen and believe the voice of truth

Oh what I would do to have
The kind of strength it takes to stand before a giant
With just a sling and a stone
Surrounded by the sound of a thousand warriors
Shaking in their armor
Wishing they'd have had the strength to stand

But the giant's calling out my name
And he laughs at me
Reminding me of all the times
I've tried before and failed
The giant keeps on telling me
Time and time again. "Boy you'll never win!"
"You'll never win!"

But the stone was just the right size
To put the giant on the ground
And the waves they don't seem so high
From on top of them lookin' down
I will soar with the wings of eagles
When I stop and listen to the sound of Jesus
Singing over me

I will choose to listen and believe the voice of truth.........


MaconGal - 1/5/2008 at 10:45 AM

quote:
take comfort and find shelter here .... the positive, caring vibe is like a warm embrace


I came here a couple of days ago, my world had just been rocked, out of the blue, without warning. I wasn't sure of what I would find here, but those postivie, caring vibes, the words of encouragement I read that were written for others but helped me and the warm welcomes from everybody stopped my tears for a while and gave me enough hope that I finally slept last night for the first time in two days. I had been told that this was a great bunch of people, and I believe it now.


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2008 at 12:16 PM

At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?"
He called a little child and had him stand among them. And he said, "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
"And whoever welcomes a little child in my name welcomes me. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.....See to it that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."
"What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off? And if he finds it, I tell you the truth, he is happier about that one sheep than the niney-nine that did not wander off. In the same way your father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost."


MaconPeach - 1/5/2008 at 03:32 PM

Rest for the Weary

At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.
"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Matthew 11: 25 - 30


Those last verses have given me solace more times than I can remember. You might also recognize the words from Handel's "Messiah".


Haisija - 1/5/2008 at 03:33 PM

quote:
I'm getting married.


Thats what you do when times are tough ? Man you an icon !


piacere - 1/5/2008 at 05:12 PM


excellent stuff here. Great biblical quotes.

following along and lovin' it.

God bless all of you for your testimony and witness.


DanB - 1/5/2008 at 06:27 PM

piacere,

you need to seek shelter from the storm. He's coming!!


piacere - 1/6/2008 at 03:56 AM

quote:
piacere,

you need to seek shelter from the storm. He's coming!!


"...He is my Rock and my Fortress in whom I take refuge"

Psalm 18:2-3


M-UNIT - 1/6/2008 at 05:13 AM

I have viewed this forum for many years and do not post much. But I need to say this is one of the finer threads. Doug, I feel your pain, I also had a tough year, but just reading your posts here makes me feel better. I mean that!


tommars - 1/6/2008 at 05:44 AM

Couldn't resist :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRwKudE2Qdw

great thread and words though...


Enzo - 1/6/2008 at 04:06 PM

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path
You are my place of safety.
You are like a shield that keeps me safe.
I have put my hope in your word.
This is my comfort in my affliction, for Your word has given me life....
psalm 119.50 ,105,114


gina - 1/6/2008 at 07:17 PM

quote:
I'm getting married.


Go ahead, break my heart.


Peachfan8 - 1/6/2008 at 07:26 PM

Hey Dan, I know how you feel, and have struggled this year too. I know what you mean about the sit with you and your wife also. You really gotta come together sometimes to make it work. Hang in there bro, and know that I am here if you need anything!

Drew


gina - 1/6/2008 at 07:31 PM

Doug, he brings you trials and misery so that you will look to him for solace and answers and he will provide the sustenance. Allah wants a closer relationship with everybody but nobody give him any thought when things are going well because they are too busy enjoying themselves, it is only in despair they call out and say, help me; so if this is the only way he can get your attention, he will bring you misery just so you will call out to him. When you feel betrayed it is because you depend on others to help you, they may or may not, he always provides a way out. You may think you know where YOU want to be and what YOU want to be doing in your life, but he may have other plans for you. Accept it when he moves you out of a place, job, relationship he will bring you to something else which eventually will move you along on the path you need to be on. If the house is giving you lots of problems, have it appraised, perhaps moving and relocating will give you a better quality of life. He does not want things to be difficult for anyone, it is our own stubbornness and clinging to material things that keeps us stuck. If you lost everything you had today, how would you feel? Anygry, sad and with loss, yet what you need most is your personal relationship with him and your faith because things can be replaced, you can move to someplace else and take your wife with you. Ghandi had all he needed in life in a shoebox. Being is more important than having. Make plans, try, but be flexible. Being successful is nothing, being faithful is what your goal should be. Islam helps me soooooo much. In the end you go before God with just yourself, no house, no luxury car, just you, that is what you will take to heaven or hell, so that is what you need to focus on, the rest is just window dressing. You don't need all that much to be happy. Get some basic things that give you some measure of comfort but be satisfied with that. Cut thru all the crap. Suze Orman (a motivational speaker who tries to help woman manage their financial life) realized why man ywomen are in debt and not making a living, there are psychological things tied into it, but one quote she had is "you are a warrior, you do not leave the battlefield". That can apply to anything, you just keep going. Look at your enemies what is stopping you from being happy, develop a plan and try. If you fail, then you just make new decisions and keep on rollin'. I don't want to use Dickey as an example but he is a good one, he keeps going and he tries which is all we are asked to do.


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2008 at 12:15 AM

You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in ove. The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you keep on biting and devouring one another, watch out or you will be destroyed by one another.
So I say, live by the spirit...... the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


piacere - 1/7/2008 at 02:03 AM

walked into church this morning (yeah, I've been back around 6 weeks now. ) and I was thinking, "Man, I'm a mess. What am I doing here?" The sermon was based on a pamphlet called, "Godliness Through Discipline" and it was JUST what I needed to hear and at JUST the right time. I strongly recommend reading this if you're looking to get back on track. If you can't find one, (it's by Jay E. Adams), pm me, I'll send you mine and maybe we can float it around.

Awesome. God's timing, often in conflict with our hurried state, is perfect.


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2008 at 02:56 PM

"All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers......the thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2008 at 12:09 PM

There are so many times when I lose my perspective and want to "make things right", as in right this wrong that has been done, respond to some act in a way that "teaches somebody a lesson", point out where others are flawed or mistaken, or just think somebody else is acting like a jerk and needs to put them in their place. Then I can justify my actions based on the actions of another, instead of doing whay my instructional manual tells me to do, and then claim that I am only human, after all. I have come to realize that anytime I think, feel, or act that way, I am wrong. Everything I do is supposed to be based in love. My job is to follow my instruction manual and leave the outcome up to God, no matter what anybody else is doing. I find myself so often thinking that if I do what God instructs me to do in certain situations, it will cost me something, usually in terms of pride. I don't want to turn the other cheek, or go the extra mile, or give you my coat also. I don't trust that God knows what he is doing and has everything under control. Which makes me not only a hypocrite, but an idiot. Maybe this should be in another thread. Just got to keep on growing.


piacere - 1/8/2008 at 12:40 PM

some nationally syndicated pastor or Christian author said once, " Being a Christian would be easy if it wasn't for the people we had to deal with".

I think it was Paul or Timothy that said, " if you had to avoid wrong and evil, you'd have to leave this world" or something to that effect. I'll have to find the actual quote.

Yet, I agree with you, almost word for word.

It just ain't easy.


DanB - 1/8/2008 at 01:38 PM

This is really one of the better threads on here, thanks guys and gals.


piacere - 1/8/2008 at 02:49 PM

quote:
This is really one of the better threads on here, thanks guys and gals.



Enzo - 1/9/2008 at 01:02 AM

The Wall


(Kerry Livgren/Steve Walsh)
I'm woven in a fantasy, I can't believe the things I see
The path that I have chosen now has led me to a wall
And with each passing day I feel a little more like something dear was lost
It rises now before me, a dark and silent barrier between
All I am and all that I would ever want to be
It's just a travesty, towering, marking off the boundaries my spirit would
erase
To pass beyond is what I seek, I fear that I may be too weak
And those are few who've seen it through to glimplse the other side
The promised land is waiting like a maiden that is soon to be a bride
The moment is a masterpiece, the weight of indecision's in the air
It's standing there, the symbol and the sum of all that's me
It's just a travesty, towering, blocking out the light and blinding me
I want to see
Gold and diamonds cast a spell, it's not for me to know it well
The treasures that I seek are waiting on the other side
THere's more that I can measure in the treasure of the love that I can find
And though it's always been with me
I must teard down the wall let it be
All I am, and all that I was ever meant to be, in harmony
Shining true and smiling back at all who wait to cross
There is no loss ...........


ruthelane - 1/9/2008 at 01:44 AM

My Grandmother used to say God tests you and won't give you more than you
can bear. Doug I have always enjoyed your spiritual posts. This is a very nice thread.

MaconPeach posted one of my Grandmother's favorites:

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Matthew 11: 25 - 30


We used the New King James version:
"Come Ye who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest." I am repeating
that from memory. My Grandmother used to quote the bible, especially Psalms.

Very nice place y'all got here.


DanB - 1/9/2008 at 02:45 AM

quote:
My Grandmother used to say God tests you and won't give you more than you
can bear. Doug I have always enjoyed your spiritual posts. This is a very nice thread.

MaconPeach posted one of my Grandmother's favorites:

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Matthew 11: 25 - 30

We used the New King James version:
"Come Ye who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest." I am repeating
that from memory. My Grandmother used to quote the bible, especially Psalms.

Very nice place y'all got here.




Ruthelane thanks for sharing that. Today was a good day to have read that.


DougMacKenzie - 1/9/2008 at 03:04 AM

One thing I've become aware of that I think is so cool and uplifitng: God created each one of us, individually, just as we are, special and unique, with a specific job in mind for us to do, laid out before the beginning of time, that only we can do. Our purpose is to surrender ourselves to God, all of us, both good and bad, so that he can use us to accomplish this special task. He has a special name for us that captures everything we could hope to be and all that he created us to be. All our life is a molding process that he uses to make us more and more like what he created us to be. It will come in his time and in his way; we just have to stand firm in our faith and trust so that we can do what he has set out for us to do. Then when we see him he will say to us,"Well done, my good and faithful servant."

For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. - Eph. 2:10


DougMacKenzie - 1/10/2008 at 11:50 AM

I saw a couple of posts in Bobo's old thread from Photoron and Sang, two guys hwas particularly close with that would have some really funny exchanges, and felt a sharp twang of loss and sadness. Then this:

"In my Father's house theres are many rooms. I go there to prepare a place for you, so that where I am you may be also. If it were not so, i would have told you."


piacere - 1/10/2008 at 11:55 PM

"Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you".

IPeter 5:6-7


BigDaveOnBass - 1/11/2008 at 12:08 AM

Listen to this conversation between a Christian radio announcer and a 13 year old caller from NE. Very sweet...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zCdZwitrNoY&feature=related


piacere - 1/11/2008 at 01:04 AM

I would love to put a few thousand miles and fourteen years between me and my ex.

no kiddin', I sure would.

but y'know what? It wouldn't matter. I could be ten thousand miles away and thirty years away but what is in your heart is with you regardless of time or distance.
I had some anger and animosity and bitterness and an unforgiving heart for her for a while but have since forgiven her (not all her fault) and have rid myself of all anger and stuff.
I don't know what her story is with our God, that's between her and him but I can only get myself right with him in order to be what he wants me to be. Everything after that is under his control and for that, I trust and thank him.


DougMacKenzie - 1/11/2008 at 03:03 AM

"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' (empty head) is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says 'You fool!" will be in danger of the fire of hell."
"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother, then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:21-24


piacere - 1/11/2008 at 03:08 AM

...and that is EXACTLY the bible passage that I referred to in my thinking and continue, with varying degrees of success, to administer in my daily walk.


DougMacKenzie - 1/11/2008 at 03:12 AM

quote:
quote:
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' (empty head) is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says 'You fool!" will be in danger of the fire of hell."
"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother, then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:21-24




Geeze, Doug, are you trying to make me feel bad?

Not at all Otie. Just hoping maybe we can spare some others from the same seperations by following the instruction manual. Now, if i was to mention the Jets.........that's a different story.


piacere - 1/11/2008 at 03:17 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' (empty head) is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says 'You fool!" will be in danger of the fire of hell."
"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother, then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:21-24




Geeze, Doug, are you trying to make me feel bad?

Not at all Otie. Just hoping maybe we can spare some others from the same seperations by following the instruction manual. Now, if i was to mention the Jets.........that's a different story.


should I start a Jets thread?

yikes, did I say that?


DougMacKenzie - 1/11/2008 at 03:18 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' (empty head) is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says 'You fool!" will be in danger of the fire of hell."
"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother, then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:21-24




Geeze, Doug, are you trying to make me feel bad?

Not at all Otie. Just hoping maybe we can spare some others from the same seperations by following the instruction manual. Now, if i was to mention the Jets.........that's a different story.


should I start a Jets thread?

yikes, did I say that?

To atone for your sin you have to say three Roger Staubachs and a Hail Mary.


piacere - 1/11/2008 at 03:25 AM

The comfort and peace that I get from reading the Bible, not to mention wisdom and the power of discernment, is really beginning to take hold of me and providing me with some real hope and promise. It's almost as if I can FEEL it moving me in a positive direction. I think the key is having a willing heart. Tapping into the power of God is quite the experience.


Enzo - 1/12/2008 at 04:26 AM

Kutless
Stong Tower

In the middle of my darkness
In the nidst of all my fear
You're my refuge and my hope
When the storm of life is raging
And the thunder's all I hear
You speak softly to my soul...............

enjoy your weekend !

[Edited on 1/25/2008 by Enzo]


Enzo - 1/12/2008 at 04:30 AM

Word of God speak
Would You pour down like rain
Washing my eyes to see
Your majesty
To be still and know
That You're in this place
Please let me stay and rest
In Your holiness
Word of God speak



[Edited on 1/25/2008 by Enzo]


DougMacKenzie - 1/12/2008 at 03:47 PM

Fear not, for I am with you. Do not be dismayed. I am your God. I will strengthen you, I will help you. I will uphold you with my victorious right hand.

Is. 41:10

ENZO!


DougMacKenzie - 1/13/2008 at 04:33 AM

"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So do not be afraid; you are worth more than may sparrows."

Matt. 10:29-31


Enzo - 1/13/2008 at 05:11 PM

' things will go wrong at times . You can't always control circumstances. However , you can always control your attitude , approach , and response. Your options are to complain or to lOOk ahead and figure out how to make the situatiion better '
Tom Dungy's book , "Quiet Strength".



If you want to lift yourself up , lift someone else up..... Booker T. Washington ...


[Edited on 1/25/2008 by Enzo]


Enzo - 1/13/2008 at 06:04 PM

"Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God."
Colossians 3:16............


DougMacKenzie - 1/14/2008 at 12:16 PM

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! All this is from God, who reconciled himself to us through Christ and gave us the ministery of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not countingmen's sins against them.

2 Cor. 5:18-19


gina - 1/15/2008 at 01:28 AM

Stay strong Doug. Somebody sent me this and I like it.

The next time you feel like GOD can't use you, just remember...

The Disciples fell asleep while praying
Martha worried about everything
The Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once
Zaccheus was too small
Paul was too religious
Timothy had an ulcer
and Lazarus was dead!

No more excuses now. God can use you to your full potential.
Besides, you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.

1. God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.
2. Dear God, I have a problem, it's me.
3. Growing old is inevitable. Growing up is optional.
4. There is no key to happiness. The door is always open.
5. Silence is often misinterpreted but never misquoted .
6. Do the math. Count your blessings.
7. Faith is the ability to not panic.
8. Laugh every day, it's like inner jogging.
9. If you worry, you didn't pray. If you pray, don't worry.
10. As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.
11. Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.
12. The most important things in your house are the people.
13. When we get tangled up in our problems, be still. God wants us to be still so He can untangle the knot.
14. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry.
15. He who dies with the most toys is still dead.


DougMacKenzie - 1/15/2008 at 11:46 AM

Thanks gina. Through all this I've come to this point of just trudging through, day by day, doing the same things, spending time alone in meditation and prayer, just putting one foot in front of the other and moving forward.Somehow now this becomes the way I am; no5t doing it because I am supposed to, but becuase it is now who I am. Things I don't need are cut off and cast aside, whether they be material things, thoughts, or attitudes. Things I do need become much more dear and precious, like family and friends, fellow travelers on this road. Now the trudging is not so much trudging, but a warm and enjoyable daily walk. This pruning process is painful sometimes, but I can see the fruit it is bearing.

In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Ro. 8: 26-28


DougMacKenzie - 1/15/2008 at 11:48 PM

OK, this is wierd. I went to post in Cami's thread and just got overwhelmed by feelings of sadness and loss for Bobo. Couldn't even tell Cami what I set out to say. Went straight to my bible and got this:

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord".

Rom. 8:38-39


piacere - 1/16/2008 at 01:09 PM

I was flippin' the channels last night and ran into a local access program. It was a pastor from a local church preaching from a service this past Sunday. His sermon was based on IIPeter 1:5-7. He touched on every point in the verses, faith, goodness,knowledge,self-control, perserverance, godliness, brotherly kindness,love. He stayed a while longer on self-control, mentioning fasting and that fasting could be a number of things and not necessarily food (something I and I'm sure some other people, never considered) He said it could be an attitude, tv, your talk, temperment, a habit, any number of things. Made me think...

God puts something or someone in our path JUST when we need it. Sometimes it's not a good thing or person and our spiritual knowledge, discernment and faith are tested and put into use. It's nice that God prepares us.


piacere - 1/16/2008 at 07:58 PM

brothers and sisters. This may take a minute but bear with me.

Some of you may know that I volunteer at a hospital. I spend some time in the ICU and CCU parts of the hospital and it's a sobering and humbling experience. Those nurses are angels.

Anyway, I'm in the cafeteria at lunch and I just sat down and said grace (I always say grace and I mention that not to boast or anything but as a prelude to the following) and this much older couple stands opposite me (the place was packed) and the man said, "We saw you saying grace and wondered if we could sit with you". I stood (men, always stand to shake hands or welcome a woman) and said, "By all means, sit." I said , "I said grace in 5 seconds, you must have just caught me"
Anyway, this couple has a daughter, married to a dude that fell off a ladder, 22 YEARS AGO and has stood by the dude all that time (He's paralyzed and thus, very needy) As they were talking, I could see tears welling up in their eyes and they were two of the sweetest people you'd ever meet and it broke my heart. So we kind of huddled up a bit and I prayed for them, for us, and we went our seperate ways after we ate and they were thankful to ME !!! It made me think...just when you think times are tough and there's no light at the end of the tunnel, you see someone that has endured a lifetime of woe. Oh, their daughter...married this man 4 months before the accident. How's THAT for sticking by a man?!! She has visited her husband every day in every hospital he's been in from the Cape to Boston to Providence. So if you think you've got it tough, consider her.
Not sure why I mention all of this, I see so much in this hospital but for some reason, this had a very profound effect on me.


DougMacKenzie - 1/16/2008 at 11:09 PM

I think there are so many that are hurting, in need, or just wanting someone to share a human moment with that if we could really see into the hearts of others, past the brave fronts so many put on, we would be overwhelmed with the opportunities for compassion and kindness. In sharing our fears, troubles, and concerns, we actually open the door for others to share theirs, and in so doing we connect in a very real and spiritual way. So that our weaknesses and struggles are turned into a huge spiritual asset.

"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."

Matt. 25:34-40


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2008 at 12:22 PM

"I have told you these things so that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

Matt. 16:32


DougMacKenzie - 1/18/2008 at 12:25 PM

"I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil - this is the gift of God."

Eccl. 3:12-13


piacere - 1/18/2008 at 12:36 PM

been in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes a lot lately.


gina - 1/19/2008 at 01:08 AM

After I stop singing Whippin' Post, I'll beheading into the Book of Job probably. Anyway this is very true.

That which you think about, you get (first law).

When you give thought to something you desire with an expectation or
believe in it, you are then in the place to receive it. (second law)

The difference between the Law of Attraction and the Law of Deliberate
Creation is that, the Law of Attraction is like a boomerang. Whatever we
give out with our energy vibrations (thoughts, feelings, etc) we will
receive back to us. The Law of Deliberate Creation is offering a
vibration knowingly.

Most of the time you are offering a vibration unknowingly.

For example, if you are witnessing something that makes you happy, you
are raising your vibration and you will then vibrate happiness. On the
other hand, if you witness something that makes you angry, you will
offer that same negative vibration.

When you don't apply the Law of Deliberate Creation you are an
observer. You focus on your current reality and you have a vibration
(either positive or negative). The Law of Attraction then responds to
that vibration and you receive more of the same.

************ ********* ****

The Law of Allowing***

The third essential Universal Law is the Law of Allowing

The application of the Law of Allowing will bring absolute freedom in
your life. You will feel free in your relationships to be who you are.
You will feel free in your career to do what you want. And you will feel
free in your life to create whatever you desire.

There are two ways to apply this law. First is the way to allow others
to be as they are, and second, is the way we allow (receive) from the
Universe to deliver all that we desire. Let's first look at allowing
others to be as they are.

"I am that which I am. While I am that which I am, I allow others to
be that which they are."

L et's say that again, only this time, say it out loud:

"I am that which I am.
While I am that which I am,
I allow others to be that which they are."

There are no two people that are the same, even though we can share many
similar traits. We all are very different and unique.

If you can accept, and not just tolerate another person's difference
and similarities, then you understand the Law of Allowing.

If you are out of alignment with the Law of Allowing you believe that
another person needs to think, feel, believe, and act according to how
you think they "should". I call this having Perfect Pictures
and this can cause great suffering in your life and your relationships.
This is the opposite of accepting another as they are. If you have a
deep rooted fear that unless everyone thinks, feels, believes, and acts
in a certain way, "your way" then they are somehow
"wrong", you then judge.

Judgment is a lower level emotion and based on the Law of Attraction,
you will attract more negative people, circumstances, and situations to
you. If you need to make everyone conform in order to feel good about
yourself and your world, you will never experience freedom. This is the
exact opposite of freedom. This is bondage. We can never get the rest of
the entire world to behave the way we think they "should". This
is why wars start.

Let's look at a possible example. If you are observing someone that
talks with their mouth full of food, and instead of allowing them to eat
the way they are, you find yourself getting disgusted and upset with
that person. You really want that person to change, or stop doing the
certain behavior (talking with their mouth full of food). You are afraid
that you will look badly as well. Instead of just allowing that person
to be as they are, you take it personally and let it affect your mood,
and ultimately robbing you of your freedom.

The Law of Allowing is one of the laws that govern our Universe. These
laws are eternal, they are forever. These laws are universal, which
means they are everywhere. They are absolute, whether you know they are
or not. They exist whether you accept they exist or not. They influence
your life, whether you know that they do, or not.

When we desire something to manifest from the Universe, and we are
feeling negative emotions, we are blocking that creation from coming
into manifestation. It is our negative emotions that holds us a part
from it. When we release our resistance, we are back in the state of
allowing and all the abundance, freedom, joy, success, prosperity,
wealth, happiness (you name it) can flow to us.

C an you see how all the Essential Universal Laws work together? It is
designed that way. To learn only one law is a good start, but it is
knowing and applying all of them that will give you the life of your
dreams, if you allow it.


DougMacKenzie - 1/19/2008 at 01:10 PM

" Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, buy prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which passes all undserstanding, will gaurd your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Phil. 4:4-7


DanB - 1/19/2008 at 02:00 PM

quote:
" Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near.DO NOT BE ANXIOUS ABOUT ANYTHING, but in everything, buy prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which passes all undserstanding, will gaurd your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Phil. 4:4-7


Perfect timing for me to read this passage, thanks Doug.


piacere - 1/19/2008 at 04:03 PM

I've noticed that in the almost 14 years I've been a Christian, whenever a situation arises that is more than I think I can handle, I open the Bible and the words I need are right there.

Lately, I've been back at church and often too the sermon is just what I need to hear.

It's good having fellowship with other Christians. Keeps me accountable and in check.

I ventured forth on my own for a few years and was led astray from the path to God. The path made clear by Christ. I relied on someone else and on my own "strength".

Big mistake. Thanks be to God for his patience with me.


DougMacKenzie - 1/19/2008 at 05:35 PM

Peter is one of my all time favorite people in the Bible. If he can finally get it, there is always hope for me.

"What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety nine on the hills and go look for the one that wandered off? And if he finds it, I tell youi the truth, he is happier about that one sheep than about the ninety-nine that did not wander off. In the same way your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost."

Matt. 18: 12-14


SantaCruzBluz - 1/19/2008 at 07:18 PM

Doug, I just found this thread.

Gina, I really like your last post. Where is that from? The Universal Laws, I mean?

I really do believe that God created what we see around us, gave it a spin, and let it go. I don't think God gave us any rules to live by, nor did He give us a book that is His final word on anything.

But I do believe that God is intimately involved in everything we do, as we are "aspects" of God. I am God, expressing himself in yet another human form. My cat Buddy is God, expressing Himself as yet another living being. God is Life.

I also believe that each of us are spiritual beings temporarily living a human lifetime in a physical body, by our own choice and design. We make this choice with God's complete aprroval, and the understanding that we will never be judged or punished for anything done here, except for the judgment and punish we face here. What happens in the physical realm stays in the physical realm, so to speak.

I believe each of us have "spirit guides" who know us intimately, who know what we came to achieve, and who help us every day. They make sure we meet the people we're supposed to meet, they do incredible things that we see as miracles, they pop thoughts into our heads at just the right moments. You can call them the Holy Spirit, God, your conscience, or whatever, but I do believe we all have helpers and unseen friends.

This is the faith that sustains me and gets me through the hard times you describe, Doug. (And believe me, I've seen my share.) I know that I am living this life by my own choice. God will never judge me. I can make any choice I want, and He will still love me just as much. I know that He wants me to grown and become more like Him, and He will help me with that in any way I allow it. He will give me opportunities to practice patience. He will give me chances to forgive, or to judge. But He will never judge me based on those choices. I am here to learn, and He has promised to help.

The way He helps is through a system of "laws" that govern the Univers, the laws gina mentions. The Universe only knows one thing, and that is to allow us to create any reality we wish for in this physical realm. Our desires begin with a single thought, and with that thought, wheels begin to turn and doors begin to open. The Universe has no choice but to grant our desires. When we verbalize our thoughts, things beging to happen. When we take physical steps to make our desires come true, there are things going on behind the scenes that we have no control over, unless our thoughts and actions change, and then the process behind the scenes changes, too. When we decide, "This will never work. We are doomed," and say those words, the Universe will make that reality happen, too.

I used to spend a lot of time worrying about my situation, wondering how God could allow such a thing, wondering if I'd done something to offend Him, wondering if "The Devil" was somehow involved in all this. God pointed me toward the light, which in that case was that all my worrying and negative thoughts were creating a reality which was not the one I wanted.

He also showed me that at any given moment, I have every single thing I need. Period. He has provided everything, and I lack nothing. He is always there for me, as the Universal Laws are always in effect. Life is Change, and we are constantly creating the reality we see around us. We can do it consciously, or unconsciously.

I highly recommend the movie What The Bleep do We Know.

Thanks for starting this thread, Doug. I hope you know I'm not trying to prove I'm right about anything, or being argumentative. The things I write in these spiritual threads is my witness, my story about what God has done in my life. He began by teaching me truths using the Bible, in church and before that in Baptist Sunday School. That is where I came to know Jesus. But God has also shown me I have nothing to fear from Him, no matter what I believe about Jesus, and that I am free to be whatever I want to be in this life. That's a message I think is worth spreading.


DougMacKenzie - 1/19/2008 at 11:15 PM

"Perfect love casts out all fear." Nice to see you Allen.


piacere - 1/20/2008 at 01:50 PM

greetings bretheren.

I've noticed that many of the discussions that go on here at this website, as well as out in the world, are talked about in the bible. How there'd be unbeleivers, divisions, those who offer their personal slant, those who pick and choose to fit their interpretation, on and on. I said it before and I stand firmly by it...some beleive, some don't. It's been foretold. Every angle has been covered. It's not for me to dispel truths from the bible, only to follow the blueprint, which is to my benefit and edification.

sidenote: I hope I can keep holy the Sabbath if the Patriots turn the ball over today...

btw, I always enjoy Allen's posts too. Those N'awlins updates were fantastic !! Good on ya bro. Ya did good.


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2008 at 03:53 AM

Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. one of them, a teacher of the law, tested him with this question: "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?'
Jesus replied," ' Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Matt. 22:34-40


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2008 at 04:28 PM

"Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
'Never will I leave you
never will I forsake you.'
So we say with confidence,
'The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid
What can man do to me?'

Heb. 13:5-6


DanB - 1/21/2008 at 11:34 PM

Does anyone else here receive the little books "Our Daily Bread"? I used to get these from a company I worked with and have always found what I needed. Just now I thought of pulling it up on the net and look what I found, once again something needed at this time.



In late January 1956, during the tense days of the Montgomery Boycott, civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. could not sleep. A threatening phone call had terrified him. So he prayed, “I am here taking a stand for what I believe is right. But Lord, I must confess that I’m weak now, I’m faltering. I’m losing my courage. Now, I am afraid. . . . The people are looking to me for leadership, and if I stand before them without strength and courage, they too will falter. I am at the end of my powers. . . . I can’t face it alone.”

Dr. King later wrote, “At that moment I experienced the presence of the Divine as I never experienced Him before. It seemed as though I could hear the quiet assurance of an inner voice saying, ‘Stand up for righteousness, stand up for truth; and God will be at your side forever.’ Almost at once my fears began to go. My uncertainty disappeared. I was ready to face anything.”

The rest is history. Dr. King wanted to see people of all colors free of the damage done by racism and prejudice.

If we face opposition when we’re trying to do what’s right, we too must cry out to the Lord. He alone is our “rock of refuge, a fortress of defense” (Ps. 31:2). He is our reliable source of strength and protection. —David C. Egner

Lord, help me stand upon Your rock of Truth
And never trust myself to sinking sand;
Whenever I am faced with evil powers,
I’ll call upon Your strong and mighty hand. —Hess

When we trust the power of God, we experience peace, not panic.


[Edited on 1/22/2008 by DanB]


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2008 at 09:23 PM

"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother, and then go and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:23-24


leftyblues - 1/22/2008 at 09:42 PM

it's funny Doug..I had a tough year in 2007 on many fornts, but the end of the year brought an amazing woman into my life, so it really ended on an upswing..

I now pray for the strength to accept God's will, no matter what it may be..i still wish for cetain things..but something i thought i wanted didn't work out and man, was it a blessing...

that God dude, is allright by me..


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2008 at 09:46 PM

Hey, I hear 'ya lefty. Some of the worst stuff that ever happened to me has turned out to be a huge blessing in the long run. You just never know. It always seems to be different than what I wanted for myself, but way better than I ever could have imagined. Glad things are looking up.


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2008 at 11:08 PM

Then he got into the boat and his disciples followed him. Without warning, a furious storm came up on the lake, so that the waves swept over the boat. But Jesus was sleeping. The disciples went and woke him, saying, "Lord, save us! We're going to drown!"
He replied, "You of little faith, why are you so afriad?" Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm.
The men were amazed and asked, "What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!"

Matt. 8:23-27


Enzo - 1/24/2008 at 03:39 PM

Help me to win my endless fears
You've been so faithful for all my years
With one breath You make me new
Your grace covers all I do



[Edited on 1/25/2008 by Enzo]


Enzo - 1/24/2008 at 07:59 PM

Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time........



[Edited on 1/25/2008 by Enzo]


DougMacKenzie - 1/24/2008 at 10:14 PM

I've heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove
And old men with broken teeth stranded wihtout love
Do I understand your question then, is it hopleless and forlorn?
"Come in", she said, "I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."

"One thing I ask of the Lord, this is what I seek:
that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life,
to gasze upon the beauty of the Lord and to seek him in his temple.
For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
he will hide me in the shelter of his tabernacle
and set me high upon a rock."

PS. 27:4-5


piacere - 1/25/2008 at 01:45 AM

quote:
it's funny Doug..I had a tough year in 2007 on many fornts, but the end of the year brought an amazing woman into my life, so it really ended on an upswing..

I now pray for the strength to accept God's will, no matter what it may be..i still wish for cetain things.. but something i thought i wanted didn't work out and man, was it a blessing...

that God dude, is allright by me..


same here. big time.


DougMacKenzie - 1/27/2008 at 02:36 AM

"You turned my wailing into dancing;
you removed my sackcloth and clothed me with joy,
that my heart may sing to you and not be silent.
O Lord my God, I will give you thanks forever."

Ps. 30:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 1/27/2008 at 08:44 PM

"But I trust in you, O Lord;
I say, 'You are my God.
My times are in your hands;
deliver me from my enemies
and from those who pursue me.
Let your face shine on your servant;
save me with your unfailing love.'"

Ps. 31:14-16


piacere - 1/27/2008 at 09:33 PM

somebody's Bible is an NIV.


DougMacKenzie - 1/28/2008 at 12:02 PM

One of the most inspiring things I've found in my life is how God changes me, bit by bit, from the inside out, over the course of time. We go through what we perceive to be difficult times, thinking "Why!?", and then wake up one morning and realize that through this time God has changed us. And then when we slip into our old ways of thinking and being it is so uncomfortable for us that we have to confess the error of our ways, ask forgiveness, and move on to the next thing. These hard times and difficult places really do seem to have a purpose, and that is to mold us into the image of Jesus. I can't make myself that kind of person. But God can, if I just keeping walking day by day in faith and trust.

"For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently."

Rom. 8:24-25

[Edited on 1/28/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 1/29/2008 at 11:52 AM

"Oh, the depth and the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgements, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has been his counselor?
Who has ever given to God, that God should repay him?
For from him and through him and to him are all things.
To him be the glory forever!
Amen."

Ro. 11:33-36


DougMacKenzie - 1/30/2008 at 10:24 PM

"Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my firends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

Ro. 12:17-19


Enzo - 1/31/2008 at 08:07 PM

2 KING 6


15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant asked.

16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are with us are more than those who are with them."

17 And Elisha prayed, "O LORD, open his eyes so he may see." Then the LORD opened the servant's eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2008 at 11:30 AM

We wait in hope for the Lord;
he is our help and our shield.
In him our hearts rejoice,
for we trust in his holy name.
May your unfailing love rest upon us, O Lord,
even as we put our hope in you.

Ps. 33:20-22


DougMacKenzie - 2/2/2008 at 01:38 PM

I was talking with some friends last night and it reminded me of conversations I used to have with Bobo about seeing each other again in heaven, and how amazing that will be. All the apparent toil, loss, and pain that we experience here wil be burned up and turned into dust, and all that will be left is the good stuff, the good times, the good things. The time we spend here is nothing when compared to what is coming, and by the time we get there I imagine we will try to figure out why we ever bothered worrying about any of this stuff at all.

"Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Nephtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan -
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.
You have enlarged the nation, and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest,
as men rejoice when dividing the plunder.
For as in the day of Midian's defeat you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them, the bar across their shoulders
and the rod of their oppressor.
Every warrior's boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire.
For unto us a child is born, to us a son is given,
and the government willl be upon his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne and over the kingdom,
establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Almighty Lord will accomplish this."

Is. 9:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 2/3/2008 at 03:27 PM

"This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to us as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us."
! John 4:10-12


Enzo - 2/3/2008 at 03:38 PM

time for church brother , see you there!


MaconPeach - 2/3/2008 at 03:40 PM

quote:
"This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to us as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us."
! John 4:10-12


There is a website I love called "Cat Scriptures" (that's not the web address though). Just thought I'd post this. I know not every one likes cats the way I do....and if I shouldn't post any of these again, please PM me and tell me! Anyhoo...



Laura Jane


Enzo - 2/3/2008 at 03:43 PM

and if I shouldn't post any of these again

share my friend !


MaconPeach - 2/3/2008 at 03:51 PM

quote:
and if I shouldn't post any of these again

share my friend !


Aww...thanks, Enzo....you folks are the best!


piacere - 2/3/2008 at 05:11 PM

Laura Jane

church was cool today, it is every Sunday, actually.

nothing like re-charging the batteries to face the coming week.


SantaCruzBluz - 2/3/2008 at 05:32 PM

Thank you, God, for this new day that is dawning, with all of its possibilities and opportunities. Thank you for creating me and giving me life. Thank you for this human life you're allowing me to live. Thank you for giving me a warm, dry place to sleep. Thank you for giving me good work to do. Thank you for always providing food and water for me and my cats. Thank you for my truck and my tools, and the bass guitar you gave me. Thank you for my family, and my friends, seen and unseen.

Thank you for the challenges I face everyday. Thank you for showing me that you don't judge me, and that you never will. Thank you for giving me everything I need to create the reality I desire in this human body. Thank you for all the times you reveal yourself to me, sometimes in the most astounding ways. Thank you for this very moment, and for teaching me I have nothing to fear in any moment. Thank you for allowing me to be part of this incredible cosmic drama that is unfolding moment by moment, and thank you for the path that lies before me.

Thank you, God.
Thank you for Life.


DougMacKenzie - 2/5/2008 at 02:12 AM

"I sought the Lord, and he answered me;
he delivered me from all my fears.
Those who look to him are radiant,
their faces are never covered with shame.
The poor man called, and the Lord hear him;
he saved him out of all his troubles.
The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him,
and he delivers them."

Ps. 34:4-7


DerekFromCincinnati - 2/5/2008 at 09:32 PM

quote:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4216350&page=1

Mystery Behind the Damanhur Temples

Hand-Built Maze Hidden in a Mountainside Is Home to a Secret Society



By CHRIS CUOMO, ALBERTO ORSO and IMAEYEN IBANGA
Jan. 31, 2008 —


Hidden away in a country renowned for its architectural beauty lies a massive hand-built place of worship many tourists never see.

An entrance that looks like a mineshaft opens up to a maze carved inside the mountain holding the Damanhur Temples of Humankind in the Valchiusella Valley, about 30 miles north of Turin.

Damanhur narrates the history of human potential through art. With at least nine rooms  some with 25-foot high ceilings  it looks as if the secret doors and passageways were built centuries ago.

In truth, the unlikely temple is no ancient wonder and was built piecemeal by 150 people over a 15-year period beginning in 1978. The work was so secret, the Italian government never knew it was going on and never gave permission for it.

"We were very good at keeping the secret," Damanhur spokeswoman Esperide Ananas said. "When there was maybe loud work going on we would play records.

"If somebody happened to hear they would think we were just having a party," she said.

The handcrafted structure is full of dramatic beauty, and each apparent dead end really leads into another mysterious hall.

"You have to think that we did that without any engineer or architect," Ananas said. "Everything has been excavated by hand."


The Damanhurians: The People Behind the Temple

At least as mysterious as the temple itself is the utopian society to which it belongs,The Federation of Damanhur. Damanhur, which means city of light, comprises 800 people who live in communal homes.

The spiritual group's writings are in a coded language only they understand and its dances are full of symbolic movements.

Founded in 1975, the Federation of Damanhur thinks of itself as the builders of a new civilization that stands for peace and human potential. It prides itself on being an eco-society based on ethical and spiritual values.

Falco, as the group's founder is known, said that he always dreamed of the elaborate temples.

"I had the idea for the temples when I was 12, 13 years old," he said. "It was important to build them in secret or else we would never have been able to build them. Italian law does not foresee this sort of underground building."

The group wanted the temple to be "a gift to humanity" once it was completed, he said.

Visitors to the halls of the temple have expressed awe, delight and intrigue.

"My first reaction was, 'My goodness. Tiffany's is like kindergarten compared to what's happening here.' Everywhere I looked at Damanhur, the art is just exquisite," visitor Bonnie Cohen said.


Inside the Halls
Falco's vision for the temple was brought to life in several themed rooms, some with 20-foot ceilings. The themes of each of the rooms are connected to the group's spiritual beliefs.

"It is always a spiritual experience when you cross the different halls and spaces," said Damanhurian Gazza Solidago. "I think that they are a dream  a dream that is constantly evolving."

The Damanhurians use the various rooms of the temple, which has five floors and reaches about 100 feet down, for rituals of their own creation.

"They can even sleep in the temples if they want to do research on dreaming," Ananas said.

The rooms include:


Blue Temple, the oldest hall, is used for mediation on social matters. It guides the federation as a place of inspiration and reflection.


The Hall of Water is dedicated to water and the feminine principal. It is shaped like a chalice, and with blue as its dominant color, it creates a marine-like atmosphere.


The Hall of the Earth is dedicated to the male principal and the circular room rises in a cone shape toward the ceiling. It also is dedicated to all living things.


The Hall of Metals takes its name the Damanhurian philosophical belief that every age of humankind is related to a metal. The art in this hall tells the story of humanity, including delving into its vices.


The Hall of Mirrors is dedicated to music and the sky.


The Hall of Spheres' ceiling is covered with 24-karat gold leaf, as is the upper portion of its walls. It is considered the heart of the complex.


Finally, the Labyrinth is dedicated to the relationship between humanity and divinity. It covers the deities humans have worshipped over the centuries and uses 16 windows to depict divinities.





DerekFromCincinnati - 2/5/2008 at 09:34 PM



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What is Damanhur
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DAMANHUR... a Laboratory for the Future


Damanhur is a collective dream transformed into reality thanks to the creative power of positive thought.

Damanhur is a seed that has been growing for over thirty years, little by little, constantly transforming and renewing itself so as to bring to life the reality its citizens together desired.

From the founders, a mere dozen people, to over a thousand living today in or near the communities, the history of the Federation speaks of a project that has come to life, has grown and today is reaching out on a planet-wide scale as a new peace-bearing people, interweaving sociality, spirituality and respect for the environment, the recovery of ancient traditions and advanced technological research, with its roots deep in the territory and at the same time moving out towards everything happening around the globe.
It is a profound vision of the ideal with its feet well planted on the ground. Thinking of the future with joy is the first step towards the awareness of peace demanded by our times.


Damanhur is a possible answer. Translating ideas into actions and concrete achievements is Damanhur’s commitment towards peace.

The structure and the organisation

Damanhur is based upon diversity and change, which can be applied to anything at all within the community. The social structure and political system have been changed many times over the course of the years, from the first communities to the present federation. The Damanhurian decision making model has evolved, creating an efficient, democratic system with representatives and elected bodies based upon the participation of all the citizens in public debate. All changes to the rules and regulations are ratified in accordance with the Constitution, which has been updated several times, the last version dating from 1998 and which is presently in force but undergoing new revision.



Daily Life

Daily Life is based upon sharing, on exchange with others and on the commitment of everyone to bring alive their own dreams and their shared one.


The social structure and the political system have been changed many times over the course of the years, from the first communities up to the present Federation, giving rise to a democratic system with representatives and elected bodies based upon the active participation of all the citizens in public debate.

All the changes to the rules and regulations are ratified in accordance with the Constitution, which has been updated several times, so that it always reflects the aims of the citizens of Damanhur.

Damnhur offers various possibilities for citizenship according to the level of commitment that each person chooses: from those who live full time within the community to those who are linked to the project of the Federation while still living outside.

The citizens who chose the community formula live in large houses or in houses close to one another where nucleo-families are formed of around thirty or so people.
There are couples, couples with children, single people, young and old people living in the communities and this permits an exchange of experiences among all the different age groups.

Each member has their own personal space to live in and they share with the others the communal areas such as the kitchen and the meeting rooms, the gardens and the territory.

The houses and lands belong to building and agricultural cooperatives of which all the resident Damnahurians are associate members.

According to their own preferences, the Damanhurians live in apartments in the villages of the valley or on farms, in the wood or in rural areas in contact with nature.

Often experiments are carried out in these areas and work is aimed at self sufficiency in food and energy.

Every Damanhurian chooses where and with whom to live, according to their own personal inclinations and their own goals. The children live with their parents while they are small and every citizen feels responsible for their well-being and is involved in looking after them and supporting them.

When they grow up and become adults, after travelling and getting to know people from various parts of the world, they choose what they want to do. For the elderly people, there are structures set up to take care of each person’s needs. Giving attention to the elderly is a point of excellence of the Damanhurian social system, which tends not only to guarantee the very best conditions for an individual, both with their daily well-being and with the assistance that might eventually be needed but above all it tends to value the experience that each elderly person can bring to the others.

No smoking, please! It is forbidden to smoke anywhere on the territory of Damanhur, both indoors and outdoors, as a form of respect for all living forms both physical and subtle.It is also forbidden to use narcotic drugs and make excessive use of alcohol or medicinal drugs.





DerekFromCincinnati - 2/5/2008 at 09:35 PM



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The Constitution of Damanhur

The Fundamental Principles

Damanhur is a school of thought founded by Oberto Airaudi and inspired by his teachings: it is expressed through four bodies: ‘Meditation’, ‘Game of Life’,‘Social’ and 'Tecnarcato'. They respectively represent ritual tradition; experimentation and dynamics, its social realization and individual inner refinement.

The aims of Damanhur are: the freedom and re-awakening of the Human Being as a divine, spiritual and material principle; the creation of a self-sustaining model of life based on ethical principles of good communal living and love; harmonic integration and co-operation with all the Forces linked to the evolution of Humankind.

The Constitution is the fundamental Charter regulating the Social Body, formed by Damanhur’s citizens.

Damanhurian citizens dedicate their life to the application of the principles and aims indicated in the Constitution, and they make a commitment to respect and apply all its norms. The act of becoming a citizen takes different forms, depending on the choice and commitment of the individual.

The Communities represent the ideal form of union and communal living. They are inspired by the principles of solidarity and sharing. The Communities as a whole are organized as a Federation.

Communities belonging to different schools of thought may affiliate with the Federation, even though they do not originate from Damanhur’s school of thought, as long as they are inspired by the same aims.

Out of the creation of a Tradition, a Culture, a History and Common Ethics, a People is born.

1. Citizens are brothers and sisters who help one another through reciprocal trust, respect, clarity, acceptance, solidarity and continuous inner transformation. Everyone is committed to always giving others the opportunity to aim higher.

2. Each citizen makes a commitment to spread positive and harmonious thoughts and to direct every thought and action towards spiritual growth. Each person is socially and spiritually responsible for every action they take, in the awareness that every act is multiplied and reflected through the Synchronic Lines all over the world.

3. Through community life, Damanhur aims to develop individuals whose reciprocal relations are regulated by Knowledge and Consciousness. The fundamental rules of life are common sense, thinking well of others and the welcoming and exaltation of diversity.

4. Work has spiritual value and is understood as a gift of oneself to others. Through it everyone takes part in the material and spiritual progress of the people, carrying out assignments, as they become necessary. Each citizen offers a proportion of his or her work in activities of common interest. Every task is precious and carries the same dignity.

5. Those who take on roles of social responsibility carry out their tasks in a spirit of service, without looking for personal advantage or serving the private interests of others. Only Citizens residing in the Communities may be elected or nominated for positions of social responsibility.

6. Spirituality, research and ecology inspire all relationships with the environment, through the use of appropriate technologies, useful in improving the quality of life.
Every Citizen lives in communion with nature and the subtle forces which inhabit it. Everyone is committed to respect and preserve resources and avoid as far as possible forms of pollution and waste.

7. Each Citizen respects his or her own body, takes care of it and nourishes it harmoniously, refraining from any form of substance abuse. Citizens put into practice rules of life suitable for harmonious physical, mental and spiritual development; they ensure the orderliness and cleanliness of their environment.

Each individual is expected to be capable of self-control, of making mature choices and of manifesting purity in thought and action.

1. 8. Damanhur promotes and supports research both in science and art; it fosters and encourages continual experimentation of both the physical and the non-physical, as long as it is expressed in a harmonious form. All Citizens constantly improve their education and widen and deepen their knowledge in the fields of research, art, work and leisure activities.






DerekFromCincinnati - 2/5/2008 at 09:36 PM



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Becoming a Citizen
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100 New Citizens Project

Do you want to change your Life and create new world?

If you want to be a protagonist of the changesthis new millennium will bring,to research with joy, humor and a touch of Magic,then perhaps we are just what you have been looking for! Damanhur has risen up in a special place, where the energies of the Planet are most intense and life is nearer to Spirit.Here with a few hundred other people who, like you want to renew and renew themselves,you have the possibility of realizing your dreams!

Today with the 100 New Citizens Project, you too can enter the heart of our life and history by following a formative course organized in collaboration with the Bodies of Damanhur: the Social, the School of Meditation and the Game of Life. You can connect with the spiritual and social aspects of life in Damanhur - the greeting, daily ritual, the People, the significance of being a citizen, the value of work etc.

You can visit the community territories, the artistic workshops and studios - glass, mosaic, copper, ceramics, sculpture and the Damanhurian companies - Tentaty organic foods, the Caseificio dairy, the Atelier Damjl weavery etc. We will introduce you to our various health care methods and you can visit our Health Center, you can learn about our philosophy on education and the academic system in our schools. With live accounts from people with first-hand experience, you can relive the historical phases of Damanhur and connect with avant-garde projects such as those connected to Selfica, the inter-stellar game of Risk, nutrition, food and energetic self-sufficiency.

This journey extends for 6 months and is considered as a trial period for the conferment of citizenship. At the end of the six months, if you choose to do so you can become to all effects a citizen of Damanhur. It is an ambitious project, that requires a willingness to play, to be fully present, it gives you the opportunity to grow, to experiment with new things, to meet new people, with fresh ideas and the desire to create.

If you also want to be a builder of Temples and create a new history for all Humanity, do not hesitate, ask to join the 100 New Citizens Project now!
Damanhur is waiting for you!

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DerekFromCincinnati - 2/5/2008 at 09:37 PM



quote:
The Quesiti


The pathway of the Quesiti is a pathway towards the re-awakening of the strength and power inherent in every human being by means of inner transformation and direct action in the material world. It is a pathway that everyone can follow because it is not based upon external forces but on those within the individual.

FIRST QUESITO
a) Complete and responsible action.
c) Purity of Intenti.
b) To live the synchronic moment to the full.

Highest expression
Free will consciously directed.
Action
The atom moves.

SECOND QUESITO

a) Constancy and continuity of action
b) Continuous choice instant by instant to give substance to the first Quesito.
c) To keep one’s word at all cost

Breadth
Temporality.
Continuity of action.
The atom designs.

THIRD QUESITO

a) Inner transformation and
b) rebirth to the sacred
c) through new logic and a qualatitive leap (naturally directed by conscious choice)

a)b)c) formation of a new people and
a)b)c) of a new culture.

Depth
Evolutionary change or transformation.
Trasformation (small illuminations).
The atom defines form.
FOURTH QUESITO
Purely feminine.

a) Non-egoistical conscious availabilty of the self.
b) Dignified perfection and complete respect for the feminine.
c) To be an element of union.

Weight - Content - Density - Substance.
Conscious differentiation (of roles).
The woman stabilizes.
Stabilization (intermediate Illumination).
The atom fills form.


FIFTH QUESITO
(Purely masculine)

a) On-going stability and firmness.
b) Harmonious inner revolution.
c) Intelligent discovery and rediscovery of habits and their reconsideration in order to conquer (the conditioning) of the three rivers.

Movement (Continuous filling and emptying)
Adaption by the exterior to the interior
The atom renews
transformation (Medium illumination)
the atom redisigns in divine thought.
SIXTH QUESITO

a) Inversion of Quesiti 4 and 5. The first of the two becomes masculine and the other becomes feminine.

b) Union generates life. Ritual.

point (b) is divided into three parts:
1) Born out of silence.
2) It makes everything grow and mature. Prayer.
3) Everyone adjusts to the eco-system of the pure I, by the discoveries present in the previous Quests.
Definition of point (b): individual and shared syncretism.

c) Immagination and fantasy: in the sense of art - life.
d) Generosity, goodwill, form, action, formation, education.

The form, the object is now alive; the next step consists of making it real in the mother and echo worlds, making its essence denser in such a way as to render it alchemical, therefore obtain the Spirit of Life, just as life has been obtained from form: the atom of living God, generosity, goodwill and altruism are spin offs of this mecchanism.

e) The search for unification in a human form is the measure (dimension) between things: spiritual fractals.
SEVENTH QUESITO

Uncertainty
Doubt
…as Dogma?
Adaptability


Everything is not as it is or as it could be…..
(nothing is as it seems)
Destruction of certainty
To edify every existence through evolution


We do not posess the soul, it posseses us


We are a point of the all that comprises all.
The non- diversity of Form

The way of the Quesiti that ends here allows one not to lose oneself but find oneself.
The partiality discovered in everything perceived and of every perceiver does not lead to an indifference of action but leads to solidity constructed instant by instant.
Considering with greater clarity and less egoism the chosen existential objectives.
The Quesiti makes sense only after the development of the previous six, just as each one is completed by virtue of its place in the order.

THEMES
Time as a convention is not real.
The material world is empty if Form is empty.
The I of the perceiver is a quasi-real, individual mathematics vary with mood.
The senses limit perception.





DougMacKenzie - 2/5/2008 at 09:54 PM

"I waited patiently for the Lord;
he turned to me and heard my cry.
He lifted me out of the slimy pit,
out of the mud and mire,
he set my feet on a rock
and gave me a firm place to stand.
He put a new song in my mouth,
a hym of praise to our God.
Many will see and fear
and put their trust in the Lord."

Ps. 40:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 2/6/2008 at 11:02 PM

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a pharisee and the other a tax collector. The pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men - robbers, evildoers, adulterers - or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Luke 18:10-14


DougMacKenzie - 2/7/2008 at 11:27 PM

Then Jesus said to his host, "When you give a luncheon or dinner, do not invite your friends, your brothers or relatives, or your rich neighbors. If you do, they may invite you back and so you will be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the ressurection of the righteous."

Luke 14:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 2/9/2008 at 03:03 PM

"Therefore, put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with whcih you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occassions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints."

Eph. 6:13-18


DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2008 at 05:27 PM

One of the things I've become aware of over the last year or so is the way I have listened to "the accuser." That voice that accuses others of being this, that, or another thing, always in a negative light, and in a way that somehow deserves a response from me to "correct" them in some way. That voice that tells me I deserve more or better, or more recognition, or a better reward, or a better this or more of that. the voice that tells me God won't do the things he has said he will do, that my faith is in vain, that I can only trust myself. The voice of restlessness, discontent. It distracts me from God's voice of peace and mercy when I let it; it distracts me from those things that are noble and good; it distracts me from being thankful and appreciative. I have discovered that whenever I find myself anything but happy, joyous, and free, it is becuase I am listening to this other voice. The more I become aware of this process, the quicker I am able to turn to God in the Spirit and prayer, and the sooner I can return to peace and joy. it is not about others or what they are doing, or the current situation, or events around me; it is about me and what I am doing and my orientation toward God.

"Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
'Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.'"

Rev. 12:10


DougMacKenzie - 2/11/2008 at 12:09 PM

"And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgement, because in this world we are like him. There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect inl ove.
We love becuase he first loved us. If anyone says,"I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother."

I John4:16-21


DougMacKenzie - 2/12/2008 at 12:22 PM

"Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
or with the breadth of his hand marked marked off the heavens?
Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket,
or weighed the mountains on the scales or the hills in a balance?
Who has understood the mind of the Lord,
or instructed him as his counselor?
Whom did the Lord consult to enlighten him,
and who taught him the right way?
Who was it that taught him knowledge
or showed him the path of understanding?"

Is. 40:12-14

[Edited on 2/12/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 2/14/2008 at 02:32 AM

Sometimes life is just good.

"God is our refuge and strength, an ever present help in times of trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
though the waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging."
Selah

Ps. 46:1-3


piacere - 2/14/2008 at 05:04 AM

"...the Lord's unfailing love surrounds the man who trusts in him..."

Psalm 32:10


DougMacKenzie - 2/14/2008 at 12:19 PM

"Who can straighten what is made crooked?
When times are good, be happy;
but when times are bad, consider:
God has made the one as well as the other."

Ecc. 7:13-14


skyponydogboy - 2/14/2008 at 07:00 PM

What don't kill ya is supposed to make you stronger......
I ought to be a damn Superman by now!


DougMacKenzie - 2/14/2008 at 10:56 PM

quote:
What don't kill ya is supposed to make you stronger......
I ought to be a damn Superman by now!

I hear 'ya dogboy. My son and i have had this conversation about what we will do when we get to heaven. We agreed we would go flying, just like superman.....so who knows? Maybe we're closer than we think.

"Trust in the Lord and do good; dwell in the land
and enjoy safe pasture.
Delight yourself in the Lord
and he will give you the desires of your heart."

Ps. 37:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 2/15/2008 at 10:23 PM

I am so thankful for my wife and all that she has meant and means to me. I really can't imagine life without her.

"How beautirful you are and how pleasing, O love, with your delights!
Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
I said, "I will climb the plam tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.
May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,
and your mouth like the best wine."

Song of Songs 7:7-9


DougMacKenzie - 2/16/2008 at 03:28 PM

"Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters;
and you who have no money, come, buy and eat.
Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.
Why spend money on what is not bread,
and your labor on what does not satisfy?
Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good,
and your soul will delight in the richest of fare."


Is. 55:1-2


piacere - 2/16/2008 at 04:47 PM

my old sig.

"You do not realize now what I am doing but later, you will understand"

John 13:7


DougMacKenzie - 2/17/2008 at 02:37 PM

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord.
"As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways,
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
As the rain and snow come down from heaven,
and do not return to it without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
So is my word that goes out from my mouth:
It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire
and achieve the purpose for which I sent it."

Is 55:8-11


DougMacKenzie - 2/17/2008 at 04:52 PM

The deputy walks on hard nails, the preacher rides a mount
Nothing really matters much, it's doom alone that counts
And the one-eyed undertaker blows a futile horn
"Come in," she said, "I'll give 'ya
Shelter from the storm."

I miss Bobo.


DougMacKenzie - 2/18/2008 at 12:10 PM

"Why are you downcast, O my soul?
Why so disturbed within me?
Put your hope in God,for I will yet praise him
my Saviour and my God."

Ps. 42:11


DougMacKenzie - 2/19/2008 at 12:22 PM

He also said, "This is what the kingdom of God is like. A man scatters seed on the ground. Night and day, whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not know how. All by itself the soil produces grain - first the stalk, then the head, then the full kernel in the head. As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to it, becuase the harvest has come."

Mark 4:28-29


DougMacKenzie - 2/20/2008 at 09:56 PM

"Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we possess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are - yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may recieve mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."

Heb. 4:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 2/21/2008 at 12:33 PM

"Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good? But even if you should suffer for doing right, you are blessed."

I Peter 3:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 2/23/2008 at 03:22 AM

"Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and llet us run with perseverence the race marked out for us. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart."

Heb. 12:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 2/24/2008 at 03:21 AM

"And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jepthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, who through faith conquered kingdoms, adminstered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. Women recieved back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. They were stoned, they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatsins, destitue, persecuted and mistreated - the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and in holes in the ground.
These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them recieved what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect."

Heb. 11: 32-40


DougMacKenzie - 2/24/2008 at 02:17 PM

"Create in me a pure heart. O God,
and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
Do not cast me from your presence
or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Restore to me the joy of your salvation
and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me."

Ps. 51:10-12


DougMacKenzie - 2/28/2008 at 10:11 PM

Well.....got a call today from my Dr. after getting annual bloodwork, including my first PSA test. They are refering me to a urologist becuase my PSA level is 5.6, normal range is 0-4. Some quick research says it could be nothing, could be something. Here's hoping its nothing. Kind of unnerving just to consider the posibilities...especially with my kids being so young.

"Surely God is my help,
the Lord is the one who sustains me."

Ps. 54:4


Enzo - 3/4/2008 at 01:17 AM

Hey Doug ,
brother , I just finished reading your post. I'm sorry I didn't lOOk for the Shelter thread
before. I'll put you and your family in my prayers. Try to keep your focus and stay in the WORD.
Head up!


DougMacKenzie - 3/4/2008 at 02:20 AM

Thanks brother. Doing my best to follow your advice. Its all good.


WharfRat - 3/4/2008 at 02:23 AM

Keeping you in my prayers bro


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2008 at 03:55 AM

That day, when evening came, he said to his disciples, "Let us go over to the other side."
Leaving the crowd behind, they took him along, just as he was, in the boat. There were also other boats with him. A furious squall came up, and the waves broke over the boat, so that it was nearly swamped. Jesus was in the stern, sleeping on a cushion. The disciples woke him and said to him, "Teacher, don't you care if we drown?"
He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, "Quiet! Be still!" Then the wind died down and it was completely calm. He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
They were terrified and asked each other, "Who is this? Even the wind and the waves obey him."

Mark 4:35-41


ruthelane - 3/8/2008 at 04:14 AM

Doug, I will be thinking about you and saying a prayer for you.
Sending you love on a wing. I'm hoping you will get well soon.
Ruthie


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2008 at 04:15 AM

Thanks Otie. Off to the Doc Monday. I've decided I'm not gonna let it be a big deal either way. I can't control what happens, only my attitude and how I deal with it.


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2008 at 04:29 AM

quote:
Doug, I will be thinking about you and saying a prayer for you.
Sending you love on a wing. I'm hoping you will get well soon.
Ruthie

Hey, thanks Ruth, but really, I'm not sick. Feelin' fine, life is good. Just an elevated PSA test, no big deal, at least not at this time. I'll know more Monday. I'll still take all the prayers I can get though, I need them!


DougMacKenzie - 3/9/2008 at 07:50 PM

"When I am afraid, I will trust in you.
In God, whose word I praise,
in God I trust; I will not be afraid
What can mortal man do to me?"

Ps 56:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 3/10/2008 at 11:04 AM

"......The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."

Gal.5:6


DougMacKenzie - 3/11/2008 at 01:44 AM

Well, went to the Urologist today, and he didn't like what he found. So now I have to get a biopsy. This really wasn't what I was hoping for, but it is what it is. Doc said for someone my age (51) to have the elevated PSA I do that the odds are about 30% that it could be cancer. Which means a 70% chance that it's not. So it's on to the biopsy to find out for sure. Still could be nothing but a case of prostatitiis, which at this point would be nice. Interesting place to find one's self, to say the least.

"O my strength, I watch for you;
you, O God, are my fortress, my loving God."

Ps. 59: 9-10


DougMacKenzie - 3/11/2008 at 10:36 AM

"Hear my cry, O God, listen to my prayer.
From the ends of the earth I call to you,
I call as my heart grows faint;
lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
For you have been my refuge,
a strong tower against the foe."

Ps. 61:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 3/13/2008 at 11:21 AM

"When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: 'Death has been swallowed up in victory.'
"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?"
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

I Cor.15: 54-58


DougMacKenzie - 3/14/2008 at 11:19 AM

"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the god aof all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God."

II Cor. 1:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 3/16/2008 at 12:36 PM

Things keep getting more and more interesting. Got my scond PSA result back, it was elevated over the first one, so no fluke there. Will have to go through with the biopsy. And my wife just got a call about her mammogram, they want to do some more tests on her. She is only 43. Neither one of us has any history of this kind of stuff in our family. Still could be much ado about nothing, but it does shake your world. I find muyself mentally preparing to leave this world, and it gives me a whole new perspective on God and my relationship with him, and a certain peace about everything that is different from anything I've known before. Of course, I hope this all turns out to be nothing, but today all I feel is peace.

"Sir", the woman said, "You have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us this well, and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?"
Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up into eternal life."

John 4:11-14


DougMacKenzie - 3/17/2008 at 12:10 PM

"The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:5


DougMacKenzie - 3/18/2008 at 11:30 AM

"I have told you these things so that you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

John 16:33


DougMacKenzie - 3/19/2008 at 12:41 PM

"My soul finds rest in God alone;
my salvation comes from him.
He alone is my rock and my salvation;
he is my fortress, I will never be shaken."

Ps. 62:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 3/20/2008 at 09:30 AM

I'm beginning to remember something I used to know and forgot; there is no person, no human being on this planet, who can bring peace to this earth, or peace to any one of us as individuals. We have to choose that peace, and that means giving up something. That something is insisting on our own way. That something is being angry with each other and keeping track of the wrongs of others rather than being forgiving and seeking forgiveness. That something is impatience, rudeness, envy; stretching, bending, and distorting the truth to fit our needs. That something is boastfulness and self serving pride. That something is loss of trust and hope. Only God can move in us and allow us to give up those things, to truly be free of them and at peace.

"Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things. Now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

I Cor. 13: 8-12


DougMacKenzie - 3/21/2008 at 12:03 PM

On a little hilltop village, they gambled for my clothes
I asked her for salvation and she gave me a lethal dose
I offered up my innocence and got repaid with scorn
"Come in" she said, "I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 3/22/2008 at 03:36 PM

Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him."
So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus' head. The cloth was folded up by itself, seperate from the linen. Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. (They still did not understand from scripture that Jesus had risen from the dead).
Then the disciples went back to their homes, but Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus' body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
They asked her, "Woman, why are you crying?"
"They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they have put him." At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.
"Woman,", he said, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?"
Thinking it was the gardner, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him."
Jesus said to her, "Mary."
She turned toward him and cried out, "Teacher!"
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."
Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news: "I have seen the Lord!" And she told them that he had said these things to her.

John 20: 1-18

Happy Easter everybody.


Enzo - 3/22/2008 at 06:36 PM

posted on 3/10/2008 at 08:44 PM
Well, went to the Urologist today, and he didn't like what he found. So now I have to get a biopsy. This really wasn't what I was hoping for, but it is what it is. Doc said for someone my age (51) to have the elevated PSA I do that the odds are about 30% that it could be cancer. Which means a 70% chance that it's not. So it's on to the biopsy to find out for sure. Still could be nothing but a case of prostatitiis, which at this point would be nice. Interesting place to find one's self, to say the least.

"O my strength, I watch for you;
you, O God, are my fortress, my loving God."


Ps. 59: 9-10

Doug ,
so , this confidence & strength you have , where does this come from ?

you and your family remain in my prayers , Doug.

David

[Edited on 3/22/2008 by Enzo]


Stephen - 3/23/2008 at 11:13 PM

I feel a little guilty about having to rush through things here on the website nowadays, but having read the recent posts -- brother Doug, I hope all is well & you're in my thoughts -- likewise to you too, Enzo -- Happy Easter to all the nice people here


ruthelane - 3/24/2008 at 02:19 AM

I'm thinking of you, Doug, and hoping and praying for you.
For a good outcome.


DougMacKenzie - 3/24/2008 at 11:14 AM

"Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious for anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will gaurd your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus."

Phil. 4:4-7


DougMacKenzie - 3/25/2008 at 10:50 AM

"I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength."

Phil. 4:11-13
That is where I want to be.


Stephen - 3/26/2008 at 04:19 PM

quote:
"I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength."

Phil. 4:11-13
That is where I want to be.


Me too Doug -- & it's where I find myself when in the great outdoors
The outdoors is my church -- to be able to look out at views that the passage of time cannot affect, to appreciate beauty that has not changed since the beginning of time, is quite spellbinding -- it has a powerful way of putting things in perspective -- that is -- that we're just interlopers -- animals are the offspring of Mother Nature, they were the first living things -- Native Americans realized that and showed them great respect -- then along came the white man, and there went the buffalo, Indian tribes, run off their land in the name of railroads, gold rushes & other such "progress"
Peace -- hope this makes sense & is in keeping with the thread


ruthelane - 3/26/2008 at 07:39 PM

Stephen, that is a very nice post and you are right.

Doug I continue to enjoy reading your posts.


Enzo - 3/27/2008 at 02:26 AM

Cry out to JESUS - Third Day (2005)

To everyone who's lost someone they love , long before it was their time.
You feel like the days you had were not enough , when you said goodbye.

And to all of the people with burdens and pains , keepin' you back from your life.
You believe that there's nothing , and there is no one who can make it right.

There is hope for the helpless, rest for the weary,
and love for the broken hearts.
There is grace and forgiveness, mercy and healing
He'll meet you wherever you are.

Cry out to Jesus. Cry out to Jesus.

For the marriage that's struggling just to hang on , They lost all of their faith in love.
and they've done all they can to make it right again , still it's not enough.

For the ones who can't break the addictions and chains
you try to give up but you come back again.
Just remember that you're not alone , in your shame and your suffering.

There is hope for the helpless, rest for the weary,
and love for the broken hearts.
There is grace and forgiveness, mercy and healing
He'll meet you wherever you are.

Cry out to Jesus.

When you're lonely and it feels like the whole world is falling on you
you just reach out, you just cry out to Jesus

Cry to Jesus.

To the widow who suffers from being alone, wipin' the tears from her eyes.
For the children around the world without a home,
say a prayer tonight.

There is hope for the helpless, rest for the weary,
and love for the broken hearts.
There is grace and forgiveness, mercy and healing
that meets you wherever you are.
There is hope for the helpless, rest for the weary,
and love for the broken hearts.
There is grace and forgiveness, mercy and healing
that meets you wherever you are.

Cry out to Jesus. Cry out to Jesus.

Cry out to Jesus. Cry out to Jesus.

We have hope ! ..........


DougMacKenzie - 3/27/2008 at 11:16 AM

"Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

2 Cor. 4:16-18

Thanks for those great posts.


Enzo - 3/29/2008 at 08:18 PM

where you be ,,, Doug?


DougMacKenzie - 3/30/2008 at 12:25 PM

"Oh God, you are my God,
earnestly I will seek you;
my soul thirsts for you,
my body longs for you,
in a dry and weary land
where there is no water.

I have seen you in the sanctuary
and beheld your power and your glory.
Because your love is better than life
my lips will glorify you.
I will praise you as long as I live
and in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul will be satisfied as
with the richest of foods;
with singing lips my mouth
will praise you.

On my bed I will remember you;
I think of you through the
watches of the night.
Becasue you aremy help,
I will sing in the shadow of your wings.
My soul clings to you;
Your right hand upholds me."

PS 63:1-8

Hey Enzo


Enzo - 3/30/2008 at 06:46 PM

Doug ,
check this out : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upGCMl_b0n4

awesome





DougMacKenzie - 3/31/2008 at 01:10 AM

That's my king. I was talking with a sister this week, and she described the moment she knew Jesus died for her, personally, because he loved her, personally, that much. Awesome.


DougMacKenzie - 4/1/2008 at 11:18 AM

"Come and listen, all you who fear God;
let me tell you what he has done for me.
I cried out to him with my mouth;
his praise was on my tongue.
If I had cherished sin in my heart,
the Lord would not have listened;
but God has surely listened
and heard my voice in prayer.
Praise be to God,
who has not rejected my prayer
or witheld his love from me."

Ps. 66:16-20


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2008 at 02:46 AM

We found out today that my wife just has a cyst, nothing to be alarmed about. Thank God for that. I just don't know if I have the courage and faith that others have exhibited here to go through something as difficult as a terminal illness in a spouse. I've tried not to worry about it, but this a huge relief. I still have a couple of weeks to find out about my situation, so here's hoping for the best.


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2008 at 11:02 AM

"But as for me, I will always have hope.
I wiill praise you more and more.
My mouth will tell of your righteousness,
of your salvation all day long,
though I know not its measure.
I will come and proclaim your mighty acts,
O Sovereign Lord;
I will proclaim your righteousness,
yours alone.
Since my youth, O God,
you have taught me, and
to this day I declare your marvelous deeds.
Even when I am old and gray,
do not forsake me, O God,
till I declare your power to the next generation,
your might to all who are to come."

Ps. 71:14-18


DougMacKenzie - 4/4/2008 at 02:43 AM

When my life is over, I'm gonna stand before the Father
and the sisters of the Son are gonna rock me on the water
Rock me on the water
Sister won't you soothe my fevered brow
Rock me on the water
Maybe I'll remember
Maybe I'll remember now


DougMacKenzie - 4/4/2008 at 11:21 AM

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Matt. 11:28-30


DougMacKenzie - 4/5/2008 at 02:26 PM

"Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus."

Phil. 3:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 4/6/2008 at 11:53 PM

"But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, for I know that through your prayers and the help given by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance. I eagerly expect and hope that in no way will I be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain."

Phil. 1:18-21

[Edited on 4/6/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 4/7/2008 at 10:51 AM

"When my heart was grieved and my spirit embittered,
I was sensless and arrogant;
I was a brute beast before you.
Yet I am always with you;
you hold me by my right hand.
You guide me with your counsel,
and afterwards you will take me into glory.
Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
My flesh and my heart may fail,
But God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever."

Ps. 73:21-26


DougMacKenzie - 4/9/2008 at 09:32 PM

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treausre is, there your heart willb e also."

Matt. 6:19-21


DougMacKenzie - 4/10/2008 at 11:32 AM

Had my biopsy performed yesterday, a very highly unpleasant and uncomfortable proceedure, I can assure you. Glad that is over. Now I have to wait a week to find out the reults, so here's hoping ifor the best.

"Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere;
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
For the Lord God is a sun and shield;
The Lord bestows favor and honor;
no good thing does he withhold
from those whose walk is blameless'
O lord Almighty, blessed is the man who trusts in you."

Ps.n 84:10-12


Enzo - 4/11/2008 at 02:11 AM

My flesh and my heart may fail,
But God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever."


brother Doug , I don't have the words to express but you remain in my prayers as well
as your little misses and family. The wait is hard , and your strength and courage is of the LORD.


Stephen - 4/11/2008 at 08:34 PM

Thinking of you brother -- your faith will stand you in good stead -- my very best indeed


DougMacKenzie - 4/12/2008 at 10:56 AM

Thanks guys.

"Love and faithfullness meet together;
righteousness and peace kiss each other.
Faithfullness springs forth from the earth,
and righteousness looks down from heaven.
The Lord will indeed give what is good,
and our land will yield its harvest."

Ps. 85:10-12


DougMacKenzie - 4/14/2008 at 01:53 AM

Getting a little anxious to find out what the heck is going on, really hoping it is nothing. Wednesday can't get here soon enough. Knowing will boviously be way better than wondering. Things are still hard for us right now, but we seem to be getting closer as a family and learning to rely on God more, so I guess everything is really OK.


Stephen - 4/16/2008 at 04:21 PM

Sending positive vibes Doug -- hoping today's test result will be AOK -- best to you brother


DougMacKenzie - 4/17/2008 at 02:11 AM

Thanks Stephen. Results of the biopsy were negative - no cancer. Can't even begin to explain what a relief that is, and I feel very fortunate and blessed. Just have to get my PSA levels every six months for now, and i can handle that just fine!

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now am found
Was blind, but now I see.


Enzo - 4/17/2008 at 02:15 AM

Amen brother , glad it's going your way ..........

[Edited on 4/20/2008 by Enzo]


DougMacKenzie - 4/18/2008 at 11:32 AM

Hey Enzo!

Huge storm came through here last night, lots of BIG hail, rotation, wind damge, and flooding, but no funnels. We escaped without any damage, but it was intersting there for a little while. Things are still very tight right now, but we are making it, and at least our health concerns have been alleviated. One day closer to fine.

"This, then, is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come, your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."

Matt. 6:9-15


DougMacKenzie - 4/19/2008 at 02:13 PM

"So when you give to the needy,do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matt. 6:2-4


DougMacKenzie - 4/20/2008 at 02:40 AM

"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the keys to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He siezed the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time."
Rev. 20:1-3

"....And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfer, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
Rev. 20: 10


DougMacKenzie - 4/20/2008 at 09:33 PM

Sometimes at church during the worship part the music is so good and moving I can actually experience being in the throne room of God among the multitude of voices worshipping and praising our Lord from the center of their being. Never thought I would ever think of church that way.

You and I were made to worship
You and I were called to love
You and I are forgiven and free
You and I embrace surrender
You and I choose to believe
You and I will see
What we were meant to be


DougMacKenzie - 4/22/2008 at 11:17 AM

"Hear, O Lord, and answer me,
for I am poor and needy.
Gaurd my life, for I am devoted to you.
You are my God; save your servant, who trusts in you.
Have mercy on me, O Lord,
for I call to you all day long.
Bring joy to your servant,
for to you, O Lord, I lift up my soul.
You are forgiving and good, O Lord,
abounding in love to all who call to you.
Hear my prayer, O Lord,
listen to my cry for mercy.
In the day of my trouble I will call to you,
for you will answer me."

Ps. 86:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 4/25/2008 at 01:17 AM

Sometimes I feel
Like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel
Like a motherless child
Sometimes i feel
Like a motherless child
A long
Long way
From my home.


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2008 at 10:04 AM

"Teach me your way, O lOrd,
and i will walk in your truth;
give me an undivided heart,
that I may fear your name.
I will praise you, O Lord my God
with all my heart.
I will glorify your name forever.
For great is your love toward me;
you have delivered me from the depths of the grave."

Ps. 86:11-13


DougMacKenzie - 4/27/2008 at 11:12 AM

"Shout for joy, O heavens;
rejoice, O earth;
burst into song,
O mountains!
For the Lord comforts his people
and will have compassion
on his afflicted ones."

Is. 49:13


DougMacKenzie - 4/29/2008 at 11:35 AM

"And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverence; perseverence, character, and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Rom. 5:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 5/1/2008 at 11:19 AM

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

Ro. 8:28


DougMacKenzie - 5/2/2008 at 10:37 AM

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the lo9ve of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Ro. 8:38-39


DougMacKenzie - 5/3/2008 at 02:05 PM

I was thinking last night about how wonderful true fellowship is,that time we get to spend with others talking about real things that really matter, and how important that is, how it opens us up for a spiritual flow that goes from the Creator to you to me and back again, while also flowing the opposite way, from the Creator to me to you and back to the Creator again. What a cleansing, freeing experience that is, to be able to share who you really are with others and get the same back from them, warts and all, and it still be OK.

"For wherever tow or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

Matt. 18:20


DougMacKenzie - 5/4/2008 at 11:03 AM

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Matt. 5:2-10


Enzo - 5/4/2008 at 05:40 PM

(posted on 5/4/2008 at 05:03 AM)

dang Doug , you get around early .....

' we must pay more careful attention, therefore , to what we have heard ,
so that we do not drift away '
Hebrews 2:1


DougMacKenzie - 5/5/2008 at 11:37 AM

"And when John heard in prison what Christ was doing, he sent his disciples to ask him, "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?"
Jesus replied, "Go back and tell John what you hear and see: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me."

Matt. 11:4-6

Enzo


DougMacKenzie - 5/7/2008 at 10:57 AM

"To what shall I compare this generation> They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others:

'We played the flute for you, and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not mourn.'

For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her actions."

Matt. 11:16-19


DougMacKenzie - 5/8/2008 at 10:51 AM

"I will sing of the Lord's great love forever;
with my mouth I will make
your faithfullness known
through all generations.
I will declare that your love stands forever,
that you established your faithfullness
in heaven itself."

Ps. 89:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 5/10/2008 at 10:49 AM

"It is good to praise the Lord and
make music in your name, O Most High,
to proclaim your love in the morning and
your faithfulness at night,
by the music of the ten stringed lyre
and the melody of the harp."

Ps. 92:1-3


gina - 5/10/2008 at 04:27 PM

The Chief Musician of his stringed instruments mentioned in many of the psalms is Duane Allman, Doug.


DougMacKenzie - 5/11/2008 at 01:55 PM

"Come, let us sing for joy to the Lord:
let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
Let us come before him with thanksgiving
and extol him with music and song.

For the Lord is the great God,
the great King above all gods.
In his hand are the depths of the earth,
and the mountain peaks belong to him.
The sea is his, for he made it,
and his hands formed the dry land.

Come, let us bow down in worship,
let us kneel before the Lord our Maker;
for he is our God and we are
the people of his pasture,
the flock under his care.

Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts."

Ps. 95:1-8


DougMacKenzie - 7/3/2008 at 07:46 PM

Sometimes life is just good, and those good moments, those lasting, endearing experiences that we cherish, are so often able to overcome the hard times, or at least get us through. It's not always easy to remember that "this too shall pass." Thoughts out to any who are struggling this day as we move to the holiday weekend. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, and that light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.


DougMacKenzie - 7/6/2008 at 12:08 PM

Walk along the river
sweet lullabye
It just keeps on flowing
It don't worry about wherem its going

You're my blue sky
You're my sunny day
Lord you know it makes me high
When you turn your love my way
Turn your love my way.


DougMacKenzie - 7/14/2008 at 02:27 PM

"I waited patiently for the Lord:
he turned to me and heard my cry.
He lifted me out of the slimy pit,
out of the mud and mire:
he set my feet on a rock
and gave me a firm place to strand.
He put a new song in my mouth,
a hymn of praise to our God.
Many will see and hear,
put their trust in the Lord."

Ps. 40:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 7/15/2008 at 03:28 PM

Seems like so many here are experiencing difficult times, and I am so grateful for those that share theri difficulties and ask for help. Helps me to remember I am not alone in my struggles, or those of my family. I have found that through these struggles I come to know God better, rely on him more, trust him more, and through that, live more like he wants me to live. Somehow he turns the hard things and hard times in to blessings, and that, to me, is truly a miracle.

"But the fruit of the spirit is love, jo, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

Galations 5:22-23


DougMacKenzie - 7/16/2008 at 12:00 PM

"Shout with joy to the Lord, all the earth.
Worship the Lord with gladness;
come before him with joyful songs.
Know that the Lord is God.
It is he who made us, and we are his;
we are his people, the sheep of his pasture.

Enter his gates with thqanksgiving,
and his courts with praise;
give thanks to him and praise his name.
For the Lord is good and his love endures forever;
his faithfulness continues through all generations."

Ps.100


DougMacKenzie - 7/17/2008 at 11:39 AM

On a little hilltop village they gambled for my clothes
I asked her for salvation and she gave me a lethal dose
I offered up my innocence and got repaid with scorn
"Come in", she said, "I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 7/20/2008 at 04:12 PM

"Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good,
his love endures forever."

Ps. 106:1


piacere - 7/27/2008 at 03:23 PM

persevere bretheren, persevere.


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2008 at 06:45 PM

I see lots of folks here continuing to experience difficult times, and I know of many others personally who have had struggles of late. I really don't understand why hard and bad things happen, but I do know that in the end all things work for good, the circle will be completed, light wins over darkness, good triumphs over evil. I get to experience the wonderful miracle of a relationship with a loving God, whose mind and ways I don't understand, but who I trust with everything I have, and who has never let me down.

"Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Romans 5:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 7/29/2008 at 06:08 PM

"Through him all things were made; without him nothin ghas been made that was made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darknes, and the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2008 at 03:09 AM

For all those who have gone on before us this past year....

"In my Fahter's house there are many rooms. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go there to prepare a place for you, so that where I am you may be also."


DougMacKenzie - 8/4/2008 at 03:42 AM

We are all so flawed as human beings, anjd I think we can all easily agree on that. But there are so many good (albeit flawed) people out there, good hearted people who try so hard to treat others with love and compassion and understanding, that I think we have to take heart. This world is a screwed up place, but as long as we do not let our goodness, our love for one another, grow cold, we will always have the possibility of a better tomorrow. Here's to that possibility.


DougMacKenzie - 8/7/2008 at 12:29 AM

"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:23-24

Seems appropriate.


piacere - 8/7/2008 at 01:04 AM

been studying Matt. for about a week now.

good stuff, brother.


Mudflapgirl - 8/7/2008 at 01:04 AM

quote:
We are all so flawed as human beings, anjd I think we can all easily agree on that. But there are so many good (albeit flawed) people out there, good hearted people who try so hard to treat others with love and compassion and understanding, that I think we have to take heart. This world is a screwed up place, but as long as we do not let our goodness, our love for one another, grow cold, we will always have the possibility of a better tomorrow. Here's to that possibility.


Here, Here!


piacere - 8/7/2008 at 01:13 AM

"Mudflapgirl"

cool uname.

I think I told you that before....

Hey DUG man, blessed are the peacemakers. Mt. 5:9


DougMacKenzie - 8/10/2008 at 12:57 PM

" A voice says, "Cry out."
And I said, "What shall I cry?"
"All men are like grass, and all their glory
is like th flower of the field.
The grass withers and the flowers fall,
because the breath of the Lord blows on them.
Surely the people are grass.
The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our Lord stands forever."

Isaiah 40:6-8


piacere - 9/9/2008 at 01:17 PM

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, trust also in me."

John 14:1


piacere - 9/10/2008 at 11:41 AM

" I have told you these things so that you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart ! I have overcome the world"

John 16:33


piacere - 9/11/2008 at 05:09 PM

For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn instead to myths. But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

2Ti 4: 3-5


piacere - 9/12/2008 at 12:44 PM

"...we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense---Jesus Christ, the Righteous One"

1Jn 1:1


piacere - 9/13/2008 at 10:05 AM

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

1Co. 13:13


piacere - 9/15/2008 at 10:08 AM

Jesus said; "Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these"

Mt. 19:14


piacere - 9/20/2008 at 11:15 AM

"Come, follow me"

---pretty much throughout the NT.


DougMacKenzie - 9/20/2008 at 02:25 PM

"Trust in the Lord and do good,
dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you
the desires of your heart."

Ps. 37:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 9/21/2008 at 12:28 PM

You're my blue sky
You're my sunny day
Lord you know it makes me high
When you turn your love my way
Turn your love my way


Enzo - 9/21/2008 at 04:12 PM

GOD of wonders

Lord of all creation of water, earth and sky
The heavens are Your tabernacle
Glory to the Lord on high

God of wonders, beyond our galaxy
You are holy, holy
The universe declares Your majesty
You are holy, holy
Lord of heaven and earth

Early in the morning I will celebrate the light
When I stumble in the darkness , I call Your name by night


piacere - 9/22/2008 at 12:09 AM

quote:
GOD of wonders

Lord of all creation of water, earth and sky
The heavens are Your tabernacle
Glory to the Lord on high

God of wonders, beyond our galaxy
You are holy, holy
The universe declares Your majesty
You are holy, holy
Lord of heaven and earth

Early in the morning I will celebrate the light
When I stumble in the darkness , I call Your name by night



uhhhhh, Enzo? Do you go to CCF?

We sang that song in church today !!!


Enzo - 9/22/2008 at 02:44 AM

I'm way south of CCF, brother. I attend FBE here in Sw Mongoilia ( Oklahoma ) .


Early in the morning I will celebrate the light
When I stumble in the darkness , I call Your name by night


I need HIM !


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2008 at 04:20 AM

At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, many people's love will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."

Matt. 24: 10-13

Glad you guys are around.


piacere - 9/22/2008 at 12:45 PM

...those who look to Him are radiant;
their faces are never covered with shame...

Ps. 34:5


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2008 at 10:21 PM

"For the Lord is good and his love endures forever;
his faithfullness continues through all generations."

Ps. 100:5


piacere - 9/23/2008 at 01:27 PM

Man, how would ya have loved to have been in the room to hear Jesus' voice when he said, "Yes, it is as you say".

I'm living my life these days to hear that voice say, "Welcome Mark...and well done"


DougMacKenzie - 9/23/2008 at 09:59 PM

"The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice."

John 10:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 9/24/2008 at 11:37 AM

I want to be of more use, more service. To quit being caught up in my own plans and desires and instead give myself over to the service of the King. To lose myself in that service and in so doing become who I was created to be. To one day hear those words,"Well done, my good and faithful servant."


piacere - 9/25/2008 at 01:42 AM

quote:
I want to be of more use, more service. To quit being caught up in my own plans and desires and instead give myself over to the service of the King. To lose myself in that service and in so doing become who I was created to be. To one day hear those words,"Well done, my good and faithful servant."


and my brother, if it's his will I arrive before you, I'll save you a seat at the table.


DougMacKenzie - 9/25/2008 at 02:33 AM

quote:
quote:
I want to be of more use, more service. To quit being caught up in my own plans and desires and instead give myself over to the service of the King. To lose myself in that service and in so doing become who I was created to be. To one day hear those words,"Well done, my good and faithful servant."


and my brother, if it's his will I arrive before you, I'll save you a seat at the table.



Just be sure and save me some of the food, too.


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2008 at 03:29 AM

"The theif comes in to steal kill and destroy. I come that they may have life, and have it abundantly."

Joun 10:10


piacere - 9/26/2008 at 01:30 PM

"Come with me to a quiet place and get some rest"

Mark 6:31


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2008 at 09:55 PM

"Be still, and know that I am God."


piacere - 9/27/2008 at 01:34 PM

" I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God."

Luke 12:8


DougMacKenzie - 9/27/2008 at 10:03 PM

Thank you, Lord, for breaking down the walls of fear and anger inside me that I may enjoy your creation and those people you put into my life more every day. That you for the joy you have put into my life. Amen


piacere - 9/28/2008 at 01:31 AM

often, the greatest way to express wisdom is to be silent...

[Edited on 9/28/2008 by piacere]


piacere - 9/28/2008 at 01:31 AM


piacere - 9/28/2008 at 10:28 AM

Sunday mornin' pre-church bump....


Enzo - 9/28/2008 at 09:42 PM

Isaiah 43 : 1-3

“ Fear not, for I have redeemed you;
I have called you by your name;
You are Mine.
2 When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.
3 For I am the LORD your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior




DougMacKenzie - 9/29/2008 at 11:32 AM

Lord, thank you for your creation and the opportunity to share it and explore it with your children. I ask that you contniually fill me with the awe and wonder I see in their eyes. Amen.


piacere - 9/30/2008 at 01:35 PM

last night around 10-ish, I'm hungry, don't feel like cookin' and there's nothing I feel like having so I go to the supermarket.

I'm walking by the deli counter on my way through the store and there's a woman working there, early 30's, cleaning the meat cutting machines and she's all alone and crying. I asked her what's wrong. Her mom died 2 weeks ago and she's having a tough time with stress and anxiety and stuff.

Long story short (it was actually 15 minutes of witnessing...) Jesus=peace, comfort and a joy that surpasses whatever circumstances fall in front of us.

One of the last things she said to me was: "Thank you Mark, I feel a nice soft warmth now"

I'd like to think it was my words/delivery/charm but it wasn't. I was actually praying for the woman as I was talking and listening and the Holy Spirit went to work on her.

Made me feel great.


DougMacKenzie - 10/1/2008 at 11:42 AM

'Sir", the woman said,"you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us this well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?"
Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks from this well will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

Jn. 4:11-14


DougMacKenzie - 10/2/2008 at 11:43 AM

Twas in another lifetime
One of toil and blood
Where blackness was a virtue
And the road was full of mud
I came in from the wilderness
A creature void of form
"Come in", she said,"I'll give 'ya
Shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 10/4/2008 at 02:48 AM

"The thief comes only to kill and steal and destroy; I come that they might hove life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10


piacere - 10/4/2008 at 03:05 PM

" A word aptly spoken is like apples of gold in settings of silver"

Proverbs 25:11


DougMacKenzie - 10/5/2008 at 06:42 PM

With so many antagonistic posts and psters here these days and so much animosity in general it seems it can be hard to let those type things go and stay focused on the good people and be able to have legitimate disagreements on issues. I like the old saying I first heard in AA;

"Always reminding us to place principles before personalties."

Amen.


DougMacKenzie - 10/7/2008 at 01:22 AM

"The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:5


piacere - 10/8/2008 at 02:02 PM

in response to the "anyone else hurting out there" thread...

Luke 12:13-48



[Edited on 10/8/2008 by piacere]


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2008 at 01:49 AM

"Not only so, but we rejoice in our sufferings, becuase we know that suffering produces perseverence; perseverence, character; and cahracter, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has pured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Romans 5:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2008 at 11:08 AM

"I have told you these things so that you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

John 16:33


piacere - 10/9/2008 at 03:08 PM

thank you, Jesus.

my life is my witness to your glory and my testimony is in honor of your truth.

yours is the only way that carried me through and you waited for me to try all other options.

thank you for your patience with me and showing me the way to life.


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2008 at 11:46 PM

"The things we think are important and the things we take for granted are often in the worng order in our lives until we are staring death in the face. That has a way of rearranging things."

-Bobo


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2008 at 02:43 PM

"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."

John 14: 27


piacere - 10/11/2008 at 04:25 PM

quote:
"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."

John 14: 27


that covers so many facets of life that they're too numerous to mention.

in fact, it covers all of it.

it's an amazing thing, His offer of peace. It totally changed my life and transcends everything I ever tried or conjured up on my own.


aiq - 10/11/2008 at 06:34 PM

"...before I get myself all down, I jump up and kick the door down.
And walk down on the street, and leave my blues at home..."

Words of comfort, favorite music, leaning on friends/family are all helpful.

For me, as trite as it may sound, the ultimate solution is to just buck up and push on. Will to survive.

I mean, do we have any choice?


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2008 at 10:34 PM

I guess we do, since so many make the choice to check out on their own. And I really don't want to just survive, although I'm pretty sure that is not all that you are talking about settling for. I want more of this "life to the full" thing. Life these days seems to be such a blessing, such a joy, even when times are hard.


DougMacKenzie - 10/12/2008 at 04:57 PM

Thank you God, for days like this.


Enzo - 10/12/2008 at 06:52 PM

Hook 'eM Horns !

What a game DougE !!!
Colt's a good guy , a great win for TU.

Boomer Sooner!!!


DougMacKenzie - 10/13/2008 at 10:06 PM

"The people walking in darkness have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned.
You have enlarged the nation and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest,
as men rejoice when dividing the plunder.
For as in the day of Midian's defeat you have shattered the yoke that burdens them,
the rod across their shoulders, the rod of their oppressor.
Every warrior's boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given;
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counsleor,
Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this."

Isaiah 9:2-7


DougMacKenzie - 10/14/2008 at 11:40 AM

"Dear friends, since God so loved us, we ought to love one another. No one has seen God, but if we love one another God lives in us and his love is made complete in us."

1 John 4:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/15/2008 at 11:46 AM

We're in a revolution
Lord you know its right
Everybody's singing
There'll be no one to fight
People can you feel it?
Love is everywhere

Someday.


Stephen - 10/15/2008 at 05:01 PM

We'll reach it & we'll all be singin' and we'll all be friends
back where it all begins

the lyrics to Stevie Wonder's Visions of my Mind come to mind too, People hand in hand/will I live to see this milk and honey land/...but what I'd like to know/is does a place like this exist so beautiful/or is it just a vision of my mind..." (I don't really remember how it goes) --
the words of Genesis come to mind too, In the beginning, God created heaven and earth --
good reading, just like the Daily OM was -- thanks


DougMacKenzie - 10/15/2008 at 10:09 PM

Nice to see you again Stephen. Thanks for the post.


DougMacKenzie - 10/17/2008 at 09:47 AM

"We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar.

1 John 4:19-20


Stephen - 10/17/2008 at 03:33 PM

"There's a song I haven't sung
about the devil Lord what he's done..."

The lyrics to "A Song I Haven't Sung" by Lonnie Mack are very powerful -- it ends with "Jesus loves us all everybody, Jesus loves us all/He will give us peace everybody, Jesus loves us all..." -- a very spiritual song

Back at you Doug, always the best to you bro


DougMacKenzie - 10/18/2008 at 01:34 PM

"And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him."

1 John 4:16


piacere - 10/18/2008 at 01:56 PM

my favorite thread.

ya did good DUG, ya did real good.


piacere - 10/19/2008 at 12:07 PM

Have a great Sunday.


DougMacKenzie - 10/19/2008 at 02:53 PM

As we remember those that have passed on before us I'll post one of my very favorite verses.

"In my father's house there are many rooms. I go there to prepare a place for you, so that where I am you may be also. If it were not so, I would have told you."


Enzo - 10/19/2008 at 04:09 PM

AMEN!


DougMacKenzie - 10/20/2008 at 10:21 PM

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I oce was lost, but now I'm found
Was blind but now I see


DougMacKenzie - 10/21/2008 at 11:19 AM

"We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the majestic glory, saying,'This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain."

2 Peter 1:15-18


DougMacKenzie - 10/22/2008 at 11:46 AM

"Better is one day in your courts than thousands elsewhere."

Ps. 84:10


DougMacKenzie - 10/24/2008 at 01:56 AM

"....being confident in this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."

Phillipians 1:6


piacere - 10/25/2008 at 12:07 PM

good mornin'.


DougMacKenzie - 10/25/2008 at 11:51 PM

"For it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose."

Phil. 2:13


DougMacKenzie - 10/27/2008 at 12:25 AM

"Do not be afraid, for I am with you."

Is. 43:5


DougMacKenzie - 10/28/2008 at 02:53 PM

"...being certain of this, that he who began a good work in you will coninue it until completion on the day of Christ Jesus."

Philipians 1:3-6


DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2008 at 01:31 AM

"Keep on loving each other as borthers."

Hebrews 13:1


Libby - 10/31/2008 at 01:48 AM

{{{Doug}}}


DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2008 at 01:15 PM

Libby


DougMacKenzie - 11/2/2008 at 04:16 PM

"For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividng soul and spirit, joint and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

Hebrews 4:12

[Edited on 11/2/2008 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 11/3/2008 at 12:20 PM

"Dear friends, since God so loved us, we ought to love one another."

1 John 4:11


DougMacKenzie - 11/4/2008 at 12:08 PM

"Give to Caeser what is Caeser's, and to God what is God's."

Matt. 22:21


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2008 at 03:46 AM

"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows."

Matt. 10:29-31


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2008 at 12:28 PM

"Shout for joy, O heavens,
rejoice, O earth;
burst into song, O mountains!
For the Lord comforts his people
and will have compassion on his afflicted ones."

Is. 49:13


DougMacKenzie - 11/9/2008 at 04:13 AM

"Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

1 Cor. 15:58


dancingrhonda - 11/9/2008 at 04:55 AM

Amen.
Thanks for posting these, Doug.


piacere - 11/9/2008 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Amen.
Thanks for posting these, Doug.



D-Mac rocks.

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up".

Galations 6:9


Jhawker - 11/9/2008 at 11:05 PM

As a big Dylan fan, I love this song.


Jhawker - 11/9/2008 at 11:08 PM

As a big Dylan fan, I love this song. I also recommend The Essential Bob Dylan Part two


DougMacKenzie - 11/10/2008 at 12:43 AM

For the Hawk:
I've heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove
And old men with broken teeth stranded without love
Do I understand your question, man, is it hopeless and forlorn?
"Come in," she said, "I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 11/10/2008 at 12:21 PM

"May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."

Rom. 15:13


DougMacKenzie - 11/12/2008 at 12:41 PM

"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have recieved from God."

2 Cor. 1:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 11/13/2008 at 12:36 PM

"Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you."

1 Peter 5:6-7


piacere - 11/13/2008 at 01:59 PM

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me..."

Jn 14:6


DougMacKenzie - 11/14/2008 at 12:14 PM

"But let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."

Heb. 4:16


DougMacKenzie - 11/16/2008 at 12:40 PM

"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is purewhatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things. Whatever you have heard from me - or seen in me, put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you."

Philippians 4:8-9


DougMacKenzie - 11/17/2008 at 06:58 PM

"This is the verdict: Light came into the world, but men loved the darkness instead of the light becuase their deeds were evil."

John 3:19


DougMacKenzie - 11/18/2008 at 12:33 PM

"I am not saying this because I am in need, because I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and i know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength."

Philippians 4:11-13


dancingrhonda - 11/18/2008 at 12:47 PM

quote:
"I am not saying this because I am in need, because I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and i know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength."

Philippians 4:11-13


Good one.


DougMacKenzie - 11/20/2008 at 02:16 AM

"Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace."

Colossians 3:15


DougMacKenzie - 11/20/2008 at 02:14 PM

"The Lord your God is with you.....
He will take great delight in you......
He will rejoice over you with singing."

Zephania 3:17


piacere - 11/21/2008 at 02:00 AM

" I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life"

Jn 8:12


DougMacKenzie - 11/21/2008 at 12:45 PM

"Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God."

1 Colossians 3:16


piacere - 11/21/2008 at 09:02 PM

need a prayer.

I put in for "Read to Me" at the children's hospital, a one-on-one reading that I'll hopefully do with 5-12 year old very sick kids, on a volunteer basis. I REALLY want this...pray I get it.

thanks.


KWidgeon - 11/21/2008 at 09:06 PM

quote:
need a prayer.

I put in for "Read to Me" at the children's hospital, a one-on-one reading that I'll hopefully do with 5-12 year old very sick kids, on a volunteer basis. I REALLY want this...pray I get it.

thanks.


Praying that you do get it.


DougMacKenzie - 11/21/2008 at 10:42 PM

quote:
need a prayer.

I put in for "Read to Me" at the children's hospital, a one-on-one reading that I'll hopefully do with 5-12 year old very sick kids, on a volunteer basis. I REALLY want this...pray I get it.

thanks.

You got it brother.

"And whatever you do,whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."

Colossians 3:17


DougMacKenzie - 11/22/2008 at 02:15 PM

"For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

Hebrews 4:12


piacere - 11/23/2008 at 03:56 PM

"And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please him in every way; bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God."

Col 1:10


Enzo - 11/23/2008 at 07:37 PM

" See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy , which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ ."

Col 2:8


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2008 at 01:15 PM

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you....."

Matt. 5:43-44


DougMacKenzie - 11/25/2008 at 12:55 PM

"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him?"

Matt. 7:9-11


piacere - 11/26/2008 at 02:06 AM

DUG
Kitty (it is Kitty, isn't it?)

thanks.

your prayers were answered.

After I go through a screening for mumps, rubella and TB, or something like that, I forget...but no sweat, I'm cool with all of them, I had the mumps, chicken pox and measles and I got screened for TB on my last hospital volunteer gig, I'll be good to go !!!!!

I'll be reading to children ages 5-12 on a one-on-one basis, kids with various forms of cancer and leukemia on Wed. and Thurs, nites, 6 to 8. The interview was a breeze...( I'm quite the charmer ) actually, it was God's grace and His infinite wisdom that I tapped into. ( What a gift He gives us !!!)

anyway...keep me in your prayers, as I do you. The easy part is over. Pray I have the strength and the will to keep myself strong in the presence of these children.

God bless.


DougMacKenzie - 11/26/2008 at 01:56 PM

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

Rom. 8:28

Congrats Mark.


dancingrhonda - 11/26/2008 at 02:14 PM

quote:
DUG
Kitty (it is Kitty, isn't it?)

thanks.

your prayers were answered.

After I go through a screening for mumps, rubella and TB, or something like that, I forget...but no sweat, I'm cool with all of them, I had the mumps, chicken pox and measles and I got screened for TB on my last hospital volunteer gig, I'll be good to go !!!!!

I'll be reading to children ages 5-12 on a one-on-one basis, kids with various forms of cancer and leukemia on Wed. and Thurs, nites, 6 to 8. The interview was a breeze...( I'm quite the charmer ) actually, it was God's grace and His infinite wisdom that I tapped into. ( What a gift He gives us !!!)

anyway...keep me in your prayers, as I do you. The easy part is over. Pray I have the strength and the will to keep myself strong in the presence of these children.

God bless.


Congrats. You will do a fantastic job. I'm always amazed when people seek out opportunities like this. I have a couple of nurse friends who choose to work in Hospice. And another that choose to work in a federal prison. It's take a special person.


piacere - 11/27/2008 at 02:22 AM

not so sure about that. I've been called "special" but not for the reason you've mentioned. D-Mac can attest to that.

actually, if anything is special about this it's that I've come such a long way from where I was 15 or so years ago and even a year ago, again, as D-Mac can attest to when I was at a very low point. btw, thanks again Doug for all the kind and spiritually uplifting words via the many emails you sent me, you're a true man of faith. The specialness is God's work and me listening to and doing what pleases him. That in itself is it's own reward and I welcome and cherish my service to him. He's an awesome God.

I'm toasted. Passed out hundreds of turkeys and food bags today and yesterday. Just got home. Been going downtown with different churches lately and passing out coats and socks and stuff. Pretty awesome. Working the shelter tomorrow too, all day. I never dreamed a few years ago that I'd be doing stuff like this. God was so patient with me.

thanks for the prayers and nice words. Winter is coming , it's gonna get tough around here for the homeless and needy. Got my orientation at the hospital next week then two weeks of training then I'm on my own !!

I've rambled. Sorry.

have a safe and warm and blessed holiday.


DougMacKenzie - 11/27/2008 at 04:56 AM

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."

Galations 6:9

Mark


DougMacKenzie - 11/27/2008 at 01:47 PM

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faitfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

Galatians 5:22-23


piacere - 11/29/2008 at 12:11 PM

"Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me."

Ps 51:10-12


DougMacKenzie - 11/30/2008 at 03:18 AM

"....The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."

Galations 5:6


DougMacKenzie - 12/1/2008 at 12:16 PM

"But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.'"

2 Cor. 12:9


piacere - 12/2/2008 at 02:53 AM

I took, with permission, about a dozen and a half pies tonight from the shelter ( we had/have a tremendous surplus of pies...socks and gloves on the other hand ) and passed them out to my neighbors.

they think I'm the coolest but it's God's work.

I told them so.

they look at me funny (hey, who doesn't? ) but I planted the seed.

Now, I just wait......

Imagine, someone led to our Lord and Savior by way of a pumpkin pie.


DougMacKenzie - 12/2/2008 at 12:31 PM

"You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts."

2 Cor. 3:3


DougMacKenzie - 12/3/2008 at 12:29 PM

"For God, who said, 'Let light shine out of darkness,' made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ."


2 Cor. 4:6


DougMacKenzie - 12/4/2008 at 12:09 PM

"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebrations, or a sabbath day. these are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

Col. 2:16-17


piacere - 12/4/2008 at 02:37 PM

"Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that confess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased."

Heb 13:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 12/5/2008 at 12:34 PM

"At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy."

Titus 3:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 12/6/2008 at 04:58 PM

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see."

Heb. 11:1


DougMacKenzie - 12/7/2008 at 02:25 PM

"How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"

1 John 3:1


DougMacKenzie - 12/8/2008 at 12:12 PM

"So wehatever you eat or drink, whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."

1 Cor. 10:31


DougMacKenzie - 12/9/2008 at 11:54 AM

"Yet, O Lord, you are our Father.
We are the clay, you are the potter;
We are all the work of your hand."

Is. 64:8


DougMacKenzie - 12/10/2008 at 12:39 PM

"Let not your hearts be troubled. You trust in God, trust in me also. In my Fahter's house there are many rooms; if it were not true, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where i am. You know the way to the place where I am going."

Jn. 14:1-4

In remembrance of Bob "Bobo" O'Brien, loving freind, husband, father, and son.
"Good company in all weather, never shirked a task."


Stephen - 12/10/2008 at 05:02 PM

Wish to add to the remembrance of brother Bob O'Brien, who is missed by so many -- would like to add a humble heartfelt prayer & support for Charlesinator's family members -- and to all those who in this transitory life are in trouble, sorrow, need, sickness, or any other adversity -- God bless each & every one of you


DougMacKenzie - 12/11/2008 at 12:30 PM

"His master replied, "Well done, my good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness."

Matt. 25:21


piacere - 12/11/2008 at 04:20 PM

"And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."

Col 3:17


DougMacKenzie - 12/12/2008 at 12:37 PM

"For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepard in advance for us to do."

Eph. 2:10


piacere - 12/13/2008 at 01:59 PM

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Mt. 11: 28-30


DougMacKenzie - 12/14/2008 at 04:22 PM

"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are - yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."

Heb. 4:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 12/15/2008 at 12:22 PM

"Don't be deceived, my dear brotheres. Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of heavenly lights, who does not change likje shifting shadows."

James 1:16-17


piacere - 12/15/2008 at 01:38 PM

"May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit".

Ro. 15:13


DougMacKenzie - 12/16/2008 at 12:14 PM

"My dear brothers, take note of this. Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry. For man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that god desires."

James 1:19-20


piacere - 12/16/2008 at 02:17 PM

When the Lord saw her, his heart went out to her and he said,"Don't cry".

Lk 7:13


DougMacKenzie - 12/17/2008 at 11:36 AM

"Look to the Lord and his strength; seek his face always."

Ps. 105:4


OldDirtRoad - 12/17/2008 at 04:42 PM


DougMacKenzie - 12/18/2008 at 01:55 PM

"When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with "sinners" and tax collectors, they asked his disciples, 'Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?'"
On hearing this Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Mark 2:16-17

Thank God.


DougMacKenzie - 12/19/2008 at 12:35 PM

Yesterday evening I was about to go for a run when my sun asked me if he could go. So we decided to go for a walk (he is only 7) and we started talking about the ways God speaks to us. It was such a relaxed, enjoyable walk and conversation, and i don't think I've ever felt as close to him as I did right then. I learn so much from kids about god, his love, and faith. We shared some wonderful thoughts and experiences of God, and i know I felt blessed in a way I don't believe I have experienced before. God is so good and loving to us, and sustains us in so many ways at just the right time, in just the right way. Thank you Lord.

"Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise;
give thanks to him and praise his name.
For the Lord is good and his love endures forever;
his faithfulness continues through all generations."

Ps. 100:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 12/20/2008 at 06:27 PM

"See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth and devastate it; he will ruin its face and scatter its inhabitants -
it will be the same for priests as for people,
for master as for servant,
for mistress as for maid,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

Is. 24:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2008 at 01:59 PM

Another year has come and gone. Although this one has been much better for me and my family, it seems it has been very hard on many others, and likely to get harder still. All the words, verses, and well wishes in this thread still apply. Life in this world presents us with so many opportunites to not do the right thing, to place the responsibility for our actions on to others, to act in ways other than God acts toward us, that it can be difficult to remember who and what God created us to be and do. The weeds of worry can choke out all joy and love. When I was running one day I had this vision of Jesus riding up besdie me on this beautiful, massive white horse and offering his hand to me, telling me to grab on to him and he would carry me. I looked down, and in my hands were all this stuff; money, bills, family pictures, just stuff. I looked back up at Jesus and he told me to just let go and grab on to him. I did, and he hoisted me up behind him onto the horse and we took off. I looked down, and my body was still running, and laboring, but my spirit was riding with God, happy, joyous, and free. It was exhilirating.

"At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false proiphets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."

Matt. 24:10-13


dancingrhonda - 12/31/2008 at 02:03 PM

Thanks for keeping this going, Doug.

Wishing you a very blessed new year.


DougMacKenzie - 1/2/2009 at 01:25 PM

"His master replied, 'Well done, my good and faithful servant. You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness."

Matt. 25:21


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2009 at 03:02 AM

"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. Bur understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the theif was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, becuase the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

Matt. 24:42-44


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2009 at 11:29 PM

"One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
Jesus replied,"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Matt. 22:36-40

[Edited on 1/7/2009 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 1/9/2009 at 02:16 PM

"Do everything without complaining or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe as you hold out the word of life......."

Phil. 2:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 1/10/2009 at 12:19 PM

"And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."

Mark 11:25


DougMacKenzie - 1/11/2009 at 06:03 PM

"For I know the plans i have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and you will find me when you seek me with all your heart."

Jeremiah 29:11-13


DougMacKenzie - 1/12/2009 at 12:19 PM

"No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him."

1 Cor. 29:9


DougMacKenzie - 1/13/2009 at 12:29 PM

"For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back.
But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.
I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation;
I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools.
I will lead the blind by ways they have not known,
along unfamiliar paths I will guide them.
I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth.
These are the things i will do; I will not forsake them."

Is. 42:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2009 at 03:08 PM

Times are getting alot tougher out there for so many of us. Our business is down, and things have basically ground to a halt for my wife in real estat/property management, even here, where we are at least little bit insulated from the economic crisis. But God is directing and providing for us, and we are in better shape than we were a year ago. I believe things will get worse before it gets better. But through all this our family continues to grow closer to one another, and closer to God, and we have been rewarded and blessed in so many ways. This just seems to be so much more important than financial comfort. We often forget that when we believe money is what sustains us rather than God's love and grace. God's plan is always perfect; we just can't always see it because it is so big and our view is so small.

"Create in me a pure heart, O God and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit
to sustain me."

Ps. 51:10-12



DougMacKenzie - 1/19/2009 at 10:57 PM

"The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:5


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2009 at 02:38 AM

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neiither the present nor the fuutre, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Rom. 8:38-39


DougMacKenzie - 2/3/2009 at 01:46 AM

"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10


piacere - 2/15/2009 at 01:40 PM

thank you, Jesus.

My life and my way.


Enzo - 2/15/2009 at 04:31 PM

quote:
"The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:5


DougMacKenzie - 2/16/2009 at 09:53 PM

"In the beginning was the word. And the word was with god. And the word was God."

John 1:1-3


piacere - 2/19/2009 at 03:20 PM

Jesus asked him, "What do you want me to do for you?"

"Lord, I want to see", he replied.

Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight, your faith has healed you"

Lk 18: 41-42


BigDaveOnBass - 2/19/2009 at 04:05 PM

Hey y'all. I need a favor. After nearly 12 years, the praise and worship service I've played in at my church is being suspended indefinitely. We are about to renovate the facility we have our service in, which is supposed to take 8 or 9 months to complete, but when we thought we would move it to another spot in the church, the powers that be in our church leadership have decided to suspend the program and try to incorporate certain contemporary elements into the 11AM traditional service. I have some heartburn with all of this because it seems every time there is a change in the programs or the services, it comes at the expense of the contemporary worship crowd. Our service launched a new contemporary church a few years back, and as much as I wanted to go with them at the time, I stayed out of loyalty to my current church. We've had a lot of pastoral changes over the last 12 years, leadership changes in the praise team, and more recently, personnel changes within the band. We had just begun to to gel as a team and as a band again, and now the plug has been pulled on us. There has been an "us and them" vibe within the church for a long time now. Once the new contemporary church was launched, it seemed our church didn't give our service the support it had previously. They are asking us to be patient and that we will eventually become one church again. I'm really struggling with what to do. The decision to do all of this came rather quickly and without a good game plan. My gut instincts tell me now is the time to go over to the other church and worship there, because I am sold on contemporary worship style. I like the music, I like the laid back feel, I like wearing blue jeans, I like having a cup of coffee in my hand. I am pretty close to the pastor at the new church (he was our associate pastor at my current church before he was appointed to begin the new church,) as he was with me and my family when my mother passed away. I am ate up with uncertainty right now. If you could say a prayer for God to still my uneasiness and lead me into the right situation, for HIS glory, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.


DougMacKenzie - 2/22/2009 at 04:24 PM

Just read this Dave, will say a prayer for you. I went throught this same exact thing about 3 years ago. Keep prayng about it and God will show you the way. God puts us where he needs us, where he has a job for us to do, and his plan is perfect. We cannot mess it up. Keep your eyes on the prize, and run towards that prize, which is the love of Christ. Everything else will take care of itself.


Enzo - 2/22/2009 at 07:00 PM

quote:
I want to be of more use, more service. To quit being caught up in my own plans and desires and instead give myself over to the service of the King. To lose myself in that service and in so doing become who I was created to be. To one day hear those words,"Well done, my good and faithful servant."

Doug



"Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you."

1 Peter 5:6-7



[Edited on 2/22/2009 by Enzo]


piacere - 2/28/2009 at 02:21 AM

just read your post Dave.

I will pray for you and the church.

Stay in prayer Dave and God will show you the way.


Enzo - 3/1/2009 at 07:26 PM

I need to remember this :

I wonder what life would be like , if I let Jesus live through me ...........





[Edited on 3/3/2009 by Enzo]


piacere - 3/2/2009 at 05:08 PM

A guy is talking to God. He says, "God, in heaven, if one thousand years is like a day and one day like a thousand years then it stands to reason that one thousand dollars is like a dollar and one dollar like one thousand...so....can I have a dollar?"

God says, "Wait one day"

A woman dies and is at the pearly gates. St. Peter says, "If you can spell one word, I'll let you in. Spell 'love'" The woman says, " L-O-V-E " St. Peter says, "Fine, enter and welcome"
Some time later, St. Peter has to run an errand so he leaves the woman in charge of the gate. Her husband appears. She asks how his life was and he says, "Great !!! I remarried a younger woman and we traveled and lived on the beach and had a swell time !!"
The woman says, "Well, to enter you'll need to spell just one word". Husband says, "Fine, ok"
Woman says, "Czechoslovakia" (sp. )


BigDaveOnBass - 3/2/2009 at 06:26 PM

Thanks Doug, Piacere and Enzo. Got through our first combined service yesterday without too much pain. I have a lot more peace about the situation now. It'll be alright.


Wayne - 3/2/2009 at 06:46 PM

Gald it went good for you Dave.

I know I invited you to the Millbrook contemporary service, but you would have to lose the coffee! No food or beverage in the worship center, although a cup of coffee sounds good during preaching, have it during Sunday School though.


BigDaveOnBass - 3/2/2009 at 06:55 PM

Wayne, we're rehearsing during Sunday school.


DougMacKenzie - 4/3/2009 at 11:02 PM

"The theif comes only to kill, to steal, and to destroy. I come that they might have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10


Enzo - 4/12/2009 at 05:17 PM


MaconPeach - 4/12/2009 at 05:42 PM

Christ the Lord is Risen Today!

Christ the Lord is risen today, Alleluia!
Earth and heaven in chorus say, Alleluia!
Raise your joys and triumphs high, Alleluia!
Sing, ye heavens, and earth reply, Alleluia!

Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia!
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia!
Death in vain forbids him rise, Alleluia!
Christ has opened paradise, Alleluia!

Lives again our glorious King, Alleluia!
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia!
Once he died our souls to save, Alleluia!
Where's thy victory, boasting grave? Alleluia!

Soar we now where Christ has led, Alleluia!
Following our exalted Head, Alleluia!
Made like him, like him we rise, Alleluia!
Ours the cross, the grave, the skies, Alleluia!
Hail the Lord of earth and heaven, Alleluia!
Praise to thee by both be given, Alleluia!
Thee we greet triumphant now, Alleluia!
Hail the Resurrection, thou, Alleluia!

King of glory, soul of bliss, Alleluia!
Everlasting life is this, Alleluia!
Thee to know, thy power to prove, Alleluia!
Thus to sing, and thus to love, Alleluia!


DougMacKenzie - 4/18/2009 at 01:58 PM

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house there are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going."

John 14:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 4/21/2009 at 12:58 AM

"Then he got into the boat and his disciples followed him. Without warning, a furious storm came upon the lake, so that the waves swept over the boat. But Jesus was sleeping. The disciples went and woke him, saying "Lord, save us! We're going to drown!"
He repied, "You of little faith, why are you so afraid?" then he got up and rebuked the waves, and it was completely calm."

Matt. 8:23-26


DougMacKenzie - 5/10/2009 at 03:09 AM

Got to take my 12 y/o daughter to a daddy-daughter dance last night, after having lunch with my wife and kids at their school and playing at our high school talent show with the principal and two assistant principles. What a great day. Spent the day today with the wife and kids doing all kinds of stuff, topped it off with dinner and a movie for the wife for Mother's Day. Absolutely wonderful and overflowing with joy and fullness. 15 years ago, before I became second to God, days like these would not have been possible. Thank you Lord.


DougMacKenzie - 5/16/2009 at 10:03 AM

"You have heard it said "Love your neighbor and hate your enemy". But I tell you : Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Matt. 5:43-44


piacere - 5/19/2009 at 12:27 AM

quote:
"You have heard it said "Love your neighbor and hate your enemy". But I tell you : Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Matt. 5:43-44


amen.

went looking for this thread to give it a bump.

I slipped a bit today (as will happen in our imperfectness) but I'm back better tonight, thanks be to God.

Hey DUG, nice d-d dance and Mother's Day !!


piacere - 5/19/2009 at 11:41 AM

Jeremiah 29:11

"For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future"


DougMacKenzie - 5/19/2009 at 11:44 AM

quote:
Jeremiah 29:11

"For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future"


Nam, sometimes have such a hard time remembering that! And the dance was great. She flat wore me out though.


piacere - 5/21/2009 at 11:36 AM

...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Rom. 3: 23-24


DougMacKenzie - 5/22/2009 at 02:42 AM

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs."

1Cor. 13:4-5


piacere - 5/22/2009 at 02:53 AM

quote:
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs."

1Cor. 13:4-5




one of the first verses my mentor had me memorize years ago.

still one of my favorites...


DougMacKenzie - 6/7/2009 at 02:32 PM

"Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of it's own."

Matt. 6:34


DougMacKenzie - 6/26/2009 at 06:19 PM

I know a lot of people that are still having a pretty hard time of things right now, and I know a lot of people that are very frustrated at how things seem to be progressing. Things seem to be unfair, to lack common sense, to not take the best interests of the people as a whole into consideration. Our leaders and prognosticators seem out of touch with what is going on individual by individual, family by family. I truly believe that in the end love prevails, that the grace and loving mercy of our Lord engulfs the darkness and turns it all into light and joy.

"At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."

Matt. 24:10-13


DougMacKenzie - 6/28/2009 at 03:44 PM

"Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

1 Corinthians 15:58


DougMacKenzie - 7/5/2009 at 12:19 PM

"You have heard it said to the people long ago,'do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement."

Matt. 5:21


DougMacKenzie - 8/21/2009 at 02:07 AM

Here's hoping people are making it through these tough times. For myself I know that I tend to turn to God and rely on him more when things are hard, which actually turns hard times into better times than what I would normally consider "good times." God always seems to do something just when things seem impossible so that we will know he is God.

"Sout for joy, O heavens;
rejoice, O earth;
burst into song, O mountains!
For the Lord comforts his people
and will have compassion on his afflicted ones."

Isaiah 49:13


DougMacKenzie - 8/22/2009 at 10:41 AM

Amongst all the turmoil this world has to offer and all the strife and animosity amongst its inhabitants I sometimes forget to just sit down and take in the beauty that God has created for us and the peace only he can give.

"The Lord is my sheperd, I shall not want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
He leads me beside quiet waters,
he resotres my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his neame's sake.
Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me.
Your rod and your staff comfort me.
You prepare a table for me
in the presence of my enemies,
You annoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodnes and love
will follow me all the days of mny life
And I will dwell in the house of the Lord
forever."

Ps. 23


StratDal - 8/22/2009 at 01:32 PM

"Every day is a gift."

Ruthelene


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2009 at 11:10 AM

I've been thinking about Bobo a lot lately, and the above post really hit home. That is one idea he held onto for so long; that each day is a gift and to never take anything or anyone for granted. Life is so precious and short and sweet. Too much so to sweat the small stuff. In the end the only thing that will remain is love. Everything else will be thrown into the fire and burned away.

"If I speak in the tongues of men and angels, but have not love, I am a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. Love always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a chjild, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now we know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greateset of these is love."

1Cor. 13


musichick3 - 8/23/2009 at 03:56 PM

Thank you for posting these thoughts on this thread, folks...I've been needing some "positive reinforcement" to keep me looking in the right direction and not letting things get to me too much.
I read it from start to finish this morning and I feel refreshed and positive now



"The two most important things in life are to find God and Love. Everything else can wait"
- George Harrison


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2009 at 02:50 AM

Its so good to "see" you around here MC3. Its been a while. Hope all is well. Everything turns out just fine in the end.


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2009 at 10:39 AM

"Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious for anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will gaurd your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:4-7


DougMacKenzie - 8/26/2009 at 02:52 AM

"Finally, borthers, whatever is true,whatever is noble,whatever is right,whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things."

Philipians 4:8


DougMacKenzie - 8/28/2009 at 02:21 AM

"You have heard it said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy'. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven."

Matt 5:43-45


DougMacKenzie - 8/28/2009 at 11:21 AM

Very, very often I have a hard time doing the above and have to ask for God's help. I just can't seem to get there on my own.


DougMacKenzie - 8/29/2009 at 12:55 PM

"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets,as the hypocrites do in the synagogues on on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matt. 6:2-4


piacere - 8/29/2009 at 01:23 PM

"Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from him."

Psalm 62:5


piacere - 9/1/2009 at 11:46 AM

every day and everything in it is a gift from God.

Thank you, father in heaven.

and thank you for your Son...


DougMacKenzie - 9/2/2009 at 02:45 AM

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men."

Matt. 5:13


DougMacKenzie - 9/2/2009 at 11:17 AM

"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden.Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."

Matt. 5:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 9/3/2009 at 11:34 AM

"Sir", the woman said, "you have nothing to draw with and the well is very deep. Where can you get this living water? are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us this well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and his heards?"
Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks from this well will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

John 4:11-14


piacere - 9/3/2009 at 04:58 PM

"I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death"

Jn 8:51


DougMacKenzie - 9/4/2009 at 11:13 AM

My soul finds rest in God alone;
My slavation comes from him.
He alone is my rock and my salvation;
He is my fortress, I shall never be shaken."

Ps. 62:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 9/6/2009 at 02:30 PM

It seems like lately it has been becoming more and more clear to me that we have a duty to live lives of joy and freedom, to experience the fullness of the joy and peace God has created us to experience in this gift of life he has given us. A duty to express that overflowing fullness in everything we do, no matter what others are doing or what is going on around us. To always live that life of hope and joy in all situations, in all weather, in everything we do. It's not just a bessing, or a priviledge, or a gift. It's a responsibility. One we can only fulfill by surrendering everything to God and trusting him completely. I'm beginning to see the possibility of actually being "all in."


DougMacKenzie - 9/7/2009 at 11:56 AM

"A new command I give you: LOve one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

John 13:34


RickyM - 9/9/2009 at 12:37 AM

Hello Doug, I came across your thread tonight. I hadn't seen it before. I started at the beginning.What your thought was when you began.My daughter was killed almost 7 years ago, next Feb. 20th. My world changed in an instant.I had a life that was very different before that day.I took tomorrow for granted.Even though the Bible says that is wrong to do. I took people for granted as well, I guess.I thought I would be able to make up the times that I missed with my kids,working two jobs, missing fun things with them.Then my daughter had her life taken from her and us.I went into a deep depression.Couldn't get out of bed to meet the day. Didn't come out of the house much.It took me years before I was functioning.Through counseling, specifically for grief, prayer, family, friends, I 've been able to claw out of the pit that I was in.Faith is such an important gift.It unfortunately is looked down upon in our society.I don't know where I would be without my faith in God.He has put up with alot of **** from me, yet, I know that I am loved.As someone said earlier",you did good " starting this thread.I felt compelled to share some of my story.When she died, I really wasn't living a very Christian life. I thought I was doing OK, but, really I was kidding myself.If I had been living a Christian life,my fall into depression would not have been so deep and hard to come back from. But God did grant me the Grace to recover.I have to focus, and work at it everyday. But, I know with His grace all things are possible. Thank you for the opportunity to share my story with you ! God Bless & Take care,Rick


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2009 at 11:27 AM

Hey Rick-
Thank you so much for sharing your story here. Sometimes my little daily aggravations seem much bigger than they really are. I could not imagine losing my daughter and then finding the courage to go on without God. When it comes down to it, after all the intellectual excercises and debate, all the archeological discoveries and carbon dating, all the logic and conjecture, nothing can change the fact that God entered into my life and changed me when I was most in need of change. Through tragedy and hard times he pulled me closer to him. He sustains me on a daily basis, gives me exactly what I need for each day, and blesses my life with a joy I never knew before. Here's to the promise that we will all dance together at the big dance when you are reunited.

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house there are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you with me that you also may be where I am."

John 14:1-3


RickyM - 9/9/2009 at 10:16 PM

Thanks Doug ! God Bless ! Rick


DougMacKenzie - 9/10/2009 at 10:50 AM

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."

John 14:27


DougMacKenzie - 9/11/2009 at 11:15 AM

This day is still a suprisingly tough day for me to remember. I was talking to my students about it a little bit yesterday and got chocked up. The older ones remember it a little, 6th grade and below hardly at all. My heart and prayers go out to all those who suffered personal loss on that day. Sometimes its very hard to not want to make somebody pay for our plain.

At the sixth hour darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour. and at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

Mark 6:33-34


DougMacKenzie - 9/12/2009 at 01:05 PM

"While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, he has risen!"

Luke 24:4-6


piacere - 9/13/2009 at 01:47 AM

I just finished reading "The Shack".

absolutely outstanding.


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2009 at 01:49 AM

I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


piacere - 9/13/2009 at 02:27 AM

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I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


yeah, me too...

ya think it was the black female thing and the shattering of preconceived notions...?


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2009 at 02:28 AM

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I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


yeah, me too...

ya think it was the black female thing and the shattering of preconceived notions...?

That's what I heard was coming from the pulpit of some of the Baptsit churches out here. I thought it was pretty cool.


piacere - 9/13/2009 at 02:40 AM

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I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


yeah, me too...

ya think it was the black female thing and the shattering of preconceived notions...?

That's what I heard was coming from the pulpit of some of the Baptsit churches out here. I thought it was pretty cool.


that's because you are in a relationship with him...

Man, I'll tell ya, that book had a profound effect on me...


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2009 at 02:42 AM

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I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


yeah, me too...

ya think it was the black female thing and the shattering of preconceived notions...?

That's what I heard was coming from the pulpit of some of the Baptsit churches out here. I thought it was pretty cool.


that's because you are in a relationship with him...

Man, I'll tell ya, that book had a profound effect on me...

Yes, me too. really made me look at some things in a completely different light.


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2009 at 12:44 PM

"For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the spirit of sonship. And by him we cry " Abba, Father." The spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children."

Rom. 8:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 9/14/2009 at 10:45 AM

"I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing to the glory that will be revealed to us."

Rom. 8:18


nmarch88 - 9/16/2009 at 12:21 AM

Please check pm's

Thanks


DougMacKenzie - 9/16/2009 at 11:38 AM

Back at 'ya.


DougMacKenzie - 9/16/2009 at 12:23 PM

Nancy -
"The thief comes only to kill and steal, to rob and to destroy. I come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10


nmarch88 - 9/17/2009 at 12:37 AM

"It's not about success or failure in worldy terms, it's about relying on God"
Doug MacKenzie

Some of the best advice I have ever received.

So very thankful I found this place and all it's wonderful people.

Nancy


DougMacKenzie - 9/17/2009 at 02:01 AM

I love how God works. Sometimes people think they're getting something from you, when in reality they are giving something to you. Thank you Father, for the way you use people in our lives. Amen


nmarch88 - 9/17/2009 at 03:43 AM

I have come to this ocean
And the waves of fear are starting to grow
The doubts and questions are rising with the tide
So I'm clinging to the one sure thing I know

Like a child holding on to a promise
I will cling to His word and believe
As I press on to take hold of that
For which Christ Jesus took hold of me

I will hold on to the hand of my Savior
And I will hold on with all my might
I will hold loosely to things that are fleeting
And hold on to Jesus for life

Stephen Curtis Chapman


DougMacKenzie - 9/17/2009 at 11:24 AM

"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Therefore my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, becuase you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

1 Corinthians 15:56-58


nmarch88 - 9/18/2009 at 02:14 AM

"See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare
before they spring into being I announce them to you

Isaiah 42:9

Doug, I just can't tell you how much you've done for me. I've been thinking about you all day and thanking God for bringing you to me. I wish there was some way I could reciprocate your thoughtful kindness. I will pass it on.

Peace and love to you and yours.

Nancy


DougMacKenzie - 9/18/2009 at 11:25 AM

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

John 13:34-35


DougMacKenzie - 9/19/2009 at 04:28 PM

"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited."

Romans 12:14-16


nmarch88 - 9/20/2009 at 03:00 AM

Okay Doug, let's do the pm's again.

Thanks
Nancy


DougMacKenzie - 9/20/2009 at 05:39 PM

"The Lord said, "Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LKord, for the Lord is about to pass by."
Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountain apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.
Then a voice said to him, "What are you doing here Elijah?"

1Kings 19:11-13


DougMacKenzie - 9/21/2009 at 11:09 AM

"Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."

Proverbs 9:10


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2009 at 11:06 AM

"I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me faithful, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, i was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. the grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus."

1 Timothy 1:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 9/23/2009 at 11:11 AM

"This is a trustworthy saying, and deserves full acceptance (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the savior of all men,and especially of those who believe."

1 Timothy 4:9-10


DougMacKenzie - 9/25/2009 at 11:07 AM

"My soul finds rest in God alone; my salvation comes from him.
He alone is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress.
I will never be shaken."

Psalms 62:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 9/27/2009 at 11:05 AM

"I tell you the truth,the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, but you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you this, you did not repent and believe him."

Matt. 21:31-32


piacere - 9/28/2009 at 12:31 AM

So Jesus said; "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the oneI claim to beand that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me".

John 8:28


DougMacKenzie - 9/28/2009 at 12:41 PM

It's easy to become angry with others when they ridicule God and the Bible, and those of us who have been transformed by God into new creatures who walk in faith with him. We can feel hurt and offended. We want to argue the finer points that can prove God's existence, or lash back at the way others attack us. All those repsones are wrong and go against God's words to us. In the end only love will remain, and so often those who seem the most unloving are the ones most in need of love. Jesus prayed for those who crucified him from the corss, and we are called to do the same. Otherwise we deny to the world God's transforming spirit in our lives and the joy that he has given us. It seems to always be about more of him and less of us, more surrender, more letting go. Only then can we be filled with the love and joy he has for us.


piacere - 10/1/2009 at 12:28 AM

Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ, God forgave you.

Ephesians 4:29-32


DougMacKenzie - 2/19/2010 at 12:27 PM

It's hard to see so many people struggling. I know I keep hearing things are getting better, but in my community I haven't seen it yet. Lots of tough times, and it is frustrating to not have the financial resources myself to help so many people out. But We all do have time, and that can sometimes be the biggest gift we have to give of all. A smile, a helping hand, a kind word, a wave to a neighbor. A little bit of that human touch.

"Then the righteous will answer him, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you s0mething to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?

The king will reply, "I tell you the truth, whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."

Matt. 25:37-40


ruthelane - 2/20/2010 at 09:46 PM

Hey Doug. Nice to see you posting here again. Don't be a stranger.


SHAWNEE - 2/20/2010 at 10:24 PM

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I loved it. I can't imagine why so many people got upset about the book. Lots of good stuff in there.


yeah, me too...

ya think it was the black female thing and the shattering of preconceived notions...?

That's what I heard was coming from the pulpit of some of the Baptsit churches out here. I thought it was pretty cool.


I have to say, that book completely got me back on track a few months ago. I was really floundering and it all made perfect sense.

that's because you are in a relationship with him...

Man, I'll tell ya, that book had a profound effect on me...

Yes, me too. really made me look at some things in a completely different light.


DougMacKenzie - 2/20/2010 at 10:26 PM

Aren't these posts refering to "The Shack"?

Hey Ruthie.


DougMacKenzie - 2/21/2010 at 03:34 PM

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Luke 18:10-14


Enzo - 2/21/2010 at 08:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGMfNe4ZRoU

You paint the night , you count the stars and call them by name
the skies proclaim , God you reign
your glory shines , you teach the sun when to bring a new day
creation sings , God you reign

You part the seas , you move the mountains with the words that you say , my song remains ,
God you reign
you hold my life , you know my heart and you call me by name
I live to say , God you reign


DougMacKenzie - 2/23/2010 at 03:26 AM

"I sought the Lord, and he answered me;
he delivered me from all my fears.
Those who look to him are radiant;
their faces are never covered with shame.
This poor man called, and the Lord heard him;
he saved him out of all of his troubles.
The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him,
and he delivers them."

Ps. 34:4-7


piacere - 2/23/2010 at 09:41 PM

Jeremiah 29:11


piacere - 2/24/2010 at 10:57 PM

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It's hard to see so many people struggling. I know I keep hearing things are getting better, but in my community I haven't seen it yet. Lots of tough times, and it is frustrating to not have the financial resources myself to help so many people out. But We all do have time, and that can sometimes be the biggest gift we have to give of all. A smile, a helping hand, a kind word, a wave to a neighbor. A little bit of that human touch.

"Then the righteous will answer him, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you s0mething to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?

The king will reply, "I tell you the truth, whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."

Matt. 25:37-40


Hmmmm...it seems to me that every answer I've ever needed is in God's Word. No matter what the situation is, good bad or indifferent, perplexing or simple, requiring deep thought and understanding or basic and elementary, a time of great need or just to charge the batteries, it's all there.
Yup, there are some tough times goin' on and lotsa people hittin' it hard. Flippin' through Psalms today, my favorite book (David was quite the complex dude and someone I can relate to) and came across Psalm 34 and verse 10 "even the young lions may grow weak and hungry but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing".


DougMacKenzie - 2/25/2010 at 12:19 PM

"Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
Or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens?
Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket,
Or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance?
Who has understood the mind of the Lord,
Or instructed him as his counselor?
Whom did the Lord consult to enlighten him,
And who taught him the right way?
Who was it that taught him knowledge,
Or showed him the path of understanding?"

Isaiah 40:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 2/25/2010 at 11:51 PM

There's a kid I work with that is too sick to go to school, so I teach him at his home a couple of times a week. He is in the 6th grade and had his kidneys removed last year. He has heart disease and has to go to dialysis three times a week. Good kid. Tough kid. His mom called me this evening and told me he was really sick and they were taking him to the hospital. He is in the same grade as my daughter, and it really drives home how fragile and special this life is and how we should never take any of it, especially our relationships, for granted. His name is Joseph. If any of you who visit this thread have some healing prayers handy, I'd appreciate you sending some up for this boy. Thanks.


piacere - 2/26/2010 at 12:19 AM

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There's a kid I work with that is too sick to go to school, so I teach him at his home a couple of times a week. He is in the 6th grade and had his kidneys removed last year. He has heart disease and has to go to dialysis three times a week. Good kid. Tough kid. His mom called me this evening and told me he was really sick and they were taking him to the hospital. He is in the same grade as my daughter, and it really drives home how fragile and special this life is and how we should never take any of it, especially our relationships, for granted. His name is Joseph. If any of you who visit this thread have some healing prayers handy, I'd appreciate you sending some up for this boy. Thanks.


done.


Slimzimm - 2/26/2010 at 05:15 AM

God of compassion, source of life and health,
give strength and new health to your servant Joseph,
and give your power of healing to those who minister to his needs.
May the touch of Jesus Christ who healed the sick
and is the physician of our souls, touch these who need him


DougMacKenzie - 2/26/2010 at 03:54 PM

Thanks for the prayers. I'll let you know how he does.


DougMacKenzie - 2/27/2010 at 03:32 PM

"He reached down from on high and took hold of me;
He drew me out of deep waters."

Ps. 18:16


DougMacKenzie - 2/28/2010 at 07:54 PM

"Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourself fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

1 Cor. 15:58


DougMacKenzie - 3/1/2010 at 12:06 PM

"You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself".

Galations 5:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 3/2/2010 at 12:21 PM

"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your father. And even the very hairs of your head are all nymbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows."

Matt. 10:29-31


DougMacKenzie - 3/3/2010 at 12:16 PM

Saw the kid I home teach last night. He's not doing great, but he's still hanging in there. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers for this kid.

"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."

John 14:27


redd1 - 3/3/2010 at 12:40 PM

Saying a prayer for Joseph this morning.


caseymac - 3/3/2010 at 12:49 PM

Praying for Joseph and his family. Doug, Would you PM me?

[Edited on 3/3/2010 by caseymac]


DougMacKenzie - 3/3/2010 at 05:37 PM

Done.


piacere - 3/3/2010 at 10:44 PM

But I call to God, and the Lord saves me.
Evening, morning and noon, I cry out in distress,
and he hears my voice...

Psalm 55 :16-17


DougMacKenzie - 3/4/2010 at 12:11 PM

"Everyone who drinks from this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of living water, welling up to eternal life."

John 4:13-14


piacere - 3/6/2010 at 01:34 PM

"...for it is with your heart that you believe..."
"...anyone who trusts in Him will never be put to shame..."

Rom. 10:10,11


DougMacKenzie - 3/7/2010 at 03:18 PM

One of the hardest things for me to do in my walk with God is accept that when I remain angry or resentful towards another person, place, or thing it means that I am doing something wrong, that I am somehow not right with God. I still have this clinging idea that if I do everything that God tells me to do, the way he tells me to do it, that I will somehow be taken advantage of and come out on the short end of things. God promises that if I do things his way I will be blessed, but I still have a hard time letting go of the idea that I have to stand for myself and instead let God stand for me, in his time and in his way.

"You have heard that it was siad,'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.' But I tell, you: Love your enemy, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, even as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Matt. 5:43-48


RickyM - 3/7/2010 at 04:31 PM

Jesus followed the Father's will. He was taken advantage of, ridiculed,talked badly about, spit on, beaten, whipped and crucified. If you are a follower of Jesus, you can expect the same treatment.This is not the way the world teaches you should accept things. More like an eye for an eye.But, we should always try our best because we can not perfectly walk in Those shoes.God's ways, are not man's ways. Thats why our world is so messed up.One of these days, we'll all wake up and walk the narrow road. Hopefully, sooner rather than later.


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2010 at 12:10 PM

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

Romans 8:28


DougMacKenzie - 3/9/2010 at 11:46 AM

"The entire law is summed up in a single command; 'Love your neighbor as yourself'."

Galatians 5:14


piacere - 3/9/2010 at 03:09 PM

But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
Jesus replied..."Which of these three (verses 30-35) do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers"?
The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him"
Jesus replied, "Go and do likewise".

Luke 10:29-37


DougMacKenzie - 3/10/2010 at 12:02 PM

"The Lord your God is with you, he is mighty to save.
He will take great delight in you,
he will quiet you with his love,
he will rejoice over you with singing."

Zephania 3:17


piacere - 3/11/2010 at 11:15 AM

"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day".

John 6:39


DougMacKenzie - 3/12/2010 at 12:15 PM

"But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfullness, gentleness, and self control. Against such things there is no law."

Galations 5:22-23


DougMacKenzie - 3/13/2010 at 02:17 PM

"For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

ephesians 2:10


caseymac - 3/13/2010 at 08:55 PM

Galations 6:9 (paraphrase)

"Hangeth thou in there oh baby!"


DougMacKenzie - 3/14/2010 at 03:31 PM

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Galations 6:9 (paraphrase)

"Hangeth thou in there oh baby!"


"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord.

Isaiah 55:8


DougMacKenzie - 3/15/2010 at 03:40 PM

"You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace;
the mountains and hills will burst into song before you,
and all the trees of the hills will clap their hands.
Instead of the thornbush will grow the pine tree,
and instead of briars the myrtle will grow.
This will be the Lord's renown, for an everlasting sign
that will not be destroyed."

Isaiah 55:12-13


piacere - 3/17/2010 at 03:26 PM

" I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world"

John 16:33


redd1 - 3/17/2010 at 06:45 PM


Slimzimm - 3/18/2010 at 02:23 AM

So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.


piacere - 3/18/2010 at 02:39 AM

Then Jesus said to her, "Your sins are forgiven". The other guests began to say among themselves, "Who is this who even forgives sins"? Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace"

Luke 7:48-50


piacere - 3/18/2010 at 02:08 PM

"My sheep listen to my voice, I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of my hand."

John 10:27,28


piacere - 3/19/2010 at 01:32 PM

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom".

Luke 12:32


DougMacKenzie - 3/19/2010 at 06:14 PM

"The spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me
because the Lord has annointed me to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor
and the day of vengence of our God to comfort all who mourn"

Isaiah 61:1-2


gina - 3/20/2010 at 05:58 AM

"Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off and it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from a woman, but woman from a man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign or authority on her head".

Corinthians 1:11:5


DougMacKenzie - 3/20/2010 at 12:43 PM

"In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God."

1 Corinthians 11:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 3/20/2010 at 12:52 PM

"As for me, I will always have hope, I will praise you more and more.
My mouth will tell of your righteousness, of your salvation all day long,
though I know not its measure."

Psalm 71:14-15


piacere - 3/20/2010 at 01:39 PM

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Matthew 28:18-20


DougMacKenzie - 3/21/2010 at 02:04 PM

"The Lord is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.
Those who know your name will trust in you,
for you, Lord, have never forsaken those who trust in you."

Ps. 9:9-10


DougMacKenzie - 3/22/2010 at 11:06 AM

"I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes a little child like this welcomes me."

Matt. 18:3-5


piacere - 3/22/2010 at 03:23 PM

"What do you want me to do for you"?, Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see". "Go", said Jesus, "your faith has healed you". Immediately, he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.

Mark 10:51,52

(Jesus said "go" but the dude stayed...and followed him...along the road...)


DougMacKenzie - 3/23/2010 at 11:17 AM

"For you did not recieve a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you recieved the spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, 'Abba, Father.' The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children."

Romans 8:15-16


piacere - 3/23/2010 at 03:23 PM

To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Jude 24-25


piacere - 3/24/2010 at 02:46 AM

the prayers of a righteous man are powerful and effective.

I forget which book of the Bible but it's in there...


Slimzimm - 3/24/2010 at 02:57 AM

And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.

Exodus 23:25


piacere - 3/24/2010 at 12:59 PM

You have been a refuge for the poor, a refuge for the needy in his distress, a shelter from the storm and a shade from the heat...

Isaiah 25:4


DougMacKenzie - 3/24/2010 at 03:39 PM

I'm so thankful to God for the way he has changed me over the years and turned me into a loving friend, father, husband, and son. Thanks Dad.


DougMacKenzie - 3/25/2010 at 10:54 AM

"This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins."

1 John 4:10


sonnystang - 3/25/2010 at 11:09 AM

Doug....is there an update on the child (Joeseph?) that you were home schooling?


DougMacKenzie - 3/25/2010 at 11:18 AM

quote:
Doug....is there an update on the child (Joeseph?) that you were home schooling?

Yes. He was too sick for school again Tuesday, I'm hoping he's better today and I can see him. He had to go to dialysis an extra day last week, and that's not good. It's all really hard on him. He lives with his mom and step dad in a tiny little shack with no heating or A\C, so this winter was hard and I'm sure the summer will be harder. He's becoming more lethargic. He just has so many health problems. When I talked to his mom Tuesday she sounded like she wasn't very optimistic, and they have such limited resources. They are getting excellent care from Cook's Children's Hospital in Ft. Worth, which is an excellent facility. I just keep praying for peace and faith for him and his family. Thanks for asking Sonny.


sonnystang - 3/25/2010 at 11:22 AM

More prayers being sent to him and his family..............thanks for the update


Slimzimm - 3/26/2010 at 03:24 AM

Fear you not; for I am with you: be not dismayed; for I am your God: I will strengthen you; yes, I will help you; yes, I will uphold you with the right hand of my righteousness.

Isaiah 41:10


DougMacKenzie - 3/26/2010 at 11:19 AM

"Dear friends, since God so loved us, we ought to love one another."

1 John 4:11


sonnystang - 3/26/2010 at 11:38 AM

thanks doug.........


piacere - 3/26/2010 at 03:04 PM

Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.

Hebrews 10: 23, 24


DougMacKenzie - 3/27/2010 at 12:46 PM

"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love because he first loved us. Anyone who says, "I love God," but hates his brother, he is a liar."

1 John 4:18-20

[Edited on 3/27/2010 by DougMacKenzie]


piacere - 3/28/2010 at 11:46 AM

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?

Hebrews 12: 7


DougMacKenzie - 3/28/2010 at 02:21 PM

"And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love."

1 John 4:16


sonnystang - 3/28/2010 at 06:14 PM

yes he is and Thanks Doug


DougMacKenzie - 3/29/2010 at 11:25 AM

"Make every effort to live in peace with all men"

Hebrews 12:14


sonnystang - 3/29/2010 at 11:27 AM


DougMacKenzie - 3/30/2010 at 11:07 AM

"Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and the love that are in Christ Jesus."

1 Timothy 1:13-14

Amen to that.


DougMacKenzie - 3/31/2010 at 11:04 AM

"Yet, O Lord, you are our father.
We are the clay, you are the potter;
we are all the work of your hands."

Isaiah 64:8


sonnystang - 3/31/2010 at 11:23 AM


caseymac - 3/31/2010 at 12:26 PM

Thanks Doug!


DougMacKenzie - 4/1/2010 at 11:06 AM

"Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus."

Phiilipians 3:12-14


piacere - 4/1/2010 at 12:30 PM

And he took the bread, gave thanks and broke it,and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you, do this in remembrance of me".

from the Last Supper

Luke 22: 19


piacere - 4/2/2010 at 11:25 AM

"Father, into your hands I commit my spirit"

Luke 23:46


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2010 at 11:27 AM

Thanks Mark. Happy Easter to all.

"This changes everything".


sonnystang - 4/2/2010 at 11:43 AM


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2010 at 08:34 PM

"Why do you seek the living among the dead?"

Mark, you got a PM.


piacere - 4/4/2010 at 12:36 AM

quote:
"Why do you seek the living among the dead?"

Mark, you got a PM.


you do too...

Happy Resurrection Day, my brothers and sisters.

Thank you, Our living Savior. What a price you paid...for me. For me, you suffered and died...and for me, you overcame death, so I can live.

What a Savior !!!!


sonnystang - 4/4/2010 at 12:43 AM


Slimzimm - 4/4/2010 at 03:17 PM

But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 24:27


DougMacKenzie - 4/4/2010 at 10:47 PM

My heart was bad; the world had crowded out the Word so even though I had heard it, I did not believe it. My heart overflowed with useless dead things and was full of absolutely nothing. When Jesus died for me he offered me a new heart; his. I took it. Thanks Dad.


sonnystang - 4/4/2010 at 10:59 PM

Tom, Doug and everyone else....hope you all had a good Easter


DougMacKenzie - 4/5/2010 at 10:37 AM

"I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil - this is the gift of God."

Ecclesiastes 3:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 4/6/2010 at 11:20 AM

"Consider what God has done. Who can straighten what he has made crooked?
When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider:
God has made the one as well as the other."

Ecclesiastes 7:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 4/7/2010 at 10:50 AM

A voice says, "Cry out."
And I said, "What shall I cry?"
"All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field.
The grass withers and the flowers fall, because the breath of the Lord blows on them.
Surely the people are grass.
The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our God stands forever."

Isaiah 40:6-8


sonnystang - 4/7/2010 at 11:05 AM

thanks Doug............


DougMacKenzie - 4/8/2010 at 11:20 AM

I want to be compelled by your love to act for good today Father, not becuase it is the right thing to do, but because you have changed my heart to match yours and there is no other alternative. Amen.


DougMacKenzie - 4/9/2010 at 10:45 AM

Just wanted to ask for continued prayers for my homebound student Joseph. He has been in the hospital all week. Please pray that he gets to return home and for peace and comfort for he and his family. Thanks. You folks are the best.


nmarch88 - 4/9/2010 at 11:54 PM

Prayers offered Doug.

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster, I, the Lord do all these things" Isaiah 45:7

Once, I read this thing, it was a long time ago, I don't know who wrote it, I think it was like examples of the way we pray and the things we ask God for and the one I remember goes something like this,
Dear God please heal my handicapped child.
And God's response was, "her body is temporary, her soul will be with me"

It's so difficult to watch someone we care about suffer. My prayers will include you too Doug. Thanks for loving this child so much.

Nancy


piacere - 4/10/2010 at 02:40 AM

quote:
Just wanted to ask for continued prayers for my homebound student Joseph. He has been in the hospital all week. Please pray that he gets to return home and for peace and comfort for he and his family. Thanks. You folks are the best.


prayers will continue, my brother.

I had some time today waiting in my car and on the local Christian radio, a pastor was giving a sermon on Joshua 1: 5-9, as follows;

5)" No one will be able to stand up against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you.6) Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their forefathers to give them.7) Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go.8) Do not let this Book of the Law depart from your mouth, meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. 9) Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified, do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go."


DougMacKenzie - 4/10/2010 at 12:09 PM

"The Lord is my shepherd...."


piacere - 4/10/2010 at 03:24 PM

listened to another show this morning on WARV, a local Christian station (AM, btw and they need a new transmitter, AM radio is so tough to pick up, especially driving )

two guys from a church a few of my friends go to were hosting this show.

I strongly suggest that those of us who believe get good sound Biblical doctrine from a number of outlets. Not only the Bible, which in itself is sufficient but from other writings (again, based on solid Biblical doctrine) radio shows..( Dr.'s Stanley and Swindoll are AWESOME !!!) and other believers.

I say this to all of you for your edification, as well as mine.

God bless...


nmarch88 - 4/11/2010 at 12:40 AM

I agree with you piacere. Stanley and Swindoll are two of my favorites. Max Lucado is superb, especially "He Still Moves Stones". Phillip Yancey is excellent especially in the area of struggling with God. These last two are authors of course but the point is, there are others venues for the message.

I kind of feel like maybe I've offended someone with my last post. I certainly did not intend to. My thoughts were of how hard this is for Doug...and of course for Joseph and his family. In my experience in these oh so very difficult situations it's sometimes easy to lose sight of the fact that God is in control. He knows the suffering of this precious family and as hard as it is to witness we must never forget His ways are not our ways. We have to believe that He knows what He's doing.

I commend Doug's action with this child and this family. I'm thankful he is able to bring light into this very dark situation. It takes a lot of strength to do that, especially when the situation involves such a very young life. So I thank God for reminding me that He sends us where we are needed and gives us the tools to do the job. And for showing me such a shining example of that in Doug. He could say "Lord, it's just too hard". Like Moses saying "Here I am Lord, send Aaron". And I ask God to sustain Doug, to strengthen him daily and bless his family.

So that was really long winded. I apologize. And I bet my fear of offending someone was imagined anyway. But it felt good to say all that. I'll be quiet now.


DougMacKenzie - 4/11/2010 at 02:07 AM

I can't imagine anyone being offended by anything you've posted, and I'd be very surprised if anyone was. I know I need and appreciate all the prayers I can get. That's one of the ways we strengthen and sharpen each other, like iron.

"Love one another as I have loved you."


nmarch88 - 4/11/2010 at 12:01 PM

It was just a feeling.


piacere - 4/11/2010 at 04:07 PM

I highly doubt you offended anyone. I thought it was a pretty cool post actually.

take comfort in that you are surrounded by love here in this thread...


nmarch88 - 4/12/2010 at 01:31 AM

Thanks guys. It's a stressful time for me right now and fear always gets a good hold at times like these. Fear of EVERYTHING. I really like this thread. Especially when I'm stretched so thin. It helps me take my eyes off myself and my unfounded fears for a little while.


nmarch88 - 4/12/2010 at 01:57 AM

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see"
Heb 11:1


sonnystang - 4/12/2010 at 10:10 AM

Continued prayers going out to Dougs' student Joseph.............


DougMacKenzie - 4/12/2010 at 10:25 AM

"I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Matt. 28:20


nmarch88 - 4/12/2010 at 01:57 PM

"Come to me, all who are weary and heavy burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" Matt 11:28

Okay, maybe I need some help. I wish I could put it all out here, but it would be one of those really long posts that take up most of the page. It's just life really. But it's hard, really hard right now. I'm asking for prayers for my 5 year old grandson, Kaleb and his 2 year old brother Silas. They're not sick, but struggling just the same. Visiting with a doctor today to see if she can help Kaleb. I REALLY don't believe he has ADD, I really, truly believe he is angry. Of course he couldn't say he's angry or about what and doesn't have the ability to deal with it. But he's getting in trouble at school and at home and doesn't seem to be able to control it. He doesn't mean to get in trouble. That's not an overly protective grandmother talking, it bothers him too that he gets in trouble. I just want to help him. I feel very weary.

Thanks.




piacere - 4/12/2010 at 05:24 PM

that Matthew 11 :28 verse is about as comforting as anything anyone could say to you.

y'know, lately, the past couple of months or so, I've been really getting deep into my faith and the more I do, it seems the tougher things get. Makes me think of Job. Now there's an awesome book. Anyway, I may have mentioned before, if not then Doug certainly knows this, that prior to being saved when I was 38 (I'll be 54 soon) I was a pretty not nice guy. Hard, HARD drinking, drugs, from heroin to coke to anything I could get my hands on...and violent and self-righteous and pretty much lost. But I had "things".
Now, saved 16 years later, sober and made righteous by the blood of Christ, it seems there are more tests, trials and tribulations than before. Before, there weren't any. I was in the dark.

People think being a Christian is easy, or a "crutch" or that we're weak in that we've given in to God because the world is too much. Well...yeah. I tried the other "crutches", didn't work out too good. I believe that God has everything in control and the situations and people and issues that confront us are there in His perfect purpose.I've talked to a few pastors lately, some heavy hittin' Christians, listened to some great sermons on the radio, read some good, sound literature on our faith and have come to the firm conclusion that being a Christian JUST AIN'T EASY !!!

sorry I've gone on but remember, trials will come. Like Jesus said, they will come. I'll keep you in prayer. I heard some awful news today concerning a woman I used to work for and her two grandchildren and her lost ex-daughter-in-law. What a mess !! and this woman is a solid Christian.

Anyway, be comforted in Christ. He's awesome.

Oh, check out Ravi Zaccharias as well. Tremendous.


nmarch88 - 4/13/2010 at 01:42 AM

I know piacere, the verse kept going through my mind this morning. Because I was feeling weary. This is not a new situation. I bet your friend and I have a very similar story. And the fallout hits the kids. Doc today agreed with me, Kaleb is angry. There is nothing solid underneath him. Until now. Actually, my daughter moving home with these two gifts was answer to previous prayer. Man, it would take all night to tell you how many ways God has showed His hand in all this, but still there are consequences to deal with. And you are so right, the closer we walk with God, or maybe the more we seek Him, things do seem to intensify. Read this book once "Eli", there's a Jesus character and all the diciples, very cool book, anyway, the Peter character is struggling so much with Eli and the way he goes about things, and once he's really frustrated and says,"How can I ever be like you when every time I try to be the man you want me to be you raise the bar?" and Eli says "Keep saying yes to me and that's exactly what you'll be.

You know, Kaleb's issues, his trouble is not just normal everyday, really active kid trouble. It can be quite distressing as I'm sure is the case with your friend. I look at this little boy and know he is way too small to have to deal with all the crap that follows him around. And it breaks my heart. But know this. I'm going to climb this mountain. I may get weary, but I won't give up. But I will do it with the help of the prayers of others and I thank you for yours. You know it's just spring, working really long hours 6 days a week and trying to handle all this at home and some my Mom issues as well, just kind of piles up sometimes. Please keep us in your prayers for now and I will remember you in mine.

Nancy

















DougMacKenzie - 4/13/2010 at 11:23 AM

"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have recieved from God."

2 Corinthians 1:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 4/14/2010 at 11:26 AM

"Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, for I know that through your prayers and the help given by Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance. I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain."

Phillipians 1:18-21


piacere - 4/14/2010 at 06:15 PM

Therefore, since we have been made right in God's sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us.

Romans 5:1


DougMacKenzie - 4/15/2010 at 11:11 AM

"Keep on loving each other as brothers".

Hebrews 13:1


Slimzimm - 4/15/2010 at 11:28 AM

And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

James 5:15


RickyM - 4/15/2010 at 01:42 PM

quote:
"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have recieved from God."

2 Corinthians 1:3-4

How true this is ! I believe God in His wisdom turns the tragic things that happen in our lives to good in this way. Who better to help someone else,than a person who has walked in those shoes ?


DougMacKenzie - 4/16/2010 at 11:19 AM

"My dear brothers, take note of this. Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."

James 1:19-20


piacere - 4/16/2010 at 12:13 PM

Therefore, prepare your minds for action; be self-controlled; set your hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed.

1Peter 1 :13


nmarch88 - 4/17/2010 at 12:06 AM

Man, Doug and piacere, were you with me today? Those last two posts were sent for me, I promise. You will be pleased to know that the angrier I got, the more I prayed, take this away from me and shut my mouth. Now I have a better idea how to handle the situation.


piacere - 4/18/2010 at 12:38 AM

quote:
Man, Doug and piacere, were you with me today? Those last two posts were sent for me, I promise. You will be pleased to know that the angrier I got, the more I prayed, take this away from me and shut my mouth. Now I have a better idea how to handle the situation.


"Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Be joyful in hope, patient in affiction, faithful in prayer. Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice, mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited."

Romans 12:9-16


DougMacKenzie - 4/18/2010 at 06:06 PM

"Consider it pure joy, my brothers, when you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything."

James 1:2-4


piacere - 4/19/2010 at 12:19 AM

"May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."

Romans 15:13


DougMacKenzie - 4/19/2010 at 10:45 AM

"Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him."

James 1:12


jpfudd5 - 4/19/2010 at 10:55 AM

Keep my uncle David in your prayers please... wife has run off with their 4 kids, he is a great guy, she is a little crazy. Threatening divorce.


piacere - 4/19/2010 at 12:36 PM

quote:
Keep my uncle David in your prayers please... wife has run off with their 4 kids, he is a great guy, she is a little crazy. Threatening divorce.


will do.


nmarch88 - 4/19/2010 at 01:02 PM

prayers sent for Uncle David and family today.


jpfudd5 - 4/19/2010 at 05:36 PM

Thanks guys


DougMacKenzie - 4/20/2010 at 11:28 AM

"Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says."

James 1:22


nmarch88 - 4/21/2010 at 12:19 AM

My son called last night looking for a scripture, I usually have good recall on this but this one stuck me so I went to the source. He was looking in Jeremiah, man..... I need God to speak to me the way He spoke to Jeremiah..."Ah, Sovereign Lord, I do not know how to speak, I am only a child" The Lord said "Do not say 'I am only a child'. You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you."

And Job, piacere, you mentioned this one the other day. I love Job chapter 38, one of my favorites,. "Brace yourself like a man, I will question you and you shall answer Me"

The point is, and I hope I'm understood here, I'm not in need of soft, comfort, easy,...
I'm in need of strong words, I need to be taken by the shoulders and shaken. I need God to call me a selfish, self absorbed, self centered, impudent little child. And maybe that's why Seth called and asked about that scripture in Jeremiah.


DougMacKenzie - 4/21/2010 at 01:51 AM

"Therefore strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. Make level paths for your feet, so that the lame may not be disabled, but rahter healed."

Hebrews 12:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 4/21/2010 at 10:47 AM

"For he word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

Hebrews 4:12


SHAWNEE - 4/21/2010 at 04:39 PM

I got baptized last Sunday. It was awesome, my friends were there and I wore my Allman Bros T-shirt!


DougMacKenzie - 4/21/2010 at 05:41 PM

That is so cool. I got baptized when I was 45. My wife and kids and several family members were there. It was an awesome moment that I will cherish forever.


DougMacKenzie - 4/22/2010 at 11:05 AM

"Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."

Hebrews 4:16


piacere - 4/22/2010 at 11:16 AM

quote:
I got baptized last Sunday. It was awesome, my friends were there and I wore my Allman Bros T-shirt!


Praise God !!! Very cool.

I got baptized when I was 39. (I'll be 54 May 1st )

Packed house, standing room only. About a dozen young kids were getting baptized the same night as me, as well as one other adult, a woman. The kids went first, then the woman, then me. The kids brought their whole families !!! Had to be 500 people in a room built for 350. Great night, I'll never forget it. (You won't either.. )


piacere - 4/22/2010 at 11:38 AM

quote:
My son called last night looking for a scripture, I usually have good recall on this but this one stuck me so I went to the source. He was looking in Jeremiah, man..... I need God to speak to me the way He spoke to Jeremiah..."Ah, Sovereign Lord, I do not know how to speak, I am only a child" The Lord said "Do not say 'I am only a child'. You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you."

