Thread: Clapton covers Purple Rain

shep66 - 5/20/2019 at 10:57 PM

I just had to share this. Would never expect him to cover this tune. There;s been quite a few good covers since his death, but for me this is one of the best. Doyle Bramhall on rythym too. Wonderful rendition, wish Prince was still around. One of my all time favorite guitarists.

https://www.jambase.com/article/eric-clapton-purple-rain-prince-cover


musicmann - 5/21/2019 at 06:57 PM

Well done. Thanks for the post.


JimSheridan - 5/22/2019 at 03:33 AM

Very enjoyable. The song is a great fit for EC's singing and playing.

I didn't listen to Prince in his prime. In the 1980s, I loved metal and classic rock. I didn't understand where Prince was coming from.

I did start to like some of his songs but was distracted by what I perceived as the corny elements of his image. Never mind the many corny elements of metal and classic rock!

One thing that caught my eye was that there used to be a fanzine totally dedicated to bootlegs, called Hot Wax. (Was it Hot Waxx? Hot Whacks? I forget) Anyway, the bootleg market had an interesting kind of standard. Undoctored live recordings really tell you what is what...

As a result, there were not many popular Eagles bootlegs, because each Eagles show was pretty much the same as the last, and that one was the same as the album. Ditto Boston. Ditto the Cars.

There were not many popular metal bootlegs, because a lot of 80s metal bands sucked live. Ditto G'n'R. Ditto a lot of Grunge bands.

However....there were a ton of Prince bootlegs. His live shows smoked. They featured improvs and jams that the albums didn't; the songs were played with great skill and soul live; AND he had a ton of unreleased songs a la a Bob Dylan, that people wanted to hear.

Those are pretty big votes of confidence. Plus, any musician who spoke of the guy spoke of him with huge reverence.

So, I went out and bought a bunch of used Prince CDs probably around 2007 or 2008. It was all of the albums that had been the rage years before - Purple Rain, LoveSexy, Around the World in 80 Days or whatever. I bought perhaps 5 of them. And, while I finally recognized how tuneful and skillful his stuff was, with some great moments of guitar - it was all hopelessly awash in bad 80s/ 90s production, or at least the sounds I don't like: Electronic drums. Synth pads. Synth blasts instead of real horn sections. Argh.

Youtube has given me some very cool Prince. You certainly have to love his moment on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with Petty et al. CDs have not given me the cool Prince.


VTAB - 5/22/2019 at 03:54 PM

X2 Jim - i've seen some of Prince live performances (TV/Youtube etc) and could crank.

I listened to EC RAH shows and
thought Tearing us apart/Sheriff were the best. Doyle is also wonderful on those tracks.
Hes still a monster at 74 just not the monster of 41 years ago when I first saw him play live.


cyclone88 - 5/22/2019 at 04:21 PM

quote:
Very enjoyable. The song is a great fit for EC's singing and playing. I didn't listen to Prince in his prime. Youtube has given me some very cool Prince. You certainly have to love his moment on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with Petty et al. CDs have not given me the cool Prince.


I just had this discussion two nights ago. I never got Prince until recently when people I respect have done covers w/o all the 80s production and watching live performances.


tommars - 5/23/2019 at 01:49 PM

every few years I sort of write EC off. He seems to do it to himself also. But then I see a clip like this and I'm right back in it. The solo at the end of that song is tailor made for him.

As for Prince. I agree. There's just so much material to sift through but the gems are highly rewarding. I saw a bootleg VHS in 90's of him playing in a tiny club in Paris, just killing it. It reminded me of Hendrix's band of gypsies album.

I think he knew what it took to get Radio play in the 80's and he was very good at it. All those purple rain songs are amazing once you get past the production.

The purple rain movie is kind of cheesy in my opinion but the ending with him playing the song in the club is one of my favorite music film moments. They really captured the emotion and depth of that tune. I always loved the shot of the club owner looking floored by the song. It's like this perfect scene in an otherwise dated movie.


matt05 - 5/24/2019 at 01:15 PM

quote:
Very enjoyable. The song is a great fit for EC's singing and playing.

I didn't listen to Prince in his prime. In the 1980s, I loved metal and classic rock. I didn't understand where Prince was coming from.

I did start to like some of his songs but was distracted by what I perceived as the corny elements of his image. Never mind the many corny elements of metal and classic rock!

One thing that caught my eye was that there used to be a fanzine totally dedicated to bootlegs, called Hot Wax. (Was it Hot Waxx? Hot Whacks? I forget) Anyway, the bootleg market had an interesting kind of standard. Undoctored live recordings really tell you what is what...

As a result, there were not many popular Eagles bootlegs, because each Eagles show was pretty much the same as the last, and that one was the same as the album. Ditto Boston. Ditto the Cars.

There were not many popular metal bootlegs, because a lot of 80s metal bands sucked live. Ditto G'n'R. Ditto a lot of Grunge bands.

