Thread: Dickey Sarasota 5/15/2018

chasenbluesman - 5/17/2018 at 04:35 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcCz7D2X3CU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DENtHgS8XQ


BIGV - 5/17/2018 at 04:46 AM

Man, "Hot 'Lanta" was tough to watch


chasenbluesman - 5/17/2018 at 05:20 AM

There was a better quality video posted of "Blue Sky" (that has since been deleted) that was filmed from right in front of Dickey onstage. Not trying to be nasty or dump on him, And i understand that 3-4 yrs of rust would be hard for anyone one to try and deal with and this was a rehearsal gig etc,etc... But it was hard to listen to.


74Jer - 5/17/2018 at 08:14 AM

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180516/review-dickey-betts-band-debuts- in-sarasota



http://www.jambands.com/news/2018/05/16/dickey-betts-returns-to-the-stage-f or-live-rehearsal-in-florida


Wis608 - 5/17/2018 at 12:51 PM

What was that!!!! Sheesh! They needed a rehearsal for the rehearsal show. I had a feeling this was gonna bomb. It looks like a lot of folks got swindled in buying tix's for the Beacon show thinking it was going to be some grand revival of ABB music. Wow,sorry but that was bad.


Jonesy - 5/17/2018 at 02:11 PM

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What was that!!!! Sheesh! They needed a rehearsal for the rehearsal show. I had a feeling this was gonna bomb. It looks like a lot of folks got swindled in buying tix's for the Beacon show thinking it was going to be some grand revival of ABB music. Wow,sorry but that was bad.


that was a legend in his 70's who hasn't played live in over three years on a stage, and probably didn't play much at all during that period. When an athlete is injured and doesn't play for awhile, often their "rehab" games are not much to watch and it takes time for them to get back into the swing of things. To me, their is an analogy here. I think most people who attended simply wanted to see him play. I don't know that anyone has the expectation of some grand revival of ABB music unless you are looking at Duane Betts and Devon Allman.


griff - 5/17/2018 at 02:46 PM

Reminds me of when I paid to see Willie Mays in 1973 when he got traded back to New York for the last go round.
We cheered for what once was and to live it again in the moment before that moment is gone for good.
I wanted Dickey to work up an all acoustic band and do a small venue tour.
Play stuff from Highway Call etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4OWPbG7Ck


[Edited on 5/17/2018 by griff]


Counselor - 5/17/2018 at 03:43 PM

Well they do have 2 months of practice time before the Beacon.....


nypeachhead - 5/17/2018 at 04:46 PM

The man has arthritis, had a cut on his right hand and is 74 yrs old. He is a living legend who decided to do some shows for the fans. He does not need the money, he did it for the fans.

At the end of the day, we all have a choice to spend the money or not. I am just feeling blessed to be able to see the man in the hat one more time and get to say goodbye possibly for the last time at the Beacon theatre. Just grateful to have Dickey on the road, listen to that Dickey tone and watch him grace the stage one more time at the Church of Music which is the Beacon!


Fretsman - 5/17/2018 at 05:13 PM

Amen. They need to find their center, Damon has some shoes to fill with Andy gone. I heard a couple sour bends, but those notes will be found. I'm excited for the 2 I'll be catching in NY. I'm sadly working for the Beacon show.

On a happy note, Mike Kach sounds great on Whipping Post. He's a sweet Gent who was struggling with sclerosis of the liver and was in pretty bad shape for while. I love the guy and to hear the strength return in his vocals is literally music to my ears. I saw him in a couple clubs in Florida in 2015 realized what an ugly infliction it can be. His wizardry on the keys never left him, but he was working hard to conquer it, God Bless Him.

I have realistic expectations and with that I'm expecting some special shows with some special people.

...................

[Edited on 5/17/2018 by Fretsman]


emr - 5/17/2018 at 05:16 PM

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Reminds me of when I paid to see Willie Mays in 1973 when he got traded back to New York for the last go round.
We cheered for what once was and to live it again in the moment before that moment is gone for good.
I wanted Dickey to work up an all acoustic band and do a small venue tour.
Play stuff from Highway Call etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4OWPbG7Ck


[Edited on 5/17/2018 by griff]


When Mays tripped in the outfield during the 73 world series there was an article in the NYT that stated "an entire generation got old today."