And Job, piacere, you mentioned this one the other day. I love Job chapter 38, one of my favorites,. "Brace yourself like a man, I will question you and you shall answer Me"

The point is, and I hope I'm understood here, I'm not in need of soft, comfort, easy,...
I'm in need of strong words, I need to be taken by the shoulders and shaken. I need God to call me a selfish, self absorbed, self centered, impudent little child. And maybe that's why Seth called and asked about that scripture in Jeremiah.


"Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one."

Ephesians 6:14-16


nmarch88 - 4/23/2010 at 12:59 AM

Thanks Doug and piacere. Just keep doing what you do.

Amen SHAWNEE!


DougMacKenzie - 4/23/2010 at 11:04 AM

"Then we will no longer be infans, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work"

Ephesians 4:14-16


sonnystang - 4/23/2010 at 11:08 AM

quote:
I got baptized last Sunday. It was awesome, my friends were there and I wore my Allman Bros T-shirt!


Congrats SHAWNEE............

and thanks Doug.............


DougMacKenzie - 4/24/2010 at 01:03 PM

"Love never fails."

1 Corinthians 13:9


SHAWNEE - 4/24/2010 at 07:32 PM

Thanks, guys. I'm 56. I was baptized as a baby, but I feel maybe it should be a conscious decision. We have a huge church, and it's so generous and so loving. I'll never forget it. If I knew how to do a pic, I'd post one!! We have a knock-out band too..one of the leaders sang Knockin' on Heaven's Door..like Harrison's version. It was perfect!!
Flatirons Community Church in Lafayette CO. The services are on line as well as a class they're having right now..Big Questions about Christianity, in case anyone's interested.


nmarch88 - 4/24/2010 at 10:25 PM

My son did the same thing. He was 19 the second time. A very special time for him too. I rejoice with you!


DougMacKenzie - 4/25/2010 at 12:29 AM

That is so cool on the baptism stuff. I did it out of a conviction to be obedient, and it was and continues to be such a huge blessing. I remember having to give a short testimony aand breaking down in the middle of it. I was so overwhelmed by God's grace and love. My daughter, who was about 5 at the time, came running up to me and jumped in my arms. For the briefest of moments I was standing in heaven. Thanks for posting your moments. Helps me remember how good God is to us if we let him.


DougMacKenzie - 4/25/2010 at 05:25 PM

"Becuase of injustice, many people's love will grow cold. But he who endures to the end will be saved."

I believe that in the end the only thing that will remain is God's love. Everything else will be burned up and gone. I wonder how much of myself, full of and part of God's love, will remain?


piacere - 4/25/2010 at 11:20 PM

quote:
"Becuase of injustice, many people's love will grow cold. But he who endures to the end will be saved."

I believe that in the end the only thing that will remain is God's love. Everything else will be burned up and gone. I wonder how much of myself, full of and part of God's love, will remain?


I never studied Revelation. Read it many times but never delved into it as a Bible study. One of these days....

Jesus was asked, Matthew 22:23-33, about marriage in Heaven and His (Jesus') response was that we'll be like the angels in Heaven. Not sure if this is where you were going with your post. I can't imagine any part of our humaness remains.

Thank God.


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2010 at 12:07 AM

I'm thinking whatever parts of me I have totally surrendered to God to be transformed into the likeness of his son will be all that is left of "me." I just hope there's enough left to find.


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2010 at 12:09 AM

And that verse is in Matthew, chap 24 or 25 I think, when the apostles are asking Jesus about the end of the age. How 'ya feeling brother?


piacere - 4/26/2010 at 02:36 AM

quote:
And that verse is in Matthew, chap 24 or 25 I think, when the apostles are asking Jesus about the end of the age. How 'ya feeling brother?


like a truck ran over me. then backed up just for good measure.

how 'bout you?


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2010 at 10:56 AM

Sorry to hear that Mark. The family and I are keeping "that yankee guy" in our thoughts and prayers. My daughter asked me if you were the guy who left that message on our answering machine that time "that sounded so funny", and my son still talks about "the other" Patriot fan . I guess you're parrt of the family. We're pulling for you bro.


piacere - 4/26/2010 at 03:25 PM

"sounded so funny"

I was listening to Dr. Charles Stanley this morning. His sermon; being strong and courageous while patiently waiting for God to reveal His plan. He quoted Psalms and David's words of encouragement. The timing of God's plan is perfect.


Patriots - 4/28/2010 at 01:37 AM

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

II Corinthians 4:18


DougMacKenzie - 4/28/2010 at 10:59 AM

"So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."

1 Corinthians 10:31


Patriots - 4/28/2010 at 09:49 PM

Sometimes, it just ain't easy but then again, it's not supposed to be easy. When I read about what Paul went through, he and the other Christian brothers forming the early church and compare it to my price for glorifying the sweet name of Jesus and the lightness of my cross compared to theirs, I am truly blessed.

Jesus is the best friend I'll ever have. His words are perfect.


DougMacKenzie - 4/29/2010 at 11:25 AM

"I have told you these things so that in me you may have peace. In the world, you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

John 16:33


DougMacKenzie - 4/30/2010 at 10:53 AM

"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider himn who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart."

Hebrews 12:2-3


sonnystang - 4/30/2010 at 10:55 AM

Thanks Doug and have a good weekend......


DougMacKenzie - 5/2/2010 at 04:25 PM

"You see, at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Romans 5:6-8


piacere - 5/3/2010 at 01:57 AM

How great is the love the Father has lavished on us that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him.

1John 3:1


DougMacKenzie - 5/3/2010 at 02:28 PM

His master replied, "Well done, my good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness."

Matt. 25:21


piacere - 5/4/2010 at 01:13 AM

God's plan...and His timing...are perfect.

Proof?

Doug knows that my ultimate goal is long term missions work in Africa. I've brought the idea to him a few times. Well, in church yesterday, I'm talking to one of the elders and mentioned it to him, how I'm having a tough time getting the ball rolling (it's been nearly two years...) and he said, "Mark, how's this for God's timing. First thing you should do is a short term missions trip and as God would have it, we have one spot open for the church's trip to Haiti in June."

Got a call tonight from the trip's leader and told him that money was an issue. (the flight, incidentals, etc.) "No worries, Mark, there's enough money left in the scholarship fund".

I thought I was going to BUST. Folks, you are reading the words from one blessed man. God knew...He just knew what was on my heart (He put it there !!) and opened this door for me and I'm certain through faith and trust in Him, that serving Him in Africa will one day happen.

I stayed patient, I perservered, I prayed. The door has been opened.

I'm about as excited as I've ever been. Too awesome. Thanks for taking the time to read this, sorry I went on 'n' on...


nmarch88 - 5/4/2010 at 01:32 AM

FANTASTIC MARK!! God is truly amazing.

Thank you for sharing your good news with us. I will pray for this trip and for you.

My son will go to China on the 23rd for a month long mission. I've been praying for him and his group on this trip.....and myself, China can be scary when it comes to religion or anything to do with God.

Anyway, great for you, I never cease to be amazed at how God works.

Nancy


DougMacKenzie - 5/4/2010 at 01:33 AM

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, and the new has come! All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us."

2 Corinthians 5:18-20

Mark Congrats brother. The family ius keeping you in our prayers. Will you be at DFW for any lay over?


DougMacKenzie - 5/4/2010 at 01:15 PM

I talked to a guy last week who has spent the last 30 years of his life in Pau Pau New Guinea as a missionary. He talked about all the blessings he has received for following God's calling, the peace and serenity of a life walked within that context despite any hardships or troubles involved. A life lived compelled by God's love to serve others. All those who do so are my heroes. Prayers for safety and peace to all.


piacere - 5/4/2010 at 08:23 PM

Thank you, Nancy. It never ceases to amaze me either. It's not only that, but God's timing and His plan are so perfect and thus, not in accordance with our time or plans. His are perfect, ours are disaster. Anyway, I'll pray as well for you and your son. China...hmmm, that's a tough call. God bless him. We need to send the word out to all nations...

Doug man my brother...I don't want to call my plans "tentative" because I'd like to think they're a bit more definitive than that. Let's call 'em "preliminary". As such, I have no idea what my travel itinerary is. As it is now, I might be on a separate, later in the day flight. Other than that, I don't know much. Should I in fact have a layover in Big D, I'll be sure to bring along a spiffy Patriots tee shirt. Your size.


nmarch88 - 5/4/2010 at 08:36 PM

"we need to send the word out to all nations...", is there a but in there, because believe me, I seriously questioned Seth about this. He assures me he believes this is what he is supposed to do. So, I have tried not to push him too hard, I mean, who am I to say different? I'm not real comfortable with it, I pray about it, but...I'm not sure I have the peace that passes all understanding about it. Any thoughts from everyone would be greatly appreciated.


DougMacKenzie - 5/5/2010 at 10:53 AM

And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that we walk in love."

2 John 1:5-6


piacere - 5/5/2010 at 12:28 PM

quote:
"we need to send the word out to all nations...", is there a but in there, because believe me, I seriously questioned Seth about this. He assures me he believes this is what he is supposed to do. So, I have tried not to push him too hard, I mean, who am I to say different? I'm not real comfortable with it, I pray about it, but...I'm not sure I have the peace that passes all understanding about it. Any thoughts from everyone would be greatly appreciated.


The Great Commission...

Matthew 28:16-20

Mark 16:15

Luke 24:47


nmarch88 - 5/5/2010 at 12:42 PM

Man, I really love you guys, you made me cry.

"Blessed are the tears that fall, that clean the windows of the soul and bring a joy that angels know.."

Thanks so much.


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2010 at 11:15 AM

"We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I Love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar."

1 John 4:19-20


piacere - 5/6/2010 at 01:31 PM

it's looking like my layover is in Miami. I'm having some passport (expired)/vaccination(had mine two years ago) issues.



I've got all kinds of people working feverishly to make this happen for me.

God bless their hearts...


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2010 at 01:35 PM

Keep pushing brother. We're praying for you (and your poor, beleagured franchise!).


piacere - 5/6/2010 at 01:46 PM

quote:
Keep pushing brother. We're praying for you (and your poor, beleagured franchise!).




thanks DUG. It's a comforting feeling knowing that someone is praying for you. I pray for you too all the time, as you know. I figure it this way, I have my trust and faith in God, if He wants this to happen...it will happen. If He has other plans, I follow. By hook or by crook, I'm doing missions work...sooner or later.


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2010 at 01:48 PM

I would say you already are.


piacere - 5/6/2010 at 02:06 PM

quote:
I would say you already are.



you're one of the greatest blessings in my life.

thanks man.

there's been a tugging at my heart the past couple of years for me to go beyond where I'm at spiritually. To go out and help and serve. I ask Him all the time, I ask Him to teach me to listen. He's broken me down to virtually nothing lately and now, I believe, is forming me into the plans He's had all along. Me...fighting and kicking and screaming in all my pride and vanity and ego all these years, I've finally surrended completely to His will and He's opening doors I never even knew existed. It's amazing.


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2010 at 02:39 PM

quote:
quote:
I would say you already are.



you're one of the greatest blessings in my life.

thanks man.

there's been a tugging at my heart the past couple of years for me to go beyond where I'm at spiritually. To go out and help and serve. I ask Him all the time, I ask Him to teach me to listen. He's broken me down to virtually nothing lately and now, I believe, is forming me into the plans He's had all along. Me...fighting and kicking and screaming in all my pride and vanity and ego all these years, I've finally surrended completely to His will and He's opening doors I never even knew existed. It's amazing.

And oh, that magic feeling, no place to go......


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2010 at 06:24 PM

Life is full of good things and good people. It isn't hard to find either one. God is truly good to us.


nmarch88 - 5/7/2010 at 12:43 AM

Just keep walking Mark, your faith will sustain you. You remain in my thoughts and prayers.


piacere - 5/7/2010 at 01:11 AM

quote:
Just keep walking Mark, your faith will sustain you. You remain in my thoughts and prayers.


...and you in mine.


DougMacKenzie - 5/7/2010 at 11:21 AM

"Now it is God who makes us stand firm in Christ. He annointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come."

2 Corinthians 1:21-22


piacere - 5/7/2010 at 01:30 PM

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.

John 10:27


nmarch88 - 5/9/2010 at 12:23 PM

Morning. This is the first Sunday I've had off since January. Looking forward to a day with the family.

Doug, I've been thinking about Joseph lately, been meaning to ask if you could give us an update.

Hope everyone has a great Mother's Day.


DougMacKenzie - 5/9/2010 at 05:09 PM

Joseph has been doing better over the last month, more energy and able to focus more. Hope it lasts for a while, and thanks so much for asking.

"You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts."

2 Corinthians 3:3


DougMacKenzie - 5/10/2010 at 11:25 AM

"For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine on our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ."

2 Corinthians 4:6


nmarch88 - 5/11/2010 at 01:26 AM

I'm so lost and I can't find my way. We're in way over our head with Kaleb. Please pray for us.


nmarch88 - 5/11/2010 at 01:46 AM

"Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have summoned you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you..."


nmarch88 - 5/11/2010 at 02:33 AM

"Be still, and know that I am God"


DougMacKenzie - 5/11/2010 at 10:47 AM

"But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all surpassing power is from God and not from us. We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed."

2 Corinthians 4:7-9


piacere - 5/12/2010 at 12:59 AM

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I'm so lost and I can't find my way. We're in way over our head with Kaleb. Please pray for us.


I always pray for you.

I was food shopping just now...Dave Matthews' "Where are you going" song was playing.

"I am no Superman, I have no answers for you
I'm no hero, oh that's for sure..."

so...what could I say to you? Lost and can't find our way...we have those moments but take heart, He has overcome the world !! Was listening to Michael Yousef on the way home from shopping after the Matthews tune really put me in a sour mood and he (Yousef...who is brilliant and fantastic, by the way, a must listen) was saying that we need to go beyond being "crisis Christians" and grow into confident ones, then continuous, then contageous (sp.). Often, we become Christians, and I'm quoting him now, because of a crisis that has taken place, which is ok, the reason doesn't matter but we need to grow beyond that into confident ones. Confident in God's word, God's promise.

I know I've gone on 'n' on...again, Nancy, and these are mere words on your monitor but rest assured that God's plan is perfect, consider it all a blessing, the trials and hardships as well as the easy days and that somewhere in little ol' Rhode Island, a brother prays for you.


piacere - 5/12/2010 at 01:11 AM

one more thing. I should probably let you all know and respond out in the open to your really nice pm, Nancy.

Not going to Haiti.

Yet.

Like in your pm Nancy, other things have to take place first. Other issues need to be dealt with. Issues that I'm positive God wants me to take care of before I can go.

Our church goes again in September. A few other places as well in the fall and it's still on my heart to go and serve. Meantime, I have a ministry here that needs my attention.

Fret not...I am going...just not on this trip.


nmarch88 - 5/12/2010 at 01:50 AM

Oh Mark, I'm sorry you're not going now. I know you really wanted to. But it's still all good. I agree, you will get there.

I appreciate Michael Youseff, I like the way he sometimes puts in my face. I know it must seem like I'm one of those crises people, sometimes I am. I need you all to know that I thank God every day for all the blessings we have. And they are too many to count, believe me I've tried. And man, the way He has put our family back together is nothing short of a miracle, and that's the truth. "How you make good of this mess I've made is a profound mystery.." It's just that, when I'm coming out of an incident with Kaleb, it's usually ... well, I'm just spent. Last night I was really at the end of everything I had, I just needed prayer, to get up and do it again. We knew when we brought them home we would have some issues, we didn't expect the violence or the viciousness through which these issues would come. I personally have never experienced anything like this. I really do know it's all part of the plan, and I've already been given everything I need to see this through, actually, healing Kaleb couldn't happen without us, and thankfully we were judged worthy. And this week my husband is out of town on busisness so it's just me. And I'm just whining like the baby I am. I hurt so much for this little boy who hurts so much. I don't go about this emotionally, but I get emotional when I can finally settle him down. Last night our little interlude lasted about 6 hours. So, it's kind of letting it all out or go or something. I can't get it out right, I'll stop.

Without you guys, I don 't know if I could do it. Just knowing you're here for me to run to when I need to. I literally cannot thank ya'll enough for all you do, and all the prayers. I don't talk about all this away from here and I'm one of those people, that it just has to come out. I apologize for the length of this post and thank you for just for reading. Soon, very soon, I'll be better.


DougMacKenzie - 5/12/2010 at 11:27 AM

One of the things I've found to be so true in this walk is that so often when people think they are getting something from me they are actually giving something to me. I check this thread every day, at the start of my day, as part of mey "time" with God. When people post real stuff that is going on, it helps me focus more on how much I need God and how wonderful this walk with him really is. One thing I know is true: God loves us and has plans to bless us beyond our wildest imaginations, not just then, but now. He's blessed me through the love you have for this kid this morning.

"Greater love has no man than this; that he lay down his life for his friends."

John 15:13


piacere - 5/12/2010 at 12:47 PM

I come to this thread too every morning. I may not post, but I'm here.

Nancy, no post is too lengthy.

"And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another."

2John:5


DougMacKenzie - 5/12/2010 at 01:19 PM

piacere's post above was post # 666. Coincidence?


piacere - 5/12/2010 at 01:42 PM

quote:
piacere's post above was post # 666. Coincidence?



wow. You told me some time ago, there are no coincidences, only God's plan...and I agree. I had no idea it was going to be number 666.

So, how's my post for giving the devil the boot? Without even realizing what I was doing (again) God covered it.


piacere - 5/12/2010 at 02:00 PM

we're blessed.

I've been thinking of that post for the past few minutes. As far as I know, which isn't far, this is the only truly Christian thread on the ABB website. ( Good on ya, DUG, ya did good ) There are "discussions" over in the WP but they amount to no conclusive agreements. Here, we are firm and steadfast in our agreement that Jesus Christ is Lord of all.

Anyway, I really had no idea. None. ( I usually don't) Isn't it something that our Heavenly Father wouldn't allow that number to be a negative post but one mentioning love? Once again, He handles what I go stumbling through.


nmarch88 - 5/13/2010 at 02:39 AM

It is absolutely believable that something meant for negative, God will use for good. And it was cool the way He did it wasn't it? Like just to show He can.

n-kay, so we had a better evening tonight. When we got home, I sat them both down with me, held their hands and prayed. Maybe God just gave us all a break, because this morning made last night look easy. Yes, again last night, every night just about...but anyway, we had a good evening. I am so thankful. I really need Kaleb to know that I truly love him, a deep, abiding love, one that will take all this and keep coming back. The way God loves me.... and him. We had the opportunity to say these kinds of things this afternoon and it was truly a gift.

When I came to this website, I had absolutely no idea I would find this. I'm so far behind the times I was just excited to find this much Allman Bros in one place. I couldn't tell you what's really going on with the Allman Bros right now, I hope that doesn't get me in trouble... I spend all my time in here. But it's so cool how God brought me here. Through the Allman Brothers? Really? Well okay then. I'm so glad He did. It's a small world after all.




DougMacKenzie - 5/13/2010 at 11:10 AM

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."

1 Corinthians 13:4-6


piacere - 5/14/2010 at 03:58 AM

Not one of my better nights. I can't claim perfection but make no excuses. I thank God for His Son. His mercy, love and forgiveness. How and why He died for the likes of me.

Amazing grace.


DougMacKenzie - 5/14/2010 at 11:19 AM

"This is my command: Love each other."

Jn 15:17

Man, I need help with this. I so often lay down the spiritual perspective and pick up the temporal one. Lay down God's vision for my own. I'm so much better than I used to be, but I still have so far to go. God, please help me to see my neighbor through your eyes. Amen.


nmarch88 - 5/14/2010 at 01:14 PM

"a physical world creates a spiritual haze.."

the selfish nature is always in conflict with the spiritual nature, can't quote exact verse right now, but in Romans 9, 10 or 11, "God has given all men over to disobedience so that He may have mercy on them all". Sometimes it's quite difficult to see others the way God does, and sometimes I wonder, maybe He does see them the way we do, His capacity for forgiveness is much greater than ours, and His justice never seems to be swift or harsh enough in our minds. And thank God for that too, because lots of days I would require that same harsh justice. Make that every day. Maybe it's an exercise, not necessarily to draw closer to God, but to show Him to others. And that is TOUGH. Especially when you're neighbor acts like they need a time out. So in my mind this is how I see it. "We hold this treasure in jars of clay..", I know clay pots, they crack, they break, they chip, very vulnerable vessels, and so are we. The disappointment is the consequence I think. And sometimes, maybe even if it doesn't feel good, God wanted you to display that attitude, because in the earthly realm, that's how He feels too.

Love you man.


peachheadcpl - 5/14/2010 at 02:21 PM

Doug - So sorry to hear of your troubles. Will include you and your family in my prayers!
When thinks get me down or seem overwhelming, I think of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who took on unimaginable suffering and every insult and injury to this day - all for love of us, who deserve nothing, but were offered mercy and eternal life instead. We are so loved and so fortunate!


piacere - 5/14/2010 at 02:27 PM

well....there are a few areas in my Christian walk that need some refining. No, they need a jackhammer. I get so disappointed and angry with myself when my pride and ego overtake me and my witness suffers immeasurably because of that. I let down my brothers and sisters and my testimony becomes worthless...and it takes a long time, if ever, to regain any spiritual effect I may have had on someone who is not a follower of Christ. It causes a lot of damage. Thankfully, by the grace and mercy of God, I'm forgiven but a lesson must be learned. It's imperative. As Christians, we forgive as many times as is asked of us and I do that freely and with gladness. My prayer is that other Christians forgive me my transgressions...and, that I walk on a less slippery path.


nmarch88 - 5/14/2010 at 03:21 PM

well Mark, of course you're right...and it does hurt and it is disappointing, and a lesson is learned....man, I know I'm really pushing the envelope here, but, our credibility is imperative, but is it really credible that we never make a mistake or get caught up in a situation, I mean does anyone really avoid all pitfalls? A lot of non believers will use any excuse to say they're right, but it would be totally unbelievable to me if anyone tried to convince me that by being a Christian, I'm excempt from all shortcomings and missteps. As Christians, we do regret our actions, we do realize the consequences of things said or done. We do know to ask for forgiveness. "I'm still a man in need of savior.." We do know that God will overcome our weakness. Your witness is indeed essential, but it is God who brings understanding and knowledge to those whom He chooses. Romans 7, the good I want to do I do not do and the bad I do not want to do, I do, Oh what a wretched man I am... But now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, and go the rest of the way, what a powerful book. Especially 9, 10 and 11. Don't think I'm letting you off the hook, I'm not, your distress is the consequence of your action and it is necessary. But I really, really appreciate you putting this out there for all to see. To see that we are not perfect, we make mistakes just like anyone else, but there is no condemnation for it. There is forgiveness and there is peace, beyond what the world can give and there is healing. And for those who think they have defeated you, welll that's just all they have, while you demonstrate true strength. Not turning away from what you've done but taking responsibility for it, not making excuses.

I really don't see how there could be a more powerful witness.


piacere - 5/14/2010 at 03:31 PM

Beautiful post.


DougMacKenzie - 5/15/2010 at 02:33 PM

Wow. Powerful post. And humbling. I guess in the end I really have no credibility at all. I am left to stand on God's alone, and that is as it should be. The suffering that I expeirience when I am convicted by the Holy Spirit for my transgressions turns me towards God for forigiveness and relief. This is also how it should be.

"Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance, character, and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Romans 5:3-5

Thanks for helping me to see this verse in a new light.


piacere - 5/15/2010 at 11:46 PM

He who puts his hands to the plow but looks back, is not fit for service in the kingdom of God.

You didn't mess up, DUG. I did. That outburst was the first one in a long long time for me, years, here or elsewhere. I guarantee, that won't happen again. Here or in the world.

Time to move on. I've apologized, I'm forgiven. I will repent.

The Holy Spirit convicted me on this one.


nmarch88 - 5/16/2010 at 02:50 AM

"My sin, oh, the bliss of this glorious thought
My sin, not in part but the whole
Is nailed to the cross, I bear it no more,
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul,

It is well, it is well, with my soul"


peachheadcpl - 5/16/2010 at 03:46 PM


DougMacKenzie - 5/17/2010 at 01:01 PM

"Perfect love casts out all fear."


nmarch88 - 5/17/2010 at 01:21 PM

"Ask and it will be given to you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you" Matt 7:7


DougMacKenzie - 5/18/2010 at 11:13 AM

"But you , dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life."

Jude 20-21


DougMacKenzie - 5/19/2010 at 10:09 PM

" I sought the Lord, and he answered me;
he delivered me from all my fears.
Those who look on him are radiant;
their faces are never covered with shame."

Ps. 34:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 5/20/2010 at 11:22 AM

"This poor man called, and the Lord heard him;
he saved him out of all of his troubles.
The angel of the Lord encamps around
those who fear him,
and he delivers them."

Ps. 34:6-7


nmarch88 - 5/21/2010 at 12:41 AM

Okay, well, I've gotten used to seeing both Doug and piacere here, piacere, you out there? I don't mean to intrude, I just miss you.

Can I just say, MAN, IT'S HOT already. I really hope we're not in for another June like last. I really feel my age in this heat.

Hope everyone is doing okay.


piacere - 5/21/2010 at 12:17 PM

quote:
Okay, well, I've gotten used to seeing both Doug and piacere here, piacere, you out there? I don't mean to intrude, I just miss you.

Can I just say, MAN, IT'S HOT already. I really hope we're not in for another June like last. I really feel my age in this heat.

Hope everyone is doing okay.




alive and well, by the grace of God, thanks for asking. I read this thread every day, just don't post every day. You're not intruding at all. You're a concerned sister in Christ, an awesome thing.

I feel my age in ANY temperature...


nmarch88 - 5/23/2010 at 01:32 AM

Well, Seth leaves in the morning for China. Will be on a plane for 24 hours. I just pray I have really left this in God's hands because it's just way too big for me to think about. I keep trying to remove myself as "mom" but that's kind of hard to do. But finally at the bottom of it all my prayer is for God's will to be done. That the purpose of this trip will be met. And for the safety of the entire group.


DougMacKenzie - 5/23/2010 at 02:28 PM

"The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him,
and he delivers them.
Taste and see that the Lord is good;
blessed is the man who takes refuge in him.
Fear the Lord, you his saints,
for thsoe who fear him lack nothing.
The lions may grow weak and hungry,
but those who fear the Lord lack no good thing."

Ps. 34:7-10


DougMacKenzie - 5/24/2010 at 11:13 AM

"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a rock? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who aks him?"

Matt. 7:9-11


RickyM - 5/24/2010 at 12:39 PM

Thank God for His mercifulness !!


DougMacKenzie - 5/25/2010 at 11:06 AM

Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, becuase this man, too, is a son of Abraham. For the Son of Man came to seek and save that which was lost."

Luke 19:9-10


nmarch88 - 5/25/2010 at 02:23 PM

For so long we walk in darkness Hoping to find the way But without something or someone to guide us, we stumble blindly day after day

So He lights candles in hope that we'll see glimpses of Him in this mystery
That we'll leave shadows and move toward the flame
As we move closer we'll see His face...

To face with the one who made mountains Who hung the stars in the sky
He is love and loved us so much
That He was willing to die

Die for the man on the corner who sold his soul years ago and now knows of only regret
To trade His life for the woman who doesn't think mercy is something that she'll ever get

Hope to all who are hopeless
Who've never known kindness
He has not forgotten your name
You are loved by the One who
With His own hands has made you
And loves you forever the same

PFR - Face to Face


DougMacKenzie - 5/26/2010 at 11:10 AM

"I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength."

Phillipians 4:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 5/27/2010 at 11:08 AM

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Phillipians 4:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 5/28/2010 at 11:20 AM

"Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices; together they shout for joy.
When the Kord returns to Zion, thye willl see it with their own eyes.
Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem,
for the Lord has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem.
The Lord will lay bare the of his holy arm in the sight of all nations,
and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God."

Is. 52:8-10


nmarch88 - 5/28/2010 at 12:30 PM

I am standing on a mountain this morning and there I proclaim "My God how great Thou art!"
Words have not been created to describe the miracle we have experienced. Mark and Doug, I will be sending pms.


piacere - 5/30/2010 at 01:14 AM

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

1John 1:7


nmarch88 - 5/30/2010 at 01:54 AM

Indeed


DougMacKenzie - 5/30/2010 at 12:22 PM

And if I pass this way again you can rest assured
I'll always do my best by her, on that you have my word
In a world of steel eyed death and men who are trying to keep warm
"Come in", she said,"I'll give 'ya
shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 6/1/2010 at 09:19 PM

"He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrow and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised and we esteemed him not."

Is. 53:3


piacere - 6/1/2010 at 11:46 PM

this past Sunday in church our pastor was talking about worship. as a noun, it ain't much, nor as an adjective.

but as a verb...he went on to say that worship is responding and responding in obedience. Much like Moses and Abraham, when they answered, "Here I am!" or Paul, blinded for a spell after asking, "Who are you, Lord?".

gave me a different and better take on what my walk entails.


DougMacKenzie - 6/2/2010 at 11:44 AM

"Why do you call me 'Lord,Lord,' and not do what I say?"

Luke 6:46


DougMacKenzie - 6/3/2010 at 11:18 AM

The Lord has made proclomation to the ends of the earth:
"Say to the Daughter of Zion, 'See, your savior comes!
See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him."

Isaiah 62:11


piacere - 6/4/2010 at 01:49 AM

I pray for folks in this thread all the time.

Today though, I thought of you, Nancy, on one particular occasion which I hope (know?) you'll appreciate. The last three days (and tomorrow...) I've had my two grandchildren, ages 4 (boy) and 2 (girl). At one point today, after 2 1/2 days of flat out hysteria and madness, they napped. A rarity. I went into the backyard, alone, quiet and restoring what little sanity I had left and thought, "Nancy, wherever you are, I don't know how you do it. May our father in Heaven bless you".


nmarch88 - 6/4/2010 at 03:31 AM

Haha, I'm laughing because, well, you've been busy haven't you. I know exactly how you felt as you walked out the back door. Do you think this is why we have children when we're young? But man, those moments that catch you, a small hand mastering a task, the beam of their joy, children are a such magnificent creation. I know you're enjoying your time with them.

Like everything else we do, it's by the grace of God, and prayers of those who care.

Have fun!


DougMacKenzie - 6/4/2010 at 03:22 PM

One of the most heartbreaking things about my job is dealing with all these kids who don't realize how very valuable and special they are, who don't feel loved and prized above all else, and the effects that has on them. Every chance you get to love on and cherish a child, any child, take it.

Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Matt. 19:14


DougMacKenzie - 6/6/2010 at 03:34 PM

Jesus replied, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Matt. 22:37-40


piacere - 6/7/2010 at 01:44 AM

quote:
Haha, I'm laughing because, well, you've been busy haven't you. I know exactly how you felt as you walked out the back door. Do you think this is why we have children when we're young? But man, those moments that catch you, a small hand mastering a task, the beam of their joy, children are a such magnificent creation. I know you're enjoying your time with them.

Like everything else we do, it's by the grace of God, and prayers of those who care.

Have fun!


yeah, it was great. I'm toast...but it was great. They're the best.

thanks.


DougMacKenzie - 6/9/2010 at 04:47 PM

"THerefroe, my dear rothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain."

1 Corinthians 15:58


piacere - 6/9/2010 at 08:26 PM

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, 'we are unworthy servants, we have only done our duty'.

Luke 17:10


nmarch88 - 6/10/2010 at 02:11 AM

"You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit - fruit that will last." John 15:16

Been out for a few days, got hit hard with a nasty sore throat. I'm sure it has nothing to do with it being 105 degrees with 97% humidity, and silly me, I work outside. Doug, you should be getting some of this same heat.

piacere, hope you're recovering from your adventure. Looking forward to the next.

Everyone take good care.


DougMacKenzie - 6/12/2010 at 10:33 AM

Plenty hot here in the chicken fried nation.

"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 1:17


DougMacKenzie - 6/13/2010 at 11:11 AM

"Teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-controlled, and sound in faith, in love, and endurance."

Titus 2:2


piacere - 6/13/2010 at 03:23 PM

I love the book of Titus. A really condensed teaching. Sound and strong.

But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

Titus 3: 4-7


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2010 at 11:44 AM

"Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good."

Titus 2:3


DougMacKenzie - 6/15/2010 at 12:22 PM

"Then they can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands so that no one will malign the word of God."

Titus 2:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 6/16/2010 at 11:16 AM

"Similarily, teach the young men to be self-controlled. In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness and soundness of speech that cannot be condemed, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us."

Titus 2:6-8


piacere - 6/17/2010 at 12:09 PM

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say 'No' to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age.

Titus 2: 11-12


piacere - 6/19/2010 at 01:28 PM

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Romans 8:1


piacere - 6/20/2010 at 12:07 PM

All four services from our main building and sattelite building are meeting for one service today. The whole congregation meeting in one place. This is going to be great !!

Hope everyone is ok.....


DougMacKenzie - 6/21/2010 at 12:04 PM

I had a great time out in God's creation last week. My son and I sat by the river, in the trees next to a cliff of about 100 feet. There was a bench with a sign that said "Sit and listen to the sounds of nature." So we did, not saying a word. Then we talked about all that we heard and how perfect and eternal God's creation is, and beautiful and peaceful. It was a wonderful moment, and I felt so close to God and my son. Thanks God.

"Be still, and know that I am God."


piacere - 6/21/2010 at 02:20 PM

As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said. But Martha was distracted by all the preparations that had to be made. She came to him and asked, " Lord, don't you care that my sister has left me to do the work by myself? Tell her to help me!" "Martha, Martha," the Lord answered, " you are worried and upset about many things but only one thing is needed. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her."

Luke 10: 38-42


nmarch88 - 6/22/2010 at 02:34 AM

Man, how many times has the Lord said to me, "Nancy, Nancy you are worried and upset about many things but only one thing is needed" Thank God for His grace.

So, Seth has made it back into the USA and will be back at his apartment about 1 or 2 in the morning. Heard from him when they got to Seattle, he sounds t i r e d. We plan to drive up and spend the weekend with him to hear all about it. Thank God for His grace.

Everyone take good care.


nmarch88 - 6/22/2010 at 02:38 AM

Oh, Doug, I missed your post somehow. Great for you and your son. Those moments are priceless and should forever be treasured, they are gifts. And they don't happen nearly enough.


DougMacKenzie - 6/23/2010 at 11:25 AM

"Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are - yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."

Hebres 4:14-16

Hey Nancy.


nmarch88 - 6/23/2010 at 12:01 PM

"But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well" Matt 6:33


piacere - 6/23/2010 at 01:16 PM

a word I've come to really appreciate in the Bible:

"therefore".


DougMacKenzie - 6/24/2010 at 11:58 AM

"The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming - not the realties themselves."

Hebrews 10:1


piacere - 6/25/2010 at 01:58 AM

there were three verses my mentor had me memorize when I first became a Christian. (Funny how you can have something so memorized it's like second nature...it'd be nice if I could do that with the whole Bible...I've put many verses to memory since then but the whole book, wouldn't that be great?!!)

anyway, 1John 1:9..."if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness".

1John, awesome book.


DougMacKenzie - 6/25/2010 at 11:58 AM

"Yet, O Lord, you are our father.
We are the clay, you are the potter;
we are all the work of your hand."

Isaiah 64:8


DougMacKenzie - 6/26/2010 at 08:26 PM

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied."

Matt. 5:6


DougMacKenzie - 6/27/2010 at 04:36 PM

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled, and do not be afraid."

John 14:27


DougMacKenzie - 6/28/2010 at 01:30 PM

It's a tough day today. We just found out that our daughter's soccer coach is pulling out from our club and taking her team to another club. It costs significantly more to play for this club, and we can't afford it. My daughter is ery very good, and loves the game. Her dream is to play professionally. She is at her grandmother's for the week, so we won't tell her until she gets home. This is going to be hard, and it breaks my heart for her. It is also an opportunity to realize that God has a plan for us even if we don't understand it. Any prayers for condolences, acceptance, and peace for my daughrter from you good folks would be greatly appreciated.

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who are called according to his purpose."

Romans 8:28


sonnystang - 6/28/2010 at 01:36 PM

sorry to hear about your daughters team. The youth nowadays need these type of activities to help them.

Prayers to you and your daughter and hopefully a door will open where this one closed.........


DougMacKenzie - 6/28/2010 at 01:37 PM

Thanks sonny.....much appreciated.


nmarch88 - 6/28/2010 at 05:34 PM

Oh man, this will be hard. But opportunities abound here. But, this will be hard. Add my prayers to the list, and be sure to let her know that we all are thinking of her and praying for her.


piacere - 6/28/2010 at 11:06 PM

quote:
It's a tough day today. We just found out that our daughter's soccer coach is pulling out from our club and taking her team to another club. It costs significantly more to play for this club, and we can't afford it. My daughter is ery very good, and loves the game. Her dream is to play professionally. She is at her grandmother's for the week, so we won't tell her until she gets home. This is going to be hard, and it breaks my heart for her. It is also an opportunity to realize that God has a plan for us even if we don't understand it. Any prayers for condolences, acceptance, and peace for my daughrter from you good folks would be greatly appreciated.

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who are called according to his purpose."

Romans 8:28


I hadn't seen this post.

It breaks my heart. Just breaks my heart.

Brother, I will send this situation to a group of people known as "The Prayer Warriors", some real heavy hitters. I myself, in my humble and meager standing, will pray earnestly on this... for you, your daughter and your family...as I always have.


nmarch88 - 6/29/2010 at 02:56 AM

Tell her "Don't be afraid, just believe" Mark 5:36
"Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. Follow Me" Luke 9:58,59

Went to church with Seth this past Sunday, man he goes to a fantastic little church out in the middle of nowhere. Anyway, the meat of the message was 'don't fight the journey'. I think it applies in this situation. I don't know how old she is, but I know you will gently guide her through this. It will still be a punch for her.

More love and prayers for your daughter.


DougMacKenzie - 6/29/2010 at 03:19 PM

Thanks so much for the thoughts and prayers. Connor will be 13 on Saturday. There is a team that wants her to come play for them and is willing to give her a scholarship. Her team is also working to try to get some kind of financial assistance so she can continue with them. Any way it goes it is an opportunity for her to take a step closer to God in trust and faith, an opportunity for our entire family really. We should know something for sure by the start of next week. You guys don't know how much your support means to us. You are the best.


piacere - 6/30/2010 at 02:22 AM

I consider it a blessing and a humbling experience to pray for someone else.

Gives ME the opportunity to once again talk with God.

Hey man, you helped me out big time. You're a straight ahead dude MacKenzie, top shelf.


DougMacKenzie - 6/30/2010 at 10:55 AM

You truly are delusional....


Seriously, thanks again for the prayers. We have been able to work out some financial arrrangements with the club and the help of some of the parents on the team. This help was unsolicited, they just stepped up and offered. God works in our lives through other people, even piacere. Talk about miracles! Anyway, looks like everything is going to work out just fine. it is so nice to have this walk with God that includes such fine brothers and sisters. Helps us to know that whatever happens God is in charge and it will be just fine in the long run. Some runs are longer than others, but they all begin and end in the arms of our Lord and Saviour.


piacere - 6/30/2010 at 12:40 PM

true. (not that I'm delusional, though I am in fact..."different")

The older I get (insert comment here) the more I trust in Him, confide in Him and know with certainty that all of this is in accordance with his plan. Following Christ is such a wonderful gift of freedom. Set apart and loosened from all things that once bound me and held me hostage. He paid the ransom.

Thank you Lord Jesus !!!


DougMacKenzie - 7/1/2010 at 11:32 AM

"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil, cling to what is good."

Romans 12:9


DougMacKenzie - 7/2/2010 at 11:36 AM

"Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourseles."

Romans 12:10


DougMacKenzie - 7/3/2010 at 10:35 AM

"Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality."

Romans 12:12-13


nmarch88 - 7/4/2010 at 01:22 AM

"I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of beingcontent in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through Him who gives mes strength." Phil 4:12, 13

Hope everyone is doing well.


DougMacKenzie - 7/5/2010 at 03:10 AM

I love that verse.

Happy 4th of July everyone.


piacere - 7/5/2010 at 12:44 PM

Nancy

yup, that's a great book. Another one of the verses I had to memorize is in there...

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God"

Phil. 4:6


nmarch88 - 7/5/2010 at 01:32 PM

"while a silent war wages with the fear and the doubt, I try to run faster to find a way out, I'm convinced if I stumble they'll just cast me aside, mock at my weakness and shatter my pride.."

"Perfect love casts out fear"

Outwardly I appear to be strong and in command of my life. Inwardly I struggle much with fear and doubt. I do not doubt my Heavenly Father, I doubt myself, my decisions, my actions, fear screams at me "what if I get it wrong" so that in my fierce battle I courageously make a decision and then it seems it was the wrong one. Have to be reminded often that I rest in the right hand of God the Father Almighty. And that is the secrect to being content in any situation isn't it? To TRUST Him. I find myself in Philippians often.

Everybody have a great day.


piacere - 7/6/2010 at 01:09 PM

Paul was content no matter the circumstances. Of course, that was Paul. I'm not Paul. It's so comforting though to know we have a living Savior who came among us to be like us for a spell, to show us, "Hey, I'm here, stay with me".
I struggle too Nancy with the exact same things. There's no doubt, that between the external forces of this world and the inward battles, without the power and love of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I'd still be a drunk/drug addict.

I just this minute prayed for you, I always do.

My pastor gave a sermon a month or so ago about prayer ( I may have mentioned this before...)and to pray as Jesus taught, not only the Our Father but with the heart and without many words. My pastor said, and I agree, we can pray without saying one word. A groan, a sigh, and God knows...

Be blessed and have a great day yourself...


DougMacKenzie - 7/6/2010 at 03:10 PM

Great posts. I think we also have to remember that Paul didn't start out knowing how to be content; he started out hunting down Christians. Peter was stubborn and didn't get it; he abandonded Jesus and felt crushed and ahsamed for doing so. All the apostles walked with Jesus, ate with him, hung out with him, saw him do miracles, and still didn't get it until after he died and rose again. We are no different than any of these other people. We have to press on, step by step, day by day on this walk. God changes us through his tramsforming spirit. We don't change ourselves through our efforts. We have to stay close to God and abide in that spirit through our walk. It is so nice to be able to come here and find encouragement, to be "sharpened" by others walking this same road. Someday we all get to sit down face to face and talk about it. Sooner or later.


nmarch88 - 7/7/2010 at 01:45 AM

Amen and Amen.


bird72 - 7/7/2010 at 04:48 AM

Over the last few years I have asked God to show himself. I have prayed to Him to show himself. I have begged Him to. I have dared Him to. Challenged Him to. Called Him every foul name I could think to get Him to show Himself in anger, or send a bolt of lightning down which would be an answer. I have cussed Him, and shook my fist at Him above. Guess what? Not a peep. This God of dead children is a no show. If ever anyone deserved at least an explanation,, I f*cking do. This non-intervening God? Why do people pray then? He is the Non-Intervener, after all. I did no sin in my life that two kids should die. I have no karma of that magnitude, so He must be the Non-Intervener. Maybe me writing this challange will get Him to read. Wait, He is All Knowing. I personally think He is the God with a f*cked up sense of humor.

I appreciate the sentiments in this thread, they are wonderful. Maybe I am just past the point of no return. Maybe someday it all just gets real. Yes, I am counseling with a chaplain who deals with the dead and dying daily. I am only the third person he knows of with two dead kids. He has no answer. Except to pray. I'm prayed out.

I am open to suggestions on verse and chapter or psalm in my Bible or send me the hot line number right to that Mute God. He came to people in the Bible who needed Him less, for really some bullsh!t reasons.

Yes, I am pissed at God.

"God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain"

maybe Lennon was God.


nmarch88 - 7/7/2010 at 12:43 PM

Bird - I'm responding because I want to acknowledge you. I don't have all the answers, none of us do. I hear your pain and I really am sorry. The first thing I think of is Job. "Have you considered my servant Job?" . I will get back to you very, very soon. Doug and Mark will be around later. Please know that we are here for you and really want to help. Until I am able to get back to you, please know that I am praying for you.

Nancy


piacere - 7/7/2010 at 01:23 PM

Bird...I read your post and prayed for you.
I can't imagine losing two children. My heart goes out to you, as I'm sure God's does, He just will show you in His time.
A verse that comes to mind is Isaiah 57:1..."The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart, devout men are taken away and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace..."
I volunteered (past tense) at Hasbro Children's Hospital, where some patients have terminal cancer. After my shift, just about every night, I'd walk to my car and this big, tough, hulking man would cry like a baby at the thought of 8,10,12 year old children dying from sickness. I too questioned God but as my faith has grown, I realize, and take great comfort in knowing, that these little ones are in Heaven, "for the Kingdom of God is such as these".
There's a book, "The Shack", that deals exclusively and directly with what you're experiencing. I must give you strong warning though, it may be difficult for you to read but for me, it was something that changed my spiritual walk for the better. It was a life-changing read.
God's ways are not our ways. His timing is not our timing. His wants are not our wants. His wisdom and being transcends anything we, His creation, can possibly fathom.
It's good that you are angry with Him, you acknowledge His existence. I'm positive He understands your anger and also positive that one day, in His time, He will show you, via a verse, a person in your life or in a subtle nudge toward trusting Him, that He has things in control.
I know these are mere words on your monitor but take comfort my friend in the fact that there are those of us here that pray for you and "the prayers of a righteous man are powerful and effective".
God bless...


DougMacKenzie - 7/7/2010 at 03:12 PM

bird, I've followed what you have posted about this over the years. I can't begin to imagine the loss and pain you experience and carry with you every day. I don't think there can ever be any words to relieve that pain. I know for myself that when I hung on to my pain and wanted God to fix it I floundered and suffered for twenty years. When I finally offered it up to God for him to do with as he saw fit he didn't take it away, he transformed it into something of use and benefit to others, and through that I was healed. Through that experience I learned about faith and trust in God as a loving, merciful, and just God who turns all our sorrow into joy. I've held you in my thoughts and prayers over the years, and will do so more often. I agree with Mark; "The Shack" had a big impact on my walk with God. Anything I can do, anytime you need somebody to talk to, let me know. You can pm me for particulars. Here's my favorite verse:

"The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside the quiet waters,
he resotres my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley
of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil,
for you are with me, your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You annoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the Lord
forever."

Ps. 23



nmarch88 - 7/7/2010 at 03:41 PM


nmarch88 - 7/7/2010 at 04:07 PM

Sorry about the blank, Bird check your pm's


bird72 - 7/8/2010 at 04:12 AM

Thank you for the kind responses and humouring my rant. I do believe in God, we just have an uneasy truce at the moment

It may be more than coincidental you two mention "The Shack"

Two weeks ago or so, I went out on a job appointment for this lady who wanted to convert overhead utilities to buried, and I had do a site survey. She mentioned how her late husband died in the orchard in front of the property, his own truck ran him over while he was tree working, parking brake deal. To extend a sense of "I know kind of what you went through" I told how I lost two sons. Talked for a couple of minutes on tragedy and such, then I went on my business of looking at the new job work needed...

She comes out of the house a few minutes later and said how I had to read this book, and hands it to me. Also said it would be hard to read, but that I need to. She said how she met the author here in Montana. Didn't let on really what the book is about, but that it dealt with loss and more.

I asked my Chaplain Bob friend if he had read it a few days later. He hesitated for some reason after I told him the story above, he hesitated, then said "Yes, you should read it"

I need to ask him why he hesitated....

But in the course of two weeks, I was given the book, and now told by four people that I need to read it.

Maybe this is how God works, The God of Subtle. I like theatrics and lightning bolts, but maybe that is just too Hollywood

Chaplain Bob also told me I could be a "messenger" who talks to people, which I found the most ludicrous thing I ever heard, considering what a tangle my thoughts are.

All I really want is to be able to function without the "triggers" slamming me to the ground every time. The sound of skateboard wheels on a sidewalk, or a little boy with a Superman shirt on, or a kid with the same build, or the same hair, so many triggers, and it drives you a bit bonkers after a while. The sadness is maybe part of the deal, but the incapacitating stuff is too much.

Maybe the statememt that God has been there is true. Maybe without Him I would have killed somebody by now. or been a raging drunk 24/7, or started pondering the appeal of a bullet, and maybe He has kept me somewhat safe and I am so clueless to not even see it.

I ramble, but Thank You.


DougMacKenzie - 7/8/2010 at 10:56 AM

Sounds to me like God might be nudging you to take some action. Maybe you reached out into this thread because the time is right for you now. God took all my baggage and turned it into a "message" about him that I get to deliver to others in need. He puts them right into the middle of my life constantly. Maybe he has a job like that for you to do, I don't know. Read the book.


nmarch88 - 7/9/2010 at 12:21 AM

I think you should read the book.


DougMacKenzie - 7/9/2010 at 12:01 PM

"But I trust in you, O Lord;
I say, "You are my God."
My times are in your hands;
deliver me from my enemies
and from those who persue me.

Ps. 31:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 7/10/2010 at 12:46 PM

"Enter his gates with thanksgiving
and his courts with praise;
give thanks to him
and praise his name.
For the Lord is good
and his love endures forever,
his faithfullness continues
through all generations."

Ps. 100:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 7/11/2010 at 06:13 PM

"Shout for joy to the Lord, all the earth;
Worship the Lord with gladness;
come before him with joyful songs.
Know that the Lord is God.
It is he who made us, and we are his;
we are his people, the sheep of his pastures."

Ps. 100:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 7/12/2010 at 11:03 AM

"Consider what God has done:
Who can straighten what he has made crooked?
When times are good, be happy;
when times are bad, consider:
God has made one as well as the other."

Ecclesiastes 7:13


DougMacKenzie - 7/13/2010 at 11:26 AM

"Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

Romans 12:21


DougMacKenzie - 7/14/2010 at 10:18 AM

"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil, cling to what is good."

Romans 12:9


DougMacKenzie - 7/15/2010 at 11:18 AM

"Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves."

Romans 12:10


DougMacKenzie - 7/16/2010 at 09:23 PM

"Rejoice with those who rejoice, mounr with those who mourn."

Romans12:15


spacemonkey - 7/16/2010 at 10:33 PM

This Sunday I sang "Farther Along" for the music portion of our Church Service
The First verse is:

Tempted and tried we’re oft’ made to wonder
Why it should be thus all the day long;
While there are others living about us,
Never molested, though in the wrong.

Completely independent of my choice of Music the Preacher choose Psalm 82 for the Psalter

which contains.

"How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked?"

Freaky Huh?





got this picture from my Mom.



[Edited on 7/20/2010 by spacemonkey]


DougMacKenzie - 7/16/2010 at 11:50 PM

The longer I live the less I believe in coincidences.


DougMacKenzie - 7/18/2010 at 01:41 PM

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone."

Romans 12:18


DougMacKenzie - 7/19/2010 at 01:27 PM

"Therefore, I urge you brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your act of spiritual worship."

Romans 12:1


DougMacKenzie - 7/20/2010 at 10:56 AM

"Do not repay anyone evil for evil."

Romans 12:17


spacemonkey - 7/20/2010 at 08:05 PM

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son
cleanseth us from all sin.
-- 1 John 1:7


DougMacKenzie - 7/21/2010 at 11:35 AM

"In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it."

John 1:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 7/21/2010 at 04:24 PM

quote:
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"Turn the other cheek," doesn't apply in modern American politics. Do it and your opponent will knock you the phuck out, kick you till you bleed, light you on fire and then pi$$ on your ashes.
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Thanks you God, for holding us in your loving grace and giving us something more to be a part of.

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth."


TopDroog - 7/21/2010 at 04:53 PM

How wonderfully diverse life can be:


piacere - 7/22/2010 at 12:21 PM

Google "Sir Lionel Luckhoo". Second or third link down on the page, read his speech on Christianity/Islam.

He started a church in Dallas, Doug. Ever hear of him? Amazing dude.


DougMacKenzie - 7/22/2010 at 12:38 PM

Never heard of him, but then I don't get out much these days.

"You have heard that it was said, "Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy." But I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good,and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Matt. 5:43-48


DougMacKenzie - 7/23/2010 at 12:51 PM

"Be careful not to do your acts of righteousness before men, to be seem by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven."

Matt. 6:1


DougMacKenzie - 7/24/2010 at 10:47 AM

"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synogogues on the streets, to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matt. 6:2-4


DougMacKenzie - 7/25/2010 at 11:13 PM

"But when you pary, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Fatehr who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matt. 6:6


nmarch88 - 7/26/2010 at 12:00 PM

"Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered Him stricken by God, smitten by Him and afflicted.
But He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him and by His wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all." Isaiah 53:4-6

"God please forgive me for this sinners heart, though You've shown me Your mercy, it's the same old story keeping us apart..."


DougMacKenzie - 7/26/2010 at 12:01 PM

"And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like the pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

Matt. 6:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 7/27/2010 at 12:04 PM

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them."

Matt. 7:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2010 at 11:38 AM

"When the pharisees saw this they asked his disciples, " why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?"
On hearing this, Jesus said, " It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Matt. 9:11-13


DougMacKenzie - 7/29/2010 at 11:52 AM

"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall from the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows."

Matt. 10:29-31


DougMacKenzie - 7/30/2010 at 04:44 PM

I hate to see what has happened to this site. I've met so many good people through this place, learned so mauch about a variety of topics from music to poliitics, and got to keep up with my favorite band of all times. Its liike watching you rold neighborhood get trashed and the neighbors who made it such a good place in the first place all moving out and leaving. I guess this particular road can't go on forever. Thank you Lord, for yours that does.


DougMacKenzie - 7/31/2010 at 01:03 PM

"What goes into a man's mouth does not make him unclean, but what comes out of his mouth is what makes him unclean."

Matt. 15:11


DougMacKenzie - 8/1/2010 at 12:20 PM

"The theif comes only to kill ,rob, and destroy. I come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10


DougMacKenzie - 8/2/2010 at 12:50 PM

"Because of this increase in wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who endures to the end will be saved."

Matt. 24:12-13


nmarch88 - 8/3/2010 at 02:32 AM

"He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."

"When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise"

"This is the verdict; Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil."

