Thread: Duane Betts and his latent Dickey gene

Jonesy - 5/3/2019 at 08:10 PM

he doesn't just look like him anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UDdqLppOsQ


KCJimmy - 5/3/2019 at 08:17 PM

Holy Smoke you aren't kidding!


Bill_Graham - 5/4/2019 at 01:18 AM

Great stuff thanks for sharing. Got tickets to the Lowell Ma show in June yesterday. Really looking forward to it.


fender31 - 5/4/2019 at 05:48 PM

That is pretty good.


blackey - 5/6/2019 at 03:39 PM

Duane Betts went from just an okay guitar player to a great player while he was with Dawes.

When I first heard Duane had been invited to join Dawes I thought "why would a snappy young band want him? Duane did some okay guitar solos with the ABB on Dreams and Samething and in the 2000s with Great Southern it was clear he didn't have the chops to be the other lead player and Duane actually wasn't. Dickey had other guitar players including Dan Toler to play twin lead with.

I took a careful listen to Devon and Duane on YouTube this weekend and Duane Betts and Devon too and the other young man, Stachela, are real players now. They could stand next to Clapton or Billy Gibbons or John Bonamassa or Derek Trucks and not be worried they would get blown off the stage.


bluesboy57 - 5/6/2019 at 03:41 PM

Awesome!!!


BIGV - 5/6/2019 at 03:49 PM

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I took a careful listen to Devon and Duane on YouTube this weekend and Duane Betts and Devon too and the other young man, Stachela, are real players now. They could stand next to Clapton or Billy Gibbons or John Bonamassa or Derek Trucks and not be worried they would get blown off the stage.


As a player for over 40 years now, I am going to have to disagree with you here. First and foremost we disagree big time about the skill set of Billy Gibbons, nowhere near the ability of EC. While I agree that Duane Betts has grown exponentially as a guitarist, he is pretty one dimensional. Mr. Stachela has found a groove as a competent slide player and Devon is all facial expressions and no feel. Not all guitar players and their abilities are judged solely on their ability to play classic ABB songs. There is a huge world of music and style out there that ventures into classical, jazz, bluegrass and finger picking.

Imho, you want to have a discussion about "Real players"? Let's start with Tommy Emmanuel and go from there...


BIGV - 5/6/2019 at 04:18 PM

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So you are saying you think that Duane Betts, Devon Allman, and Stachela are hacks?


Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.

Your interpretation and stated opinion appear to be nothing more than attempt to start an argument in a thread where I have used what some may feel are flattering terms like "Exponential growth" and "Finding a groove"...Just an opinion my friend and if you had not noticed, this is not the Whippin' Post.


Skydog32103 - 5/6/2019 at 04:32 PM

Wow! Great stuff. I never expected much from this band but these videos are starting to change my mind. Let’s keep the positive vibes going...... thanks for sharing!


BrerRabbit - 5/6/2019 at 05:39 PM

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Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.


You didn't say "hacks", I realized the word was too strong so I deleted my post right away but you copied it before I did so.

Your post seemed to be saying you don't consider the guitar players in question to be "real players". To me a musician who is not a "real player" is a hack.

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Pretty one dimensional


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competent


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All facial expressions and no feel


Not exactly glowing reviews.






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VTAB - 5/6/2019 at 07:41 PM

I like the solo on one of dads premier songs and respect he has come a long ways. I have high hopes
in a few more years they will play almost as well as the band (members) that I love so much.
Keeping my fingers crossed, Blackey wow, dishing out some serious praise.


BrerRabbit - 5/6/2019 at 08:00 PM

Looking forward to these guys bringing their music to the northwest. Have heard some great reports from folks who went to the shows, rave-ups in fact.


BIGV - 5/6/2019 at 08:07 PM

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Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.


You didn't say "hacks", I realized the word was too strong so I deleted my post right away but you copied it before I did so.

Your post seemed to be saying you don't consider the guitar players in question to be "real players". To me a musician who is not a "real player" is a hack.

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Pretty one dimensional


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competent


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All facial expressions and no feel


Not exactly glowing reviews.

Edited on 5/6/2019 by BrerRabbit]


We hear different things... that’s a good thing


BrerRabbit - 5/6/2019 at 10:26 PM

Thx for the link jones, also blackey for the eval - when the earlier vids came out I was not impressed at all, pretty much ignored these guys, until a friend back east saw them last year and insisted, forget youtube you gotta hear them live, they have that magic ABB vibe. Now seeing blackeys write up since he is a spoiled original line-up lucky dog who wouldnt countenance a weak imitation of the ABB tradition . . . I will buy the ticket when they come around, for sure!