Yeah we're older; but hoping for just a hint of magic at the Beacon. I was at Shea when Mays somehow got a homer over the wall in right (seemingly by inches) his first game back at Shea. Wasn't the Willie I saw in 1962 - but it was the best Wille I could ever see again


porkchopbob - 5/17/2018 at 05:40 PM

Yeah, the chronic cranks here aren't surprising anyone. No one ever expected these shows to be 1992 again, or even 2014. But he's surrounded by guys who know the material and him, and Damon Fowler is just as good as Andy (definitely a better slide player). People have been asking Dickey to go back out on the road for nearly 5 years, he's not taking anyone's money.

Dickey is back on stage. Friends of mine who are going know what to expect. But they want to see Dickey, in Macon no less, play guitar one last time, possibly alongside Jaimoe - which, if it happens, would just be an amazing moment to witness regardless.


Shavian - 5/17/2018 at 06:53 PM

I'm as sentimental as the next person and was intrigued to see what Dickey would bring to these shows.

Having seen the videos, I would keep my money in my pocket, I think. The rest of the band sounded pretty good but Dickey just dragged them down, which was sad to hear.

Those who want to go just to see and pay tribute to Dickey will happily do so and suspend their critical faculties. Those who would prefer to remember him in his pomp might be having second thoughts. Which is all how it should be.

As for not needing the money, charging $60 for a rehearsal suggests otherwise. If they felt the need to play before an audience, I'm sure 1,000 people could have been assembled for free or a nominal amount.

It's refreshing to be able to express unfavourable opinions on here, as the fan group on Facebook won't tolerate adverse views.



BIGV - 5/17/2018 at 06:55 PM

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Those who want to go just to see and pay tribute to Dickey will happily do so and suspend their critical faculties. Those who would prefer to remember him in his pomp might be having second thoughts. Which is all how it should be.



porkchopbob - 5/17/2018 at 07:21 PM

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As for not needing the money, charging $60 for a rehearsal suggests otherwise. If they felt the need to play before an audience, I'm sure 1,000 people could have been assembled for free or a nominal amount.



Dickey might not need the money, but the other 6 working musicians and road crew, not to mention the venue, probably appreciate it.

Personally, I'm not too bummed I can't make these shows. I'm content to remember the last show he did in NYC in 2014, which was excellent. I totally appreciate not wanting to witness the final ride, but I can totally appreciate those who want one last hang with their guitar hero. Playing music takes its toll: guitarists' fingers get less dexterous and adventurous, lungs lose their capacity, drummers' joints get worn down, etc. Like leafsonthwind said, it's all about expectations, and most people I know who bought tickets did so sentimentally and realistically.


Shavian - 5/17/2018 at 07:55 PM

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As for not needing the money, charging $60 for a rehearsal suggests otherwise. If they felt the need to play before an audience, I'm sure 1,000 people could have been assembled for free or a nominal amount.


Dickey might not need the money, but the other 6 working musicians and road crew, not to mention the venue, probably appreciate it.


Agreed, about the other band members, at least; the venue would welcome 1,000 thirsty and hungry customers, I'm sure.

But the bottom line is that it was a rehearsal. I don't think I've ever heard of an act charging full prices for a rehearsal, which is by definition a practice and not an official performance.

Iron out your fluffs and bum notes in private, or expose them to the paying public at your peril.


porkchopbob - 5/17/2018 at 08:08 PM

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Agreed, about the other band members, at least; the venue would welcome 1,000 thirsty and hungry customers, I'm sure.

But the bottom line is that it was a rehearsal. I don't think I've ever heard of an act charging full prices for a rehearsal, which is by definition a practice and not an official performance.

Iron out your fluffs and bum notes in private, or expose them to the paying public at your peril.