"As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God"

"Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another...."


greggswoman - 8/3/2010 at 02:42 AM

quote:
"Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another...."



This one seems very appropriate. Thank you Nancy.


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2010 at 03:26 AM

I agree. Thanks Nancy. Nice to see you ladies here.


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2010 at 10:58 AM

"Watch and pray that you will not fall into temptation. THe spirit is willing, but th body is weak."

Matt. 26:41


DougMacKenzie - 8/4/2010 at 12:07 PM

"And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Matt. 28.20


nmarch88 - 8/5/2010 at 01:16 AM

I come in peace. Just got a look back at my last post. A little dark? I got angry at all the mess going on around here and spoke out of that anger. I'm sorry. I think I really did have a point, but was just too wound up to explain. I think I meant that God loves the troublemakers too. Anyway, let's pick up where we left off. Doug....... I believe you left off in Matthew.....

Everyone take good care.


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2010 at 11:57 AM

No apologies needed Nancy, and I agree with your thoughts.

"There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men."

1 Corinthians 12:4-6


DougMacKenzie - 8/6/2010 at 11:30 AM

"Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it."

1 Corinthians 12:27


nmarch88 - 8/7/2010 at 03:42 PM

Need some prayers guys. A friend of mine lost her 4 year old son in a drowning accident the other evening. Very difficult situation. I saw her and her family last night and though they are devastated they asked for prayer for strength to endure. I know the power of the prayers of people here, please share with my friend. Thank you all so much.


nmarch88 - 8/7/2010 at 03:47 PM

Just wanted to add, parents are Rita and Steve, Kyle is their son, his nickname is "Awesome Kyle".


DougMacKenzie - 8/7/2010 at 07:30 PM

That's tragic Nancy. We've added them to our thoughts and prayers.


DougMacKenzie - 8/8/2010 at 05:01 PM

"But Christ has indeed benn raised from the dead. the first fruits lf those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead also comes through a man. For as in Adam all die, in Christ all will be made alive."

1 Corinthians 15:20-22


DougMacKenzie - 8/9/2010 at 12:26 PM

"Do not be mislead: Bad company corrupts good character."

1 Corinthians 15:33


nmarch88 - 8/9/2010 at 12:38 PM

Doug, with school starting, it reminded me of Joseph. I've been meaning to ask about him, hope he and his family are holding strong. I keep them in my thoughts and prayers.

Kaleb's first day of first grade was good. I was so excited I could hardly contain myself. We have come miles in our efforts with Kaleb, things are much, much better. Still have some issues, but not nearly like before. I am so thankful. Still kind of sitting on the edge of my seat, one day does not a school year make. Right now we're just enjoying the good and will deal with the bad if it comes.

Everyone take care and try to stay cool!


DougMacKenzie - 8/10/2010 at 11:48 AM

I haven't seen Joseph this summer, but hope to be his teacher again as soon as school starts. His doctros were trying to get him to use a wheelchair at the end of school last year because his bones are basically disintegrating, but he didn't want any part of it. I guess once he goes into one it will be very likely that he doesn't get out. Thanks so much for asking after him.
Sounds like Kaleb might be turning a corner. Keeping you guys close to our hearts.


DougMacKenzie - 8/11/2010 at 11:50 AM

"In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will roll them up like a robe,
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same, and your years will never end."

Ps. 102:25-27


nmarch88 - 8/11/2010 at 12:26 PM

it is a gift to be able to rely on a contstant in this broken, ever changing world we live in, there is someone and something that will never change.

Okay, anyone heard from piacere lately? I miss him.


DougMacKenzie - 8/11/2010 at 03:20 PM

I talk to him pretty often. Several weeks ago he said he had to take a break from here. He's goping through kind of a rough patch but is hanging in there, said he might come back here soon. Check your pms.


nmarch88 - 8/11/2010 at 11:54 PM

Doug, thanks so much!


bigCTfan - 8/12/2010 at 12:14 AM

I miss piacere too! He's from Lil' Rhody & we we need all of them we can get around here...

Piacere's last post was about "Sir Lionel Luckhoo". Here is a quote from one of Sir Lionel's writings:


The bones of Muhammad are in Medina, the bones of Confucious are in Shantung, the cremated bones of Buddha are in Nepal. Thousands pay pilgrimages to worship at their tombs which contain their bones. But in Jerusalem there is a cave cut into the rock. This is the tomb of Jesus. IT IS EMPTY! YES, EMPTY! BECAUSE HE IS RISEN! He died, physically and historically. He arose from the dead, and now sits at the right hand of God.





DougMacKenzie - 8/12/2010 at 11:44 AM

Thanks CT.

"Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners - of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and recieve eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 1:15-17


DougMacKenzie - 8/13/2010 at 12:27 PM

"In my anguish I cried to the Lord and he answered by setting me free."

Ps. 118:5


DougMacKenzie - 8/14/2010 at 03:47 PM

Times still seem so hard for so many, and in many different ways. I know through my own experience I have found these times can represent an oipportunity to grow closer to God, to rely on him more, trust him more, increase our faith and knowledge of his goodness. Its difficult to be torn between life on this earth and survival of the fittest and "Love God with all yuour heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength. And love your neighbor as yourself. In this are contained all the law and the prophets." That is what the Bible essentially represents for me; I get example after of example, over thousands of years, of people facing the same battles as I do and God's revelation of his loving goodness to those who stick it out. We have to help each other keep the faith.

"Consider it pure joy, my brothers, when you face tirals of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything."

James 1:2-4


DougMacKenzie - 8/15/2010 at 11:13 AM

"Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. Fpr what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), the you are illigitimate children and not true sons. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our Spirits and live! Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but Gopd disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produsces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it."

Hebrews 12:7-11


DougMacKenzie - 8/16/2010 at 11:19 AM

"Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and deciet, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind."

1 Peter 2:1


DougMacKenzie - 8/17/2010 at 11:35 AM

"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins."

1 Peter 4:8


DougMacKenzie - 8/18/2010 at 12:15 PM

"Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you."

1 Peter 5:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 8/19/2010 at 12:26 PM

"His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the diven nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires."

2 Peter 1:3-4


piacere - 8/19/2010 at 12:34 PM

quote:
"His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the diven nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires."

2 Peter 1:3-4


I've been in I and II Peter for about three weeks now. Been bailing me out of that rough patch. Above water now and sailing along by the grace of God.


DougMacKenzie - 8/19/2010 at 02:21 PM

Glad to hear it brother. Missed you around here.


nmarch88 - 8/20/2010 at 12:01 AM

PIACERE!!!!!!!! I have so been missing you. I'm really glad your sails are full.


DougMacKenzie - 8/20/2010 at 11:50 AM

"For this reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love."

2 Peter 1:5-7


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2010 at 12:51 AM

On a little hilltop village they gambled for my clothes
I asked her for salvation and she give me a lethal dose
I offered up my innoence and got repaid with scorn
"Come in," she said, "I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."


piacere - 8/23/2010 at 01:20 PM

Hi Nancy.

I haven't missed you at all.

I can't, you're in my prayers...


nmarch88 - 8/23/2010 at 05:04 PM

(((((((Mark))))))


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2010 at 12:57 PM

Hang in there Nancy. Patience and faith always prevail. Always. Haven't had a chance to answer your e-mail but I will!


DougMacKenzie - 8/25/2010 at 05:08 PM

Thanks for the people who come into our lives nad jolt us a little bit, shake us out of our comfort zones, and help us realize some of the places where we put God second to something else in our lives. When I am not at peace it is bacause I am doing something wrong, not anybody else.


DougMacKenzie - 8/26/2010 at 10:47 AM

"For you created my innermost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well."

Ps. 139:13-14


nmarch88 - 8/26/2010 at 12:47 PM

Oh, I really like that Psalm. I've used it often lately. Yesterday I was thinking of all the things going on, my mother, my grandson, work, everyday life, and how I'm doing my very best by everyone and yet at every turn it seems I'm met with resistance, and then my next thought was, "well, I guess this is how You must feel.." I believe God is always trying to help us, show us, to just take us in His arms and love us, and the ways we resist Him.

"I come, just as I am without one plea, but that thy blood was shed for me..."


DougMacKenzie - 8/27/2010 at 12:39 PM

" Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting."

Ps. 139:23-24


DougMacKenzie - 8/28/2010 at 12:10 PM

"He upholds the cause of the opressed
and gives food to the hungry.
The Lord sets prisoners free,
the Lord gives sight to the blind,
the Lord lifts up those who are bowed down,
the Lord loves the righteous."

Ps. 146:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 8/29/2010 at 10:37 AM

"The Lord delights in those who fear him,
who put their hope in his unfailing love."

Ps. 147:11


DougMacKenzie - 8/30/2010 at 11:13 AM

"Let everything that has breath praise the Lord."

Ps. 150:6


piacere - 8/30/2010 at 12:56 PM

Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will lift you up.

James 4:10


DougMacKenzie - 8/31/2010 at 10:47 AM

"I will sing to the Lord all my life,
I will sing praise to my God
as long as I live."

Ps. 104:33


piacere - 8/31/2010 at 12:00 PM

Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

James 1:12


piacere - 9/1/2010 at 11:23 AM

And now, dear children, continue in him. so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.

I John 2:28


piacere - 9/2/2010 at 10:31 AM

May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus

Romans 15:5


DougMacKenzie - 9/2/2010 at 12:38 PM

Great verse for me today. We started a men's group at church last night, and as usual I find myself irritated by so many of the life long "churched", especially when they start talking about the "unchurched" like they are some kind of characters from a scary movie. When we focus on our differences we are seperated by the deception that our differences are some how more important than the things we have in common, like the love our Lord Jesus. Thanks for reminding me.


piacere - 9/2/2010 at 09:00 PM

if anyone has a minute...

there's an elderly woman I know, I go to her house just about every morning. She's "unchurched". Wakes up every morning listening to Chuck Swindoll then Charles Stanley. She used to attend church but now doesn't, had enough of the women's get together's, church socials, etc., and felt that the focal point, the center of the universe, Christ, was put in the back seat. Then, she does her devotionals, reads/studies her bible, prays. We talk about all things Christian, THEN on to worldly matters, which usually involve me going to the market for her or getting her prescriptions, taking her to the doctor's, etc.
As devout a follower of Christ as anyone I've ever met and she's a blessing in my life, moreso than anyone I ever met at church.

It's in the heart, not in a building.


nmarch88 - 9/3/2010 at 12:35 AM

Man, I'm really glad this came up. One of my deep secrets is, I don't belong to a church. Don't go to church on a regular basis. Haven't since I left youth ministry. At the time, I was so sorry at what we have done to church. The institution seems to have replaced the people. Reminds me very much of "you have traded the commands of God for the traditions of men..." Leadership? In my experience, is pretend at best. This has become church for me. I've been wondering how, if ever, I was going to share this. There now it's out. I agree, it's in the heart not a building. Or a show on Sunday morning (multiple interpretations here).


DougMacKenzie - 9/3/2010 at 11:03 AM

"Church" seems like it was intended to be a gathering of people sharing their struggles and experience of God, singing songs of praise and worship together and fellowshiupping. Somehow it has become an institution that almost mimicks these things and is held together by dogma and creed rather than relationships. And others see this and the hypocrisy that goes with it and associate it with God. We have to try and keep our hearts contrite and humble, which should be easy when we walk next to Jesus. Someone told me once that I might be the only reflection of God a person ever sees in their lives. I have a responsiblility to reflect him as clearly as possible.


nmarch88 - 9/3/2010 at 11:41 AM

In the book of Acts it is described as the fellowship of believers. Everyone bringing what they have to support each other. Physically, emotionally, spiritually. To praise and worship and to serve. "The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve.." The thing is the keys to the Kingdom were left in human hands. The leadership of the institution makes me think of the Pharisees, insert Matthew 22:13-36 here. You're right Doug, we have the responsiblity to reflect God and His love for his people, to not think more of ourselves than we ought, to put others interests above our own. Being the youth minister of course put me on the ad min board, where I saw how prevalent the god of appearance and materialism is. Real ministry to real needy, whether physical or spiritual, does indeed take a backseat.


piacere - 9/3/2010 at 11:45 AM

"Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me."

Matthew 11:6


piacere - 9/5/2010 at 10:55 AM

...to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.

Titus 3:2


piacere - 9/6/2010 at 01:23 PM

And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God, being strengthened with all power according to his glorious might so that you may have great endurance and patience, and joyfully giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light. For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 1: 10-14


DougMacKenzie - 9/7/2010 at 11:11 AM

God can give us all his love and grace and ask for nothing in return because he needs nothing from us; he is already full. We can only exhibit this kind of sacrificial love if we accept the fullness of God's grace completely, requiring nothing from others when we give to them. So often we want something back, even if it is just a thank you. That is not "agape" love.

"Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his brother."

John 15:13


DougMacKenzie - 9/8/2010 at 11:16 AM

"No eye has seen,
no ear has heard
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared
for those who love him."

Isaiah 64:4


piacere - 9/8/2010 at 11:36 AM

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

Matthew 6:33


nmarch88 - 9/9/2010 at 02:52 AM

"I am the vine, you are the branches; apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2010 at 11:16 AM

Hey Nancy, was just thinking about you this morning.

"The thief comes only to kill and rob and destroy. I come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:10

I love that verse.


Carol - 9/9/2010 at 04:03 PM

it seems to me there has been a very positve turn around in the Forum and the ABB website overall....Praise God!

this is a wonderful thread, may it bless all who partake..

"Music is well said to be the speech of
Angels" -Thomas Carlyle


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2010 at 05:03 PM

Glad to see you here Carol. I agree, the place seems more lie it's old self.


DougMacKenzie - 9/10/2010 at 10:46 AM

"Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God."

Ephesians 5:1-2


piacere - 9/10/2010 at 11:01 AM

quote:
it seems to me there has been a very positve turn around in the Forum and the ABB website overall....Praise God!

this is a wonderful thread, may it bless all who partake..

"Music is well said to be the speech of
Angels" -Thomas Carlyle


Hi. and welcome, good to see ya...


nmarch88 - 9/10/2010 at 12:17 PM

This is the day the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it.

Hi, Carol and welcome. This is a most wonderful place. Doug and Mark are just the best. Lots of love and support here.

Hope everyone has a good Friday.


nmarch88 - 9/11/2010 at 12:51 PM

Pretty somber day today. Remembering those who lost loved ones in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington. And praying for our country.


piacere - 9/11/2010 at 01:57 PM

This is love: not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

I John 4:10


piacere - 9/12/2010 at 01:20 PM

You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3 : 26-29


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2010 at 11:05 AM

"Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ."

Ephesians 4:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 9/14/2010 at 10:58 AM

My wife's grandmother (kid's great-grandmother) died yesterday morning. We were all very close to her. She was 95. It was hard telling the kids, and they were very upset. It gave us another chance to talk about life and God's promises to us, about how we should be good stewrds of this precious gift, and how God wants us to live each day to it's fullest in Christ. Even though it was painful for all of us, I wouldn't trade the four of us huddled together on the couch and sharing our grief, as well as our hope, with one another for anything. Thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this woman's life and to share it all with you God.

Jeannette W. Smith
1905-2010


nmarch88 - 9/14/2010 at 11:23 AM

So sorry Doug, will keep your family close in prayer.


piacere - 9/14/2010 at 01:15 PM

"The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit."

Psalm 34:18


DougMacKenzie - 9/15/2010 at 11:15 AM

"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power."

Ephesians 6:10


DougMacKenzie - 9/16/2010 at 11:01 AM

Just wanted to give a Joseph update. I will be working with him again this year, and I saw him yesterday. He looked good, was very upbeat and in good spirits. He is attending school three days a week right now and is very excited about that. We know he will wear down at some point, but right now he's good. Thanks to all for the prayers offered up for this kid.

Nanny's funeral is tomorrow. Promises to be an extremely emotional day. Prayers for comfort would be much appreciated.


nmarch88 - 9/16/2010 at 12:05 PM

Joseph remains in my prayers, glad to hear he's doing pretty good now. Really glad for him that he can get out some.

Your family will be covered in prayers of comfort tomorrow. As well as today.


piacere - 9/16/2010 at 01:12 PM

will do, Doug


DougMacKenzie - 9/17/2010 at 03:53 PM

Nanny's funeral is today. This is going to be pretty emotional. THe woman took me into her family and treated me like I was her own grandkid, even when I was still all screwed up. She always treated my kids special. I'll miss her.


KWidgeon - 9/17/2010 at 04:00 PM

Doug - sending you and your family love, comfort and prayers.


piacere - 9/18/2010 at 03:04 AM

Doug, thanks so much for everything through the years.

God bless brother, you truly are a servant of Christ.


piacere - 9/18/2010 at 02:10 PM

But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 9/18/2010 at 05:56 PM

Thanks to everyone for the thoughts and prayers. I can't tell you how much you folks have impacted my life for the good, even though we've never met face to face. Even Otie.


KWidgeon - 9/18/2010 at 06:02 PM

More love coming at you, Doug.


piacere - 9/18/2010 at 06:16 PM

quote:
Thanks to everyone for the thoughts and prayers. I can't tell you how much you folks have impacted my life for the good, even though we've never met face to face. Even Otie.



right back at ya.

10 fold.


nmarch88 - 9/18/2010 at 06:31 PM

(((((Doug and family)))))


DougMacKenzie - 9/19/2010 at 10:11 AM

"Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised."

Proverbs 31:30


piacere - 9/19/2010 at 12:37 PM

Of them the proverbs are true: "As a dog returns to its vomit so a fool repeats his folly" and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud".

2Peter 2:22


piacere - 9/19/2010 at 11:36 PM

spent some time last night with a good friend of mine who has been sort of contemplating becoming a Christian.

Pray I have the words and the Holy Spirit moves him.


nmarch88 - 9/20/2010 at 12:46 AM

Done and will continue.


piacere - 9/20/2010 at 10:51 PM

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom"

Luke 12:32


nmarch88 - 9/21/2010 at 12:19 PM

"Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see fac to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known." 1Cor 13:12

Everybody have a good day.


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2010 at 11:24 AM

I love that chapter Nancy, especially that verse. I'm constantly so surprised by how far I have to go in my walk toward Jesus, how selfish and self centered I am, how often I demand my own way instead of looking for what I can do for others, instead of acting out of Christ's love. Thank goodness God's loving mercy has no bounds.


piacere - 9/22/2010 at 11:53 AM

Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires"?
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent".

John 6:28-29


nmarch88 - 9/22/2010 at 12:31 PM

Just gotta share this. Yesterday was Kaleb's 6th birthday. Last night we had a very small little party for him. He was stunned, he was so surprised. It was such a positve thing, I can't say how important this was. It turned into a gift for all of us. Just feeling really thankful this morning.


DougMacKenzie - 9/23/2010 at 09:25 AM

"For we know that all things work for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose."


piacere - 9/23/2010 at 04:04 PM

quote:
Just gotta share this. Yesterday was Kaleb's 6th birthday. Last night we had a very small little party for him. He was stunned, he was so surprised. It was such a positve thing, I can't say how important this was. It turned into a gift for all of us. Just feeling really thankful this morning.


what a comforting and peaceful thing it is to know that our hope and joy will never cease or diminish because Jesus' promise of hope and joy is the only constant, and that by confiding in him and abiding by his love and kindness, together we share in his glory.

it's so awesome.


DougMacKenzie - 9/24/2010 at 07:48 PM

'Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood
Where blackness was a virtue, and the road was full of mud
I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form
"Come in", she said, "I'll give 'ya
shelter from the storm."


piacere - 9/25/2010 at 10:40 AM

Jesus said to them, "Watch out that no one deceives you".

Mark 13:5


piacere - 9/25/2010 at 12:51 PM

Remember this: through the hills and valleys of happiness and sadness,which are results of the circumstances around us, flows the one constant based on faith, hope and love; the joy of knowing Jesus Christ.


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2010 at 01:57 PM

The above post reminded me I needed to come in here and testify about my men's group. Turns out it is a blessing to be involved after all, and when I am able to put my judgmental attitude aside and open myself up to what God has for me there I become truly blessed by being a part of it. We are all parts of the same body in Christ; different parts, same body.


nmarch88 - 9/26/2010 at 11:04 PM

"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have entertained angels without knowing it." Heb 13:2


nmarch88 - 9/27/2010 at 11:46 AM

"For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self discipline." 2 Timothy 1:7


DougMacKenzie - 9/28/2010 at 11:23 AM

"Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and week knees."

Hebrews 12:12


piacere - 9/28/2010 at 08:20 PM

Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

Colossians 3:12


DougMacKenzie - 9/29/2010 at 09:23 AM

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing."

1 Coritnians 13:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 9/30/2010 at 09:59 AM

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

1 Corinthians 13:4-7


RickyM - 9/30/2010 at 10:53 AM

quote:
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

1 Corinthians 13:4-7



Can you even imagine how different this world would be if we all even tried to follow this ? Great quote.


piacere - 9/30/2010 at 11:38 AM

Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord does not count against him and in whose spirit is no deceit.

Psalm 32: 1-2


DougMacKenzie - 10/1/2010 at 09:37 AM

"Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."

1 Corinthians 13:8-13


nmarch88 - 10/1/2010 at 10:58 AM

Amen


DougMacKenzie - 10/4/2010 at 11:33 AM

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."

Matt. 5:13-16


piacere - 10/5/2010 at 02:29 PM

But Jesus immediately said to them: "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid."

Matthew 14:27


DougMacKenzie - 10/6/2010 at 11:23 AM

"You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Romans 5:6-8


DougMacKenzie - 10/7/2010 at 09:44 AM

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men."

Matt. 5:13


DougMacKenzie - 10/8/2010 at 12:40 PM

"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. All the nations on earth will be sad. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky. He will come with power and great glory. He will send his angels with a loud trumpet call. They will gather his chosen people from all four directions. They will bring them from one end of the heavens to the other."

Matt24:30-31


bird72 - 10/10/2010 at 01:57 AM

I just finished William P Young's "The Shack". I literaly read it in one day, today. It was intense, and hit home many times. I really like his concepts on God. Not the pyramid heirchy, but the circular center geometry of it. The thoughts on rules and regulations being purely humanly self serving. And much more. It extends the non-intervening God premise, which I also believe in. It to me, actually takes away all logical premise in prayer, to be honest. Because most folks prayers are begging of God to intervene. God does not heal the crippled, I'm sorry. Nor stop the children murdered. I have and do alternate between the theory that in the final moments of a tragic and violent (be it accident or human violence) death, God is there with a warm blanket of protection during the final moments, but the other view I flip to is purely non God, that a physiological effect takes place, shock or whatever, that takes one from the pain, but that can be false also, as there are many accounts of people dying in horrific pain, begging for someone to end it quicker, even if it their own killer. This is touched on in the book, Macks concerns to God of what his daughter felt in the truck, on the way to her death, or when it was happening. This haunts me horribly in my two cases personally. Did Dale experience horrific terror underwater, and pain when he took in that last breath of water? I pray not. What did Derek think in that split instant when the truck was rolling and he started to be ejected? It is the fuel of insanity if you let it be. Sometimes it is.

I need to reflect on this book. I am jealous God wrote him an invitation. I am jealous he had a Shack. I have shook my fist at the sky, I have cussed God, I have dared Him to appear, challenged Him, mocked Him, did everything I could to make Him appear, so I too could hear answers. Let alone have home baked pastries and dinners and sit on the dock with Jesus looking at the stars. He never has come. I like to believe He is and has been there, or I would have killed someone by now or be totally bonkers, not just half.

There is no Shack, but it was a fantastic tool to share a wonderful insight into one mans take on what God really is or should be. Just being honest. I am glad I read it, but..... most of us just live with it, and "The Great Sadness" was just spot on. My folks lost children, we were nine and seven remain. My mom carried The Great Sadness with her, and she did it with dignity, and an ability to find joy in life in spite of. That is the task, and I now see how complex it must have been for her. My dad just never dealt with it. God Bless them both, they are with Bob and Karen now, maybe looking through the waterfall at me like in the book, I sometimes feel they are, and my boys too.


piacere - 10/10/2010 at 12:06 PM

the "food" served by God in that book was His Word.

It was good and tasty and plentiful and so aromatic that Mac couldn't even identify it at certain times. It was a "mystery " food, but he ate it and it was great.




nmarch88 - 10/10/2010 at 03:05 PM

For me, one of the most important concepts was the "shattering of preconcieved notions" about God, who He is, what He does and how He does it and even why. I have not lost children to death, but.....there was a time when I thrashed and wailed at God for my grandchildren. The only answer for me was, they are not mine, they are His. Do I really believe I can love them better than He can? I cried, but how could You leave them in such frightening darkness? They were never alone. What they went through was only a tiny part of a much larger purpose. His, not mine. The event, was not done to me and if I could only trust and believe His promises and hear His words, I would eventually understand. "Now we see but a poor reflection..." Jesus promised me that if I believed in Him, He would save my whole house, He didn't say it wouldn't hurt. He didn't promise the work wouldn't be dirty or messy. But if I can take my eyes off myself and fix my eyes on Jesus, I can get through. When I read the book, I too was jealous. I want personification too. But I find that God speaks audibly through His people. And embraces us physically the same way. I don't think the sorrow goes away. But it becomes something else. Like others have said, it's always there, it's part of what makes us who and what we are. But only part.


piacere - 10/10/2010 at 10:59 PM

that, my dear friend Nancy, is spot on.


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2010 at 10:57 AM

Wow. These posts just broke me. All I know about God is that he takes my pain and sorrow and turns into something of use and benfit to other people. He takes my anger and loss and turns it into compassion. He crushes my arrogance and pride into the foundations of humility. He takes my understanding and dashes it on the rocks of life, replacing it with hope and faith. He promises to wipe my tears away and replace them with shouts of joy and thanksgiving. This tiny little speck of time we call life doesn't even register on the scales of eternity, yet I want to base my views of God on this limited speck. We can't experience great pain without great love, and in the end only the love remains. My job, the reason for my existence, is to hang on to that, no matter what. Then, when I am face to face with God, whoever or whatever hesheit may be, I can hope to hear the words I live to hear: "Well done, my good and faithful servant."

Amen.


nmarch88 - 10/11/2010 at 11:47 AM

Beautifully said Doug.

Thinking of you Bird.

Mark.


DougMacKenzie - 10/12/2010 at 09:07 AM

"Do you give the horse his strength
or clothe his neck with a flowing mane?
Do you make him leap like a locust,
striking terror with his proud snorting?
He paws fiercely, rejoicing in his strength,
and charges into the fray.
He laughs at fear, afraid of nothing;
he does not shy away from the sword.
The quiver rattles against his side,
along with the flashing spear and lance.
In frenzied excitement he eats up the ground;
he cannot stand still when the trumpet sounds."

Job 39:19-24


DougMacKenzie - 10/13/2010 at 09:34 AM

"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."

Matt. 5:14-16


piacere - 10/13/2010 at 10:10 AM

They said to the woman, "We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves , and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world".

John 4:42


DougMacKenzie - 10/14/2010 at 09:47 AM

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?"
"Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs."
Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?"
He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep."

The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."

Jesus said, "Feed my sheep. I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go." Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, "Follow me!"

John 21:15-19


DougMacKenzie - 10/15/2010 at 09:33 AM

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
"No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

John 8:1-11


piacere - 10/15/2010 at 10:19 AM

And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

1John 4:11


DougMacKenzie - 10/16/2010 at 10:15 AM

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

John 1:1-5


piacere - 10/17/2010 at 01:07 PM

Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything"?

"Nothing", they answered.

Luke 22:35


DougMacKenzie - 10/17/2010 at 03:13 PM

Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them saying:
"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Matt. 5:1-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/18/2010 at 09:25 AM

"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.


Matt. 6:1


DougMacKenzie - 10/19/2010 at 09:17 AM

"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matt. 6:2-4


piacere - 10/19/2010 at 11:03 PM

I quoted John 6:65 recently. I sometimes take for granted what a gift that is. Why me? Why do I deserve to be enabled? Man, unreal, the ultimate gift, there's nothing greater. Nothing. I wonder sometimes why not others but then I leave that to his plan.

We can chart our course but God has the final say. (Some proverb, loosely translated, that I read today)


DougMacKenzie - 10/20/2010 at 03:17 PM

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Matt. 6:5-8


DougMacKenzie - 10/21/2010 at 03:15 PM

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Matt. 6:19-21


piacere - 10/21/2010 at 04:16 PM

All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.

John 16:1


DougMacKenzie - 10/22/2010 at 02:55 PM

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

Matt. 6:24


DougMacKenzie - 10/23/2010 at 05:08 PM

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?

Matt 6:25-27


DougMacKenzie - 10/24/2010 at 08:23 PM

"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

Matt. 6:28-34


DougMacKenzie - 10/25/2010 at 09:52 PM

Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

Epesians 6:10-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/26/2010 at 04:48 PM

"Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints."

Ephesians 6:13-18


piacere - 10/26/2010 at 05:22 PM

He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters.

Psalm 18:16


DougMacKenzie - 10/27/2010 at 04:56 PM

"As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved."

Ephesians 2:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 10/28/2010 at 03:12 PM

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

Epesians 2:8-10


nmarch88 - 10/29/2010 at 05:13 AM

"I thank my God every time I remember you. In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy..."

Well, I've had pneumonia, can you believe it? Had a pretty hard time with this mess, getting better, thank God, but still have a way to go. Just about everyone I know either is or has been sick. Been thinking about everyone and missing everyone. Glad to be back. Everybody try to stay healthy.


piacere - 10/29/2010 at 03:19 PM

Hi Nancy...

Glad you're feeling better.

Was with my two grandchildren yesterday. Had to carry the two year old (girl) for a while. I was looking one way, she was looking another, as we turned to look at each other, with our faces about a half inch apart, she sneezed.

I'm figuring I'll feel the effects of that quite soon...


piacere - 10/30/2010 at 04:13 AM

I know I've mentioned a pastor or two in the past that I listen to on Christian radio. (Locally, 1590 am, WARV) Not sure though if I ever mentioned two who I think are as good and as solid as anyone I've ever heard. Chuck Swindoll and Charles Stanley.

merely a suggestion in case anyone is interested.

I love this thread.


DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2010 at 02:15 AM

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Ephesians 2:14-22


nmarch88 - 10/31/2010 at 05:18 AM

I'm very sorry. I will remember the Seaman family.

"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?" 1Cor 15:55

"Rejoice with those who rejoice, mourn with those who mourn." Rom 12:15


DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2010 at 06:34 AM

Keep the Seaman family in your prayers. Young Tyler lost his battle with cancer yesterday.

quote:
I'm very sorry. I will remember the Seaman family.

"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?" 1Cor 15:55

"Rejoice with those who rejoice, mourn with those who mourn." Rom 12:15


Amen.


DougMacKenzie - 11/1/2010 at 12:35 AM

I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

Ephesians 3:16-19


DougMacKenzie - 11/1/2010 at 04:30 PM

"Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Ephesians 4:2-6


piacere - 11/1/2010 at 06:25 PM

quote:
Keep the Seaman family in your prayers. Young Tyler lost his battle with cancer yesterday.


done.


piacere - 11/1/2010 at 06:27 PM

quote:
"Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Ephesians 4:2-6


beautiful verse. It's difficult choosing a favorite book from the Bible but Ephesians is certainly one of them.


sonnystang - 11/1/2010 at 06:29 PM

quote:
quote:
Keep the Seaman family in your prayers. Young Tyler lost his battle with cancer yesterday.


done.
and done............


DougMacKenzie - 11/2/2010 at 03:03 PM

"So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed."

Ephesians 4:17-19


piacere - 11/3/2010 at 04:53 AM

I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever that may be.

Galatians 5:10


DougMacKenzie - 11/3/2010 at 02:57 PM

"That, however, is not the way of life you learned when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness."

Ephesians 4:20-24


nmarch88 - 11/4/2010 at 04:30 PM

"to be made new in the attitude of your minds"

circumstances can rob us of our security, and joy.

"renew my strength, restore my joy, and dry my weeping eyes"

"now faith is being certain of what we do not see"

Everybody have a good day


DougMacKenzie - 11/4/2010 at 05:21 PM

"Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold. Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.

Ephesians 4:25-28


DougMacKenzie - 11/4/2010 at 05:21 PM

Nancy.


piacere - 11/5/2010 at 01:26 PM

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,...

Romans 8:1


piacere - 11/5/2010 at 01:30 PM

Hmmmm, my post, posted much later than Doug's, appears before his.

I guess someone wants us reading Ephesians right now and not Romans...


piacere - 11/5/2010 at 01:31 PM

yikes, TWO of my posts are now appearing before that Ephesians verse....


DougMacKenzie - 11/5/2010 at 02:16 PM

quote:
yikes, TWO of my posts are now appearing before that Ephesians verse....


Looks like it has something to do with a warp in the space-time continuum.


DougMacKenzie - 11/5/2010 at 02:17 PM

quote:
quote:
yikes, TWO of my posts are now appearing before that Ephesians verse....


Looks like it has something to do with a warp in the space-time continuum.


I just posted before the post I made earlier this morning, and when I did the thread did not move up. Strrrrrrange........


DougMacKenzie - 11/5/2010 at 05:04 PM

"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

Epehsians 4:29=32


nmarch88 - 11/5/2010 at 11:13 PM

Otieeeeeeeee......that was not an intrusion. Come on in anytime. At first, I thought you were being silly with Doug and Mark.


DougMacKenzie - 11/6/2010 at 12:15 AM

quote:
Things will be OK in a little less than 3 hours.


If only this were the NFL thread.


DougMacKenzie - 11/6/2010 at 11:30 PM

I'm constantly amazed at the way God blesses us through the trials, tribulations, and triumphs of others, at just the right time, just when we need it the most. We need to remember this when times seem dark and troublesome. We need to reach out to others when we struggle, and be there for others when they reach out to us. God always gives us what we need, when we need it, and wants us to know that he is our provider, our strength, our refuge, our shelter from the storm. Always.


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2010 at 01:54 PM

"Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. "

Ephesians 5:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 11/8/2010 at 03:52 PM

"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light.

Ephesians 5:8-13


nmarch88 - 11/8/2010 at 04:10 PM

"and everything that is illuminated becomes a light"

this would be good over in the sober thread


DougMacKenzie - 11/9/2010 at 11:56 AM

"Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 5:15-20


DougMacKenzie - 11/10/2010 at 11:50 AM

I love this verse within the context of Ephesians 5:

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Ephesians 5:21-33


piacere - 11/10/2010 at 12:49 PM

how utterly and disgustingly lost I get when I take my eyes off Jesus.

I take those first few steps of faith, take my eyes off him...and off to drowning I go.

It makes me sick to think that in my times of weakness I can fall to such depths.

I'm making a new committment. Right here, right now.


nmarch88 - 11/10/2010 at 01:12 PM

One of the best sermons I ever heard was based on these verses in Ephesians 5, this was years ago and I hear it like it was yesterday, he said "Dads, the most important thing you can do for you kids is to love their mother" ......... very important indeed.

"Blessed are you "piacere", for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven" Matt 16:17


piacere - 11/11/2010 at 01:34 AM

quote:
One of the best sermons I ever heard was based on these verses in Ephesians 5, this was years ago and I hear it like it was yesterday, he said "Dads, the most important thing you can do for you kids is to love their mother" ......... very important indeed.

"Blessed are you "piacere", for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven" Matt 16:17


amazing how one sentence can edify and encourage someone.

Thanks Nancy.

I have a number of devotionals, not one, I have to admit, have I opened in the past year or so."Destined to Reign" by Joseph Prince, "Six Battles Every Man Must Win" by Bill Perkins, "My Utmost for His Highest" by Oswald Chambers and my favorite, "Power Prayers for Men" by John Tiner, to name but a few.
So I go out for a ride tonight, had the Allman's playin' and I got so disgusted with the way I've been the past few days that I drove home and opened one of them to help me along in my new committment. I opened the "Destined to Reign" devotional to a random page and it was the devotional for August 2, " Don't be Judgment-Focused".

Now, many will interpret that as a random occurence, a coincidence, if you will ( there are no coincidences, only God's will..[DougMacKenzie] ) but I see it as God saying, " I know where your heart has been the last few days Mark. Here, read this".

A rather fine way to get me back on the path, wouldn't you say?

God is so patient and understanding and through Christ, does not hold our transgressions and sins against us.

Thank you Jesus.


DougMacKenzie - 11/11/2010 at 03:39 AM

quote:
God is so patient and understanding and through Christ, does not hold our transgressions and sins against us.

Thank you Jesus.

Amen to that brother.

"Those who are forgiven much, love much."


DougMacKenzie - 11/11/2010 at 12:07 PM

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”
Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord."

Ephesians 6:1-4


piacere - 11/11/2010 at 02:12 PM

The only basis on which God can forgive us is the tremendous tragedy of the Cross of Christ. To base our forgiveness on any other ground is unconscious blasphemy. The only ground on which God can forgive our sin and reinstate us to His favor is through Christ and the cost of the cross.

--Oswald Chambers


nmarch88 - 11/12/2010 at 03:01 AM

"You are not your own; you were bought at a price" 1Cor 6:20


DougMacKenzie - 11/12/2010 at 11:35 AM

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. "

Ephesians 6:5-9


piacere - 11/13/2010 at 01:04 PM

"in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God--and righteousness and sanctification and redemption..."

1Corinthians 1:30


piacere - 11/14/2010 at 02:43 PM

The great wonder of Jesus Christ's salvation is that He changes our heredity. He does not change human nature--He changes its source, and thereby its motives as well.

O.C.


DougMacKenzie - 11/15/2010 at 11:57 AM

"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God."

Ephesians 6:10-17


piacere - 11/15/2010 at 12:04 PM

...if we are totally surrendered to Jesus, we have no goals of our own to serve.

---O.C.


DougMacKenzie - 11/16/2010 at 11:58 AM

"And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.

Ephesians 6:18-20


piacere - 11/16/2010 at 09:59 PM

so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace...

Isaiah 55: 11-12

"Invitation to the Thirsty"


DougMacKenzie - 11/17/2010 at 11:50 AM

Sometimes I let my faith be pushed aside, washed out of my immediate thoughts and actions by the tide of everyday life. I take my eyes off of Jesus and focus on my worn out vehicle, the upcoming college education of my kids, the level of our bank account at the end of the month around Christmas time. I take off my eternal glasses and trade them for temporal ones. I feel the pressures of this world close in on me. I see problems instead of solutions, suffering instead of hope, work instead of grace. It's the same thing Mark posted not long ago; I take my eyes off of Jesus and start to drown. Thank you God for always rescuing me when I reach out to you, for always putting people in my life who remind me it's about you and not me. Always.

"You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace..."

Amen.


piacere - 11/17/2010 at 08:54 PM

Doug my brother.

I'm pretty sure that happens, to varying degrees, to each and every follower of The Way. We are sanctified by His blood, however; given the gift of God's grace and mercy.

You are truly blessed...because you are a blessing.


nmarch88 - 11/18/2010 at 12:12 AM

"so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key...."

"a physical world creates a spiritual haze.."

it's all summed up in that one statement "it's about You and not me"

I've been in the same place this week. Anybody read "An Echo in the Darkness"? There's a portrait of how I wish I lived.

I really love this place. For just this reason.


DougMacKenzie - 11/18/2010 at 11:58 AM

Met the the "Happy Husband" group last night, the one I didn't like when it started because so many members were obviously missing the boat spiritually (insert self deprecating sarcasm here.) We are down to 4 or 5 steady members, and it has turned out to be awesome. Last night's topic was pride. Ouch..........

"For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Luke 14:11


piacere - 11/18/2010 at 02:00 PM

He can do nothing for us as long as we think we are sufficient in and of ourselves.


DougMacKenzie - 11/19/2010 at 02:09 PM

The LORD is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he refreshes my soul.
He guides me along the right paths
for his name’s sake.
Even though I walk
through the darkest valley,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely your goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.


DougMacKenzie - 11/20/2010 at 11:40 AM

We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, because we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love you have for all God’s people— the faith and love that spring from the hope stored up for you in heaven and about which you have already heard in the true message of the gospel that has come to you. In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world—just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and truly understood God’s grace.

Colassians 1:3-6


piacere - 11/20/2010 at 12:53 PM

But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

Jude 20-21


piacere - 11/21/2010 at 02:13 PM

This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.

Romans 3:22-25


DougMacKenzie - 11/22/2010 at 11:55 AM

" For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. "

Colassians 1:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 11/22/2010 at 11:55 AM

Ooops! Double post. Must've been doubly important. Everyone stay safe for the upcoming holiday season.

[Edited on 11/22/2010 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 11/23/2010 at 12:04 PM

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

Colossians 1:15-20


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2010 at 01:12 PM

"Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel."

Colossians 1:21-23


DougMacKenzie - 11/25/2010 at 12:54 PM

Man, I had the opportunity and inclination to hammer a forum member and expose their hypocrisy, bitterness, and anti-christian sentiment, and was in the process of doing so, releshing the moment, when I saw a pm to me about posting in this thread. I am humbly reminded our job is to love others the way Christ loves us, to die to ourselves and our selfish earthly desires and live for him just as he lives for us. Thank you God for the way you work in our lives through the people you have created.

"For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

Ephesians 2:10


piacere - 11/26/2010 at 12:52 PM

God enables some to draw near to his Son, others, he doesn't. His way is beyond our understanding, the perfectness of it beyond our comprehension. Ours is to do the will of the One he sent.


DougMacKenzie - 11/26/2010 at 01:46 PM

"So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.'

Colossians 2:6-7


RickyM - 11/26/2010 at 04:44 PM

quote:
God enables some to draw near to his Son, others, he doesn't. His way is beyond our understanding, the perfectness of it beyond our comprehension. Ours is to do the will of the One he sent.


I think God enables EVERYONE to draw near to Him.But, He is a Gentleman, He never forces Himself on anyone.But He is there if you are open and ask Him to come in. There is that old picture of Jesus knocking on the door of a home.If you notice, there is no handle on the outside of the door. It has to be opened from the inside.He allows all of us to have free-will.That is true love.


piacere - 11/27/2010 at 01:48 AM

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God enables some to draw near to his Son, others, he doesn't. His way is beyond our understanding, the perfectness of it beyond our comprehension. Ours is to do the will of the One he sent.


I think God enables EVERYONE to draw near to Him.But, He is a Gentleman, He never forces Himself on anyone.But He is there if you are open and ask Him to come in. There is that old picture of Jesus knocking on the door of a home.If you notice, there is no handle on the outside of the door. It has to be opened from the inside.He allows all of us to have free-will.That is true love.


That's the key. Some He draws near to Himself by opening their hearts and minds, in the form of His Son, to His Word, others, He doesn't.

"No one knows who the father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him"
Luke 10:22

and again,

"This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him"
John6:65

these points are one of the five "Calvinisms", this one being the "Doctrine of Election". They have been debated and discussed for a while and as far as I know, certain denominations do not take heed in them. Nevertheless, there is no doubting the words of Jesus himself.

The important thing to remember, for me anyway, amongst ANY Christian debate or scrutiny, "opinion", or derogatory remark, is to keep our relationship with Jesus Christ as intimate and close and personal as possible.

"Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me."

John 12:26


piacere - 11/28/2010 at 09:03 PM

"Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning..."

Luke 12:35


piacere - 11/29/2010 at 04:50 PM

Jesus answered, "Unless I wash you, you have no part with me."

John 13:8


DougMacKenzie - 11/29/2010 at 04:54 PM

"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ."

Colossians 2:8


DougMacKenzie - 11/30/2010 at 04:55 PM

"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead. "

Colossians 2:9-12


DougMacKenzie - 12/1/2010 at 12:00 PM

"When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross."

Colossians 2:13-15


DougMacKenzie - 12/2/2010 at 11:49 AM

"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. "

Colossians 2:16-19


nmarch88 - 12/3/2010 at 02:06 AM

"In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord's commandments and regulations blamelessly. But they had no children, because Elizabeth was barren, and they were both well along in years." Luke 1:5-7


DougMacKenzie - 12/3/2010 at 03:30 AM


DougMacKenzie - 12/3/2010 at 12:06 PM

I need you guys to please pray for my wife, Sandy. Her mom and sister told her last night they did not want her around anymore during the holiday season. She comes from an alcoholic familiy system, and when she talks about what is going on instead of pretending everything is wonderful they get upset. So much so they are willing to not have us or our kids around. This is very hurtful for all of us, espcially she and the kids, as we have always enjoyed the holidays with family so much and don't really understand their position. Its not like Sandy tips over the punchbowl or throws the turkey outside with the dogs. All involved are Christians, which makes it even more puzzling, and hurtful. Your thoughts and prayers would be much appreciated. Thanks.


nmarch88 - 12/3/2010 at 01:36 PM

Doug that is truly sad. I am really sorry. I will pray. Pretending everything is wonderful....so hollow.


nmarch88 - 12/4/2010 at 12:16 AM

Zechariah went into the temple of the Lord to burn incense............

"Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. But the angel said to him; 'Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John. He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink and he will be filled with Holy Spirit even from birth..... Luke 1:11-15


DougMacKenzie - 12/4/2010 at 01:08 PM

"Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."

Colossians 2:20-23


nmarch88 - 12/5/2010 at 02:21 AM

"Zechariah asked the angel, "How can I be sure of this: I am an old man and my wife is well along in years."

The angel answered , "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to tell you this good news. And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their proper time."

"When his time of service was completed, he returned home. After this his wife Elizabeth became pregnant and for five months remained in seclusion. "The Lord has done this for me," she said. "In these days He has shown His favor and taken away my disgrace among the people." Luke 1:18-20 , 23-25


nmarch88 - 12/6/2010 at 12:06 AM

"In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you." Luke 1:26-28


DougMacKenzie - 12/6/2010 at 11:42 AM

"Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. "

Colossians 3:1-4


gina - 12/6/2010 at 04:56 PM

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I need you guys to please pray for my wife, Sandy. Her mom and sister told her last night they did not want her around anymore during the holiday season. She comes from an alcoholic familiy system, and when she talks about what is going on instead of pretending everything is wonderful they get upset. So much so they are willing to not have us or our kids around. This is very hurtful for all of us, espcially she and the kids, as we have always enjoyed the holidays with family so much and don't really understand their position. Its not like Sandy tips over the punchbowl or throws the turkey outside with the dogs. All involved are Christians, which makes it even more puzzling, and hurtful. Your thoughts and prayers would be much appreciated. Thanks.


There is a command not to be yoked with unbelievers. The decision is to go along with hypocrisy to keep the peace, or live in honor and truth. She wants to maintain kinship but the spiritual cost is too high. While it is painful for her, she will set a better example for your children not to go along with hypocrites. The problem she faces is one many others face also.

If she wants to sit with the hypocrites she will have to apologize even though she is not wrong, which means she has to lie, and then she has to endure their boasting about themselves, their lives, their accomplishments and validate their lies.

It is very hard being ex-communicated, I know someone who just went thru this, and I myself went thru this in 2003 with some relatives. In my case, they attempted reconciliation and I did meet with them for one event where I maintained a civility, but on the core issue the person I had a problem with remains a hypocrite who is only concerned with appearances and this person has issues with their own direct family members some of whom refuse to even speak to each other.

You have to decide how far you will bend and compromise. If your wife's Mom and sister want to criticize her and try to belittle her and expose her faults while believing they have none, she is better not being there with them at all.

I have a friend who, after Thanksgiving and 2 other events that happened is just writing off all of her relatives, and given the situation I cannot say that I blame her. When people are going to destroy you emotionally or otherwise you have to put distance between yourself and them or you will not survive.



DougMacKenzie - 12/6/2010 at 05:08 PM

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for my wife and her family. Her mom called last night and apologized, and they had a very nice and air clearing conversation. It was very gratifyng for both of them. Sister won't talk to anyone now, which is her choice. Holidays weill continue with all the family that want to attend. I'm very happy for my wife. Thanks again!


nmarch88 - 12/7/2010 at 03:00 AM

Very good news, Doug.


nmarch88 - 12/7/2010 at 03:05 AM

"Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David, and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever; His kingdom will never end." Luke 1:29-33


DougMacKenzie - 12/7/2010 at 02:00 PM

"Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."

Colossians 3:5-11


DougMacKenzie - 12/8/2010 at 11:11 AM

"Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity."

Colossians 3:12-14


nmarch88 - 12/9/2010 at 11:27 AM

"How will this be," Mary asked the angel,"since I am a virgin?"
The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you , and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. For nothing is impossible with God"
"I am the Lord's the servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her. Luke 1:34-38


DougMacKenzie - 12/9/2010 at 01:42 PM

"Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful."

Colossians 3:15


DougMacKenzie - 12/10/2010 at 11:41 AM

Wanted to give anohter update on my wife's family. She and her sister talked for a long time yesterday. really got some things cleared up, and now everyone is back on track. In any long term relationship we are bound to have hurts, frustrations, and disagreements. It is so important to talk about these things and work them out. It brings us closer together rather than tearing us apart. Not always easy, but well worth it. We need to value each other and our relatikonships more.

“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift."

Matt. 5:23-24


nmarch88 - 12/11/2010 at 12:06 PM

At that time, Mary went to visit her cousin Elizabeth...
"When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed; Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? As soon the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leapt for joy. Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!" Luke 1:41-45


DougMacKenzie - 12/11/2010 at 02:47 PM

"Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."

Colossians 3:16-17


DougMacKenzie - 12/13/2010 at 01:18 AM

"Love never fails."


nmarch88 - 12/13/2010 at 02:29 AM

And Mary said;
"My soul glorifies the Lord
and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
for he has been mindful
of the humble state of his servant
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
for the Mighty One has done great things for me
Holy is His name
His mercy extends to those who fear Him,
from generation to generation.
He has perfomed mighty deeds with His arm;
He has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts,
He has brought down rulers from their thrones
but has lifted up the humble.
He has filled the hungry with good things
but has sent the rich away empty.
He has helped His servant Israel,
remembering to be merciful
to Abraham and his descendants forever,
even as He said to our fathers."

Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home. Luke 1:46-56


DougMacKenzie - 12/13/2010 at 02:02 PM

"Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.

Fathers,[c] do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged."

Colossians 3:18-21


piacere - 12/13/2010 at 03:21 PM

Hmmmm....I wonder what Nancy is getting to....


DougMacKenzie - 12/14/2010 at 12:00 PM

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism."

Colossians 3:22-25


nmarch88 - 12/15/2010 at 02:36 AM

Hey Mark...... I am positively giddy with anticipation...just like the kids


nmarch88 - 12/15/2010 at 02:46 AM

"When it was time for Elizabeth to have her baby, she gave birth to a son. Her neighbors and relatives heard that the Lord had shown her great mercy, and they shared her joy.
On the eighth day they came to circumcise the child, and they were going to name him after his father Zechariah, but his mother spoke up and said, "No! He is to be called John."
They said to her, "There is no one among your relatives who has that name."
Then they made signs to his father, to find out what he would like to name the child. He asked for a writing tablet, and to everyone's astonishment he wrote, "His name is John." Immediately his mouth was opened and his tongue was loosed, and he began to speak, praising God. The neighbors were all filled with awe, and throughout the hill country of Judea people were talking about all these things. Everyone who heard this wondered about it, asking, "What then is this child going to be?" For the Lord's hand was with him. Luke 1:57-66


nmarch88 - 12/16/2010 at 03:11 AM

His father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied;

"Praise be to the Lord, God of Israel,
because He has come and has redeemed His people.
He has raised up a horn of salvation for us
in the house of His servant David (as He said through His holy prophets of long ago),
salvation from our enemies
and from the hand of all who hate us -
to show mercy to our fathers
and to remember His holy covenant,
the oath He swore to our father Abraham:
to rescue us from the hands of our enemies,
and to enable us to serve Him without fear
in holiness and righteousness before Him all our days.

And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for Him
to give His people the knowledge of salvation
through the forgiveness of their sins,
because of the tender mercy of our God,
by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
to shine on those living in darkness
and in the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the path of peace."

And the child grew and became strong in spirit, and he lived in the desert until he appeared publicly to Israel. Luke 1:67-80


DougMacKenzie - 12/16/2010 at 11:58 AM

"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends."

John 15:13


DougMacKenzie - 12/17/2010 at 04:45 PM

"All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

John 10:8-10


DougMacKenzie - 12/18/2010 at 03:30 PM

"At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

John 8:2-11


DougMacKenzie - 12/19/2010 at 05:23 PM

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."

John 1:1-5


nmarch88 - 12/20/2010 at 01:14 AM

Oh my goodness, it's Christmas time! Does it feel like it? For me, the anticipation is killing me. The air is absolutely electric. Life is normal, hectic, hard, with pleasant moments mixed in, man I'm tired. But there is expectation. We are about to celebrate the highest event in the history of man. Do you think the air was electric then too? Well, bad choice of words since they didn't have electricity, but, was the anticipation the same? Were they expectant? Could they feel something big coming? We have the benefit of knowing what happened. Maybe that's the expectation. I enjoy the joy and wonder of the kids. And that doesn't mean all the crap they get. Which won't be much this year, and yet, there will be joy and wonder. I can't wait.


nmarch88 - 12/20/2010 at 01:24 AM

This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about. His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is concieved in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins." Matthew 1:18-19


DougMacKenzie - 12/20/2010 at 12:56 PM

"The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world."

John 1:9


nmarch88 - 12/21/2010 at 03:33 AM

In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. And everyone went to his own town to register.
So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. Luke 2:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 12/21/2010 at 12:30 PM

"He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him."

John 1:10


DougMacKenzie - 12/22/2010 at 01:42 PM

"He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God."

John 1:11-13

[Edited on 12/22/2010 by DougMacKenzie]


nmarch88 - 12/23/2010 at 02:45 AM

He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. Luke 2:5-7


DougMacKenzie - 12/23/2010 at 01:52 PM

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

John 1:14


nmarch88 - 12/24/2010 at 02:28 AM

And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord apppeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shown around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them;
"Do not be afraid, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you, He is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger."
Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying;
"Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to men on whom His favor rests."


Merry, Merry Christmas everyone. I pray we each receive anew the Gift that was given.


DougMacKenzie - 12/24/2010 at 11:37 AM

"Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

John 1:16-18


DougMacKenzie - 12/25/2010 at 04:00 PM

Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—

The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.
You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as warriors rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
For as in the day of Midian’s defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
Every warrior’s boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

Isaiah 9:1-7


nmarch88 - 12/26/2010 at 03:33 PM

Amen


DougMacKenzie - 12/27/2010 at 12:27 PM

Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:34-40


DougMacKenzie - 12/28/2010 at 01:19 PM

"You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other."