Jonesy - 5/6/2019 at 10:28 PM

As an old ABB fan (as obviously most of us are) the new ABB is a breath of fresh air. The boys seem to have a healthy respect for their lineage and want to also do their own thing. It is very cool to watch Duane play Jessica or Blue Sky, and for Devon to play Melissa or Midnight Rider. It is very cool to see Berry Oakley Jr playing the bass with energy and fun spirit.

I'd go see these guys in a heartbeat, and will. I think the big question is what kind of audience can they muster outside of the existing ABB audience. Their concert experience appears to be fun and from reviews I read, people are getting a lot more than they expected. Do they graduate to a genre similar to the Mule, or Tedeschi Trucks, or something else? I don't know. I do wish them the best though


blackey - 5/7/2019 at 01:22 AM

BIGV BrerRabbit .

I didn't mean to indicate Billy Gibbons was Eric Clapton or that the 3 guitar players in the Allman Betts Band can play a 15 song show trading licks with people like Eric Johnson or Gary Moore or Eddie Van Halen or Steve Via. Well Moore is dead so that wasn't a good choice.

I'm saying unlike the Duane Betts I was seeing at Allman Brothers shows sitting in on a couple of songs each night, the way Duane is playing now he could do a solo on a blues song or a Layla album song next to Clapton and not get blown off the stage.

Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.


BrerRabbit - 5/7/2019 at 03:14 AM

Thx man - Nah you were clear. I got it the first time round, they could hold their own without getting blown off stage. Not hard to understand. Thanks for the consideration though.


Skydog32103 - 5/7/2019 at 01:44 PM

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Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.


I love Clapton. He is definitely “bigger” than the ABB, Warren, and Derek, as far as success goes. Is Clapton “better” than they are at guitar? I’d say no. I say they are all pretty much on the same level.


BIGV - 5/7/2019 at 01:52 PM

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Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.


I love Clapton. He is definitely “bigger” than the ABB, Warren, and Derek, as far as success goes. Is Clapton “better” than they are at guitar? I’d say no. I say they are all pretty much on the same level.


I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


porkchopbob - 5/7/2019 at 02:45 PM

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His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged".


Not at all true, both Journeyman and 24 Nights were pretty solid hits, got a lot of radio airplay along with some solid touring. Even his 1980s albums that no one really remembers charted well. Never mind that "Tears in Heaven" was a hit single off of the Rush soundtrack the year before Unplugged.

I never really buy this guitar ranking business, some players are better at certain things than others, it's all subjective. How 'bout we all agree that Duane Betts has become a pretty solid guitar player after 15 years on the road?


BrerRabbit - 5/7/2019 at 05:20 PM

Got one of these for my birthday:


tcatanesi - 5/7/2019 at 10:57 PM

Mr. Dickey Betts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZg9MWLQ5_c


cmgst34 - 5/8/2019 at 01:48 AM

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I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


I don’t know where to begin here. Other than, if you’re not a Clapton fan that all good. But, don’t lose credibility by completely trashing him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea - nobody is - but he’s damn damn good, and IMHO deserves the pedestal upon which he’s often put.

I can’t quite figure out how someone could, with intellectual integrity, challenge Clapton’s skill/chops/whatever.


VTAB - 5/8/2019 at 03:23 PM

CMG x2, Cream, Blind Faith, Derek Dominoes, etc, EC is simply a beast. Yeah I get it not everyone's favorite but
solo career is also note worthy. The man has had more up and downs (addiction, broken marriages, losing a child) an yet continues.


BIGV - 5/8/2019 at 03:29 PM

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I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


I don’t know where to begin here. Other than, if you’re not a Clapton fan that all good. But, don’t lose credibility by completely trashing him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea - nobody is - but he’s damn damn good, and IMHO deserves the pedestal upon which he’s often put.

I can’t quite figure out how someone could, with intellectual integrity, challenge Clapton’s skill/chops/whatever.


I like EC, seen him in every decade, going to Phx in Sept to catch him again.....The man is a legend and there is no questioning his skills; don't see him as the best ever.


musicmann - 5/8/2019 at 04:32 PM

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I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


I don’t know where to begin here. Other than, if you’re not a Clapton fan that all good. But, don’t lose credibility by completely trashing him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea - nobody is - but he’s damn damn good, and IMHO deserves the pedestal upon which he’s often put.