I agree $60 is steep for general admission to a bar. I imagine the venue determined the door - sure they'd make money on drinks, but why not make even more money on the local legend? And you know what? It sold out. Prices to his remaining shows are all over the place depending on the venue. But I have seen other artists have woodshedding shows, and the venue still charged a cover.


Jonesy - 5/17/2018 at 08:24 PM

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Agreed, about the other band members, at least; the venue would welcome 1,000 thirsty and hungry customers, I'm sure.

But the bottom line is that it was a rehearsal. I don't think I've ever heard of an act charging full prices for a rehearsal, which is by definition a practice and not an official performance.

Iron out your fluffs and bum notes in private, or expose them to the paying public at your peril.


I agree $60 is steep for general admission to a bar. I imagine the venue determined the door - sure they'd make money on drinks, but why not make even more money on the local legend? And you know what? It sold out. Prices to his remaining shows are all over the place depending on the venue. But I have seen other artists have woodshedding shows, and the venue still charged a cover.


This was not admission to a bar except in the literal sense. That was why it sold out at that price. It was a one off to see a legend. He also obviously did it at his own peril (whether he cared or not). Just look at some of the thoughts expressed here! I am sure this was for his band and the joint, obviously not a money grab for Betts.


porkchopbob - 5/17/2018 at 08:49 PM

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I agree $60 is steep for general admission to a bar. I imagine the venue determined the door - sure they'd make money on drinks, but why not make even more money on the local legend? And you know what? It sold out. Prices to his remaining shows are all over the place depending on the venue. But I have seen other artists have woodshedding shows, and the venue still charged a cover.


This was not admission to a bar except in the literal sense. That was why it sold out at that price. It was a one off to see a legend. He also obviously did it at his own peril (whether he cared or not). Just look at some of the thoughts expressed here! I am sure this was for his band and the joint, obviously not a money grab for Betts.


I agree, Jonesy, it was "General Admission" in that it was standing room only, no seating. I honestly can't tell if you're trying to argue or agreeing with what I've written on this thread (I'm leaning towards "agreeing"). I was pointing out that the venue likely sets the price - the festival in Boca ($65 for the day) and the show in CT ($150-$200), it makes it clear.


Fretsman - 5/17/2018 at 09:18 PM

I went and paid more than twice that amount for the Music Of Led Zeppelin Rehearsal at the City Winery, Tash didn't even have his guitar and had to borrow Jackie's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue5IB42kICg


Jonesy - 5/17/2018 at 09:22 PM

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I agree, Jonesy, it was "General Admission" in that it was standing room only, no seating. I honestly can't tell if you're trying to argue or agreeing with what I've written on this thread (I'm leaning towards "agreeing"). I was pointing out that the venue likely sets the price - the festival in Boca ($65 for the day) and the show in CT ($150-$200), it makes it clear.


I think I am agreeing! Nevertheless to my way of thinking this is all about context and perspective versus the literal facts of the venue price and the quality of the performance. Of course we want a great performance. I see a very intriguing scenario here that has nothing to do with Betts actual abilities to play guitar today. I believe he is in part doing this as a tribute to Gregg Allman. Nobody has commented, that I can see, on the setlist of this show but you can clearly see they played Midnight Rider and Whipping Post--something DB and GS never did--even back in the 70's. Also he is playing with his son, who is emerging in his own right. He is playing with Devon Allman, and I am sure Devon will be singing these tunes tonight. Tonight's show will be a memorable one just because of the symbolism and the warmth. I really hope Jaimoe shows up tonight to play with them. It will be cathartic and emotional. So the first "rehearsal" show was a start to more, and Isuspect many of the people who bought those 60 dollar tickets felt similarly. Betts could have continued whatever he was doing but he felt the need to do this for reasons well beyond the actual performance. Good for him


BIGV - 5/17/2018 at 09:28 PM

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I really hope Jaimoe shows up tonight to play with them. It will be cathartic and emotional.


>>>>>>>>This will happen!


fender31 - 5/17/2018 at 10:11 PM

I have a feeling his playing will be better as time goes on.