Galatians 5:13-15

[Edited on 12/28/2010 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 12/29/2010 at 02:16 PM

"So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law."

Galatians 5:16-18


DougMacKenzie - 12/30/2010 at 01:12 PM

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Galatians 5:19-21


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2010 at 12:38 PM

Well, another year has come and gone. Some ahrd times this year, like every year, but the good times far outweigh them. The good things seem to get better, and the hard things less intense, or at least less important. Watching my kids grow up, sharing that with my wife, and just being part of a Christ centered family gets better all the time. It is so cool to know that we are brothers and sisters in Christ, that we will all get to share in the feast that is to come, that even though we've never met here we will get to meet under the most joyous of circumstances there. I am so looking forward to that day. Happy New Year everyone.

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

Galatians 5:22-23


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2011 at 02:50 PM

"Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted."

Galations 6:1


DougMacKenzie - 1/2/2011 at 04:01 PM

"Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."

Galatians 6:2


DougMacKenzie - 1/3/2011 at 11:51 AM

"If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves. Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, for each one should carry their own load. Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor."

Galatians 6:3-6


DougMacKenzie - 1/4/2011 at 11:40 AM

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

Galatians 6:7


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2011 at 11:56 AM

" Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."

Galatians 6:8


DougMacKenzie - 1/6/2011 at 12:27 PM

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."

Galatians 6:9


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2011 at 11:42 AM

"Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers."

Galatians 6:10


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2011 at 04:04 PM

We always thank God for all of you and continually mention you in our prayers. We remember before our God and Father your work produced by faith, your labor prompted by love, and your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thessolonians 1:2-3


DougMacKenzie - 1/9/2011 at 01:23 PM

Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

Thessolonians 5:16-18


DougMacKenzie - 1/10/2011 at 11:29 AM

Do not quench the Spirit. Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil.

Thessolonians 5:19-22


DougMacKenzie - 1/11/2011 at 11:39 AM

May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it.

Thessoloninas 5:23-24


DougMacKenzie - 1/12/2011 at 01:12 PM

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 1:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 1/13/2011 at 11:42 AM

Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothey 1:15-17


DougMacKenzie - 1/14/2011 at 11:59 AM

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

1 Timothy 2:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 1/15/2011 at 01:13 PM

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.

1 Timothy 2:5-6


DougMacKenzie - 1/16/2011 at 12:22 PM

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

1 Timothy 6:6-8


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2011 at 03:51 PM

Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

1 Timothy 6:9-10


gapeach69 - 1/17/2011 at 04:37 PM

Oh My goodness....why have I never seen this thread Before!!!???!!!! Sometimes I feel like I am the only "eliever"on here. Thank you so much for this thread and showing ypur testimony of faith!! Keep it coming, God BLess you! Love it!


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2011 at 05:48 PM

Lots of testimony from lots of people throughout this thread. Glad you stopped in. Feel free to post anytime.


gapeach69 - 1/17/2011 at 07:01 PM

I was so excited I couldnt type before...lots of typos. I will post! Thanks again!


DougMacKenzie - 1/18/2011 at 02:01 PM

But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

1 Timothy 6:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 1/19/2011 at 11:52 AM

Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.

1 Timothy 6:17-19


DougMacKenzie - 1/20/2011 at 12:13 PM

For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline. So do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord.

2 Timothy 1:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2011 at 11:58 AM

He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

2 Timothey 1:9-10


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2011 at 02:26 PM

You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others. Join with me in suffering, like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer. Similarly, anyone who competes as an athlete does not receive the victor’s crown except by competing according to the rules. The hardworking farmer should be the first to receive a share of the crops. Reflect on what I am saying, for the Lord will give you insight into all this.

2 Timothy 2:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2011 at 06:56 PM

My 13 y/o daughter got baptized today by the same preacher who baptized me almost 10 years ago. I can't describe the joy and gratitude we all experienced,. I was doing okay until he choked up, then we both lost it. What a wonderful moment, what a loving and merciful God holds all in the plam of his hand.

Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David......Here is a trustworthy saying:

If we died with him,
we will also live with him;
if we endure,
we will also reign with him.
If we disown him,
he will also disown us;
if we are faithless,
he remains faithful,
for he cannot disown himself.

2 Timothy 2:8; 11-13


DougMacKenzie - 1/24/2011 at 12:00 PM

Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.

2 Timothey 2:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 1/25/2011 at 11:48 AM

Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

2 Timothy 2:22


DougMacKenzie - 1/26/2011 at 11:51 AM

Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

2 Timothy 2:23-26


DougMacKenzie - 1/27/2011 at 11:48 AM

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

2 Timothy 3:1-5


sonnystang - 1/27/2011 at 12:34 PM

Thanks Doug........................


DougMacKenzie - 1/28/2011 at 11:45 AM

They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

2 Timothy 3:6-7


piacere - 1/28/2011 at 02:49 PM

2Timothy...great book.


DougMacKenzie - 1/29/2011 at 02:40 PM

But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Timothy 3:14-17


DougMacKenzie - 1/30/2011 at 06:05 PM

In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

2 Timothy 4:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 1/31/2011 at 01:19 PM

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

2 Timothy 4:3-5


piacere - 1/31/2011 at 03:42 PM

truths that have withstood the test of time.

awesome.


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2011 at 03:21 PM

For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

2 Timothy 4:6-8


DougMacKenzie - 2/2/2011 at 02:56 PM

The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

2 Timothy 4:18


DougMacKenzie - 2/3/2011 at 01:33 PM

An elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

Titus 1:6-9


DougMacKenzie - 2/4/2011 at 02:45 PM

To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

Titus 1:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 2/5/2011 at 01:44 PM

You, however, must teach what is appropriate to sound doctrine. Teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-controlled, and sound in faith, in love and in endurance.

Titus 2:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 2/6/2011 at 03:48 PM

Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

Titus 2:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 2/7/2011 at 11:56 AM

Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled. In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness 8 and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us.

Titus 2:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 2/8/2011 at 11:34 AM

Love this verse in its proper context:

Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.

Titus 2:9-10


DougMacKenzie - 2/9/2011 at 11:33 AM

For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

Titus 2:11-14

[Edited on 2/9/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


piacere - 2/9/2011 at 05:05 PM

I was going to start a Matthew set of verses through the book as I have a new friend of mine, recently saved, reading that book but I'll just read...and walk along.

right with ya, brother.


DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2011 at 01:23 PM

These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

Titus 2:15

Mark


DougMacKenzie - 2/11/2011 at 11:58 AM

Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone.

Titus 3:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 2/12/2011 at 03:07 PM

At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

Titus 3:3-7


DougMacKenzie - 2/14/2011 at 11:56 AM

And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

Titus 3:8


DougMacKenzie - 2/15/2011 at 11:47 AM

Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

Titus 3:10-11


DougMacKenzie - 2/16/2011 at 12:19 PM

In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.

Hebres 1:1-3


piacere - 2/16/2011 at 04:08 PM

still right with ya, brother.


DougMacKenzie - 2/16/2011 at 04:09 PM

Mark


DougMacKenzie - 2/17/2011 at 03:21 PM

We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. For since the message spoken through angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

Hebrews 2:1-4


RickyM - 2/17/2011 at 03:52 PM

quote:
At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

Titus 3:3-7


DougMacKenzie - 2/18/2011 at 12:21 PM

In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered. Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.

Hebrews 2:10-11


DougMacKenzie - 2/19/2011 at 12:01 PM

Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

Hebrews 2:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 2/20/2011 at 08:17 PM

For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Hebres 2:17-18


DougMacKenzie - 2/21/2011 at 01:05 PM

Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest. He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house.

Hebrews 3:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 2/22/2011 at 12:28 PM

Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself. For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. “Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future. But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory.

Hebres 3:3-6


DougMacKenzie - 2/23/2011 at 12:23 PM

See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.

Hebrews 3:12-14


piacere - 2/24/2011 at 02:17 PM

good one...^


RickyM - 2/24/2011 at 02:26 PM

quote:
good one...^



Is there a bad one ?? LOL


DougMacKenzie - 2/24/2011 at 03:24 PM

Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.

Hebrews 4:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 2/25/2011 at 02:21 PM

And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:

“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”

Hebrews 4:3-7


piacere - 2/25/2011 at 02:51 PM

quote:
quote:
good one...^



Is there a bad one ?? LOL


heh heh, no.

it's just that some are more poignant with respect to our current personal condition...but it's always been that way. Whenever there is a condition or issue or some stumbling block, the answer is in God's Word. Always.


DougMacKenzie - 2/26/2011 at 02:22 PM

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

Hebrews 4:8-11


DougMacKenzie - 2/27/2011 at 11:56 PM

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Hebrews 4:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 2/28/2011 at 11:39 AM

Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Hebrews 4:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 3/1/2011 at 11:55 AM

During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 5:7-10


piacere - 3/1/2011 at 09:52 PM

I just read 2Peter and 1John. After, God put your name on my heart, Doug, moreso than usual. I continue to pray for you, always will. You're truly blessed and that, as God loves when we return to Him what He gives us, in turn makes you a blessing.

and I pray for this thread, all who enter, all who read it.


DougMacKenzie - 3/2/2011 at 11:54 AM

Much appreciated Mark.

Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about cleansing rites, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so.

Hebrews 6:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 3/3/2011 at 12:26 PM

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

Hebres 6:4-8


DougMacKenzie - 3/4/2011 at 02:26 PM

Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are convinced of better things in your case—the things that have to do with salvation. God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, so that what you hope for may be fully realized. We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.

Hebrews 6:9-12


DougMacKenzie - 3/5/2011 at 01:28 PM

Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 6:17-20


DougMacKenzie - 3/6/2011 at 02:38 PM

Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.
Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

Hebrews 7:23-28


DougMacKenzie - 3/7/2011 at 02:27 PM

The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.

Hebrews 8:8-12


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2011 at 12:08 PM

The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

Hebrews 9:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 3/9/2011 at 12:07 PM

For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebres 9:24-28


DougMacKenzie - 3/10/2011 at 12:21 PM

The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, my God.’”

Hebrews 10:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 3/11/2011 at 04:07 PM

First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Hebrews 10:8-10


DougMacKenzie - 3/12/2011 at 06:16 PM

Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

Hebrews 10:19-25


DougMacKenzie - 3/13/2011 at 12:48 PM

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 10:26-31


DougMacKenzie - 3/14/2011 at 02:19 PM

Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you endured in a great conflict full of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.

You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. For,

“In just a little while,
he who is coming will come
and will not delay.”

And,

“But my righteous one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure
in the one who shrinks back.”

But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.

Hebrews 10:32-39


DougMacKenzie - 3/15/2011 at 03:30 PM

Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for.

Hebrews 11:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 3/16/2011 at 12:55 PM

By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

Hebrews 11:3


piacere - 3/16/2011 at 02:38 PM

God bless ya, DUG.

still following along, brother.

a side note; as tough as it is to give thanks and praise to our Father in heaven, creator of all things who sent His Son as a ransom for many, during times of trouble and conflict and hardship, doing so creates a stronger and healthier friendship with and reliance upon His mercies, wisdom and faithfulness...


DougMacKenzie - 3/17/2011 at 12:25 PM

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Hebrews 11:6


DougMacKenzie - 3/18/2011 at 03:26 PM

By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise. And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

Hebrews 11:8-12


nmarch88 - 3/19/2011 at 02:38 AM

Making an apprehensive step. Doug, your choice of scripture.... cannot be random.

I've been...troubled. But I think at least part of the lesson for me is, even if I didn't sin, my relationship with God wouldn't be over.

I am so thankful for this thread.


DougMacKenzie - 3/19/2011 at 01:56 PM

All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

Hebrews 11:13-16


DougMacKenzie - 3/20/2011 at 05:29 PM

And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Hebrews 11:32-40


DougMacKenzie - 3/21/2011 at 01:07 PM

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

Hebrews 12:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 3/22/2011 at 11:26 AM

In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says,
“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”


Hebrews 12:4-6


DougMacKenzie - 3/23/2011 at 02:57 PM

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

Hebrews 12:7-11


DougMacKenzie - 3/24/2011 at 10:46 AM

Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. “Make level paths for your feet,” so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed.

Hebrews 12:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 3/25/2011 at 04:19 PM

Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

Hebrews 12:14


DougMacKenzie - 3/26/2011 at 01:36 PM

See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many.

Hebrews 12:15


RickyM - 3/26/2011 at 04:36 PM

Words of Wisdom !! Thanks


DougMacKenzie - 3/27/2011 at 03:30 PM

You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

Hebrews 12:18-24


DougMacKenzie - 3/28/2011 at 11:13 AM

See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.

Hebrews 12:25-27


DougMacKenzie - 3/29/2011 at 01:05 PM

Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our “God is a consuming fire.”

Hebrews 12:28-29


DougMacKenzie - 3/30/2011 at 02:16 PM

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.

Hebrews 13:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 3/31/2011 at 01:30 PM

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,

“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”

So we say with confidence,

“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can mere mortals do to me?”

Hebrews 13:4-6


DougMacKenzie - 4/1/2011 at 10:57 AM

Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Hebrews 13:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2011 at 03:10 PM

The high priest carries the blood of animals into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore. For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the city that is to come.

Hebrews 13:11-14


DougMacKenzie - 4/3/2011 at 06:51 PM

Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

Hebrews 13:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 4/4/2011 at 10:44 AM

Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

Hebrews 13:17


DougMacKenzie - 4/5/2011 at 10:55 AM

Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, equip you with everything good for doing his will, and may he work in us what is pleasing to him, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Hebrews 13:20-21


piacere - 4/5/2011 at 01:02 PM

gee, that Hebrews sure is a great book...


DougMacKenzie - 4/6/2011 at 02:44 PM

Mark.


DougMacKenzie - 4/6/2011 at 02:55 PM

Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. And you also are among those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

Romans 1:1-6


DougMacKenzie - 4/7/2011 at 11:06 AM

First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world. God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.

Romans 1:8-10


DougMacKenzie - 4/8/2011 at 04:25 PM

I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong— that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.

Romans 1:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 4/9/2011 at 03:27 PM

I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

Romans 1:14-17


DougMacKenzie - 4/10/2011 at 04:58 PM

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Romans 1:18-20


DougMacKenzie - 4/11/2011 at 11:15 AM

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Romans 1:21-23


DougMacKenzie - 4/12/2011 at 01:49 PM

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Romans 1:24-25


piacere - 4/12/2011 at 03:26 PM

thanks, Doug. You're a blessing...


DougMacKenzie - 4/12/2011 at 05:48 PM

Mark.


DougMacKenzie - 4/13/2011 at 11:18 AM

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Romans 1:26-27


DougMacKenzie - 4/14/2011 at 01:21 PM

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Romans 1:28-32


DougMacKenzie - 4/15/2011 at 11:26 AM

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

Romans 2:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 4/16/2011 at 03:33 PM

But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.

Romans 2:5-11


DougMacKenzie - 4/17/2011 at 02:58 PM

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Romans 2:12-16


DougMacKenzie - 4/18/2011 at 11:12 AM

Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and boast in God; if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? As it is written: “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”

Romans 2:17-24


DougMacKenzie - 4/19/2011 at 01:05 PM

Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

Romans 2:25-27


DougMacKenzie - 4/20/2011 at 11:04 AM

A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Romans 2:28-29


DougMacKenzie - 4/21/2011 at 11:14 AM

What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God. What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:

“So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge.”

Romans 3:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 4/22/2011 at 11:04 AM

But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

Romans 3:5-8


DougMacKenzie - 4/25/2011 at 06:25 PM

What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Romans 3:9-20


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2011 at 10:30 AM

But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Romans 3:21-24


DougMacKenzie - 4/27/2011 at 11:22 AM

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

Romans 3:25-26


DougMacKenzie - 4/29/2011 at 11:18 AM

Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Romans 3:27-31


DougMacKenzie - 4/30/2011 at 12:44 PM

What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, discovered in this matter? If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

Romans 4:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 5/1/2011 at 01:24 PM

Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

“Blessed are those
whose transgressions are forgiven,
whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the one
whose sin the Lord will never count against them.”

Romans 4:4-8


DougMacKenzie - 5/2/2011 at 01:59 PM

Is this blessedness only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We have been saying that Abraham’s faith was credited to him as righteousness. Under what circumstances was it credited? Was it after he was circumcised, or before? It was not after, but before! And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them. And he is then also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also follow in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.

Romans 4:9-12


DougMacKenzie - 5/3/2011 at 01:00 PM

It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless, because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

Romans 4:13-15


piacere - 5/3/2011 at 08:06 PM

still with ya, brother...


DougMacKenzie - 5/4/2011 at 11:25 AM

quote:
still with ya, brother...


Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

Romans 4:16-17


DougMacKenzie - 5/5/2011 at 06:41 PM

Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your offspring be.” Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead—since he was about a hundred years old—and that Sarah’s womb was also dead. Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. This is why “it was credited to him as righteousness.” The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

Romans 4:18-25


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2011 at 11:18 AM

Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.

Romans 5:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 5/7/2011 at 03:13 PM

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 5:6-8


DougMacKenzie - 5/9/2011 at 10:53 AM

Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Romans 5:9-11


DougMacKenzie - 5/10/2011 at 11:19 AM

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

Romans 5:12-17


DougMacKenzie - 5/11/2011 at 11:20 AM

Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Romans 5:18-19


DougMacKenzie - 5/12/2011 at 01:17 PM

The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5:20-21


DougMacKenzie - 5/13/2011 at 11:21 AM

What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Romans 6:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 5/16/2011 at 01:18 PM

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

Romans 6:5-7


DougMacKenzie - 5/17/2011 at 10:47 AM

Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

Romans 6:8-10

[Edited on 5/17/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 5/18/2011 at 11:17 AM

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 6:11-14


DougMacKenzie - 5/19/2011 at 11:19 AM

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

Romans 6:15-18


DougMacKenzie - 5/20/2011 at 03:58 PM

I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness.

Romans 6:19


piacere - 5/20/2011 at 08:02 PM

been praying for you, my brother. For this thread and the people I've seen post to it.

God bless.


DougMacKenzie - 5/21/2011 at 01:06 PM

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been praying for you, my brother. For this thread and the people I've seen post to it.

God bless.

Likewise my brother. There is a very special part of me that so eagerly anticipates our face to face meeting on yonder shore. Makes me smile every time I contemplate that moment.


DougMacKenzie - 5/23/2011 at 11:04 AM

When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:20-23


DougMacKenzie - 5/24/2011 at 11:24 AM

Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

Romans 7:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 5/25/2011 at 01:58 PM

So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

Romans 7:4


DougMacKenzie - 5/26/2011 at 08:57 PM

For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death.

Romans 7:5


DougMacKenzie - 5/27/2011 at 10:40 AM

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Romans 7:6


DougMacKenzie - 5/28/2011 at 04:36 PM

What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”

Romans 7:7


DougMacKenzie - 5/29/2011 at 11:50 AM

But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead.

Romans 7:8


DougMacKenzie - 5/30/2011 at 10:58 AM

Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.

Romans 7:9-12


DougMacKenzie - 5/31/2011 at 11:47 AM

Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.

Romans 7:13


DougMacKenzie - 6/1/2011 at 11:13 AM

We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.

Romans 7:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 6/2/2011 at 11:57 AM

And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.

Romans 7:16-18


DougMacKenzie - 6/3/2011 at 12:52 PM

For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

Romans 7:19-20


DougMacKenzie - 6/4/2011 at 01:03 PM

So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

Roamsn 7:21-25


RickyM - 6/4/2011 at 03:51 PM

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So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

Roamsn 7:21-25


What a true and powerful scripture ! It definitely spoke to my heart. Thank you !


DougMacKenzie - 6/5/2011 at 02:59 PM

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 6/6/2011 at 10:43 AM

For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Romans 8:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 6/7/2011 at 12:41 PM

Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 8:5-8


DougMacKenzie - 6/8/2011 at 12:48 PM

You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

Romans 8:9-11


piacere - 6/8/2011 at 04:23 PM

I thank God for His mercy, patience, forgiveness and understanding of how spiritually weak I can sometimes be. It's a slippery walk...


DougMacKenzie - 6/9/2011 at 12:57 PM

Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.



Romans 8:12-13

[Edited on 6/11/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 6/11/2011 at 01:42 PM

For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”

Romans 8:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 6/12/2011 at 05:52 PM

The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Romans 8:16-17


DougMacKenzie - 6/13/2011 at 10:13 AM

I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.

Romans 8:18


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2011 at 12:26 PM

For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

Romans 8:19-21


DougMacKenzie - 6/15/2011 at 02:20 PM

We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

Romans 8:22-25


DougMacKenzie - 6/16/2011 at 11:16 AM

In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

Romans 8:26-27


DougMacKenzie - 6/17/2011 at 03:01 PM

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Romans 8:28


DougMacKenzie - 6/18/2011 at 01:11 PM

For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

Romans 8:29-30


DougMacKenzie - 6/19/2011 at 11:20 AM

What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

Romans 8:31


DougMacKenzie - 6/20/2011 at 11:58 AM

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.

Romans 8:32-36


piacere - 6/20/2011 at 12:09 PM

reading along through Romans (thanks Doug )and it confirms how I sometimes feel going through life. There are times when I'll say something to someone, or do something or just generally be what isn't pleasing to both God and man or I'll feel physically or mentally or emotionally wiped out but the one constant in all of it is the love and understanding that Jesus Christ has for me. I take great comfort in certain things in my life; my grandchildren, fishing, friends...but there's nothing like knowing that Jesus Christ is there for me, always.


DougMacKenzie - 6/21/2011 at 12:54 PM

As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:36-39


DougMacKenzie - 6/22/2011 at 12:08 PM

I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit—I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

Romans 9:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 6/23/2011 at 12:15 PM

It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring. For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”

Romans 9:6-9


DougMacKenzie - 6/24/2011 at 01:06 PM

Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

Romans 9:10-13


DougMacKenzie - 6/25/2011 at 12:49 PM

What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

Romans 9:14-18


nmarch88 - 6/25/2011 at 10:59 PM

*BINGO*


DougMacKenzie - 6/26/2011 at 10:49 AM

One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

Romans 9:19-21

Nancy.


DougMacKenzie - 6/27/2011 at 12:35 PM

What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? As he says in Hosea:

“I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people;
and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”

and,

“In the very place where it was said to them,
‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”

Isaiah cries out concerning Israel:

“Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea,
only the remnant will be saved.
For the Lord will carry out
his sentence on earth with speed and finality.”

It is just as Isaiah said previously:

“Unless the Lord Almighty
had left us descendants,
we would have become like Sodom,
we would have been like Gomorrah.”

Romans 9:22-29


DougMacKenzie - 6/28/2011 at 11:27 AM

What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone. As it is written:
“See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall,
and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”

Romans 9:30-33


piacere - 6/28/2011 at 02:05 PM

quote:
What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

Romans 9:14-18


*BINGO* x2

Nancy!


DougMacKenzie - 6/29/2011 at 11:17 AM

Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Romans 10:1-4

[Edited on 6/30/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 6/30/2011 at 11:51 AM

Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.” But the righteousness that is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Romans 10:5-13


piacere - 6/30/2011 at 12:01 PM

the sweetest of words...


DougMacKenzie - 7/1/2011 at 11:55 AM

How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

Romans 10:14-15


DougMacKenzie - 7/2/2011 at 12:52 PM

But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:

“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”

Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,

“I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding.”

And Isaiah boldly says,

“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”

But concerning Israel he says,

“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”

Romans 10:16-21


DougMacKenzie - 7/3/2011 at 12:18 PM

I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

Romans 11:1-6


DougMacKenzie - 7/4/2011 at 11:53 AM

What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened,as it is written:

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”

And David says:

“May their table become a snare and a trap,
a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.”

Romans 11:7-10


DougMacKenzie - 7/5/2011 at 02:15 PM

Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

Romans 11:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 7/6/2011 at 01:47 PM

I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

Romans 11:13-16


DougMacKenzie - 7/7/2011 at 01:00 PM

If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

Romans 11:17-21


DougMacKenzie - 7/8/2011 at 02:28 PM

Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

Romans 11:22-24


DougMacKenzie - 7/9/2011 at 12:39 PM

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

Romans 11:25-27


DougMacKenzie - 7/11/2011 at 12:32 PM

As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Romans 11:28-32


DougMacKenzie - 7/12/2011 at 01:24 PM

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Romans 12:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 7/13/2011 at 12:24 PM

For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.

Romans 12:3


piacere - 7/13/2011 at 01:20 PM

hmmmm, I battle with that one occasionally but when I'm in complete awareness of my faith, God's grace is more than sufficient and keeps me humbled and in service to Him and others.


DougMacKenzie - 7/14/2011 at 01:15 PM

For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

Romans 12:4-5


DougMacKenzie - 7/15/2011 at 12:13 PM

We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

Romans 12:6-8


nmarch88 - 7/15/2011 at 10:57 PM

This has been so good! For me personally, chapter 8 - 11 of Romans gives us the key. When I'm struggling hard between spiritual and selfish I try to hold on to this teaching, not always very successfully I might add. Been waiting for you to get here. Thanks!

Hey Mark!


DougMacKenzie - 7/18/2011 at 01:11 PM

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Romans 12:9

Nancy


DougMacKenzie - 7/19/2011 at 01:11 PM

Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

Romans 12:10


DougMacKenzie - 7/20/2011 at 01:21 PM

Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.

Romans 12:11


DougMacKenzie - 7/21/2011 at 11:03 AM

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Romans 12:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 7/22/2011 at 10:50 AM

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.

Roman 12:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 7/24/2011 at 11:27 AM

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Romans 12:17-21


DougMacKenzie - 7/25/2011 at 11:03 AM

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Romans 13:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 7/26/2011 at 12:12 PM

This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Romans 13:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 7/27/2011 at 11:44 AM

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Romans 13:8-10


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:10 PM

And do this, understanding the present time: The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.

Romans 13:11-14


DougMacKenzie - 7/29/2011 at 01:52 PM

Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.

Romans 14:1


piacere - 7/29/2011 at 02:33 PM

quote:
Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.

Romans 14:1


this is one I'm dealing with much better these days...


DougMacKenzie - 7/30/2011 at 12:45 PM

One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

Romans 14:2-4


DougMacKenzie - 8/1/2011 at 12:27 PM

If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

Romans 14:15-18


DougMacKenzie - 8/2/2011 at 12:39 PM

Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.

Romans 14:19


piacere - 8/2/2011 at 01:35 PM

quote:
Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.

Romans 14:19


this one, I've got a pretty good grip on. It does wonders for me to boost someone else's faith and to tell him or her that I pray for them and that Jesus is loving and merciful and patient...I guess it falls into His teaching of the second most important thing we're taught, to love one another...


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2011 at 02:17 PM

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

Romans 14:20-21


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2011 at 01:11 PM

So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God.

Romans 14:22


piacere - 8/5/2011 at 01:21 PM

quote:
So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God.

Romans 14:22


another one I've come to accept and rely on...


DougMacKenzie - 8/6/2011 at 01:29 PM

Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

Romans 14:23


DougMacKenzie - 8/7/2011 at 12:13 PM

We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves. Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: “The insults of those who insult you have fallen on me.” For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.

Romans 15:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 8/8/2011 at 01:23 PM

May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you the same attitude of mind toward each other that Christ Jesus had,so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 15:5-6

[Edited on 8/9/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 8/9/2011 at 12:34 PM

Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.

Romans 15:7


DougMacKenzie - 8/10/2011 at 02:40 PM

For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:

“Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles;
I will sing the praises of your name.”

Again, it says,

“Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”

And again,

“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles;
let all the peoples extol him.”

And again, Isaiah says,

“The Root of Jesse will spring up,
one who will arise to rule over the nations;
in him the Gentiles will hope.”

Romans 15:8-12


bluedrummer - 8/11/2011 at 12:18 AM

"Every now and then you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you just look at it right."
Grateful Dead

I forget who said it "but the blues ain't nothin but a good man feeling bad"
The blues is what we all share,you can't describe it, you can only give yourself to the music and trust in the magic that is the blues..

This Family is a wondrous place to come to for whatever you need or feel like contributing; either way this is one of the few places where respect isn't just everyone's favorite Aretha song, but the "secret woid"(for you youngins out there ask your folks about the secret woid) you don't win $100, you get into the Family and stay in the Family and there is no price you can put on what this Family can do for your soul. You guys have pulled me through some of the darkest times of my life, and I thank the great spirit every night for the music and the magic, but mostly for giving me the strength to go another day and the good fortune of having loved a band with so many radiant souls for fans.
Peace on ya"ll, semper fi brother Joe I miss you dog; Ya'll keep on smilin ....well this old long haired hippie boy has rambled long enough, love to all here now and those who find their way here in the future.


DougMacKenzie - 8/11/2011 at 01:27 PM

Thanks blue. It never ceases to amaze me that I can feel so close to so many people I've never met or even spoken to. I get excited when I think of meeting all of you not in this world, but the next. That possiblity becomes more real for me every day; not a dream, or a nice thought, but an absolute possibility. I think someday I wll be certain of it. The more I contemplate those possibilities the more the cruel insanity of this world becomes unimportant to me and the more I am filled with the wonder and excitement of the next. Can't wait to see you all there.


bluedrummer - 8/11/2011 at 07:12 PM

Will the Circle Be Unbroken isn't just a beautiful song its the musical embodiment of what we all share. Doug what you are doing, be proud man, (humble but proud ya dig?)
"Once while travelin across the sky this lovely planet caught my eye.....we all'd forgotten we can fly"...apologies to Leon and Joe. I'm working hard to picture the world as if Love were man's base instinct rather than survival. one begets the other while the other forever limts the one. Its a trippy exercise but I got nothin but this moment so why not...Hmmm here's a thought, is our circle expanding in proportion to the expansion of the universe. Aldous Huxley once said something along the lines of after all of man's great achievements the only good advice we can pass along to the next generation is try to be a little kinder to each other.Well that works for me. It works for all of us . Well ya'll be good to yourselves, I have to go cancel my cellphone. I mean seriously how on earth did I live for 47 years without this annoyance in my pocket I can't believe how much I've wasted on the damn thins in the last ten years. So good luck with the strike Verizon but You won't be hearing me now ...or ever LOL...Think cool wet thoughts my southern peach heads, just think in a few years Dallas could be beachfront! (with apologies to Dr Thompson, I tend to ramble too) Hell as long as I'm thanking Dr's, my lifelong thanks to Dr. Pepper my elixir of choice. Ya'll have a grand weekend now!


DougMacKenzie - 8/12/2011 at 12:27 PM

I myself am convinced, my brothers and sisters, that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with knowledge and competent to instruct one another.

Romans 15:14


bluedrummer - 8/12/2011 at 09:31 PM

And don't let anyone tell you you can't be a Hoser without alcohol...eh....I"ve been an adopted one for years....soooo take off eh!.....Don't know what come over me. Never forget to laugh at least smile....This was a poor attempt but ya'll got to Keep on Smilin( I think Jimmy and the rest of Wet Willie get a free pass in the afterlife, just for that song...go ahead try and feel bad listening to that song, or that band.) Remember sobriety is fun, its a riot,,,,its achingly hard, but nobody stood on my head and made me drink et al....so you can sit or you can get up and stomp your feet or put your hands togetehr for this one.....forgive my horrible spelling I type worse than that legendary roomful of monkeys typing Shakespeare....have a geat evenin ya'll


DougMacKenzie - 8/13/2011 at 11:02 AM

My brother Bob thanks you.

Yet I have written you quite boldly on some points to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles. He gave me the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 15:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 8/15/2011 at 12:09 PM

Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God by what I have said and done— by the power of signs and wonders, through the power of the Spirit of God. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ. It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation. Rather, as it is written:

“Those who were not told about him will see,
and those who have not heard will understand.”

This is why I have often been hindered from coming to you.

Romans 15:17-22


piacere - 8/16/2011 at 05:50 PM

But now, since I no longer have any room for work in these regions, and since for many years I have longed to come to you, I hope to see you in passing as I go to Spain and to be helped on my journey there by you, once I have enjoyed your company for a while. At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem, bringing aid to the saints.

Romans 15: 23-25


DougMacKenzie - 8/17/2011 at 11:50 AM

Thanks Mark.

For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem. They were pleased to do it, and indeed they owe it to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings. So after I have completed this task and have made sure that they have received this contribution, I will go to Spain and visit you on the way. I know that when I come to you, I will come in the full measure of the blessing of Christ.

Romans 15:26-29


DougMacKenzie - 8/18/2011 at 10:27 AM

I urge you, brothers and sisters, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to join me in my struggle by praying to God for me. Pray that I may be kept safe from the unbelievers in Judea and that the contribution I take to Jerusalem may be favorably received by the Lord’s people there, so that I may come to you with joy, by God’s will, and in your company be refreshed. The God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Romans 15:30-33


DougMacKenzie - 8/19/2011 at 11:35 AM

I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

Romans 16:17-19


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 12:56 PM

quote:
I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

Romans 16:17-19


It always amuses me, if that's the right word, how some people will dismiss the writings and truths of the Bible because it was written 2,000 years ago by simple men, among other reasons, yet the teachings in it are as relevant today as they were back then. I guess it just boils down to faith and having hope in an unwavering God.


DougMacKenzie - 8/20/2011 at 01:13 PM

Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel, the message I proclaim about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all the Gentiles might come to the obedience that comes from[f] faith—to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.

Romans 16:25-27


DougMacKenzie - 8/21/2011 at 08:37 AM

Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,

To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:

Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 8/22/2011 at 10:52 AM

I always thank my God for you because of his grace given you in Christ Jesus. For in him you have been enriched in every way—with all kinds of speech and with all knowledge— God thus confirming our testimony about Christ among you. Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

1 Corinthians 1:4-9


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2011 at 10:39 AM

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

1 Corinthians 1:10


piacere - 8/23/2011 at 12:30 PM

21,600 views. Not many people posting here but it's great to know that many people come here on a daily basis to hear the word of God.
Doug, you truly are a blessing and your reward awaits...


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2011 at 11:16 AM

My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

1 Corinthians 1:11-17


DougMacKenzie - 8/25/2011 at 11:15 AM

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

1 Corinthians 1:18-19


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 12:53 PM

quote:
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

1 Corinthians 1:18-19


if ever there was a passage from the Bible that has withstood the test of time and is just as relevant today as it was then, this is it...


DougMacKenzie - 8/26/2011 at 02:20 PM

Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

1 Corinthians 1:20


DougMacKenzie - 8/28/2011 at 02:36 PM

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

1 Corinthians 1:21


DougMacKenzie - 8/29/2011 at 12:45 PM

Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

1 Corinthians 1:22-24


DougMacKenzie - 8/30/2011 at 12:41 PM

For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

1 Corinthians 1:25


DougMacKenzie - 8/31/2011 at 11:13 AM

Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 1:26-31


piacere - 8/31/2011 at 12:46 PM

awesome passage...


DougMacKenzie - 9/1/2011 at 12:50 PM

And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.

1 Corinthians 2:1=5


DougMacKenzie - 9/2/2011 at 11:14 AM

We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written:
“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:6-10


piacere - 9/2/2011 at 12:49 PM

I often wonder why He has revealed Himself to some and not to others but that is His will...I thank Him for calling me, of all people... and having Him give me the will to answer "yes".


DougMacKenzie - 9/4/2011 at 02:18 PM

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 2:11


DougMacKenzie - 9/5/2011 at 11:39 AM

What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.

1 Corinthians 2:12-13


DougMacKenzie - 9/6/2011 at 10:53 AM

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”

But we have the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:14-16


DougMacKenzie - 9/7/2011 at 10:54 AM

Brothers and sisters, I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?

1Corinthains 3:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 9/8/2011 at 12:43 PM

What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.

1 Corinthians 3:5-9


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2011 at 12:51 PM

By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.

1 Corinthians 3:9-15

Thought of piacere when I read this.

[Edited on 9/10/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 9/10/2011 at 11:08 PM

Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

1 Corinthains 3:16-17


DougMacKenzie - 9/12/2011 at 10:54 AM

Do not deceive yourselves. If any of you think you are wise by the standards of this age, you should become “fools” so that you may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”; and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” So then, no more boasting about human leaders! All things are yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.

1 Corinthians 3:18-23


bird72 - 9/13/2011 at 03:19 AM

To discuss all I could of the last two months in relation to God and Creator, I would fear to publically, and know some would see me as insane. I feel the need to note on this thread that I know God is real now, and I know what a spiritual awakening is now also. Doing research, I have found almost all religions acknowledge spiritual awakenings and the signs and meanings of are actually similar among many. To accept God Creator is to require accepting the supernatural, and higher planes of existence. If one can open the door or window to this, God can come. You must be pure of heart and reason. I go to Mass every week still, third month back now. But I have seen that Creator is not a Catholic God, but yet is. And every flavor religion and of God they all claim as theirs. Church is the church of man and God is far above that, and is many Gods to many peoples. It is humans that have used that fact for ill and greed and gain. I ramble, but while not offering up my experiences, which have been weekly, all must see for themselves, all I can say is where I believed in God, and felt there was a God, I now know Creator is there, actually in closer reach than I ever thought. I am blessed and feel an immense knowledge is at hand. Humbled is the state.

This thread is blessed and important and The Word is wisdom from the ages and all time and holy and divine. Keep up the good work, and as I learned, never, ever give up on God. But it will be on God's terms when He comes, not yours. Pardon me for using "Creator", for some reason I am growing fond of that. "God" has been weilded like a sword by so many self appointed messengers, it is for me nice to alternate.

finally, there are indeed angels, guides and special people with God Creator in their soul and hearts. Seek them out.


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2011 at 01:17 PM


piacere - 9/13/2011 at 03:10 PM

quote:
To discuss all I could of the last two months in relation to God and Creator, I would fear to publically, and know some would see me as insane. I feel the need to note on this thread that I know God is real now, and I know what a spiritual awakening is now also. Doing research, I have found almost all religions acknowledge spiritual awakenings and the signs and meanings of are actually similar among many. To accept God Creator is to require accepting the supernatural, and higher planes of existence. If one can open the door or window to this, God can come. You must be pure of heart and reason. I go to Mass every week still, third month back now. But I have seen that Creator is not a Catholic God, but yet is. And every flavor religion and of God they all claim as theirs. Church is the church of man and God is far above that, and is many Gods to many peoples. It is humans that have used that fact for ill and greed and gain. I ramble, but while not offering up my experiences, which have been weekly, all must see for themselves, all I can say is where I believed in God, and felt there was a God, I now know Creator is there, actually in closer reach than I ever thought. I am blessed and feel an immense knowledge is at hand. Humbled is the state.

This thread is blessed and important and The Word is wisdom from the ages and all time and holy and divine. Keep up the good work, and as I learned, never, ever give up on God. But it will be on God's terms when He comes, not yours. Pardon me for using "Creator", for some reason I am growing fond of that. "God" has been weilded like a sword by so many self appointed messengers, it is for me nice to alternate.

finally, there are indeed angels, guides and special people with God Creator in their soul and hearts. Seek them out.




Brother Doug knows of the nearly unbearable pain and heartbreak I'm going through these days. More than what I thought I could stand. But I'm standing. There's someone else that has pain far worse than mine...and I need to be there, standing on the Rock, as help and support. I won't bother with other threads in the coming days, they seem petty and small to me now. I will be here though, either posting or reading.
God is such a wonderful and big source of strength and compassion and trust and love. I thank Him daily for His Son, the Savior.


DougMacKenzie - 9/14/2011 at 02:05 PM

This, then, is how you ought to regard us: as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the mysteries God has revealed. Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful.

1 Corinthians 4:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 9/15/2011 at 01:12 PM

I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.

1 Corinthians 4:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 9/16/2011 at 01:18 PM

Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

1 Corinthians 4:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 9/17/2011 at 12:48 PM

Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have begun to reign—and that without us! How I wish that you really had begun to reign so that we also might reign with you For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment.

1 Corinthians 4:8-13


DougMacKenzie - 9/18/2011 at 02:36 PM

I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you as my dear children. Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. Therefore I urge you to imitate me. For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

1 Corinthians 4:14-17


DougMacKenzie - 9/19/2011 at 10:53 AM

Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?

1 Corinthians 4:18-21


piacere - 9/20/2011 at 01:09 PM

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among the pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

1Corinthians 5: 1-2


DougMacKenzie - 9/21/2011 at 12:05 PM

For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of his sinful state, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 5:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2011 at 01:28 PM

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20


DougMacKenzie - 9/23/2011 at 10:58 AM

Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. I say this as a concession, not as a command. I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

1 Corinthians 7:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 9/24/2011 at 11:10 AM

Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

1 Corinthians 7:8-16


DougMacKenzie - 9/25/2011 at 11:35 AM

Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.

1 Corinthians 7:17-20

[Edited on 9/26/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2011 at 10:39 AM

Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.

1 Corinthains 7:21-24


DougMacKenzie - 9/27/2011 at 01:20 PM

Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

1 Corijnthians 7:25-28


DougMacKenzie - 9/28/2011 at 10:44 AM

What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.

1 Corinthians 7:29-31


DougMacKenzie - 9/29/2011 at 12:36 PM

I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

1 Corinthains 7:32-35


DougMacKenzie - 9/30/2011 at 01:10 PM

If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married. 37 But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing. 38 So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but he who does not marry her does better.

1 Corinthians 7:36-38


DougMacKenzie - 10/1/2011 at 01:54 PM

A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord. In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is—and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:39-40


DougMacKenzie - 10/2/2011 at 08:48 PM

Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. But whoever loves God is known by God.

1 Corinthians 8:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 10/3/2011 at 10:57 AM

So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

1 Corinthians 8:4-6


DougMacKenzie - 10/4/2011 at 12:39 PM

But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

1 Corinthians 8:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 10/5/2011 at 01:09 PM

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.

1 Corinthians 8:9-13


DougMacKenzie - 10/6/2011 at 12:37 PM

Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord? Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 9:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 10/7/2011 at 12:41 PM

This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me. Don’t we have the right to food and drink? Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas? Or is it only I and Barnabas who lack the right to not work for a living?

1 Corinthians 9:3-6


DougMacKenzie - 10/8/2011 at 11:44 AM

Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more?

But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:7-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2011 at 02:34 PM

Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 10/10/2011 at 11:17 AM

But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast. For when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, since I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me. What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel.

1 Corinthians 9:15-18


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2011 at 10:47 AM

Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

1 Corinthians 9:19-23


piacere - 10/11/2011 at 12:24 PM

"...we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ".


DougMacKenzie - 10/12/2011 at 10:37 AM

Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27


piacere - 10/13/2011 at 01:28 PM

I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all of them were baptized into Moses, in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was the Christ.

1Corinthians 10:1-4


piacere - 10/14/2011 at 01:48 PM

Nevertheless, with most of them, God was not pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. Now these things took place as an example for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do not be idolaters, as some of them were, as it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play". We must not indulge in sexual immorality, as some of them did, and twenty three thousand fell in a single day. We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of ages has come. Therefore, let anyone who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

1Corinthians 10:5-12

[Edited on 10/14/2011 by piacere]


DougMacKenzie - 10/14/2011 at 01:50 PM


piacere - 10/14/2011 at 03:05 PM

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I left the next, and one of my favorite passages from God's Word, for you, brother.

Many times the passage to follow has bailed me out...

Absolutely amazing how God has lifted me from the man I was to the man He'd love for me to be. I am...a work in progress.

Has anyone heard from Nancy?


DougMacKenzie - 10/14/2011 at 03:27 PM

I did several months ago. I'll e-mail her and see how she is doing.


DougMacKenzie - 10/15/2011 at 12:09 PM

No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

1 Corinthains 10:13


nmarch88 - 10/16/2011 at 12:42 PM

Well, not sure what just happened. Trying to say I'm here, I'm always here. I meant it when I said this helps me get through. Did hear from Doug, that was a day brightener. Just trying to keep priorities straight. By the time I get here at night, it's usually late and I'm just too tired to even put a sentence together. I would have thought, and did, that since I had already raised two children, my experience would make the second time around easy. Not so. Don't have the energy I did when I was 30. Our God is good. He keeps me energetic enough to do what I need to do. I really love you guys. Thank you Mark for thinking of me. Ya'll are in my heart permanently and in my thoughts always.


DougMacKenzie - 10/16/2011 at 04:45 PM

Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry. I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.

1 Corinthians 10:14-17


DougMacKenzie - 10/17/2011 at 12:20 PM

Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?

1 Corinthians 10:19-22


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 12:37 PM

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Well, not sure what just happened. Trying to say I'm here, I'm always here. I meant it when I said this helps me get through. Did hear from Doug, that was a day brightener. Just trying to keep priorities straight. By the time I get here at night, it's usually late and I'm just too tired to even put a sentence together. I would have thought, and did, that since I had already raised two children, my experience would make the second time around easy. Not so. Don't have the energy I did when I was 30. Our God is good. He keeps me energetic enough to do what I need to do. I really love you guys. Thank you Mark for thinking of me. Ya'll are in my heart permanently and in my thoughts always.


I'm always thinking of you. I had my grandchildren this weekend too. The boy, 5 and the girl,3. It's tough, real tough. Everything gets out of whack. Sleep, eating, everything...and it's tiring. I'm 55, not 30 anymore either.
Anyway, it's nice to see you Nancy, you're forever in my prayers. God, the Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, is good and full of mercy and compassion and love.
Be blessed.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 12:39 PM

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No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

1 Corinthains 10:13


this is the first verse I ever had to memorize when I first left my old self behind and became born into God's kingdom.
Still one of my favorites...


DougMacKenzie - 10/18/2011 at 12:26 PM

“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.

1 Corinthians 10:23-24


DougMacKenzie - 10/19/2011 at 11:06 AM

Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”

1 Corinthians 10:25-26


DougMacKenzie - 10/20/2011 at 11:02 AM

If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?

1 Corinthians 10:27-30


DougMacKenzie - 10/21/2011 at 11:22 AM

So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

1 Corinthains 10:31-33


DougMacKenzie - 10/23/2011 at 12:14 PM

Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

1 Corinthians 11:1-6


DougMacKenzie - 10/24/2011 at 03:07 PM

A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.

1 Corinthains 11:7-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/25/2011 at 12:40 PM

Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.

1 Corinthians 11:13-16


DougMacKenzie - 10/26/2011 at 11:08 AM

In the following directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm than good. In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval. So then, when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, for when you are eating, some of you go ahead with your own private suppers. As a result, one person remains hungry and another gets drunk. Don’t you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God by humiliating those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? Certainly not in this matter!

1 Corinthians 11:17-22


DougMacKenzie - 10/27/2011 at 10:51 AM

For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

1 Corinthians 11:23-26


DougMacKenzie - 10/28/2011 at 10:55 AM

So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment. Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.

1 Corinthians 11:27-32


DougMacKenzie - 10/29/2011 at 03:10 PM

So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together. Anyone who is hungry should eat something at home, so that when you meet together it may not result in judgment.

And when I come I will give further directions.

1 Corinthians 11:33-34


DougMacKenzie - 10/30/2011 at 12:26 PM

Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed.You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols.Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2011 at 11:11 AM

There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

1 Corinthains 12:4-6


DougMacKenzie - 11/1/2011 at 11:13 AM

Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

1 Corinthians 12:7-11


DougMacKenzie - 11/2/2011 at 10:49 AM

Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

1 Corinthians 12:12-14


DougMacKenzie - 11/3/2011 at 11:07 AM

Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

1 Corinthians 12:15-19


DougMacKenzie - 11/4/2011 at 01:07 PM

The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

1 Corinthians 12:21-26


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2011 at 01:14 PM

Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.
And yet I will show you the most excellent way.

1 Corinthians 12:27-31


DougMacKenzie - 11/8/2011 at 01:36 PM

If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

1 Corinthians 13:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 11/9/2011 at 12:05 PM

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7


DougMacKenzie - 11/10/2011 at 01:58 PM

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

1 Corinthians 13:8-12


DougMacKenzie - 11/11/2011 at 12:01 PM

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

1 Corinthians 13:13


piacere - 11/13/2011 at 04:57 PM

...was going to go to 1Corinthians 14:1 but I'll wait on the author.

besides, that last post should hang around a while.

a long, long while...


DougMacKenzie - 11/15/2011 at 11:45 AM

Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church. I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.

1Corinthians 14:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 11/17/2011 at 02:55 PM

Need some prayers from my brothers and sisters here. One of my best friends since high school, and incredibly talented, creative, and intelligent guy, hung himself earlier this week. He struggled with alcoholism and could never quite see clear to humble himself and ask God for healing. The consequences of his choices continued to get worse over the years, and even though he had seen the miracle that took place in my life and the living witness that provided, and had the care and concern of many other people, he chose to end his life. Very sad day for me.


Enzo - 11/20/2011 at 09:13 PM

Doug ,

“The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.”
Numbers 6:24-26 NKJV


nmarch88 - 11/21/2011 at 12:10 AM

Keeping you close Doug.


piacere - 11/22/2011 at 04:03 PM

quote:
Need some prayers from my brothers and sisters here. One of my best friends since high school, and incredibly talented, creative, and intelligent guy, hung himself earlier this week. He struggled with alcoholism and could never quite see clear to humble himself and ask God for healing. The consequences of his choices continued to get worse over the years, and even though he had seen the miracle that took place in my life and the living witness that provided, and had the care and concern of many other people, he chose to end his life. Very sad day for me.


I'm sorry I'm just getting to this now, brother Doug.

my prayers for you and yours continue...


piacere - 11/22/2011 at 04:09 PM

Now brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching?

1Corinthians 14:6


piacere - 11/23/2011 at 03:01 PM

If even lifeless instruments, such as the flute or harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone know what is played? And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, how shall people prepare for battle?

1Corinthians 14:7-8

[Edited on 11/23/2011 by piacere]


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2011 at 12:50 PM

Thanks for taking over Mark. You are truly my brother in Christ.


piacere - 11/25/2011 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Thanks for taking over Mark. You are truly my brother in Christ.


and you, mine. You're a blessing.

"So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air"

1Corinthians 14:9


DougMacKenzie - 11/26/2011 at 02:43 PM

I feel the need to come in here and testify. I've had a really hard time the last two weeks since the suicide of my friend. I can't remember how many times I talked to him about what God had done in my life, how many times I prayed for God to open up this man's eyes and heart, to reveal himself to him clearly as he did me, to save him. I'm feeling frustrated and angry at my friend for leaving like that, and I miss him. What a waste. But I'm also feeling what I can only describe as frustration and anger with God also. I don't understand so many things that are going on, especially why so many good people who are trying to truly live by His word are suffering while so many "convienent Christians" are doing fine and treating others like crap. I don't understand the bitterness and anger that seems to be growing all around me, spreading like a fire. I know God is not required to clear his decisions with me, or submit his perfect plan for my review. Sometimes I wish I could see farther, or have more faith. I'm going through this with the full knowledge that God has delivered us at every turn, every time. Mark, I'm going to ask that you keep this thread going for a while. I think I just need to listen. This is what I heard this morning, just now:

Comfort, comfort my people,
says your God.
Speak tenderly to Jerusalem,
and proclaim to her
that her hard service has been completed,
that her sin has been paid for,
that she has received from the LORD’s hand
double for all her sins.
A voice of one calling:
“In the wilderness prepare
the way for the LORD;
make straight in the desert
a highway for our God.
Every valley shall be raised up,
every mountain and hill made low;
the rough ground shall become level,
the rugged places a plain.
And the glory of the LORD will be revealed,
and all people will see it together.
For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”

A voice says, “Cry out.”
And I said, “What shall I cry?”

“All people are like grass,
and all their faithfulness is like the flowers of the field.
The grass withers and the flowers fall,
because the breath of the LORD blows on them.
Surely the people are grass.
The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our God endures forever.”

You who bring good news to Zion,
go up on a high mountain.
You who bring good news to Jerusalem,
lift up your voice with a shout,
lift it up, do not be afraid;
say to the towns of Judah,
“Here is your God!”
See, the Sovereign LORD comes with power,
and he rules with a mighty arm.
See, his reward is with him,
and his recompense accompanies him.
He tends his flock like a shepherd:
He gathers the lambs in his arms
and carries them close to his heart;
he gently leads those that have young.

Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens?
Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket,
or weighed the mountains on the scales
and the hills in a balance?
Who can fathom the Spirit of the LORD,
or instruct the LORD as his counselor?
Whom did the LORD consult to enlighten him,
and who taught him the right way?
Who was it that taught him knowledge,
or showed him the path of understanding?

Surely the nations are like a drop in a bucket;
they are regarded as dust on the scales;
he weighs the islands as though they were fine dust.
Lebanon is not sufficient for altar fires,
nor its animals enough for burnt offerings.
Before him all the nations are as nothing;
they are regarded by him as worthless
and less than nothing.

With whom, then, will you compare God?
To what image will you liken him?
As for an idol, a metalworker casts it,
and a goldsmith overlays it with gold
and fashions silver chains for it.
A person too poor to present such an offering
selects wood that will not rot;
they look for a skilled worker
to set up an idol that will not topple.

Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
Has it not been told you from the beginning?
Have you not understood since the earth was founded?
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
He brings princes to naught
and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing.
No sooner are they planted,
no sooner are they sown,
no sooner do they take root in the ground,
than he blows on them and they wither,
and a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff.

“To whom will you compare me?
Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.
Lift up your eyes and look to the heavens:
Who created all these?
He who brings out the starry host one by one
and calls forth each of them by name.
Because of his great power and mighty strength,
not one of them is missing.

Why do you complain, Jacob?
Why do you say, Israel,
“My way is hidden from the LORD;
my cause is disregarded by my God”?
Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The LORD is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary
and increases the power of the weak.
Even youths grow tired and weary,
and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the LORD
will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles;
they will run and not grow weary,
they will walk and not be faint.

Isaiah 40


piacere - 11/26/2011 at 03:04 PM

my pleasure.

it's a slippery walk my friend. Stay on the path. I too feel sometimes that God is making some sort of mistake or isn't getting it quite right. But He's God, I'm Mark.

Isaiah is such a great book. God tells us in no uncertain terms just who He is.

that, my brother, is sufficient enough. As I think it's James says ( I'll have to look it up) "Don't think that when trials come your way, and they will, that it's some new thing".


"There are many different languages in the world and every different language has meaning. But if I don't understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me".