I can’t quite figure out how someone could, with intellectual integrity, challenge Clapton’s skill/chops/whatever.


I like EC, seen him in every decade, going to Phx in Sept to catch him again.....The man is a legend and there is no questioning his skills; don't see him as the best ever.


Im a big EC and Jeff Beck fan, but am not sure how this thread devolved into an EC bash.
I thought it had to do with Duane/Dickey Betts.....


BrerRabbit - 5/8/2019 at 04:36 PM

Man if a thread on my guitar playing turned into anything mentioning Clapton positive or negative I would be honored that my name was on the same page!


redhouse1969 - 5/8/2019 at 05:44 PM

The thing with all of the guitarist mentioned is that when they are ( have been) at their best is comes with a high level of confidence in their ability.

For whatever reason I think the switch finally went on for Duane. I first noticed it on the videos surrounding Gregg's funeral jam at the big house... seemed to me that Duane was leading the various groups playing that afternoon...

Have also seen videos of him playing with Warren, Ronnie Earl, Jimmy Vivino and JD Simo recently... seems to be very comfortable.


Jonesy - 5/8/2019 at 06:57 PM

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The thing with all of the guitarist mentioned is that when they are ( have been) at their best is comes with a high level of confidence in their ability.

For whatever reason I think the switch finally went on for Duane. I first noticed it on the videos surrounding Gregg's funeral jam at the big house... seemed to me that Duane was leading the various groups playing that afternoon...

Have also seen videos of him playing with Warren, Ronnie Earl, Jimmy Vivino and JD Simo recently... seems to be very comfortable.


That is what I am seeing. Oddly never saw it in the DB and GS but only after. Was playing in his Dad's band too ominous a shadow? Whatever the case may be, he does seem confident and comfortable. There is a video, and i don't recall where, of Duane playing with Warren in Jamaica i think, and the Mule is playing Mountain Jam. Duane really went off on that one and it really surprised the heck out of me. I remember thinking "wow, he really has the feel now"


blackey - 5/9/2019 at 02:28 AM

Duane Betts' switch was flipped when he was invited Dawes. After a few tours he left Dawes but Duane said he was still good friends with Dawes.

During Duane's last year with Dawes and afterwards his playing improved 10 times over.

When I read Duane was joining Dawes, I was surprised. Duane Betts was an average guitar player who seemed the same to me for 20 years of seeing him sit in with the ABB in the 90s and GS in the 2000s. Something really clicked when he got with Dawes and away from Dickey. But I don't know specifically what caused Duane to have this rebirth if you will.


blueskyJohnson - 5/9/2019 at 01:38 PM

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Duane Betts' switch was flipped when he was invited Dawes. After a few tours he left Dawes but Duane said he was still good friends with Dawes.

During Duane's last year with Dawes and afterwards his playing improved 10 times over.

When I read Duane was joining Dawes, I was surprised. Duane Betts was an average guitar player who seemed the same to me for 20 years of seeing him sit in with the ABB in the 90s and GS in the 2000s. Something really clicked when he got with Dawes and away from Dickey. But I don't know specifically what caused Duane to have this rebirth if you will.


This is an easy one. Experience and constant playing. Just because Dickey stopped touring and playing, didn't mean Duane did. I recall seeing Derek Trucks with his band in early 2000. Thought he was good! But every year I saw him after with either his group or the ABB he got better and better. After his tour with EC, Derek's playing was off the charts good. It's just plain old hard work and experience if you ask me.

Also, Duane and Johnny really capture the ABB sound and vibe more so than any of the other "family" bands. Can't wait to catch them by me in July!!



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musicmann - 5/9/2019 at 02:02 PM

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Devon is all facial expressions and no feel.
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Bingo! Always thought he tried too hard as well. Saw him with the Royal Southern Brotherhood and thought Mike Zito outplayed him.


Jonesy - 5/9/2019 at 09:24 PM

So I found the Mountain Jam with Govt Mule and Duane Betts sitting in (Ron Holloway too). This is a smoking sequence of Melissa>Mountain Jam>Melissa. You think Duane was hanging with Warren? Watch Warren give Duane the nod at 13:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU6XZv3YGT8


KCJimmy - 5/9/2019 at 09:44 PM

When I was young I used to imagine the ABB covering some of my faves. I once dreamed of ABB playing Layla and it happened. I thought of other songs like Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad. It happened. There were others that didn't make as much sense as there really was no ABB connection, I just liked the songs, Night They Drove Dixie Down, etc. There were so many It got weird when it started happening. BUT I NEVER EVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE ANYONE DO THIS...