MartinD28 - 5/17/2018 at 10:59 PM

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I agree, Jonesy, it was "General Admission" in that it was standing room only, no seating. I honestly can't tell if you're trying to argue or agreeing with what I've written on this thread (I'm leaning towards "agreeing"). I was pointing out that the venue likely sets the price - the festival in Boca ($65 for the day) and the show in CT ($150-$200), it makes it clear.


I think I am agreeing! Nevertheless to my way of thinking this is all about context and perspective versus the literal facts of the venue price and the quality of the performance. Of course we want a great performance. I see a very intriguing scenario here that has nothing to do with Betts actual abilities to play guitar today. I believe he is in part doing this as a tribute to Gregg Allman. Nobody has commented, that I can see, on the setlist of this show but you can clearly see they played Midnight Rider and Whipping Post--something DB and GS never did--even back in the 70's. Also he is playing with his son, who is emerging in his own right. He is playing with Devon Allman, and I am sure Devon will be singing these tunes tonight. Tonight's show will be a memorable one just because of the symbolism and the warmth. I really hope Jaimoe shows up tonight to play with them. It will be cathartic and emotional. So the first "rehearsal" show was a start to more, and Isuspect many of the people who bought those 60 dollar tickets felt similarly. Betts could have continued whatever he was doing but he felt the need to do this for reasons well beyond the actual performance. Good for him


I think your perspective is right on, and you hit a lot of good points in one paragraph. Well stated!


Fretsman - 5/17/2018 at 11:38 PM

I saw this posted on Dickey Bett's fans facebook page, WOW, Duane having at it with the Dad in the Hat watching, Special....

https://www.facebook.com/catherine.rossi.98/videos/10214196110808963/UzpfST EzOTE3MTMxNjI0NDE5Mjo5MTMwMDk0Nzg4NjAzNjg/


matt05 - 5/18/2018 at 01:17 AM

what was the setlist


robslob - 5/18/2018 at 02:19 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Southern-Atlanta-Burning-Dickey/dp/B0037TPI94/ ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526609580&sr=8-1&keywords=dickey+betts+ and+great+southern

Just in case anyone's interested: I always thought Great Southern was one of the best records Dickey ever made. Had it on vinyl but last I looked (probably 10 years ago) the CD was out of print. No Mas! Amazon has Great Southern and Atlanta's Burning Down packaged together for $11.99!


matt05 - 5/18/2018 at 02:34 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Great-Southern-Atlanta-Burning-Dickey/dp/B0037 TPI94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526609580&sr=8-1&keywords=dickey+ betts+and+great+southern

Just in case anyone's interested: I always thought Great Southern was one of the best records Dickey ever made. Had it on vinyl but last I looked (probably 10 years ago) the CD was out of print. No Mas! Amazon has Great Southern and Atlanta's Burning Down packaged together for $11.99!


i have that but i got mine more than 8 years ago. its on anther label too. just glad to have it on cd


chasenbluesman - 5/18/2018 at 03:18 AM

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what was the setlist


Dickey Betts' May 16 setlist:
1. “Hot ’Lanta”
2. “Statesboro Blues”
3. “Nothing You Can Do”
4. “Midnight Rider”
5. “Blue Sky”
6. “Get Away”
7. “Seven Turns”
8. “Whipping Post”
9. “In Memory of Elizabeth Reed”
10. “Ramblin’ Man"


Midnight Rider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7PT9_5IAdE


WaitinForRain - 5/19/2018 at 12:48 AM

White Buffalo lol.

Show was not that great. Proving his playing at the equally hard to watch TTB sit in was no mistake.

It was nicely nostalgic to hear that famous vibrato again. Not worth $60.

For Rock Dinos, If rather go see kick ass RnR from Neil Young or Rolling Stones than a nostalgia act.

DB gave us his best. Paying to see him off like paying full price to hear Steve Stills sing horribly off key: ridiculous.


CanadianMule - 5/19/2018 at 01:31 AM

Wow - it is not a life or death moment here people.