1Corinthians 14:10-11


piacere - 11/26/2011 at 03:28 PM

read the Book of James.

my brother, how I pray for you!

and thank you that you pray for me.


bird72 - 11/26/2011 at 04:10 PM

When what you feel is Divine Truth comes to you, in a dream or vision, in some state that was a spritual Communion with Creator God, what do you do? You have two choices..... accept It as a true Sign....... or question your own sanity. The natural course is to come up with every logiocal way to discount it. Then one can start questioning ones own sanity. Visions, Diivine Truth delivered as thought, not words, these can also be the signs of schizophrenia. Do you tell your friends? Risk their thoughts of your insanity? Post it on the internet? Or do you like most I suspect, file it away in your mind, shut up, on just go on?

Write down any experiences you see as mystical and holy. Leave interpretation for later, do not do that at first. Leave your window to Creator always open to invite any spiritual awakening. I will say it here, I have had an interesting year and I willl share one of the Truths I feel Creator has given me, and it will be blasphamy to some.

I go to Mass pretty regularly, skipped twice in six months. It has been a very special place, and is a supreme time to hear the word. It is my source for that, to be honest. And the Word is core, so I am reminded and taught. Is the Church the be all end all I hoped it was when I started back? No. It is important, but I found there must be a current, active Creator stance, and looking back to historic Holy words can actually be self limitimg if overdone. Aalways remember Church is the House of God, but it is also very much the House of Man. Never lose sight of that perspective.

But I feel I now Know something, due to a Gift of Knowledge. Creator is the term I prefer to use now. GOD is the official Name, of course. But GOD has been used by so many people in so many evil ways for self serving purpose of ego and man, that it has been left with less meaning and used to bullly and inspire fear, along with the million proper uses people do also. Creator is just a personal choice, I mean God, but it is organic, has not been misused like "God" has, and is more in line with the tie in I now feel to the importance of Creation.

But I feel Creator let me see a little secret. Creator is God. Is Jesus. Is Buddha. Krishna. Yahweh, Mohammed, Anuk, Shiva, Afjaa, Gitche Manitou, Anuak, Elaha, Holy Spirit, and the hundreds of others. The churches of many flavors are the way Creator has allowed man to have the peoples have an avenue and a window to Creator. We all are praying to the same Creator and many do not recognize it. Many do. It is True.


piacere - 11/28/2011 at 03:15 PM

Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church, that you seek to excel. Therefore, let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit and I will also sing with the understanding.

1Corinthians 14: 12-15


piacere - 11/29/2011 at 03:25 PM

Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified. I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; Yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
Bretheren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice, be babes but in understanding be mature.

1Corinthians 14:16-20


nmarch88 - 11/30/2011 at 02:10 AM

Doug - My first thought was, remember when John was in prison and sent his disciples to ask Jesus if He really was the one, or should they expect someone else, and Jesus' response was, "tell John, the blind receive sight, the lame walk...., but then I read your scripture from Isaiah, same point.

I could regale you with all kinds of scripture that you already know. I can definitely agree with you about all that we see in the world, and even the hardships we face. But in the end, all I have to offer is that God is in control, even when we can't comprehend.

I've been re reading the Shack. Oh so much good stuff in there.

I am comforted to know that you are not comfortable in your flesh. I will keep you in my prayers as always.

Mark, you are such a jewel!


Enzo - 11/30/2011 at 05:54 PM

Isaiah 41:10 (NIV)
So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.


DougMacKenzie - 11/30/2011 at 07:42 PM

Enzo! Great verse, and thanks folks. As in everything, these times are providing the opportunity to rely less on myself and my understanding and lean on God more. Everything in it's time and place.


piacere - 12/1/2011 at 03:47 PM

In the law it is written:"With men of other tongues and other lips I will speak to this people; and yet, for all that, they will not hear Me," says the Lord.
Therefore, tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe.
Therefore, if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind?
But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all.

1Corinthians 14: 21-24


piacere - 12/2/2011 at 02:26 PM

...and the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you. What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

1Corinthians 14: 25-26


piacere - 12/3/2011 at 02:39 PM

If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and let one interpret; but if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. And let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, let the first keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets, for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

1Corinthians 14: 27-33


piacere - 12/4/2011 at 04:42 PM

I've mentioned before how fantastic Charles Stanley, Ravi Zaccharius and Chuck Swindoll are, among many others, they just happen to be my three favorites, and today, Dr. Stanley preached and his message was based on the post above from Enzo. Good stuff. I highly recommend if anyone has a local Christian radio station, tune in to one of those three mentioned if you have the chance.

also, to anyone struggling with any trials or tribulations (who doesn't?) remember that "it came to pass" is mentioned 85 times in the Bible...there's a reason for that.

Have a blessed Sunday...


DougMacKenzie - 12/5/2011 at 11:36 AM

I've been praying for all the things I think I need to make it through this time. God tlad me this morning all I need is trust and faith in him. Why do I always forget that part?


nmarch88 - 12/5/2011 at 02:15 PM

Doug, I think we all forget that part sometimes. Pity us. We so limit ourselves by what we see and what we think. But it's all good. It's part of that sharpening you've talked to me about right? This is one of those times when I really wish I could convey all that I'm thinking,

" a thirll of hope, a weary world rejoices, for yonder breaks a new and glorious morn..."


piacere - 12/5/2011 at 03:44 PM

Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. Was it from you that the Word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. But let all things be done properly and in an orderly manner.

1Corinthians 14: 34-40


piacere - 12/6/2011 at 04:48 PM

Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures.

1Corinthians 15: 1-3


piacere - 12/7/2011 at 03:19 PM

...and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep, then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; and last of all, as it were to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. For I am the least of the apostles, who am not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God, I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain, but I labored more than all of them, yet not I but the grace of God with me.

1Corinthians 15: 4-10

[Edited on 12/7/2011 by piacere]


piacere - 12/8/2011 at 05:00 PM

Therefore, whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so you believe.

1Corinthians 15:11


Enzo - 12/9/2011 at 01:24 AM

Matthew 9:20-22 NKJV
And suddenly, a woman who had a flow of blood for twelve years came from behind and touched the hem of His garment. For she said to herself, “If only I may touch His garment, I shall be made well.” But Jesus turned around, and when He saw her He said, “Be of good cheer, daughter; your faith has made you well.” And the woman was made well from that hour...


DougMacKenzie - 12/9/2011 at 12:09 PM

"Your faith has made you well."

Thank you Father, for the gift of faith.


piacere - 12/9/2011 at 01:57 PM

Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, your faith also is vain. Moreover, we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we witnessed against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.

1Corinthians 15: 12-22


piacere - 12/10/2011 at 03:28 PM

But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that, those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

1Corinthians 15: 23-26


piacere - 12/11/2011 at 04:28 PM

For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection", it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. And when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that God may be all in all.

1Corinthians 15: 27-28


piacere - 12/12/2011 at 04:30 PM

Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them? Why also are we in danger every hour? I protest, brethren, by the boasting in you, which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, let us eat and drink for tomorrow we die. Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals". Become sober minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

1Corinthians 15: 29-34


piacere - 12/13/2011 at 02:30 PM

But someone will say, "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?"
You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or something else. But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.

1Corinthians 15: 35-38


piacere - 12/14/2011 at 03:55 PM

All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds and another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars, for star differs from star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body.

1Corinthians 15: 39-42


piacere - 12/15/2011 at 02:06 PM

it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
So it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul". The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. The first man is from the earth, earthy, the second man is from heaven.
As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.

1Corinthians 15: 43-48


piacere - 12/16/2011 at 02:18 PM

and just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold, I tell you a mystery, we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Corinthians 15: 49-53


Enzo - 12/17/2011 at 01:44 AM

Psalm 94:18-19
When I said, “My foot is slipping,” your unfailing love, LORD, supported me.
When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought me joy.


DougMacKenzie - 12/17/2011 at 02:48 PM

quote:
Psalm 94:18-19
When I said, “My foot is slipping,” your unfailing love, LORD, supported me.
When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought me joy.


Amen brother.


piacere - 12/17/2011 at 04:25 PM

But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory. O Death, Where Is Your Victory? O Death, Where Is Your Sting"? The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Corinthians 15: 54-57

Enzo thank you, brother.


Enzo - 12/18/2011 at 03:19 PM

Psalm 40:2-3 NKJ

"He also brought me up out of a horrible pit, Out of the miry clay, And set my feet upon a rock, And established my steps. He has put a new song in my mouth— Praise to our God; Many will see it and fear, And will trust in the LORD."


abb420 - 12/19/2011 at 08:23 AM


piacere - 12/19/2011 at 03:08 PM

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

1Corinthians 15: 58


piacere - 12/20/2011 at 02:29 PM

Brothers and Sisters, I hope you don't mind that I am going to forego 1Corinthians 16 and instead, in light of our celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in a few days, will this week focus on Luke 2: 1-14 up to and including Friday the 23rd and as a selfish sort of thing, Luke 2:11 is my second favorite Bible passage. (John 3:16)

Thanks.

Now it came about in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the Roman empire. This was the first census taken while Quirinius was governor of Syria. And all were proceeding to register for the census, everyone to his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth to Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and the family of David.

Luke 2: 1-4


DougMacKenzie - 12/20/2011 at 05:07 PM

This is from another thread, written by bird72:

Once you deem yourself worthy of accepting love unconditionally, in all it's forms from all who willingly give it, it then can enter inside you. Once you allow the love to come in, it finds a home and resides in you. As you continue to live this way, love will fill you as money in a bank, love in your soul. In time it will become you. It will radiate from you. It will draw people to you, and you will get more love. And at some point there just is no room for the dark, the negative, the self killing, and you will be a Creature of Creator, with a surplus of love to share with all. It really is that simple.


piacere - 12/21/2011 at 01:51 PM

bird

Doug

It's really something when a person gives up and allows God to take over. A surrendering to the power of God. It's tough to let go of our pride, ego and vanity but the more we let go, the more we let in.

back to the greatest event in mankind...

in order to register, along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and was with child. And it came about that while they were there, the days were completed for her to give birth.

Luke 2: 5-6


piacere - 12/22/2011 at 02:00 PM

And she gave birth to her first-born son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them at the inn. And in the same region there were some sheperds staying out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terribly frightened. And the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people...;

Luke 2: 7-10


piacere - 12/23/2011 at 01:39 PM

...and now, my brothers and sisters, for your viewing, spiritual and eternal pleasure, the greatest event in the history of the world, praise God for His unfailing love!

...for today in the city of David, there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths, and lying in a manger." And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased"

Luke 2: 11-14

Amen, Father in heaven, Amen.

Merry Christmas!!


DougMacKenzie - 12/23/2011 at 02:59 PM


DougMacKenzie - 12/24/2011 at 01:21 PM

]Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—

The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.
You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as warriors rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
For as in the day of Midian’s defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
Every warrior’s boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

Isaiah 9:1-7

Merry Christmas everybody.


piacere - 12/24/2011 at 02:16 PM

The birth of Christ is so much more than that and so much more than a holiday. It's God's love in the form of a man. His forgiveness, redemption, grace, mercy, power and love brought to us. What a gift!

I heard on the radio yesterday something pretty funny and poignant. Maybe you've heard this; a pastor was telling the story of a little girl whose parents were too busy to play with her at Christmas time. As she prayed that night she prayed, "God, forgive us our Christmases as we forgive those who Christmas against us".


piacere - 12/27/2011 at 02:55 PM

Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things.

Philippians 4:8


piacere - 12/29/2011 at 02:27 PM

I'm feeling a little under the spiritual weather these days. 2011 wasn't a terribly good year and it's ending is even worse, been having a real tough time with a certain person in/out of my life. I guess it's all a blessing and works out to the good of God's will, though sometimes it hurts something fierce. We can never wrap our feeble minds around even a smidgin of God's wisdom and yet we try...in vain. I guess it all (and when I say "it", I mean life itself and everything in it) boils down to trusting His wisdom, His grace, His trustworthiness and His love...and taking another step.

sometimes I get so tired....but on I go. Thanks for your prayers this past year, I keep you all in mine.


nmarch88 - 12/30/2011 at 01:42 AM

Amen Brother, different circumstances but the same feeling. Trust in Him....and take another step. Yep, just that simple. Just not so easy all the time.

And you will remain in my prayers.

Love ya!


DougMacKenzie - 12/30/2011 at 01:33 PM

Amen, brothers and sisters.

Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 5:1-8


piacere - 12/30/2011 at 07:41 PM

I've always loved that passage from Scripture. It has lifted me up more than once.

Nancy!


piacere - 12/31/2011 at 02:26 PM

as this year closes out, and as a testimony to Doug especially, as well as all contributors to this thread:

"...give attention to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation and teaching..."

1Timothy 4:13


piacere - 1/2/2012 at 02:28 PM

What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we beheld and our hands handled, concerning the Word of Life -- and the life was manifested, and we have seen and bear witness and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us --what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, that you also may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son, Jesus Christ.

1John 1: 1-3


piacere - 1/3/2012 at 02:16 PM

And these things we write, so that our joy made be made complete. And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

1John 1: 4-7


piacere - 1/4/2012 at 02:07 PM

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

1John 1:8-10

Amen. Thank you Father in Heaven.


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2012 at 12:09 PM


piacere - 1/5/2012 at 01:49 PM

My little children, I am writing these things to you that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

1John 2:1


piacere - 1/6/2012 at 02:25 PM

and He Himself is the propriation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, "I have come to know Him", and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

1John 2: 2-6

Thank you Father. Keep us on the path.


piacere - 1/7/2012 at 02:30 PM

Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard. On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining.

1John 2: 7-8


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2012 at 01:17 PM

I just wanted to say thanks to all my brothers and sisters here who offered up their prayers and support for me over the suicide of my friend. It really does matter, and it really means a lot.


piacere - 1/8/2012 at 03:04 PM

quote:
I just wanted to say thanks to all my brothers and sisters here who offered up their prayers and support for me over the suicide of my friend. It really does matter, and it really means a lot.


the prayers of a righteous man are powerful and effective...

The one who says he is in the light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now. The one who loves his brother abides in the light and there is no cause for stumbling in him. But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes. I am writing to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name's sake.

1John 2: 9-12


piacere - 1/9/2012 at 02:39 PM

I am writing to you fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I have written to you, children, because you know the Father. I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one. Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1John 2:13-15


piacere - 1/10/2012 at 03:00 PM

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever.

1John 2: 16-17


piacere - 1/11/2012 at 03:11 PM

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard anti-christ is coming, even now, many anti-christs have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us, but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us.
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

1John 2: 18-21


piacere - 1/12/2012 at 03:01 PM

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the anti-christ, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also. As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise which He Himself made to us: eternal life.

1John 2: 22-25


DougMacKenzie - 1/13/2012 at 11:55 AM


sonnystang - 1/13/2012 at 12:02 PM

Thanks piacere for keeping things going.......


piacere - 1/13/2012 at 02:31 PM

These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you. And as for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. And now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears, we may have confidence and not shrink away from Him in shame at His coming. If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone also who practices righteousness is born of Him.

1John 2: 26-29

---you're welcome. It's actually my pleasure.


piacere - 1/14/2012 at 05:26 PM

See how great a love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.

1John 3:1


piacere - 1/15/2012 at 03:38 PM

Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that, when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him just as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

1John 3:2-8

Brothers and Sisters, the key word in this passage is "practice". We all sin and fall short of the glory of God but praise His name, He sent His Son as the atonement for sin. There is an eternal difference between committing a sin and practicing sin. Fret not, by His grace we are saved! Thank you, precious Jesus.


DougMacKenzie - 1/16/2012 at 11:16 AM


piacere - 1/16/2012 at 03:29 PM

No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother. For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1John 3: 9-11


piacere - 1/17/2012 at 02:36 PM

...not as Cain, who was of the evil one, and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother's were righteous. Do not marvel, brethren, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. We know love by this; that He laid down His life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him? Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth. We shall know by this that we are of the truth, and shall assure our heart before Him.

1John 3: 12-19

"assure our heart before Him". What a glorious and hopeful thing it is to know that God, who sees our hearts more than we ourselves can, gives us the assurance of eternal life through His Son.

Thank you Father in Heaven. Keep the faith brothers and sisters, pray, do good in His name.


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2012 at 07:49 PM


piacere - 1/18/2012 at 02:15 PM

I'm switching over to my Bible now, the NIV, so pardon what might appear to be different wording...going to overlap 1John 3:19. Thanks.

This then is how we know we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence (20) whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and He knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from Him anything we ask because we obey His commands and do what pleases Him. And this is His command: to believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as He commanded us.

1John 3: 19-23


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 03:06 PM

Those who obey His commands live in Him, and He in them. And this is how we know He lives in us: We know it by the Spirit He gave us.

1John 3:24


piacere - 1/20/2012 at 05:43 PM

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God...

1John 4:1-2


piacere - 1/21/2012 at 01:56 PM

but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.

1John 4: 3-4


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2012 at 03:11 PM


piacere - 1/22/2012 at 02:58 PM

They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

1John 4: 5-6


piacere - 1/23/2012 at 04:24 PM

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

1John 4: 7-10


piacere - 1/24/2012 at 02:07 PM

Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has beheld God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. And we have beheld and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him and he in God.

1John 4: 11-15

"The Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world"

What a gift. For the likes of me, God sent His Son. It's overwhelming to think that God Himself would send His Son...for me. Thank you Father in Heaven.


piacere - 1/25/2012 at 02:04 PM

And we have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us.God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this, love is perfected with us, that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.

1John 4: 16-17


DougMacKenzie - 1/25/2012 at 06:49 PM

quote:
And we have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us.God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this, love is perfected with us, that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.

1John 4: 16-17



Great verse.


piacere - 1/26/2012 at 01:56 PM

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love because He first loved us. If someone says, "I love God", and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.

1John 4: 18-21


piacere - 1/27/2012 at 02:30 PM

Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God; and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith.

1John 5:1-4


DougMacKenzie - 1/27/2012 at 07:50 PM


piacere - 1/28/2012 at 02:47 PM

quote:



wait...it gets better....

And who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? This is the one who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only but with the water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth. For there are three that bear witness, the Spirit and the water and the blood.; and the three are in agreement. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for the witness of God is this, that He has borne witness concerning His Son. The one who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the witness that God has borne concerning His Son. (Here's the best part!) And the witness is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

1John 5: 5-11

"given us". Imagine, He gave this promise of eternal life, His Son, to the likes of me.
My God, thank you for your Son...


piacere - 1/29/2012 at 03:52 PM

He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

1John 5: 12-13


piacere - 1/30/2012 at 03:24 PM

no person, no thing, no other entity on this planet gives me greater joy, hope and promise than God's Word...the comfort and love in His Word is greater than anything.

" And this is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him."

1John 5: 14-15

"confidence".


piacere - 1/31/2012 at 02:18 PM

If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death. We know that no one who is born of God sins, but He who was born of God keeps him and the evil one does not touch him.

1John 5: 16-18


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 02:45 PM

We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding, in order that we might know Him who is true, and we are in Him who is true, in His Son, Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

1John 5: 19-21


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2012 at 02:47 PM


piacere - 2/2/2012 at 02:47 PM

Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.

2Peter 1: 1-3

"...our God and Savior, Jesus Christ..."


piacere - 2/3/2012 at 02:14 PM

For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, in order that by them you might become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge; and in your knowledge, self control, and in your self control, perserverance, and in your perserverance; godliness, and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness; love.

2Peter 1: 4-7

I truly believe and in time, have come to fully know, that God, knowing me better than I know myself, has given me the gift of accepting His Word as just and true and the way to life. Thank you Father for opening my eyes and my heart to you, your Son and the Spirit of truth...


DougMacKenzie - 2/4/2012 at 01:29 PM


piacere - 2/4/2012 at 02:45 PM

For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble.

2Peter 1: 8-10

Imagine, He chose me...and you. Be diligent in your certainty by practicing what eventually amounts to love.

I get burdened sometimes. Old friends gone, family issues, emotional/mental thoughts and weights dragging me down, finances...just life in general. Then I pray; I remember what my Savior went through...for me...and I get right with Him...and I take another step.

Thank you Jesus.


piacere - 2/4/2012 at 02:47 PM

allow me to add what a blessing it has been in my life to have DougMacKenzie in it.

many times for many years you have been there for me, brother.

when we meet at the great feast, can't wait to shake hands with you.


piacere - 2/5/2012 at 03:10 PM

for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you. Therefore, I shall always be ready to remind you of these things, even though you already know them, and have been established in the truth which is present with you. And I consider it right, as long as I am in this earthly dwelling, to stir you up by way of reminder...

2Peter 1:11-13


piacere - 2/6/2012 at 02:18 PM

knowing that the laying aside of my earthly dwelling is imminent, as also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. And I will also be diligent that at any time after my departure you may be able to call these things to mind. For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty.

2Peter 1:14-16


piacere - 2/7/2012 at 02:39 PM

For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, "This is my beloved Son with whom I am well pleased"--- and we ourselves heard this utterance made from Heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. And so we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

2Peter 1: 17-21

I can't say enough good things about Chuck Swindoll and Charles Stanley. Listening to them has enriched my walk tremendously. God bless them.

Any one of us could consider themselves to be an unimportant part of the church's body but when even the slightest pain comes, to use Chuck Swindoll's analogy, a duct leading to the pancreas (his daughter Colleen has this problem) the tiniest of body members, gets clogged, then the whole body aches.

same with you and me. If one of us breaks down and isn't functioning properly, we all hurt. Let's keep ourselves in prayer...


piacere - 2/8/2012 at 02:06 PM

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

2Peter 2:1


piacere - 2/9/2012 at 03:12 PM

And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

2Peter 2: 2-3


piacere - 2/10/2012 at 03:03 PM

For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter; and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day with their lawless deeds) then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment...

2Peter 2: 4-9


piacere - 2/12/2012 at 02:59 PM

and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties, whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.

2Peter 2: 10-11


piacere - 2/13/2012 at 02:26 PM

But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed...

2Peter 2:12


piacere - 2/14/2012 at 02:44 PM

...suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you, having eyes full of adultery and that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children; forsaking the right way they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness...

2 Peter 2: 13-15


piacere - 2/15/2012 at 03:16 PM

but he received a rebuke for his own transgression; for a dumb donkey, speaking with the voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet. These are springs without water, and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved.

2Peter 2: 16-17


piacere - 2/16/2012 at 02:04 PM

For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from those who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption, for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.

2Peter 2:18-19

...there's a lot of that goin' around...


piacere - 2/17/2012 at 02:25 PM

For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them.

2Peter 2: 20-21


piacere - 2/18/2012 at 02:37 PM

It has happened to them according to the true proverb, "A dog returns to its own vomit", and, "A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire".

2Peter 2: 22


DougMacKenzie - 2/19/2012 at 03:49 PM

Thanks for keeping this going Mark. Hope everyone is doing well.


piacere - 2/19/2012 at 03:52 PM

This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you in which I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles.

2Peter 3: 1-2


piacere - 2/21/2012 at 02:00 PM

Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation". For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water...

2Peter 3:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 2/22/2012 at 12:01 PM

The most beautiful thing in life is how God always shows up, just in the nick of time, and provides for us just what we need, just when we need it most, so that our needs are provided for and we are drawn closer to him. Never fails. Never.


piacere - 2/22/2012 at 01:58 PM

quote:
The most beautiful thing in life is how God always shows up, just in the nick of time, and provides for us just what we need, just when we need it most, so that our needs are provided for and we are drawn closer to him. Never fails. Never.


I've been saved 18 years this June, went cold turkey off heroin and booze from one day being wasted to the next day dryin' out and haven't touched a thing since, which in itself was and is a miracle. In those 18 years God has shown up at EVERY...SINGLE...TIME when I needed Him to be there. It defies logic, which is what it's designed to do anyway...

"...through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But the present heavens and earth by His word are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

2Peter 3:6-7


piacere - 2/23/2012 at 03:00 PM

But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

2Peter 3: 8-10


piacere - 2/25/2012 at 02:27 PM

Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless...

2Peter 3: 11-14


piacere - 2/26/2012 at 03:06 PM

...and regard the patience of our Lord to be salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of Scriptures, to their own destruction.

2Peter 3: 15-16


piacere - 2/27/2012 at 01:25 PM

Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

2Peter 3:17-18

"grow in the grace and knowledge"

well, that closes out 2Peter. For those who may have any questions concerning recent discussions here and out in the world, I'm going to, hopefully with your okay, quote from Matthew 5,6 and 7; Jesus' Sermon on the Mount. For me and to many Christians, those three chapters are pretty much the answer.

see you tomorrow, with God's grace.


piacere - 2/28/2012 at 02:27 PM

And when He saw the crowd, He went up on the mountain; and after He sat down, His disciples came to Him. And He began to teach, saying, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven..."

Matthew 5: 1-3


piacere - 2/29/2012 at 02:24 PM

"...Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted, Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth, Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled, Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy..."

Matthew 5: 4-7


piacere - 3/1/2012 at 03:34 PM

"Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be gald, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

Matthew 5 : 8-12

The Beatitudes


piacere - 3/2/2012 at 03:35 PM

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead, they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let you light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."

Matthew 5: 13-16

"You are the light of the world"...


piacere - 3/3/2012 at 02:57 PM

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

Matthew 5: 17-18


DougMacKenzie - 3/3/2012 at 07:03 PM

I love the book of Matthew, probably my favorite book of the Bible.


piacere - 3/4/2012 at 02:24 PM

"Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven".

Matthew 5: 19-20


piacere - 3/5/2012 at 02:54 PM

"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment'. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca', is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Matthew 5: 21-22


piacere - 3/6/2012 at 02:00 PM

"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First, go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift."

Matthew 5: 23-24


piacere - 3/6/2012 at 02:09 PM

quote:
I love the book of Matthew, probably my favorite book of the Bible.



my favorite book of the Bible changes sort of monthly. Job has always been a steady front-runner. Just about anything New Testament. Psalms. Dear God, Psalms!

To anyone reading along...I got some good news yesterday concerning the missions work I've been wanting to do. Nothing concrete or definitive...but a glimmer of hope.


piacere - 3/7/2012 at 03:16 PM

"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."

Matthew 5:25-26


piacere - 3/8/2012 at 05:10 PM

sorry about the different wording today, I'm using a New American Standard Bible...

"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery', but I say to you that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you, for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell".

Matthew 5: 27-29


piacere - 3/9/2012 at 02:13 PM

"And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
It has been said 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce'. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery."

Matthew 5: 30-32


piacere - 3/11/2012 at 02:18 PM

"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord'. But I tell you, Do not swear at all; either by heaven, for it is God's throne, or by the earth, for it is His footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes', and your 'No','No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one."

Matthew 5: 33-37


piacere - 3/12/2012 at 01:18 PM

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth'. But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

Matthew 5: 38-42


DougMacKenzie - 3/12/2012 at 01:18 PM


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piacere - 3/13/2012 at 01:16 PM

yeah...well...I started a thread about it. I really hope you don't mind. Maybe I should've asked first but that's me, do something...then ask later. Anyway, you're the bomb diggitty MacKenzie, so I figured, the heck with asking, I'm just doin' it.


piacere - 3/13/2012 at 01:23 PM

"You have heard that it was said,'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy'. But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Matthew 5: 43-48

p.s. "Letters from Texas" was awesome.


piacere - 3/14/2012 at 01:51 PM

"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your right hand know what your left hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6: 1-4


piacere - 3/15/2012 at 02:25 PM

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6: 5-6


DougMacKenzie - 3/16/2012 at 11:48 AM


piacere - 3/16/2012 at 02:11 PM

"And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. This, then, is how you should pray:

'Our Father in Heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one'.

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins".

Matthew 6: 7-15

---when I first became a Christian, 18 years ago this June, an elder of the church I attended gave me a tip to praying: A.C.T.S. "A", adore Him, "C", confess, "T", thanksgiving, "S", supplication (needs). I've used that since then...

prayer is the way to God, through Christ. Pretty awesome.


piacere - 3/17/2012 at 03:17 PM

"When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6: 16-18


piacere - 3/18/2012 at 03:24 PM

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

Matthew 6: 19-21


DougMacKenzie - 3/19/2012 at 10:32 AM


piacere - 3/19/2012 at 02:24 PM

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

Matthew 6:22-24


piacere - 3/20/2012 at 02:11 PM

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?"

Matthew 6: 25-27


DougMacKenzie - 3/21/2012 at 11:08 AM


piacere - 3/21/2012 at 01:49 PM

"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?"

Matthew 6: 28-30


piacere - 3/22/2012 at 02:36 PM

"So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

Matthew 6:31-34


DougMacKenzie - 3/24/2012 at 11:58 AM

I love these verses out of Matthew, and return to them often. The Israelites in the desert with Moses only got enough manna from heaven to sustain them for one day at a time. Just let the worries of today be enough for today. Amen.


piacere - 3/25/2012 at 02:57 PM

yeah...no matter what the issue or situation, good, bad or indifferent, the answer is always there. It really is amazing...

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Matthew 7: 1-2


piacere - 3/26/2012 at 01:06 PM

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
(here is one of my favorite passages and something I've fully learned only recently)
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."

He is talking of course about spiritual pearls of wisdom and how they should not be wasted on those who have no regard for them at all or who twist and distort them to their own satisfaction and ultimately their own destruction...

Matthew 7: 3-6

[Edited on 3/26/2012 by piacere]


piacere - 3/28/2012 at 12:51 PM

"Ask and it will be given to you, seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

Matthew 7: 7-8

We have to go beyond the words on the pages. The fruit we bear, in all that we do, is the manifestation of our relationship with Christ.

crayola crayons notwithstanding.


DougMacKenzie - 3/29/2012 at 01:18 PM

"For whoever asks, receives."


piacere - 3/29/2012 at 04:18 PM

"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Matthew 7: 9-12

been listening to Charles Stanley and Chuck Swindoll. Two awesome preachers; the best I've ever heard.


piacere - 3/30/2012 at 02:01 PM

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Matthew 7: 13-14

Dear Jesus,
How true your words are! However, you forgot to mention that very same road has pot holes, is slippery and quite long. Perhaps we can discuss this minor detail upon my arrival into your glorious kingdom. Until then, I remain your humble servant.

Mark


piacere - 3/31/2012 at 02:32 PM

"Watch out for false prophets..."

Matthew 7:15...


piacere - 4/1/2012 at 04:59 PM

folks...it was learned a few days ago that my son's mother (we never married though have remained friends for 30 some odd years...) has a mass on her lung. I sincerely ask that you keep this God loving woman in your prayers.

Thanks so much.


DougMacKenzie - 4/2/2012 at 12:40 PM

You got it Mark. So sorry to hear this.


piacere - 4/2/2012 at 03:40 PM

thanks Doug...and anyone else.

"...They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit."

Matthew 7:15-18


piacere - 4/3/2012 at 02:07 PM

Brothers and Sisters, if you all don't mind, we're going to leave Matthew 'til next Monday and instead focus in on the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, celebrating Easter Week.

Dying a miserable, painful and undignified death on the cross, Jesus made seven statements, they are known as "The Seven Words".

They are:

"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."
Luke 23:34
"Truly I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise."
Luke 23:43
Jesus said to His mother, "Woman, this is your son" then to the disciple, (John) "This is your mother."
John 19:26-27
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Mark 15-34
"I thirst"
John 19-28
When Jesus had recieved the wine He said, "It is finished" and He bowed His head and handed over the Spirit.
John 19-30
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit."
Luke 23-46

Thank you, Jesus. For me, you suffered. For me, you have risen.




piacere - 4/4/2012 at 02:25 PM

Jesus appears to the disciples...

Then He opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high."

Luke 24:45-49


piacere - 4/5/2012 at 01:37 PM

"Easter is not just a holiday or a season, it's a way of life."

---Dr. Charles Stanley


piacere - 4/8/2012 at 02:19 PM

Happy Easter, my brothers and sisters. Take great joy and comfort that our Savior has overcome the grave, has risen to be seated at the right hand of our Father, where all authority has been given to Him and whoever believes in Him will never die.

Amen. Thank you, Jesus.


DougMacKenzie - 4/9/2012 at 12:54 AM

Amen broither. Happy Easter.


piacere - 4/9/2012 at 02:36 PM

back to Matthew and the Word of our Savior...

"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit, you will recognize them.
Not everyone who says to me,'Lord,Lord', will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven".

Matthew 7:19-21

"Be persistent in prayer. In spiritual warfare, there is no cease fire".

---Dr. Michael Yousef


DougMacKenzie - 4/11/2012 at 11:09 AM

Here's one I really needed to hear today:

Why do you complain, Jacob?
Why do you say, Israel,
“My way is hidden from the LORD;
my cause is disregarded by my God”?
Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The LORD is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary
and increases the power of the weak.
Even youths grow tired and weary,
and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the LORD
will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles;
they will run and not grow weary,
they will walk and not be faint.

Isaiah 40:27-31


piacere - 4/11/2012 at 01:47 PM




"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord', did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers."

Matthew 7:22-23

"God is not concerned with whether or not we've practiced religion. He wants us to love His Son."

---Dr. Michael Yousef


piacere - 4/12/2012 at 07:16 PM

"Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock."

Matthew 7:24


piacere - 4/13/2012 at 01:24 PM

"(Old Testament) Prophets comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable"

---Chuck Swindoll

"The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall because it had its foundation upon the rock."

Matthew 7:25


piacere - 4/13/2012 at 01:37 PM

the difference between how things actually happened, the truth, (the prophets), and what some wanted others to hear...

This is a true story....

In 1889, a man named Remus Starr was hanged in Montana for horse stealing and train robbery. On the back of the only known picture of him, noose around his neck, standing on the gallows, is this inscription: "Remus Starr, caught in Montana territory in 1885 for horse stealing and train robbery. He escaped from the Montana prison in 1887 and continued to steal and rob. In 1889, was caught, tried, convicted and hanged for his crimes."

Some years later, a family member wrote this about him: "Remus Starr, a man who acquired great wealth in his equestrian dealings and intimate relationship with the Northern Pacific railroad. After spending some time with the Montana penitentiary system, he decided to leave there to resume his equestrian business and dealings with the Northern Pacific. He came to an untimely death when at a civic function, held in his honor, the platform upon which he was standing, collapsed."

The truth...and then what we're told what we think others want us to hear.

Discernment my friends, discernment.


DougMacKenzie - 4/14/2012 at 11:50 AM


piacere - 4/14/2012 at 02:26 PM

"But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."
When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.

Matthew 7: 26-29

...and so ends Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, some of the greatest words ever spoken.


piacere - 4/16/2012 at 02:57 PM

for the next few days and with no timeline or definitive course, some verses from Hebrews...

Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

Hebrews 11:1


piacere - 4/18/2012 at 05:49 PM

We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. For if the message spoken by angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation?

Hebrews 2: 1-3


piacere - 4/19/2012 at 01:16 PM

Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.

Hebrews 10:23


piacere - 4/20/2012 at 04:21 PM

But we are not of them that draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Hebrews 10:39 (KJV)


piacere - 4/21/2012 at 02:09 PM

Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

Hebrews 12:14


piacere - 4/22/2012 at 05:46 PM

But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness.

Hebrews 3:13


piacere - 4/23/2012 at 01:54 PM

Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise---the fruit of lips that confess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

Hebrews 13:15-16


DougMacKenzie - 4/23/2012 at 06:13 PM


piacere - 4/26/2012 at 02:38 PM

sorry for the absence...been a little busy with stuff...

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline) [authors parentheses] then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.

Hebrews 12: 7-8

Brothers and Sisters, there is no doubt that I am a true son...


DougMacKenzie - 4/26/2012 at 03:59 PM

quote:
sorry for the absence...been a little busy with stuff...

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline) [authors parentheses] then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.

Hebrews 12: 7-8

Brothers and Sisters, there is no doubt that I am a true son...

Love this verse!


piacere - 4/27/2012 at 01:05 PM

Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits , and live?

Hebrews 12: 9 (KJV)

I'm sorry if the wording occasionally changes, though the interpretations differ minimally. I have three Bibles and don't use my NIV all the time.


piacere - 4/28/2012 at 01:52 PM

For this reason he {Jesus} had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.

Hebrews 2:17


piacere - 4/30/2012 at 12:58 PM

our journey passes through the cross. I pray we keep our relationship with our Lord and Savior, the redeemer of sin, the way to life, intact and pleasing to Him. I also pray that any barriers keeping us from Him are removed and we can live our lives with Him as the center of our being.

Amen.


piacere - 5/4/2012 at 03:30 PM

But when this priest (Jesus) had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time, He waits for His enemies to made His footstool, because by one sacrifice He has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

Hebrews 10: 12-14


piacere - 5/5/2012 at 05:37 PM

Keep on loving each other as brothers.

Hebrews 13:1


DougMacKenzie - 5/8/2012 at 01:08 PM

quote:
Keep on loving each other as brothers.

Hebrews 13:1




Keeping you nad your family in our prayers brother. Just remember, it's already worked out for the best, we just have toi catch up to it all.


piacere - 5/8/2012 at 01:22 PM

I guess that's why we're told that it's a marathon and to run the good race to the end...

thanks brother.

I'm going to do 2Thessalonians from here to it's glorious conclusion, starting today.

Paul, Silas and Timothy, to the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace and peace to you from God the Father and Lord Jesus Christ.

We ought always to thank God for you, brothers, and rightly so, because your faith is growing more and more, and the love every one of you has for each other is increasing.

2Thessalonians 1: 1-3


piacere - 5/9/2012 at 01:41 PM

Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God's judgment is right, and as a result, you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you...

2Thessalonians 1: 4-6


piacere - 5/10/2012 at 01:37 PM

...and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with His powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

2Thessalonians 1: 7-8


piacere - 5/13/2012 at 03:01 PM

They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.

2Thessalonians 1: 9-10


piacere - 5/14/2012 at 01:58 PM

With this in mind, we constantly pray for you, that our God may count you worthy of his calling, and that by his power he may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. We pray this so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Thessalonians 1:11-12


DougMacKenzie - 5/15/2012 at 11:20 AM


piacere - 5/15/2012 at 02:07 PM

I'd imagine, or at least would like to think, that our Lord and Savior is as pleased with a smiley face after His Word being posted as He is with the Word itself...in fact, I'm sure it pleases Him greatly....seeing His children delight in His Word.



Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

2Thessalonians 2: 1-3


piacere - 5/16/2012 at 01:31 PM

He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?

2Thessalonians 2: 4-5


piacere - 5/17/2012 at 02:09 PM

And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so until he is taken out of the way.

2Thessalonians 2: 6-7


piacere - 5/18/2012 at 04:14 PM

And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

2Thessalonians 2: 8

Amen, Lord Jesus.


DougMacKenzie - 5/19/2012 at 01:26 PM


piacere - 5/19/2012 at 01:29 PM

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perished because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

2Thessalonians 2: 9-10


piacere - 5/20/2012 at 03:16 PM

For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

2Thessalonians 2: 11-12


piacere - 5/23/2012 at 03:35 PM

But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.

2Thessalonians 2:13

Thank you, Father in heaven.


DougMacKenzie - 5/25/2012 at 11:14 AM

My experience has taught me God heals all wounds, fills all emptiness and longing, erases fear with comfort and joy, makes all things new and complete, including me.


piacere - 5/27/2012 at 02:26 PM

quote:
My experience has taught me God heals all wounds, fills all emptiness and longing, erases fear with comfort and joy, makes all things new and complete, including me.



for me, that's a fact.

He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

2Thessalonians 2: 14-15


DougMacKenzie - 5/28/2012 at 11:00 AM

Remember those who have served.

"Greater love has no man than this; that he lay down his life for his friends."


piacere - 5/30/2012 at 01:46 PM

May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father , who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope, encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word.

2Thessalonians 2: 16-17


piacere - 5/31/2012 at 02:32 PM

Finally, brothers, pray for us that the message of the Lord may spread rapidly and be honored, just as it was with you. And pray that we may be delivered from evil and wicked men, for not everyone has faith.

2Thessalonians 3:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 6/1/2012 at 11:28 AM

Thank you God, for the way you come into our lives through the people you have created. Thank you for always being there, always, even when we have our doubts. And thank you for the way you act in our lives so that we step out onto whatever faith we posess. Please help us learn to be content and at peace in all situations, leaning into and trusting you. Amen.


piacere - 6/1/2012 at 01:42 PM

The key, the constant, the gift of the Spirit, is joy. Giving thanks even when we don't understand the calamity befalling us but having the knowledge that it's in accordance with God's will and to His greater good. That, to me, the having of that joy, whenever, wherever, during whatever, proves our faith.

But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen and protect you from the evil one.

2Thessalonians 3:3


piacere - 6/2/2012 at 04:22 PM

We have confidence in the Lord that you are doing and will continue to do the things we command. May the Lord direct your hearts into God's love and Christ's perseverance.

2Thessalonians 3: 4-5

I'm reading another C.S. Lewis book; "Letters to Malcolm".

awesome. Extremely recommended...


DougMacKenzie - 6/4/2012 at 01:14 PM

I love C.S. Lewis.


piacere - 6/4/2012 at 02:47 PM

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.

2Thessalonians 3:6


piacere - 6/5/2012 at 02:10 PM

For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, we were not idle when we were with you...

2Thessalonians 3:7


piacere - 6/6/2012 at 01:50 PM

...nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order for us to make ourselves a model for you to follow.

2Thessalonians 3:8-9


piacere - 6/7/2012 at 03:35 PM

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat".

2Thessalonians 3:10


piacere - 6/8/2012 at 01:35 PM

We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right.

2Thessalonians 3: 11-13


DougMacKenzie - 6/9/2012 at 12:42 PM


piacere - 6/11/2012 at 02:36 PM

If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.

2Thessalonians 3: 14-15


piacere - 6/13/2012 at 01:33 AM

Now may the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in every way. The Lord be with all of you. I, Paul, write this greeting in my own hand, which is the distinguishing mark in all my letters. This is how I write. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.

2Thessalonians 3:16-18

that ends 2Thessalonians. If those of you who read this thread don't mind, I'm going to quote Proverbs for a while, beginning tomorrow. For the edification of all who read them, especially me. I've been a little too full of myself lately and it both makes me sick to my stomach and takes away from God's glory, grace and plan for me.


DougMacKenzie - 6/13/2012 at 10:38 AM

Rock on brother.


piacere - 6/13/2012 at 01:58 PM

I'm going to start with one of my favorite proverbs. Again, these'll be in no particular order but...just to set the table:

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3: 5-6


piacere - 6/14/2012 at 02:39 PM

My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight; they will be life for you, an ornament to grace your neck.

Proverbs 3: 21-22


piacere - 6/15/2012 at 12:59 PM

Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life. Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men. Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way.

Proverbs 4:13-15


DougMacKenzie - 6/17/2012 at 12:45 PM

quote:
Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life. Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men. Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way.

Proverbs 4:13-15

Amen brother. Wished I would of learned that at a much younger age!


piacere - 6/17/2012 at 02:32 PM

quote:
quote:
Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life. Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men. Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way.

Proverbs 4:13-15

Amen brother. Wished I would of learned that at a much younger age!


yeah, me too. Fact is, I'm still learning. I get really upset with myself when I lean on my own "understanding", rely on myself, trust my instincts and "knowledge". I've distanced myself from my relationship with our Lord and Savior recently because I'm letting some of life's inevitable hardships effect my faith and trust in Him. It disgusts me.

There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

Proverbs 6:16-19


piacere - 6/19/2012 at 03:21 PM

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 9:10


DougMacKenzie - 6/19/2012 at 10:43 PM

Ain't it so brother, ain't it so.


piacere - 6/20/2012 at 01:08 PM



The wise of heart will receive commands, but a babbling fool will be thrown down.

Proverbs 10: 8

there's a lot of meaning in that one simple sentence.


piacere - 6/22/2012 at 03:13 PM

Riches do not profit in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death.

Proverbs 11: 4


piacere - 6/25/2012 at 05:14 PM

The perverse in heart are an abomination to the Lord, But the blameless in their walk are His delight.

Proverbs 11:20


piacere - 6/26/2012 at 01:27 PM

Anxiety in the heart of a man weighs it down, but a good word makes it glad.

Proverbs 12:25

(say nice things to people, you never know what's ailing them... )


DougMacKenzie - 6/27/2012 at 11:41 AM

quote:
Anxiety in the heart of a man weighs it down, but a good word makes it glad.

Proverbs 12:25

(say nice things to people, you never know what's ailing them... )

I'm right there with you brother.


piacere - 6/27/2012 at 02:08 PM

quote:
quote:
Anxiety in the heart of a man weighs it down, but a good word makes it glad.

Proverbs 12:25

(say nice things to people, you never know what's ailing them... )

I'm right there with you brother.



thanks Doug. You being right there with me, through some real, REAL tough times over the years has helped me more than you could possibly imagine. The Christ-like love I have for you is tremendous. Man, are we going to dance like fools at the great feast! And so, if I may be so boastful...

...Through presumption comes nothing but strife but with those who receive counsel is wisdom.



Proverbs 13: 10


piacere - 6/28/2012 at 03:01 PM

The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, That one may avoid the snares of death.

Proverbs 14:27

The Bible I've been quoting from lately, The New American Standard, ( I have three, this one is by my computer) has, next to the word "fear", an italicized number, in this case, "3", connotating that the word fear can be, and this is extremely important to those of us who believe, interpreted as either "reverence" or "honor".

Many times I've heard, even at this website, people say, "Why should I 'fear' a loving God"? As stated above, the interpretation encompasses many ideas of that word. Much the same as "fearing" a loving earthly father. It involves honor, respect, reverence, etc.

very important to understand that.


piacere - 6/29/2012 at 02:20 PM

The Lord is far from the wicked, But He hears the prayer of the righteous.

Proverbs 15:29


piacere - 6/30/2012 at 01:56 PM

By lovingkindness and truth iniquity is atoned for, And by the fear of the Lord one keeps away from evil.

Proverbs 16:6


piacere - 7/1/2012 at 05:08 PM

A friend loves at all times, And a brother is born for adversity.

Proverbs 17:17

(one of my favorites...)


piacere - 7/3/2012 at 02:11 PM

The name of the Lord is a strong tower; the righteous runs into it and is safe.

Proverbs 18:10


DougMacKenzie - 7/4/2012 at 12:08 PM

That ain't no lie!


piacere - 7/5/2012 at 03:11 PM

What is desirable in a man is his kindness, And it is better to be a poor man than a liar.

Proverbs 19:22


DougMacKenzie - 7/6/2012 at 12:10 PM

I've got the poosr part down!


piacere - 7/7/2012 at 03:45 PM

quote:
I've got the poosr part down!


oh man brother, me too. In spades...but...

Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, But afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel.

Proverbs 20:17


piacere - 7/8/2012 at 02:10 PM

Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the hearts.

Proverbs 21:2


piacere - 7/11/2012 at 01:14 PM

A good name is to be more desired than great riches, Favor is better than silver and gold.

Proverbs 22:1


DougMacKenzie - 7/12/2012 at 11:58 AM


piacere - 7/13/2012 at 01:24 PM

Do not speak in the hearing of a fool for he will despise the wisdom of your words.

Proverbs 23:9


DougMacKenzie - 7/13/2012 at 01:31 PM

Does that mean I have to quit posting in the NFL thread?


piacere - 7/15/2012 at 02:57 PM

quote:
Does that mean I have to quit posting in the NFL thread?




My son, fear the Lord and the king; Do not associate with those who are given to change; For their calamity will rise suddenly, And who knows the ruin that comes from both of them?

Proverbs 24:21-22


DougMacKenzie - 7/16/2012 at 11:41 AM


piacere - 7/16/2012 at 02:49 PM

Like a city that is broken into, and without walls
Is a man who has no control over his spirit.

Proverbs 25:28


piacere - 7/17/2012 at 02:11 PM

Like a dog that returns to its vomit
Is a fool who repeats his folly.

Proverbs 26:11


piacere - 7/18/2012 at 03:35 PM

Iron sharpens iron
So one man sharpens another

Proverbs 27:17


DougMacKenzie - 7/19/2012 at 08:32 PM


piacere - 7/20/2012 at 04:30 PM

How blessed is the man who fears always
But he who hardens his heart will fall into calamity.

(there's that word "fears" again. Let's not forget it's interpretation. )

Proverbs 28:14


piacere - 7/21/2012 at 01:34 PM

Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained
But happy is he who keeps the law.

Proverbs 29:18

thus ends the Proverbs of Solomon. The last two chapters of Proverbs are written by Agur and King Lemuel. Though divine in their nature and God-inspired, we're going to pass on them and Monday, if you all don't mind, I'm going to start in on the books of First and Second Timothy.

thanks.


piacere - 7/22/2012 at 03:49 PM

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope; to Timothy, my true child in the faith: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus, in order that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.

1Timothy 1: 1-4


piacere - 7/23/2012 at 06:21 PM

But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion...

1Timothy 1:5-6


piacere - 7/24/2012 at 02:22 PM

....wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions. But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

1Timothy 1: 7-11


piacere - 7/25/2012 at 02:16 PM

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service...

1Timothy 1:12


piacere - 7/26/2012 at 03:45 PM

...even though I was formerly a blasphemer and persecutor and a violent aggressor. And yet I was shown mercy, because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus.

1Timothy 1:13-14


piacere - 7/27/2012 at 03:33 PM

It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all.

1Timothy 1:15

( I think we'll let that one sit there for the weekend...)


piacere - 7/30/2012 at 02:54 PM

And yet for this reason I found mercy, in order that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience, as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.

1Timothy 1:16


DougMacKenzie - 8/1/2012 at 11:21 AM


piacere - 8/2/2012 at 03:43 PM

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1Timothy 1:17

...as the crickets chirp, safe and content.


piacere - 8/3/2012 at 03:06 PM

This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.

1Timothy 1:18-19


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2012 at 05:04 PM

Sail on brother.


piacere - 8/4/2012 at 03:49 PM

Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme.

First of all then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, in order that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

1Timothy 1: 20, 2:1-4


piacere - 8/5/2012 at 03:44 PM

For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony borne at the proper time.

1Timothy 2: 5-6


piacere - 8/7/2012 at 12:06 PM

And for this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle ( I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. Therefore, I want the men in every place to pray, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and dissention.

1Timothy 2: 7-8


piacere - 8/8/2012 at 02:17 PM

Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments; but rather by means of good works, as befits women making a claim to godliness.

1Timothy 2: 9-10


DougMacKenzie - 8/9/2012 at 10:29 AM


piacere - 8/9/2012 at 02:10 PM

Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression. But women shall be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.

1Timothy 2:11-15


piacere - 8/10/2012 at 12:57 PM

It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do. An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, uncontentious, free from the love of money.

1Timothy 3: 1-3


piacere - 8/12/2012 at 02:49 PM

He must be one who manges his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?); and not a new convert, lest he become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil.

1Timothy 3:4-6

though sound advice and words to live by, any reader should know that Paul was writing these letters to Timothy as Timothy was about to lead a church and thus, this letter was an instructional one for anyone contemplating pastoral duties.


piacere - 8/13/2012 at 01:00 PM

And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he may not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. Deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not double-tongued or addicted to much wine or fond of sordid gain, but holding to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience.

1Timothy 3: 7-9


piacere - 8/14/2012 at 01:32 PM

And let these also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach.

1Timothy 3:10


piacere - 8/15/2012 at 07:07 PM

Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things.

1Timothy 3:11


DougMacKenzie - 8/16/2012 at 11:36 AM


piacere - 8/18/2012 at 05:34 PM

Let deacons be husbands of only one wife, and good managers of their children and their own households. For those who have served well as deacons obtain for themselves a high standing and great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus. I am writing these things to you, hoping to come to you before long; but in case I am delayed, I write so that you may know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.

1Timothy 3: 12-15


piacere - 8/19/2012 at 02:06 PM

And by common confession great is the mystery of godliness: 'He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Beheld by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory'.

1Timothy 3:16

Amen. With all I see, hear and read, it only reinforces my faith and dependence on our Savior. Thank you, Jesus.


piacere - 8/20/2012 at 12:40 PM

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron...

1Timothy 4:1-2


piacere - 8/21/2012 at 01:10 PM

...men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.

1Timothy 4:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2012 at 11:07 AM

I am so thankful to God for the family he has given me, for pulling me up out of the pit my life had become, for filling our small house with joy and love. Thank you Father.


piacere - 8/23/2012 at 01:23 PM



In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.

1Timothy 4:6

how's that for timing? Doug's post then 1Timothy 4:6.

pretty cool.


piacere - 8/24/2012 at 01:19 PM

But have nothing to do with worldly fables fit only for old women. On the other hand, discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness; for bodily discipline is only of little profit, but godliness is profitable for all things, since it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. It is a trustworthy statement deserving full acceptance.

1Timothy 4:7-9

great passage.


piacere - 8/26/2012 at 02:26 PM

For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. Prescribe and teach these things.

1Timothy 4:10-11

Thank you Lord Jesus, without you, I'm a dead man.


piacere - 8/27/2012 at 01:43 PM

Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe.

1Timothy 4:12

I sent a prayer to our Father for you, John.


piacere - 8/28/2012 at 01:29 PM

Until I come, give attention to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation and teaching.

1Timothy 4:13


DougMacKenzie - 8/28/2012 at 04:04 PM


piacere - 8/29/2012 at 02:21 PM

Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you, which was bestowed upon you through prophetic utterance and by the laying on of hands by the presbytery. Take pains with these things; be absorbed in them, so that your progress may be evident to all.

1Timothy 4:14-15


piacere - 8/30/2012 at 01:09 PM

Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things; for as you do this you will insure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you.

1Timothy 4:16

"pay close attention to yourself..."


piacere - 8/31/2012 at 01:09 PM

Do not sharply rebuke an older man, but rather appeal to him as a father, to the younger men as brothers, the older women as mothers, and the younger women as sisters, in all purity. Honor widows who are widows indeed...

1Timothy 5:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 9/3/2012 at 10:39 AM

Thank you Father for the opportunity to live a life that lifts you up and takes me right along with it. Thanks for the opportunity to share this with others that you provide us. I am so grateful that I so rarely have to use words to do so. Amen.


DougMacKenzie - 9/6/2012 at 10:57 AM

Sometimes I just have to sit back, take a deep breath, and remind myself that there is a God, it is not me, and that he is in control. Then exhale slowly and smile.


piacere - 9/6/2012 at 01:07 PM

...but if any widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to practice piety in regard to their own family, and to make some return to their parents; for this is acceptable in the sight of God.