Melissa>Mountain Jam>Melissa

But it worked!. I thought Duane did good on Melissa too. Sounded a lot like his dad. I do miss the ABB


Jonesy - 5/9/2019 at 09:54 PM

KC Jimmy, Duane sat in on Jessica with the Mule from the same show. Very strange watching Duane and Warren on this tune but Warren seems to smile at times when Duane hits the note.

Duane's tone is so pure and so much like Dickey its scary. I dig watching this stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kAxr-DUWts


KCJimmy - 5/9/2019 at 10:11 PM

I am very happy to see them doing this. They need a Trucks to sit in. How many little Johnsons are there? Just the daughter if I recall. Wonder if she can sing or play anything?


MarkRamsey - 5/14/2019 at 12:29 AM

I guess I was way wrong when I used to think if you were going to be very good it would show up by age 25 or so. I always thought Duane was just average but something happened in the last few years and he has taken off like a rocket. I also thought Derek was just average without a slide on his finger but again something happened and for me his straight lead stuff has just exploded. Of course with a slide he was great in 1st grade.


JimSheridan - 5/14/2019 at 02:51 AM

I finally watched this video! Good stuff indeed.

I'll throw down a few ideas:

1. At a live show where you see the players, some body language matters. One of my guitar heroes is Mick Taylor. Gorgeous player, amazing tone, vibrato, note selection, melodic sense. However, live, at times, especially if the conditions are right, he has looked so painfully uncomfortable that it makes the audience uncomfortable. I remember seeing him at The Wetlands where he was NOT getting the sound he wanted, and he looked like he was in agony, gesticulating at the soundman, frowning, shaking his head, all throughout the sound. Everyone there felt his discomfort and absorbed it, and called it an off night for Mick.

However, the recording of the show sounded just fine. No better or worse than many other shows that tour. My eyes had fooled my ears at that show, in a way.

Our eyes are sensory organs, as are our ears. I'm not saying that every player who dances or plays behind his head sounds great suddenly, but some players do effectively broadcast their notes with their bodies. In an odd way, I learned this when I saw my daughter do ballet; she was illustrating the music with her body.

I think a confident attack on the guitar matters in the snap of the notes - Tommy Bolin had it, Angus Young has it, etc - and we hear that percussive SNAP with our ears - but sometimes our eyes bring that information to us also. It's actually an awful dilemma for me personally, because I do play guitar in a band, and I am a very awkward human being, and I know that I do not sell my solos with my body. I look sheepish at best. I have the facial expression of a middle-aged man holding his kid's Barbie doll at the mall while she goes the bathroom. It's not good.

So it IS good that Duane has gotten that confidence in his body language. He is not doing a Jimi Hendrix humping the guitar in this video, but he has at least reached the David Gilmour body language level.

There is the uber extreme, the Johnny Thunders thing where you play terribly but look confident, and sell it that way, and a certain audience does dig that. I can grok. It is rock'n'roll. I am certainly uneasy with posers who oversell the emphasis on Kool Stage Movezzz. Hair metal had some rough moments, boy. I'm looking at you, JayJay French from Twisted Sister.

2. Confidence in your playing means you can work with what Dickey Betts and a lot of blues players use to perfection: space; holding a note; repetition for effect; tension and release. A great speaker is so confident that he can pause after a line and give "wait time"; he doesn't need to rush to the next words out of a fear of dead air. This is key in a classroom also; a good teacher can ask a question and wait confidently without immediately saying "Bueller? Bueller?" to hasten the answer. A great speaker might repeat the same line a few times to really milk it.
PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER? is a classic.
Some guitarists rush to fill the space with different notes, with more notes. They get squirrel fingers. Duane's comfortable, confident sense of knowing he can just do some repetition of the right notes with the right tone without desperately needing to jump into the next thing really works well, and it does take some confidence and knowledge to do that right.

3. Big V, I will be a douche and quibble a little with semantics. It's why I get paid the big bucks. You said "Imho, you want to have a discussion about "Real players"? Let's start with Tommy Emmanuel and go from there..." I would argue that you END with Tommy Emmanuel. He is such a wizard, like a Steve Howe or Danny Gatton or other absolute mutant master of guitar, Joe Pass maybe, atop the pantheon of astonishing jaw-dropping technique meets melody that he is almost incomparable.