As The Stones sang "It's Only R&R".

Guess what 9 out of 10 guys in their 70s don't perform as well as they did in the 1970s. Nor does any athlete, artist, comedian, etc.

If your expectations in life are that everything should remain at it's peak - always - then you are doomed to be let down.

Dickey will get in the swing. Damon will just improve every show. Pedro is always a monster. The band can smoke when in a groove.


hotlantatim - 5/19/2018 at 01:45 AM

Well, last night in Macon was worth every penny. And sounds like it was a big jump up in precision. But it was also a lot more than that, too. Very spiritual night all around.


Werner - 5/19/2018 at 01:45 PM

It makes me very sad to see how little respect Dickey gets on this site from so called ABB fans. This tour isn't about wether Dickey can still bring it or not. This tour is Dickey's way to round things out and perhaps his farewell to the extended family. To see Dickey and Jaimoe together on stage again....in Macon...back where it all began....surrounded by so many excited fans.....brings tears to my eyes. I'm sure Duane, Gregg, Berry and Butch smiled down on them! It's healing time folks! Some people get it, some narrow minded do not.

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by Werner]


fast43 - 5/19/2018 at 03:02 PM

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It makes me very sad to see how little respect Dickey gets on this site from so called ABB fans. This tour isn't about wether Dickey can still bring it or not. This tour is Dickey's way to round things out and perhaps his farewell to the extended family. To see Dickey and Jaimoe together on stage again....in Macon...back where it all began....surrounded by so many excited fans.....brings tears to my eyes. I'm sure Duane, Gregg, Berry and Butch smiled down on them! It's healing time folks! Some people get it, some narrow minded do not.

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by Werner]


Great post

I drove 1000 miles round trip to see the Macon show. I wasn't expecting 1973 Richard Betts but It was worth every penny I spent and I'd go back tomorrow if I could. There were rough moments and there were moments when Dickey was as Duane once said " The good one" He sounded like a 74 year old man but his voice was strong. It did kind of bum me out to him have to sit down on a stool from time to time. But I need to sit sometimes too and I'm only 60.

He certainly got a lot of respect from his peers. Bonnie Bramblet sang with him, Jaimoe played on Whipping post. I saw Jack Pearson, Johnny Neel, Chris Anderson and Lamar Williams Jr. in the crowd.

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by fast43]

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by fast43]


blackey - 5/19/2018 at 03:17 PM

Werner it's because this site seems to involve a lot of people who for them the Allman Brothers is the last line up. It must be they discovered the band around 2001 or later and were dazzled by Warren, Derek and Otiel like I was dazzled by Duane, Dickey and Berry on the front line when I first saw the band in 1970.

Dickey was much better in Macon. I didn't see the Florida show but the videos of it I watched were hard to hear as the sound was apparently recorded from the audience but one could tell Dickey struggled and even had to sit on a stool. But the years of hard living were showing in 2014 and earlier. Gregg was having the same just not as much until it became impossible to play period.

Dickey has a beautiful home and is a millionaire 40 times over. He is attempting this limited tour because people keep pushing him to play again and to pay tribute to Gregg.

No other lineup can deliver the old songs like the original lineup and the proof is on the live cuts on Eat A Peach and of course At Fillmore East.

If there is a version of Liz Reed by the last line up that equals or tops the original lineup I haven't heard it.
Somebody link it for me so I can stand corrected.

Dickey and Jaimoe are ABB royalty and with Dickey time and lifestyle have taken their toll but he is a huge part of the ABB sound, legacy, history and original material.

If Duane and Berry had lived they may be struggling now. Who knows how the original band would sound today. My brother saw Frank Sinatra not long before Frank died. His voice and range was pretty much gone and he couldn't remember the words so he looked at a TV monitor and still blew the lyrics on one of his famous songs. He stopped and said " I'm sorry folks. I'm so sorry
". A man in the balcony stood up and yelled " That's alright Frank. We are here because we love ya" and he began clapping. Then the entire audience stood and Frank got a 5 minute standing ovation which brought tears to his eyes. Harry Connick,Jr. could have nailed all the lyrics without a TV monitor and sang circles around an 80 year old Frank who smoked and boozed it for decades. But the crowd was there to see a legend one more time. I saw a late BB King show just a couple years before he died. He had to sit and he hit some clams on his guitar and dropped a lyric a couple of times. If it were a new singer/guitar player I would have wanted my money back. But I didn't because I was seeing BB King.