However....there were a ton of Prince bootlegs. His live shows smoked. They featured improvs and jams that the albums didn't; the songs were played with great skill and soul live; AND he had a ton of unreleased songs a la a Bob Dylan, that people wanted to hear.

Those are pretty big votes of confidence. Plus, any musician who spoke of the guy spoke of him with huge reverence.

So, I went out and bought a bunch of used Prince CDs probably around 2007 or 2008. It was all of the albums that had been the rage years before - Purple Rain, LoveSexy, Around the World in 80 Days or whatever. I bought perhaps 5 of them. And, while I finally recognized how tuneful and skillful his stuff was, with some great moments of guitar - it was all hopelessly awash in bad 80s/ 90s production, or at least the sounds I don't like: Electronic drums. Synth pads. Synth blasts instead of real horn sections. Argh.

Youtube has given me some very cool Prince. You certainly have to love his moment on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with Petty et al. CDs have not given me the cool Prince.



you don't think GNR was good live? what metal bands did you think were good live?



have you checked out the prince release THE UNDERTAKER on youtube? that is probably right up your alley


JimSheridan - 5/24/2019 at 02:14 PM

Matt05, I should probably do more homework on live G'n'R. However, back in the mid 90s, when I was enjoying the heck out of "The Spaghetti Incident" (I loved every Guns album, no joke), I heard a few G'n'R boots and was horrified at how shot Axl's voice sounded as compared to the insane heights that he hit in the studio. I remember comparing them to bootlegs of Pearl Jam, whose singer really COULD deliver live. I bet I would be more forgiving now. I have certainly enjoyed some of the clips of Axl with AC/DC.

I thought Iron Maiden and Dio were both great live. I have heard some very good Metallica live.

On the bad side: I saw Tesla, Ratt, Cinderella, and the David Lee Roth band live in person and have seen videos of Poison, Motley Crue, and AC/DC live. In all of those cases, the vocals were awful, and often the band's sound was tinny and thin. I am sorry to say that I have seen Deep Purple offer some hits and misses in the 5 times I have seen them, all depending on the singer and on Ritchie's moods.


matt05 - 5/25/2019 at 12:41 AM

quote:
Matt05, I should probably do more homework on live G'n'R. However, back in the mid 90s, when I was enjoying the heck out of "The Spaghetti Incident" (I loved every Guns album, no joke), I heard a few G'n'R boots and was horrified at how shot Axl's voice sounded as compared to the insane heights that he hit in the studio. I remember comparing them to bootlegs of Pearl Jam, whose singer really COULD deliver live. I bet I would be more forgiving now. I have certainly enjoyed some of the clips of Axl with AC/DC.

I thought Iron Maiden and Dio were both great live. I have heard some very good Metallica live.

On the bad side: I saw Tesla, Ratt, Cinderella, and the David Lee Roth band live in person and have seen videos of Poison, Motley Crue, and AC/DC live. In all of those cases, the vocals were awful, and often the band's sound was tinny and thin. I am sorry to say that I have seen Deep Purple offer some hits and misses in the 5 times I have seen them, all depending on the singer and on Ritchie's moods.



axls voice was always hit and miss especially the first few weeks of a tour after a long layoff

as for the rest of the bands you saw live, DLR voice was always hit and miss, same with vince neil of the crue. you are the first person i ever heard say anything about tesla not meeting your expectations. poison was a band you had to be at the concert to enjoy it

i always thought faster pussycat and warrant really delivered live.


canuckABBfan - 5/26/2019 at 08:37 AM

I had a chance to see Prince at a smallish theater here a few years before he died, I really wish now that I would have gone.

I didn't like him when he was big but I've grown to appreciate his guitar playing.


Lee - 5/26/2019 at 02:34 PM

quote:
Matt05, I should probably do more homework on live G'n'R. However, back in the mid 90s, when I was enjoying the heck out of "The Spaghetti Incident" (I loved every Guns album, no joke), I heard a few G'n'R boots and was horrified at how shot Axl's voice sounded as compared to the insane heights that he hit in the studio. I remember comparing them to bootlegs of Pearl Jam, whose singer really COULD deliver live. I bet I would be more forgiving now. I have certainly enjoyed some of the clips of Axl with AC/DC.

I thought Iron Maiden and Dio were both great live. I have heard some very good Metallica live.

On the bad side: I saw Tesla, Ratt, Cinderella, and the David Lee Roth band live in person and have seen videos of Poison, Motley Crue, and AC/DC live. In all of those cases, the vocals were awful, and often the band's sound was tinny and thin. I am sorry to say that I have seen Deep Purple offer some hits and misses in the 5 times I have seen them, all depending on the singer and on Ritchie's moods.


Different opinions I guess regarding a couple of the bands you mentioned. Tesla is my favorite metal band (if you want to call them that). Seen them a bunch of times and they are always great. Even when they switched out one of the guitars players they didn't miss a beat.

And I like Cinderella. Reminds me of being a teen. And their singer Tom Keifer, is great. I think he can play every instrument on stage. Impressive.


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