I'd say "Let's start with George Harrison or Mike Campbell." Even that is wrong. Those are two guys whose taste, tone, touch, and melodic sensibilities are so amazing that they played guitar lines that the world is STILL SINGING them.

Maybe I'd say "Let's start with George Thoroughgood or the guy from Eddie Money's band who played the solo on 'Two Tickets to Paradise.'"
Thoroughgood ain't no Derek Trucks. I despised him the 80s when I worshipped Lifeson. However - he has mastered his tone, he gets the notes he wants, and they rock the room. We ask the philosophical question "If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound?" Well, we can also ask, "If George Thoroughgood plays a solo at a club and everyone gets up and shakes their tails, how can it not be good?" There is something to recognize there.
That solo in "Two Tickets to Paradise," like the one in "Baker Street" or "So Caught Up In You" or a zillion other FM hits that are by guitarists I cannot name (OK the guy in 38 Special is named Jeff Carlisi I think) are good examples of memorable playing by guys who names we don't remember. They did SOMETHING right. They are not in my pantheon, yet they are embedded in the collective consciousness .....

I'm rambling, and you know the IPA is to blame. I hope you take no offense. I love talking music and guitar. Duane Betts is getting there. He has nailed his tone and his attack. I hope to hear him craft the solo that I remember as distinctly his.


Agerst1574 - 5/14/2019 at 07:41 AM

Wow, so many things I want to respond to. First to the person who posted Duane became a better player when he joined Dawes. I agree wholeheartedly. I remember seeing Duane with Dickey when Dickey and just thought he was in the band because he was Dickey’s son. Nothing stood out and it was just a perfunctory performance.

I have friends who are huge Dawes fans. I never got into them until I saw them at the Christmas Jam in 2015. Killer set. They ended up doing “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” as an encore. Taylor Goldsmith is a vastly underrated guitar player and Duane pushed him to play. Taylor did the same with Duane. You could see the confidence grow with Duane. I saw them 8 months later In Cincinnati at the Taft Theater and you could tell something was going on with the band. Duane looked bored on stage and soon afterwards he left the band. I saw Dawes a couple of months afterwards without Duane and thought they missed him. Most Dawes fans would disagree with me, but he was the reason I went to see them live.

I saw the Allman Betts band in Florida in March. Stachela might be the best player of the bunch. He really impressed me as he did when I saw him in the band when they opened up for Dickey. Duane played like he did not have a care in the world and I mean that as a compliment. Just went up and did his thing and sounded great. My problem was with Devon. Not a big fan of his showboating and I don’t think he plays as well as the other guys.

Regarding the first Eddie Money album, I love that album and one major reason is the guitarist. Yes, I know the name. Jimmy Lyons. I love the guitar playing and tone on the album. He was also able to cut it live. He played on the first two albums.


islalala - 5/14/2019 at 03:36 PM

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So I found the Mountain Jam with Govt Mule and Duane Betts sitting in (Ron Holloway too). This is a smoking sequence of Melissa>Mountain Jam>Melissa. You think Duane was hanging with Warren? Watch Warren give Duane the nod at 13:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU6XZv3YGT8


This is terrific! Thanks for posting

I always wanted the brothers to stretch out Melissa. Such a beautiful melody to jam on


Jonesy - 5/17/2019 at 06:29 PM

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So it IS good that Duane has gotten that confidence in his body language. He is not doing a Jimi Hendrix humping the guitar in this video, but he has at least reached the David Gilmour body language level.

Some guitarists rush to fill the space with different notes, with more notes. They get squirrel fingers. Duane's comfortable, confident sense of knowing he can just do some repetition of the right notes with the right tone without desperately needing to jump into the next thing really works well, and it does take some confidence and knowledge to do that right.

3 I love talking music and guitar. Duane Betts is getting there. He has nailed his tone and his attack. I hope to hear him craft the solo that I remember as distinctly his.


Following up on what Jim said (I paraphrased his post)--check out Duane on this Jessica from last week. Watch how his confidence has grown. In particular watch how he puts the band through paces and takes control starting with the break in Jessica before the piano solo. Very interesting, pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whdJM7quvSY


Jonesy - 5/21/2019 at 08:39 PM

Here's another blistering Jessica. In particular check out Oakley Jr. He is a monster!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GyixAd-yqc


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