1Timothy 5:4


piacere - 9/8/2012 at 03:07 PM

Now she who is a widow indeed, and who has been left alone has fixed her hope on God, and continues in entreaties and prayers night and day. But she who gives herself to wanton pleasure is dead even while she lives.

1Timothy 5:5-6


piacere - 9/11/2012 at 12:52 PM

Prescibe these things as well, so that they may be above reproach. But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

1Timothy 5:7-8


DougMacKenzie - 9/11/2012 at 01:11 PM


piacere - 9/12/2012 at 02:55 PM

Let a widow be put on the list only if she is not less than sixty years old, having been the wife of one man, having a reputation for good works; and if she has brought up children, if she has shown hospitality to strangers, if she has washed the saints' feet, if she has assisted those in distress, and if she has devoted herself to every good work.

1Timothy 5:9-10


piacere - 9/14/2012 at 01:19 PM

But refuse to put younger widows on the list, for when they feel sensual desires in disregard of Christ, they want to get married, thus incurring condemnation, because they have set aside their previous pledge. And at the same time they also learn to be idle, as they go around from house to house; and not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, talking about things not proper to mention. Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach, for some have already turned aside to follow Satan. If any woman who is a believer has dependent widows, let her assist them, and let not the church be burdened, so that it may assist those who are widows indeed.

1Timothy 5:11-16


piacere - 9/17/2012 at 01:55 PM

Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. For the Scrpture says, "You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing" and "The laborer is worthy of his wages". Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses. Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest may also may be fearful of sinning.

1Timothy 5: 17-20


piacere - 9/20/2012 at 01:57 PM

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

1Timothy 5:21


piacere - 9/21/2012 at 01:20 PM

Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thus share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin. No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments. The sins of some men are quite evident, going before them to judgment; for others, their sins follow after. Likewise also, deeds that are good are quite evident, and those which are otherwise cannot be concealed.

1Timothy 5: 22-25


piacere - 9/24/2012 at 03:09 PM

Let all who are under the yoke as slaves regard their own masters as worthy of all honor so that the name of God and our doctrine may not be spoken against. And let those who have believers as their masters not be disrespectful to them because they are brethren, but let them serve them all the more, because those who partake of the benefit are believers and beloved. Teach and preach these principles. If anyone advocates a different doctrine, and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.

1Timothy 6:1-5


piacere - 9/25/2012 at 12:43 PM

But godliness actually is a means of great gain, when accompanied by contentment. For we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either. And if we have food and covering, with these we shall be content.

1Timothy 6:6-8


piacere - 9/26/2012 at 02:11 PM

But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a heartache.

1Timothy 6: 9-10


piacere - 9/27/2012 at 12:50 PM

But flee from these things, you man of God; and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness.

1Timothy 6: 11


piacere - 9/28/2012 at 02:53 PM

Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

1Timothy 6:12

(reminds me of the night I was baptized in the church I had been attending...there was one other adult being baptized that night and maybe 10 or so younger kids. Well, the younger kids brought their entire families there, the place was standing room only!)

I had my witnesses...


piacere - 9/29/2012 at 02:35 PM

I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He will bring about at the proper time---He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords; who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

1Timothy 6:13-16


DougMacKenzie - 9/30/2012 at 11:50 AM


piacere - 9/30/2012 at 02:09 PM

Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.

1Timothy 6:17

"...but on God..."


piacere - 10/1/2012 at 02:20 PM

Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.

1Timithy 6:18-19


piacere - 10/2/2012 at 02:21 PM

O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge"---which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith. Grace be with you.

1Timothy 6:20-21

that ends 1Timothy. If no one minds, we're going to read through 2Timothy.

thanks. be blessed. pray.


piacere - 10/3/2012 at 02:27 PM

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, according to the promise of life in Christ Jesus, to Timothy, my beloved son: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. I thank God, whom I serve with a clear conscience the way my forefathers did, as I constantly remember you in my prayers night and day.

2Timothy 1:1-3


piacere - 10/4/2012 at 03:01 PM

...longing to see you, even as I recall your tears, so that I may be filled with joy. For I am mindful of the sincere faith within you, which first dwelt in your grandmother Lois, and your mother Eunice, and I am sure that it is in you as well.

2Timothy 1:4-5


piacere - 10/5/2012 at 02:27 PM

And for this reason I remind you to kindle afresh the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands. For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline. Therefore, do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, or of me His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God.

2Timothy 1: 6-8


piacere - 10/6/2012 at 02:13 PM

...who has saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity, but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel...

2Timothy 1: 9-10


piacere - 10/8/2012 at 02:52 PM

...for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle and a teacher. For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day.

2Timothy 1: 11-12


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2012 at 10:55 AM


piacere - 10/9/2012 at 03:33 PM

Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.

2Timothy 1:13


piacere - 10/11/2012 at 12:37 PM

Guard, through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you.

2Timothy 1:14


DougMacKenzie - 10/13/2012 at 12:16 PM


piacere - 10/13/2012 at 02:48 PM

You are aware of the fact that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes. The Lord grant mercy to the house of Onesiphorus for he often refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chains; but when he was in Rome, he eagerly searched for me, and found me---the Lord grant to him to find mercy from the Lord on that day---and you know very well what services he rendered at Ephesus.

2Timothy 1:15-18


DougMacKenzie - 10/15/2012 at 10:17 AM

Father, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdomn to know the difference. Amen.


piacere - 10/15/2012 at 01:39 PM

read the story on yahoo concerning the Harvard professor who was recently in a coma for a week.



You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

2Timothy 2:1


piacere - 10/18/2012 at 02:00 PM

And the things which you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, these entrust to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also. Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.

2Timothy 2:2-3


piacere - 10/19/2012 at 01:51 PM

No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier. And also, if anyone competes as an athlete he does not win the prize unless he competes according to the rules. The hard working farmer ought to be the first to receive his share of the crops. Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

2Timothy 2:4-7

it's really something how that "the Lord will give you understanding" phrase pops up in the Bible from time to time. Jesus Himself said it too; "The Father chooses to give understanding to some, others not."

thank you Father for giving me the understanding.


piacere - 10/22/2012 at 02:35 PM

Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, descendant of David, according to my gospel, for which I suffer hardship even to imprisonment as a criminal; but the word of God is not imprisoned. For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory.

2Timothy 2:8-10

"...those who are chosen..."


piacere - 10/24/2012 at 02:34 PM

It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him; If we endure, we shall also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He will also deny us; If we are faithless, He remains faithful; for He cannot deny Himself.
Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless, and leads to the ruin of the hearers.

2Timothy 2: 11-14

"...not to wrangle about words, which is useless..."


piacere - 10/25/2012 at 02:02 PM

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word of truth. But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness...

2Timothy 2:15-16

"...handling accurately the word of truth..."

hmmmm, ya think our Father in heaven and His servant, the divinely-inspired Paul, knew what would be going on 2000 years later?


Enzo - 10/27/2012 at 12:43 AM

Psalms 42:11
Why, my soul, are you downcast? Why so disturbed within me?
Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him, my Savior and my God.


piacere - 10/27/2012 at 01:41 PM

...and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some. Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His", and, "Let everyone who names the name of the Lord abstain from wickedness".

2Timothy 2: 17-19


piacere - 10/29/2012 at 01:36 PM

Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. Therefore, if a man cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

2Timothy 2:20-21

with Sandy approaching and more than likely knocking out power around here, I'll be out of commission for a while.


DougMacKenzie - 11/2/2012 at 11:02 AM

When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom
"Let it be."


Enzo - 11/4/2012 at 12:20 AM

Psalm 93:3-4 NIV)

3 The seas have lifted up, Lord,
the seas have lifted up their voice;
the seas have lifted up their pounding waves.
4 Mightier than the thunder of the great waters,
mightier than the breakers of the sea—
the Lord on high is mighty


Enzo - 11/4/2012 at 12:21 AM

Psalm 18:16-17 (NIV)

16 He reached down from on high and took hold of me;
he drew me out of deep waters.
17 He rescued me from my powerful enemy,
from my foes, who were too strong for me.


DougMacKenzie - 11/6/2012 at 01:49 PM

Enzo!


Enzo - 11/7/2012 at 01:10 AM

Psalm 33:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 Sing to him a new song;
PLAY SKILLFULLY, and SHOUT FOR JOY....

Hey Doug !! do you have a fb acct ?


DougMacKenzie - 11/9/2012 at 02:34 AM

Yes! My daughtr is still trying to teach me how it all works.

"I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well."

Psalm 139:14


piacere - 11/12/2012 at 07:30 PM

ummmm, where was I? Oh yeah...

"Now flee from youthful lusts, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.
But refuse ignorant and foolish speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels."

2Timothy 2:22-23


Enzo - 11/13/2012 at 01:13 AM

Job 37:5 (NIV)
5 God’s voice thunders in marvelous ways;
he does great things beyond our understanding.


piacere - 11/13/2012 at 01:54 PM

And the Lord's bond-servant must not be quarelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.

2Timothy 2:24-26


piacere - 11/21/2012 at 12:13 AM

But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; and avoid such men as these.

2Timothy 3:1-5


piacere - 11/21/2012 at 02:48 PM

For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Timothy 3:6-7


Enzo - 11/21/2012 at 08:16 PM

GIVE THANKS , WITH A GRATEFUL HEART
GIVE THANKS , TO THE HOLY ONE
GIVE THANKS , FOR HE'S GIVEN JESUS CHRIST, HIS SON

AND NOW LET THE WEAK SAY , I AM STRONG
LET THE POOR SAY , I AM RICH
BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LORD HAS DONE , FOR US

Give thanks !


DougMacKenzie - 11/22/2012 at 12:23 PM

What would I have left if God took away from me today everything I didn't thank him for yesterday?


piacere - 11/23/2012 at 04:15 PM

And just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected as regards the faith. But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, as also that of those two came to be. But you followed my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, patience, love, perseverance, persecutions, and sufferings, such as happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium and at Lystra; what persecutions I endured, and out of them all, the Lord delivered me!

2Timothy 3:8-11


piacere - 11/24/2012 at 03:38 PM

And indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them; and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

2Timothy 3: 12-15


piacere - 11/26/2012 at 02:56 PM

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

2Timothy 3:16-17


piacere - 11/27/2012 at 04:55 PM

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom; preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.

2Timothy 4:1-2


piacere - 11/28/2012 at 02:56 PM

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths.
But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

2Timothy 4:3-5

"...half hearted people get in the way..."

a quote I heard last night in reference to rolling up our sleeves and doing God's work.


DougMacKenzie - 11/28/2012 at 08:14 PM


piacere - 11/30/2012 at 04:27 PM

For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.

2Timothy 4:6-8

after getting home yesterday following my third angio/STENT procedure Wednesday night, my heart started hurting again right after my last post here, the above verse has some pretty special meaning to me, as it should to all believers. He comes like a thief in the night so be on guard, be prepared. I get a little disappointed some times, a little scared that at 56 with 2 little grandkids I might not see tomorrow...but then I think, I will see an endless wonder of tomorrow's and it puts me at ease.


DougMacKenzie - 11/30/2012 at 08:14 PM

Keeping you in our prayers brother


piacere - 12/1/2012 at 03:51 PM

quote:
Keeping you in our prayers brother



and you and yours are in mine, my brother.

as Paul mentions a few people from 4:9 to 4:22, some in the light, some not and thus closes out 2Timothy, except for one verse that I'll post, after this we'll move on to some quotes from our Lord and Savior taken from Matthew.

The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed, and will bring me safely to His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

2Timothy 4:18


piacere - 12/2/2012 at 04:12 PM

as I've been in and out of the hospital the last three weeks or so, the ol' noggin' isn't working quite right, not that it ever did all that much anyway and like we did last year if I recall, which again, is a mystery, let's instead turn to Luke this time of year and celebrate our Savior's birth...

...And his (John the Baptist) father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit, and prophesied, saying: "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people..."

Luke 1:67-68


piacere - 12/3/2012 at 02:22 PM

"And has raised up a horn of salvation for us
In the house of David His servant---
As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from of old---
'Salvation from our enemies, And from the hand of all who hate us'
To show mercy toward our fathers,
And to remember His holy covenant..."

Luke 2:69-72


DougMacKenzie - 12/4/2012 at 01:19 AM


piacere - 12/4/2012 at 04:05 PM

The oath which He swore to Abraham our father,
To grant us that we, being delivered from the hand of our enemies,
Might serve Him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before Him all our days...

Luke 1:73-75


piacere - 12/5/2012 at 02:12 PM

"And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High; For you will go on before the Lord to prepare His ways; To give to His people the knowledge of salvation by the forgiveness of their sins, Because of the tender mercy of our God, With which the Sunrise from on high shall visit us, To shine upon those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death, To guide our feet into the way of peace".

Luke 1: 76-79

(the birth of John the Baptist)


DougMacKenzie - 12/6/2012 at 12:11 PM


And if I pass this way again you can rest assured
I'll always do my best for her on that I give my word
In a world of steel-eyed death and men who are fighting to be warm
"Come in" she said
"I'll give you shelter from the storm".




piacere - 12/6/2012 at 02:50 PM

And the child continued to grow, and to become strong in spirit, and he lived in the deserts until the day of his public appearance to Israel.

Luke 1:80


piacere - 12/7/2012 at 02:40 PM

Now it came about in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth...

Luke 2:1


piacere - 12/8/2012 at 07:12 PM

This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria. And everyone went to his own town to register.

Luke 2:2-3


piacere - 12/9/2012 at 03:19 PM

So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child.

Luke 2:4-5


piacere - 12/12/2012 at 02:42 PM

While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, , and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

Luke 2:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 12/13/2012 at 02:24 PM


Enzo - 12/14/2012 at 12:50 AM

Luke 2:8-10

New International Version (NIV)

8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people.

piacere , you ok bro ?!


DougMacKenzie - 12/14/2012 at 03:07 PM

quote:
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people.



Thank you Lord.


Enzo - 12/14/2012 at 10:19 PM

Luke 2:11-14

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”
Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
“Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”


DougMacKenzie - 12/15/2012 at 04:10 AM

"A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more."

Matthew 2:18


piacere - 12/15/2012 at 03:24 PM

quote:
Luke 2:8-10

New International Version (NIV)

8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people.

piacere , you ok bro ?!


fine 'n' dandy, brother... and I thank you much for asking. In light of yesterday's events in Connecticut, I sort of fell in a funk...but, and again thanks to you, I came here and your posts are reminders that though life can sometimes be unbearably painful, there was a hope and joy brought into the world for those of us who believe, for any who call on His name and that He lives in us, giving us that hope and joy. Stay forever in the Word brother, God bless.


Enzo - 12/15/2012 at 11:49 PM

Amen bro !!! Piacere , I was there to help carry the Word of God until you got back on your feet bro ! Lifting up the families in prayer ...........


DougMacKenzie - 12/16/2012 at 12:09 PM

Amen my brothers, amen. Going to be a tough morning in the church house today, but i'll be there holding my family tight and thanking God for all his blessings, trusting that all things work for good for those that love the Lord, who live according to his purpose. Trusting in faith that his plan is perfect, even if I can't see it and don't have a clue as to how this incident could possibly be turned into wondrous joy. But he said he would do it, and I believe him. Someday my brothers, some day. And every day is one day closer to that day. Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.


piacere - 12/16/2012 at 03:57 PM

"Let the little children come to me..."

Mark 10:14


piacere - 12/18/2012 at 03:42 PM

At that time Jesus said, "I praise you Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure. All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest".

Matthew 11:25-28


DougMacKenzie - 12/21/2012 at 11:13 AM

Happy nd of the world day. See you tomorrow.


piacere - 12/21/2012 at 04:09 PM

quote:
Happy nd of the world day. See you tomorrow.



thanks brother, same to you.

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

Matthew 24:36


piacere - 12/22/2012 at 03:59 PM

"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day".

John 6:39-40

(NIV)


DougMacKenzie - 12/24/2012 at 02:42 AM

One of my favorite veres ever, written @700 years before the birth of Christ:

9 Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—

2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.
3 You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as warriors rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
4 For as in the day of Midian’s defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
5 Every warrior’s boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.

Isaiah 9:1-7

Merry Christmas everyone.


piacere - 12/24/2012 at 03:19 PM

quote:
Luke 2:11-14

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”
Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
“Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”


my favorite verse in the Bible, especially that first sentence. What a gift! What a thing to happen! What a God we have!

Merry Christmas...Happy Birthday sweet and precious Jesus.


piacere - 12/26/2012 at 05:39 PM

The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Isaiah 9:2


piacere - 12/27/2012 at 04:19 PM

Hear my cry, O God; listen to my prayer.

Psalm 61:1


piacere - 12/28/2012 at 03:38 PM

Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord does not count against him and in whose spirit is no deceit.

Psalm 32:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 12/28/2012 at 03:49 PM

Amn to that brother!


piacere - 12/30/2012 at 05:41 PM

Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

James 1:22


piacere - 12/31/2012 at 04:15 PM

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me...

Psalm 23:4


DougMacKenzie - 1/1/2013 at 05:44 PM


piacere - 1/2/2013 at 05:32 PM

A prayer for 2013...

Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.

Psalm 51:10-12


piacere - 1/4/2013 at 03:53 PM

"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me' "

Matthew 25:40


piacere - 1/6/2013 at 03:37 PM

The Lord is my light and my salvation---
whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the stronghold of my life---
of whom shall I be afraid?

Psalm 27:1


piacere - 1/7/2013 at 03:43 PM

But when he (Peter) saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"
Immediately, Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith", he said, "why did you doubt?"

Matthew 14:30-31


piacere - 1/8/2013 at 03:52 PM

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also".

Luke 12:34


piacere - 1/9/2013 at 04:55 PM

The Book of Jude.

"Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James,
To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by Jesus Christ:
Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance".

Jude 1: 1-2


piacere - 1/11/2013 at 01:55 PM

Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Jude 1:3-4


DougMacKenzie - 1/12/2013 at 03:05 AM

Keep up the good work my brother.


piacere - 1/14/2013 at 02:16 PM

Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home--- these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

Jude 1: 5-6

thanks Doug. My pleasure.


piacere - 1/15/2013 at 05:38 PM

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Jude 1:7


piacere - 1/16/2013 at 02:32 PM

In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals---these are the very things that destroy them.

Jude 1: 8-10

[Edited on 1/16/2013 by piacere]


DougMacKenzie - 1/17/2013 at 04:15 AM


DougMacKenzie - 1/18/2013 at 01:19 AM

Just a thought this evening; forgiveness is the key for me to be able to trupy love as Christ loves us. It is so hard for me to let go of my own wants, needs, desires, and expectations, my hurt,anger, resentment. I want to hang on to them, to have things made "right", to have "justice". Thank you Lord for not giving me me what I deserve, and for giving me grace instead. Please help me to get better at giving it to others. Amen.

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times."

Matt.18:21-22


piacere - 1/19/2013 at 03:43 PM

quote:
Just a thought this evening; forgiveness is the key for me to be able to trupy love as Christ loves us. It is so hard for me to let go of my own wants, needs, desires, and expectations, my hurt,anger, resentment. I want to hang on to them, to have things made "right", to have "justice". Thank you Lord for not giving me me what I deserve, and for giving me grace instead. Please help me to get better at giving it to others. Amen.

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times."

Matt.18:21-22



yeah, it's a process. I deal (battle?) with those exact same things. The thing is, you have the understanding, the willing heart. That makes you a child of God. You're a blessing.


piacere - 1/20/2013 at 04:55 PM

Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they rushed for profit into Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion. These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm---shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted---twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

Jude 1: 11-13


piacere - 1/20/2013 at 05:05 PM

Five years this thread has been going.

I truly hope that though some may not post, God has given them the understanding, the willing Spirit, to discern between His solid truths and whatever else there is.

It'd be awesome, on that Great Day when we're all praising and worshipping our heavenly Father in His glorious Kingdom, if someone walked up to either me or Doug or Enzo or any believing poster and said, "Hey man, I read that thread".


piacere - 1/21/2013 at 03:29 PM

Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly actsthey have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him". These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

Jude 1:14-16


piacere - 1/22/2013 at 05:39 PM

But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit.

Jude 1:17-20


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2013 at 11:47 AM


piacere - 1/23/2013 at 01:33 PM

Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

Jude 1:21


piacere - 1/24/2013 at 03:18 PM

Be merciful to those who doubt; snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear---hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

Jude 1:22-23


piacere - 1/26/2013 at 05:40 PM

To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy---to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

next up: 1Thessalonians


piacere - 1/27/2013 at 03:36 PM

Paul, Silas and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
Grace and peace to you.

1Thessalonians 1:1


piacere - 1/28/2013 at 03:31 PM

We always thank God for all of you, mentioning you in our prayers. We continually remember before our God and Father your work produced by faith, your labor prompted by love, and your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Thessalonians 1:2-3

won't be around tomorrow and maybe Wednesday. Having yet another STENT put in. So, if the thought moves you, send a ray of light in the form of a little prayer to our Father in heaven on my behalf. Thanks. Be blessed.


piacere - 1/30/2013 at 05:09 PM

For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has chosen you, because our gospel came to you not simply with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and with deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake.

1Thessalonians 1: 4-5

Had the procedure yesterday morning, a STENT in my thigh, I had some blockage there. Better now but in some tremendous pain. It's all a blessing, I thank God for me getting better.


piacere - 1/31/2013 at 02:35 PM

You became imitators of us and of the Lord; in spite of severe suffering , you welcomed the message with the joy given by the Holy Spirit.

1Thessalonians 1:6


piacere - 2/3/2013 at 02:56 PM

feelin' better. Nice to be able to walk again without pain. Fixed up that artery in my leg so I'm getting good blood flow to my lower leg, can start working out again. What a blessing God has bestowed upon me giving me my health back. I'm truly thankful to Him for His mercy and His lovingkindness.

And so you became a model to all the believers in Macedonia and Achaia. The Lord's message rang out from you not only in Macedonia and Achaia--- your faith in God has become known everywhere. Therefore, we do not need to say anything about it, for they themselves report what kind of reception you gave us. They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead---Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.

1Thessalonians 1:7-10

thank you, Jesus.


DougMacKenzie - 2/4/2013 at 02:08 PM

Glad to hear it brother. You are a blessing.


piacere - 2/5/2013 at 02:35 PM

You know, brothers, that our visit to you was not a failure. We had previously suffered and been insulted in Philippi, as you know, but with the help of our God we dared to tell you his gospel in spite of strong opposition.

1Thessalonians 2:1-2

What a difference there is between intelligence and understanding, between intellect and wisdom. Nowhere does the Bible mention intelligence but how often it mentions understanding, something many many people do not have because it encompasses so much more than intellect. Of course, we speak spiritually here and as Jesus said, "My Father has given understanding to those whom He chooses, to others, not".

thank you, Father.


piacere - 2/6/2013 at 03:56 PM

For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you. On the contrary, we speak as men approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please men but God, who tests our hearts.

1Thessalonians 2: 3-4


piacere - 2/7/2013 at 03:35 PM

You know we never used flattery, nor did we put on a mask to cover up greed---God is our witness. We were not looking for praise from men, nor from you or anyone else.

1Thessalonians 2:5-6

nice quote.


DougMacKenzie - 2/9/2013 at 04:34 PM

Thanks so much for keeping this going brother.


piacere - 2/10/2013 at 03:06 PM

quote:
Thanks so much for keeping this going brother.


my pleasure.

I think we'll take a day or two off in rememberance of our Christian brother, John Ott.

enjoy the fruits of your faith, brother John.


DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2013 at 09:19 PM

quote:
quote:
Thanks so much for keeping this going brother.


my pleasure.

I think we'll take a day or two off in rememberance of our Christian brother, John Ott.

enjoy the fruits of your faith, brother John.

Amen.


Enzo - 2/10/2013 at 10:36 PM


Psalm 9:10 New International Version

Those who know your name trust in you,
for you, Lord, have never forsaken those who seek you.


piacere - 2/12/2013 at 02:13 PM

As apostles of Christ we could have been a burden to you, but we were gentle among you, like a mother caring for her little children. We loved you so much that we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well, because you had become so dear to us.

1Thessalonians 2:6-8


piacere - 2/14/2013 at 02:46 PM

Surely you remember, brothers, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone whilw we preached the gospel of God to you.
You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed.

1Thessalonians 2:9-10


piacere - 2/15/2013 at 03:14 PM

For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children, encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

1Thessalonians 2: 11-12


piacere - 2/16/2013 at 04:58 PM

And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.

1Thessalonians 2:13


DougMacKenzie - 2/17/2013 at 02:54 AM


piacere - 2/18/2013 at 01:52 PM

For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.

1Thessalonians 2: 14-16


piacere - 2/20/2013 at 03:40 PM

...so as always to fill up the measure of their sins; but wrath has come upon them to the uttermost.

1Thessalonians 2:16


DougMacKenzie - 2/21/2013 at 12:11 PM

Posted this in another thread today, but thought it fit here as well.

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."

Galatians 6:7-9


piacere - 2/21/2013 at 05:51 PM

But we, brethren, having been taken away from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavored more eagerly to see your face with great desire.

1Thessalonians 2:17


DougMacKenzie - 2/23/2013 at 02:28 PM

RIP Wotty. See you when we get there.


piacere - 2/25/2013 at 03:54 PM

For we wanted to come to you---certainly I, Paul, did, again and again---but Satan stopped us. For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus when he comes? Is it not you? Indeed, you are our glory and joy.

1Thessalonians 2:18-20


piacere - 2/28/2013 at 01:26 PM

So when we could stand it no longer, we thought it best to be left by ourselves in Athens. We sent Timothy, who is our brother and God's fellow worker in spreading the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you in your faith, so that no one would be unsettled by these trials. You know quite well that we were destined for them.

1Thessalonians 3:1-3

[Edited on 2/28/2013 by piacere]


piacere - 3/1/2013 at 03:18 PM

In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know. For this reason, when I could stand it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter might have tempted you and our efforts might have been useless. But Timothy has just now come to us from you and has brought good news about your faith and love. He has told us that you always have pleasant memories of us and that you long to see us, just as we also long to see you.

1Thessalonians 3: 4-6


piacere - 3/2/2013 at 03:34 PM

Therefore, brothers, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. For now we really live, since you are standing firm in the Lord.

1Thessalonians 3: 7-8


piacere - 3/4/2013 at 02:24 PM

How can we thank God enough for you in return for all the joy we have in the presence of our God because of you? Night and day we pray most earnestly that we may see you again and supply what is lacking in your faith. Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you.

1Thessalonians 3: 9-11


piacere - 3/5/2013 at 02:44 PM

May the Lord make your love increase and overflow for each other and for everyone else, just as ours does for you. May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.

1Thessalonians 3: 12-13


piacere - 3/6/2013 at 04:16 PM

Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.

1Thessalonians 4:1-2


piacere - 3/7/2013 at 05:20 PM

It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God, and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.

1Thessalonians 4: 3-7


DougMacKenzie - 3/8/2013 at 07:05 PM


piacere - 3/10/2013 at 03:33 PM

Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. Now about brotherly love we do not need to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love each other.

1Thessalonians 4: 8-9


piacere - 3/11/2013 at 03:19 PM

And in fact, you do love all the brothers throughout Macedonia. Yet we urge you, brothers, to do so more and more.

1Thessalonians 4:10


piacere - 3/14/2013 at 05:08 PM

Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you. so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.

1Thessalonians 4: 11-12


DougMacKenzie - 3/15/2013 at 05:26 PM


DougMacKenzie - 3/17/2013 at 12:43 PM

Thank you, Father, for lifting me up out of the mud and allowing me to experience the fullness of life you have for us.


piacere - 3/17/2013 at 02:47 PM

Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.

1Thessalonians 4:13-14


piacere - 3/19/2013 at 02:36 PM

According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

1Thessalonians 4:15


DougMacKenzie - 3/20/2013 at 01:03 PM

'Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood
Where blackness was a virtue and the road was full of mud
I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form
"Come in", she said, "I'll give 'ya
Shelter from the storm."


piacere - 3/21/2013 at 03:25 PM

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words.

1Thessalonians 4:16-18


piacere - 3/22/2013 at 01:29 PM

Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

1Thessalonians 5:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 3/22/2013 at 01:32 PM

Amen. Come Lord Jesus.


piacere - 3/25/2013 at 01:54 PM

While people are saying, "Peace and safety", destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should not surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

1Thessalonians 5: 3-5


piacere - 3/26/2013 at 01:43 PM

So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled.

1Thessalonians 5:6


DougMacKenzie - 3/28/2013 at 01:05 PM

Asking for prayers for my wife to get hired as a permanent teacher in the job where she is now a long term sub. It's perfect for her, and she's great at it, and we need the money! But...not my will, but thy will be done Father. Amen.


piacere - 3/28/2013 at 02:18 PM

again my brother, I will continue to pray for you and yours.

as this is holy week, the passion of our Christ and tomorrow is Good Friday, it's probably fitting that we take a break from 1Thessalonians and give thanks and praise to our Savior.

Thank you Father for sending your Son who died on a cross for my salvation, me, of all people...and rose on the third day to overcome death and lives forever and those of us who believe, who follow Him on the path of righteousness toward the truth, may live as well with Him in your glorious kingdom forever.

Amen.


piacere - 3/29/2013 at 02:11 PM


piacere - 3/30/2013 at 05:20 PM


DougMacKenzie - 3/31/2013 at 11:47 AM

He is risen!


piacere - 3/31/2013 at 01:53 PM

quote:
He is risen!


beat me to it.

and that's okay.


DougMacKenzie - 3/31/2013 at 07:22 PM

Thanks be to God for the hope our risen saviour gives us, the promise of life everlasting, the joy on that day when we rip through this thin disgusie and taste those waters of paradise. Give Lizzie a hug for me Father.


piacere - 4/2/2013 at 02:16 PM

For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Therssalonians 5: 7-9


piacere - 4/5/2013 at 01:04 PM

He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

1Thessalonians 5:10-11


DougMacKenzie - 4/6/2013 at 03:12 PM

Amen my brother, "just as in fact you are doing." Thanks


piacere - 4/8/2013 at 01:07 PM

Now we ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you, who are over you in the Lord and who admonish you. Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. And we urge you, brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be patient with everyone. Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else.

1Thessalonians 5:12-15


piacere - 4/10/2013 at 01:09 PM

Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not put out the Spirit's fire; do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.

1Thessalonians 5:16-22


piacere - 4/11/2013 at 12:38 PM

May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it. Brothers, pray for us. Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss. I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

1Thessalonians 5:25-28

good book. I've enjoyed posting it. It's nice to have Bible verses to look at and ponder.

folks, if no one minds, I'm going to be posting quotes from the One and Only, the King of Kings, Lord of all, Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Himself, from the Book of Matthew, beginning tomorrow.

be blessed. pray hard.


DougMacKenzie - 4/11/2013 at 06:58 PM

Love it. Nothing like going to the source. Rock on brother.


piacere - 4/12/2013 at 12:58 PM

In Matthew, the first four chapters deal with Jesus' genealogy, His birth, the visit of the Magi, the escape to Egypt, the return to Nazareth, John the Baptist preparing the way, Jesus' baptism, Jesus' temptation and near the end of chapter four; Jesus begins to preach.

Seems like a good place to start!

From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near".

Matthew 4:17

Not a bad start.


DougMacKenzie - 4/14/2013 at 11:01 AM

Every day is one day closer.


piacere - 4/15/2013 at 01:46 PM

The Beatitudes

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Matthew 5:3-12


DougMacKenzie - 4/16/2013 at 10:23 AM

"At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."

Matthew 24:10-13

Prayers and healing vibes out to Boston.


DougMacKenzie - 4/18/2013 at 10:46 AM

Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen.


piacere - 4/18/2013 at 07:44 PM

Amen.

"You are the salt of the earth"

Matthew 5:13


piacere - 4/19/2013 at 03:50 PM

"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden."

Matthew 5:14


DougMacKenzie - 4/23/2013 at 03:54 PM

Praying for peace and patience. Sometimes I just want what I want when I want it! Help me to mature in my faith Father.


DougMacKenzie - 4/25/2013 at 11:00 AM

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me......


piacere - 4/27/2013 at 04:22 PM

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

Matthew 6:19-21


DougMacKenzie - 4/28/2013 at 01:30 PM


piacere - 4/29/2013 at 03:46 PM

"...But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

Matthew 6:33-34


piacere - 5/2/2013 at 01:10 PM

read the book of James yesterday (my birthday...thank you, thank you very much) and I've got to do it here. Though quotes from the One and Only; our Lord and Savior, are precious and true and give life and comfort to those who believe, the book of James is as poignant today as when it was first written. So here goes...

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings.

Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.

James 1:1-3



[Edited on 5/2/2013 by piacere]


DougMacKenzie - 5/3/2013 at 02:58 PM

Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.


One of my all time favorite verses!


piacere - 5/6/2013 at 09:31 PM

Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.

James 1: 4-8

my son's mom went to be with the Lord last week. She was a woman of great faith and she too now enjoys the reward of her trust in our Savior.


DougMacKenzie - 5/6/2013 at 10:58 PM

Love you brother.


piacere - 5/8/2013 at 12:27 PM

A friend loves at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.

Proverbs 17:17

The brother in humble circumstances ought to take pride in his high position. But the one who is rich should take pride in his low position, because he will pass away like a wild flower. For the sun rises with scorching heat and withers the plant; its blossom falls and its beauty is destroyed. In the same way, the rich man will fade away even while he goes about his business.

James 1: 9-11


piacere - 5/9/2013 at 03:43 PM

Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

James 1:12


piacere - 5/13/2013 at 02:11 PM

When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me". For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

James 1:13-15


piacere - 5/14/2013 at 05:03 PM

Don't be deceived, my dear brothers.

James 1:16


piacere - 5/16/2013 at 02:43 PM

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

James 1:17-18


piacere - 5/20/2013 at 02:25 PM

My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires.

James 1:19-20

"...slow to speak..."


piacere - 5/21/2013 at 02:33 PM

Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

James 1: 21-22


piacere - 5/22/2013 at 01:10 PM

Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it---he will be blessed in what he does.

James 1:23-25


piacere - 5/25/2013 at 02:19 PM

If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

James 1:26-27

"...keep oneself from being polluted by the world..."


Enzo - 5/27/2013 at 11:29 PM

I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. John 15:5.

Piacere , the faithful one ,
how are you ?


piacere - 6/2/2013 at 02:29 PM

Hi Enzo. I'm fine, thank you. I hope you are too. Just been busy and forget where the time goes.

My dear brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don't show favoritism. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes , and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good seat for you", but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet", have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

James 2:1-5


DougMacKenzie - 6/3/2013 at 11:43 AM


piacere - 6/5/2013 at 03:21 PM

nice to see ol' DUG checkin' in.

we're rollin' along by the grace of God, my man. All is well.

But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?

James 2:6-7


DougMacKenzie - 6/6/2013 at 02:05 PM

“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

Matt. 5:11-12


piacere - 6/7/2013 at 03:27 PM

If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself", you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

James 2:8-10


piacere - 6/9/2013 at 02:25 PM

For he who said, "Do not commit adultery" also said, "Do not commit murder". If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker. Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!

James 2:11-13


DougMacKenzie - 6/10/2013 at 10:39 AM

quote:
Mercy triumphs over judgment!

James 2:11-13



piacere - 6/10/2013 at 01:37 PM

What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?

James 2:14


piacere - 6/11/2013 at 02:46 PM

Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well, keep warm and well fed", but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

James 2:15-17


piacere - 6/13/2013 at 04:09 PM

But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds". Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.

James 2:18


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2013 at 12:09 PM

quote:
I will show you my faith by what I do.

James 2:18



DougMacKenzie - 6/17/2013 at 07:11 PM

"You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder."

James 2:19


piacere - 6/18/2013 at 03:16 PM

been awful busy. Thanks for picking up the slack.

But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "And Abraham Believed God And It Was Reckoned To Him As Righteousness", and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone.

James 2: 20-24


piacere - 6/20/2013 at 08:34 PM

And in the same way was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

James 2:25-26


piacere - 6/23/2013 at 07:08 PM

Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment. For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body as well.

James 3:1-2


piacere - 6/24/2013 at 07:12 PM

Now if we put the bits into the horses' mouths so that they may obey us, we direct their entire body as well. Behold, the ships also, though they are so great and driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder, wherever the inclination of the pilot desires. So also the tongue is a small part of the body, and yet it boasts of great things. Behold, how great a forest is set aflame by such a small fire! And the tongue is a fire, the very world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by hell.

James 3:3-6


DougMacKenzie - 6/25/2013 at 10:43 AM


piacere - 6/25/2013 at 05:12 PM

For every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles and creatures of the sea, is tamed, and has been tamed by the human race. But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison. With it we bless our Lord and Father; and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God; from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

James 3:7-10


piacere - 6/26/2013 at 08:59 PM

Does a fountain send out from the same opening both fresh and bitter water? Can a fig tree, my brethren, produce olives, or a vine produce figs? Neither can salt water produce fresh. Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom.

James 3:11-13

edited to add verse numbers.

[Edited on 6/26/2013 by piacere]


piacere - 6/27/2013 at 01:11 PM

But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.

James 3: 14-16


DougMacKenzie - 6/28/2013 at 02:41 PM

quote:
For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.


Ain't it the truth.


piacere - 6/28/2013 at 06:50 PM

quote:
quote:
For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.


Ain't it the truth.


yeah...there's quite a bit of it in The Book.

here's a bit more...

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

James 3:17-18


DougMacKenzie - 7/2/2013 at 01:00 PM


piacere - 7/3/2013 at 03:53 PM

What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

James 4: 1-3


piacere - 7/6/2013 at 07:47 PM

You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely? But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble".(Prov. 3:34)

James 4: 4-6


DougMacKenzie - 7/7/2013 at 11:52 AM

The wife finally got a new job! YESSSS!!!!!! It's ben a long walk in the wilderness, but we're coming to the ohter side. Thank you Lord for sustaining us.

“Do not fear, for I have redeemed you;
I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
When you pass through the waters,
I will be with you;
and when you pass through the rivers,
they will not sweep over you.
When you walk through the fire,
you will not be burned;
the flames will not set you ablaze.
For I am the Lord your God,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior;

Isaiah 43:1-3


piacere - 7/9/2013 at 03:33 PM

mighty good news, brother.

Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

James 4:7-10




DougMacKenzie - 7/9/2013 at 05:43 PM


piacere - 7/11/2013 at 04:00 PM

Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

(this is one I should read every day. I still struggle with looking at those around me and not letting God look at them. It bums me out that I still carry that part of me around...but I'm working on it)

James 4:11-12


piacere - 7/13/2013 at 06:32 PM

Now listen, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money". Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.

James 4:13-14


DougMacKenzie - 7/14/2013 at 10:26 AM

"You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

Ain't that the truth.


DougMacKenzie - 7/15/2013 at 08:18 PM


piacere - 7/16/2013 at 03:39 PM

Instead, you ought to say, "If it is the Lord's will, we will live and do this or that". As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil. Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins.

James 4:15-17


DougMacKenzie - 7/18/2013 at 10:33 AM

"The Lord is my shepherd.....


piacere - 7/18/2013 at 05:55 PM

Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes.

James 5:1-2


piacere - 7/20/2013 at 07:28 PM

Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered innocent men, who were not opposing you.

James 5:3-6


piacere - 7/22/2013 at 01:43 PM

Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord's coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop and how patient he is for the autumn and spring rains. You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord's coming is near.

James 5: 7-8


DougMacKenzie - 7/22/2013 at 08:48 PM


piacere - 7/23/2013 at 04:45 PM

Don't grumble against each other, brothers, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door!

James 5:9


piacere - 7/25/2013 at 03:18 PM

Brothers, as an example of patience in the face suffering, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job's perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.

James 5:10-11


DougMacKenzie - 7/26/2013 at 02:41 AM

Love 'ya brother. Thanks.


piacere - 7/27/2013 at 03:39 PM

quote:
Love 'ya brother. Thanks.


love you too my man. you're welcome, it's my pleasure and to the glory of our Savior.

Above all, my brothers, do not swear---not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No", no, or you will be condemned.

James 5:12


piacere - 7/29/2013 at 02:19 PM

Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praises. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.

James 5:13-15


piacere - 7/30/2013 at 02:24 PM

Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

James 5:16

Doug...I did NOT know this verse was up next when I emailed you last week.

I'm tellin' ya straight up.


piacere - 7/31/2013 at 01:01 PM

Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain; and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months. And he prayed again, and the sky poured rain, and the earth produced its fruit. My brethren, if any of you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins.

James 5:17-20

the end of the Book of James. Good stuff.

going to spend the next few days, like before, quoting from the One and Only, The King, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave His life as a ransom so that we may never see death. All glory and honor to the One risen Savior.


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2013 at 03:43 PM

God is good, his timing perfect.


piacere - 8/5/2013 at 01:47 PM

"Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest."

Matthew 11:28


piacere - 8/6/2013 at 02:13 PM

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom".

Luke 12:32


DougMacKenzie - 8/7/2013 at 11:05 AM


piacere - 8/7/2013 at 02:31 PM

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life."

John 3:16


piacere - 8/8/2013 at 03:24 PM

"Truly I say to you, he who believes has eternal life".

John 6:47


DougMacKenzie - 8/9/2013 at 10:38 AM

Thank you for this day Lord. Amen.


piacere - 8/9/2013 at 04:12 PM

Jesus said to him, " I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me."

John 14:6


piacere - 8/10/2013 at 03:17 PM

"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you."

John 15:18


DougMacKenzie - 8/14/2013 at 10:45 AM

"For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

Ephsians 2:10

I just love this verse.


piacere - 8/14/2013 at 01:48 PM

"...Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of mine, even the least of them, you did it to me."

Matthew 25:40


piacere - 8/17/2013 at 02:52 PM

"But the one who endures to the end, he shall be saved."

Matthew 24:13


piacere - 8/18/2013 at 02:55 PM

" I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."

Luke 5:32


piacere - 8/19/2013 at 01:25 PM

But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?"

Luke 5:22


piacere - 8/20/2013 at 02:54 PM

" I am the good shepherd; and I know my own, and my own know me..."

John 10:14


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2013 at 12:12 PM


piacere - 8/28/2013 at 03:08 PM

"All that the Father gives me shall come to me, and the one who comes to me I will certainly not cast out."

John 6:37


DougMacKenzie - 8/30/2013 at 12:10 PM


piacere - 8/30/2013 at 02:52 PM

"Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time is"

Mark 13:33


DougMacKenzie - 9/2/2013 at 08:30 PM


piacere - 9/4/2013 at 02:42 PM

this one is in my top five of all time favorite verses from the Bible:

"I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hid these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children. Yes Father, for it was well pleasing in your sight."

Matthew 11: 25-26


piacere - 9/5/2013 at 01:41 PM

"To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted."

Matthew 13:11


geekfreak - 9/9/2013 at 02:23 PM

our STORM is still going on started 2012/07. when we both lost our jobs. monies is llow.
until 07/2013 when we found new work. sadly myy father-in-law just been told he as cancer. my mother is also unwell. but there are young chilren out there whom are going through cancer.


piacere - 9/11/2013 at 03:01 PM

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Matthew 7:21


piacere - 9/14/2013 at 02:32 PM

"Be dressed in readiness and keep your lamps alight."

Luke 12:35


piacere - 9/16/2013 at 02:09 PM

" I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me shall live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die."

John 11:25-26


piacere - 9/18/2013 at 04:01 PM

"And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone; so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your transgressions."

Mark 11:25


piacere - 9/19/2013 at 01:59 PM

And seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven you."

Luke 5:20


DougMacKenzie - 9/19/2013 at 05:58 PM


DougMacKenzie - 9/20/2013 at 12:06 PM

Though youths grow weary and tired, and vigorous young men stumble badly, those who wait for the LORD Will gain new strength; They will mount up with wings like eagles, They will run and not get tired, They will walk and not become weary.

Isaiah 40:30-31


piacere - 9/20/2013 at 02:04 PM

Amen to that, brother.


DougMacKenzie - 9/23/2013 at 01:01 PM


DougMacKenzie - 9/24/2013 at 10:22 AM

"This Is The Day The Lord Has Made, Let Us Rejoice and Be Glad In It"

Psalm 118:24


piacere - 9/24/2013 at 02:08 PM

"And the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart, and hold it fast, and bear fruit with perseverance."

Luke 8:15


piacere - 9/28/2013 at 04:31 PM

"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it."

Matthew 7:13


Enzo - 9/29/2013 at 08:06 PM

With every breath I take, every heart beat
Sunrise and the moon lights in the dark street
Every glance, every dance, every note of a song
All a gift undeserved that I shouldn't have known
Every moment I lie, Every moment I covet
I'm deserving to die, I'm earning your judgment
I, without the cross there's only condemnation
If Jesus wasn't executed there's no celebration
So in times that are good, in times that are bad
For any time I've had it all I will be glad
And I will boast in the cross, I boast in His name
I will boast in the sunshine, boast in His reign (rain)
What's my life if it's not praising You
Another dollar in my bank account of vain pursuit, I do
That count my life as any value or precious at all
Let me finish my race, let me answer Your call !


piacere - 9/30/2013 at 02:21 PM

Enzo.


Enzo - 10/1/2013 at 09:56 PM

"In the 4th century, an early Christian leader named Athanasius was confronted by the Roman emperor Theodosius. Athanasius was a bold, strong Christian who stood firm in his beliefs when others called him arrogant, stubborn, and narrow-minded. The emperor said to him, 'Athanasius, the whole world is against you.' He replied, 'Then Athanasius is against the whole world.'
Like Daniel in ancient Babylon, it takes courage to stand alone, but more and more it will be necessary. And if necessary now as the days get darker—in your office, your neighborhood, your community—how much more so will it be for your children?
You must learn to stand alone, not out of stubbornness, arrogance, or narrow-mindedness, but for Jesus and the principles of God's Word, for that which is true and will last throughout eternity. And teach your children to stand." ~ Adrian Rogers


Enzo - 10/1/2013 at 09:59 PM

piacere ,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAac0XBbUkg&feature=youtu.be

[Edited on 10/1/2013 by Enzo]


Enzo - 10/2/2013 at 11:52 PM

' For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope--the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.'
Titus 2 : 11-15


piacere - 10/3/2013 at 01:19 PM

quote:
piacere ,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAac0XBbUkg&feature=youtu.be

[Edited on 10/1/2013 by Enzo]


thanks, I checked that out.

"If anyone wishes to come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me..."

Luke 9:23


Enzo - 10/4/2013 at 12:30 AM

'Standing on the Promises'
Although Carter was a professed Christian most of his life, it wasn't until a crisis with his natural heart that he began to understand the reality and power of Bible promises. At age 30, his health was in critical condition and the physicians could do no more for him. Carter turned to God for help and healing.
He knelt and made a promise that healing or no, his life was finally and forever, fully consecrated to the service of the Lord. It was from that moment that the written Word of God became alive to Carter. He began to stand upon the promises of healing, determining to believe no matter what his physical condition, no matter how he felt. Over the course of the next several months his strength returned, and his heart was completely healed! Carter lived another healthy 49 years.
The hymn Carter had written several years before his healing miracle became more than words and music to him. Standing on the Promises became an integral part of his life.


DougMacKenzie - 10/4/2013 at 10:27 AM

You guys rock!


piacere - 10/4/2013 at 03:26 PM

quote:
You guys rock!


hey, you started it...

Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst."

John 6:35


DougMacKenzie - 10/5/2013 at 03:16 PM


Enzo - 10/5/2013 at 07:02 PM

"For where there is forgiveness, love grows. And where love grows, people are nourished." -Forgiveness



piacere - 10/7/2013 at 02:19 PM

If it's okay, I'm going to quote I, II and III John.

So, here goes...

What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we beheld and our hands handled, concerning the Word of Life---and the life was manifested, and we have seen and bear witness and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us---what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, that you also may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

IJohn 1:1-3


DougMacKenzie - 10/8/2013 at 10:45 AM


piacere - 10/8/2013 at 03:36 PM

And these things we write so that our joy may be made complete. And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

I John 1:4-5


piacere - 10/9/2013 at 03:38 PM

If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

I John 1:6-7

thank you Jesus, our Lord and Savior...


DougMacKenzie - 10/10/2013 at 10:24 AM

"....and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin."

Thank God.


piacere - 10/10/2013 at 03:13 PM

quote:
"....and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin."

Thank God.




I thank God every day that He chose me, a sinner, to offer His gift of faith and that He put it upon my heart to accept it in love and thanks.

Pretty awesome.

"If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

I John 1:8-9


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2013 at 10:18 AM


piacere - 10/11/2013 at 03:02 PM

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

I John 1:10


piacere - 10/14/2013 at 02:09 PM

My little children, I am writing these things to you that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

I John 2:1-2


piacere - 10/17/2013 at 04:25 PM

And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.

I John 2:3


piacere - 10/21/2013 at 01:17 PM

The one who says, "I have come to know Him", and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

I John 2: 4-6


piacere - 10/24/2013 at 04:08 PM

Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have heard from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard. On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining.

I John 2: 7-8


piacere - 10/25/2013 at 03:47 PM

The one who says he is in the light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now. The one who loves his brother abides in the light and there is no cause for stumbling in him.

I John 2: 9-10


piacere - 10/28/2013 at 02:36 PM

But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes. I am writing to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name's sake.

I John 2: 11-12


piacere - 10/29/2013 at 04:08 PM

I am writing to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I have written to you, children, because you know the Father.

I John 2: 13


piacere - 10/30/2013 at 01:46 PM

I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

I John 2:14


piacere - 10/31/2013 at 04:45 PM

Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

I John 2:15


piacere - 11/4/2013 at 03:19 PM

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

I John 2:16-17


DougMacKenzie - 11/12/2013 at 12:19 PM


piacere - 11/16/2013 at 06:57 PM

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that anti-christ is coming, even now many anti-christs have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.

I John 2: 18-20


piacere - 12/2/2013 at 03:23 PM

I guess we'll get back to IJohn...it's that time of year!

soon, we'll read about the birth of the One and Only!

Luke 2:1-14.


piacere - 12/4/2013 at 03:09 PM

Now it came about in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth. This was the first census taken while Quirinius was governor of Syria.

Luke 2:1-2


DougMacKenzie - 12/5/2013 at 11:26 AM

You rock my brother. Thanks for being so faithful.


piacere - 12/5/2013 at 03:14 PM

as you well know, it's all Him, my brother. It's all Him.

And all were proceeding to register for the census, everyone to his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, in order to register, along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and was with child.

Luke 2:3-5


DougMacKenzie - 12/7/2013 at 01:47 PM

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:38-39


piacere - 12/7/2013 at 05:56 PM

Amen.

And it came about that while they were there, the days were completed for her to give birth.

Luke 2:6


piacere - 12/9/2013 at 04:04 PM

And she gave birth to her first-born son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

Luke 2:7


DougMacKenzie - 12/10/2013 at 01:03 PM


piacere - 12/10/2013 at 03:48 PM

And in the same region there were some shepherds staying out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night.

Luke 2:8

(closing in on my absolute favorite Bible verse)


DougMacKenzie - 12/11/2013 at 01:29 AM

Sweet.


piacere - 12/11/2013 at 04:53 PM

quote:
Sweet.


the Sweetest my man, the Sweetest.


DougMacKenzie - 12/18/2013 at 01:31 AM

Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Matt. 6:19-21


piacere - 12/18/2013 at 04:29 PM

And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened. And the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people..."

Luke 2:9-10

"...do not be afraid..."


DougMacKenzie - 12/20/2013 at 01:23 AM

"...do not be afraid..."


piacere - 12/20/2013 at 04:28 PM

and now...here He is!

...for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Luke 2: 11

Father in heaven, we thank you for the gift of mercy, forgiveness and salvation. In the glorious and precious name of Christ our Lord.


DougMacKenzie - 12/23/2013 at 03:01 PM

Amen.


DougMacKenzie - 12/24/2013 at 02:53 PM

One of my very favorites:

Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—

The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.
You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as warriors rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
For as in the day of Midian’s defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
Every warrior’s boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.

Isaiah 9:1-7


DougMacKenzie - 12/25/2013 at 01:16 PM

Merry Christmas!


DougMacKenzie - 12/28/2013 at 01:08 PM

IN a world of steel eyed death
where men are fighting to keep warm
"Come in", she said,
"I'll give 'ya shelter from the storm."


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2013 at 01:43 PM

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound........


DougMacKenzie - 1/6/2014 at 11:54 AM

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:38-39


piacere - 1/6/2014 at 01:59 PM

I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

IJohn 2: 21


piacere - 1/8/2014 at 04:16 PM

Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist---he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father, whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

IJohn 2: 22-23


piacere - 1/13/2014 at 04:05 PM

See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what He promised us---even eternal life.

IJohn 2:24-25


DougMacKenzie - 1/14/2014 at 11:49 AM


piacere - 1/16/2014 at 03:34 PM

I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.

IJohn 2:26

(let's have that one sink in for a minute...)


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2014 at 12:09 PM

"I am a good shepherd, a good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep."

John 10:11


piacere - 1/21/2014 at 03:20 PM

As for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as His anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit---just as it has taught you, remain in Him.

IJohn 2:27


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2014 at 11:56 AM

The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he refreshes my soul.
He guides me along the right paths
for his name’s sake.
Even though I walk
through the darkest valley,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely your goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the Lord
forever

Psalm 23


piacere - 1/23/2014 at 04:30 PM

good one. Heck, they're all good.

And now, dear children, continue in Him, so that when He appears we may be confident and unashamed before Him at His coming.

IJohn 2:28


piacere - 1/24/2014 at 05:17 PM

If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of Him.

IJohn 2:29


DougMacKenzie - 1/26/2014 at 06:46 PM


piacere - 1/28/2014 at 03:50 PM

How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him.

IJohn 3:1


piacere - 1/29/2014 at 04:05 PM

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

IJohn 3:2


piacere - 1/31/2014 at 05:01 PM

Everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

IJohn 3:3


piacere - 2/3/2014 at 04:12 PM

Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that He appeared so that He might take away our sins. And in Him is no sin.

IJohn 3:4-5


piacere - 2/9/2014 at 03:05 PM

No one who lives in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known Him.

IJohn 3:6


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