MartinD28 - 5/19/2018 at 05:20 PM

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Dickey was much better in Macon. I didn't see the Florida show but the videos of it I watched were hard to hear as the sound was apparently recorded from the audience but one could tell Dickey struggled and even had to sit on a stool. But the years of hard living were showing in 2014 and earlier. Gregg was having the same just not as much until it became impossible to play period.

Dickey has a beautiful home and is a millionaire 40 times over. He is attempting this limited tour because people keep pushing him to play again and to pay tribute to Gregg.




Dickey is playing these gigs for the fans - many of us are lifetime fans who have followed the band since the '70's. Also there are younger fans who have joined the ride as the years progressed. As you pointed out, he's set financially and doesn't need the several thousand $ that these gigs would pay him. Sure - it helps the band mates, but it is Dickey's willingness to go out and play for those who have appreciated him through the years.

To have Duane Betts & Devon Allman along with Jaimoe on the shows is a plus. That says something in itself.

I only wish there would have been a show near me, but it isn't in the making at least for now.

If I had a chance to tell DB "thanks", it would be for the great tunes he has penned and for his unique style of guitar playing.

There are a bunch of musicians on this site who have learned much from Dickey. I for one, hope that I can still be playing guitar and singing at 75 years old.

Thank you, Dickey Betts.





[Edited on 5/19/2018 by MartinD28]

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by MartinD28]


sixty8 - 5/19/2018 at 08:21 PM

I have seen the videos and at this point I am better off just not saying anything. It is what it is. He is 74 years old. I wish him nothing but the best and will see him perform at a festival in July. My expectations are extremely low so maybe by then with more gigs played I will be pleasantly surprised??? If not I can always cut out early and beat traffic being they are the headliner for the day. I also get Devon and Duane that day along with Little Feet and Hot Tuna so all will be good either way.


DJTrader - 5/20/2018 at 01:07 PM

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It makes me very sad to see how little respect Dickey gets on this site from so called ABB fans. This tour isn't about wether Dickey can still bring it or not. This tour is Dickey's way to round things out and perhaps his farewell to the extended family. To see Dickey and Jaimoe together on stage again....in Macon...back where it all began....surrounded by so many excited fans.....brings tears to my eyes. I'm sure Duane, Gregg, Berry and Butch smiled down on them! It's healing time folks! Some people get it, some narrow minded do not.

[Edited on 5/19/2018 by Werner]


It’s not disrespect, it’s an honest critique of what people are getting for their money...nothing.

Sorry you can’t handle the truth.


pixielf - 5/21/2018 at 08:08 PM

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Dickey and Jaimoe are ABB royalty


'Nuff said!


porkchopbob - 5/22/2018 at 10:33 PM

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Werner it's because this site seems to involve a lot of people who for them the Allman Brothers is the last line up. It must be they discovered the band around 2001 or later and were dazzled by Warren, Derek and Otiel like I was dazzled by Duane, Dickey and Berry on the front line when I first saw the band in 1970.


This isn't the case at all. I've never seen one person here claim the final lineup was the best. For decades fans have come here to chat about Dickey and Duane and Berry, so we all know the legends and histories that you feel the need to recount and retell every other post for some reason. Most of the folks here know and love those well-worn tales, but we all also live in the present, and it's more exciting to discuss the music that is currently being made, that more people here likely witnessed. Most folks are incredibly excited for the remaining ABB family reunion that is happening this year, but there are always going to be a few vocal cranks who will complain that it isn't 1971, or even 1992 anymore. I'm just glad that even in 2018 there is still a little magic to witness from these guys.


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