Thread: Question about the re-issued Fox Box

ABBDutchFan - 2/27/2018 at 06:25 PM


I have a question about the 2017 re-issue of the Fox Box. I know that some edits were made regarding lengthy crowd noise (which resulted in this re-issue being 8 discs in stead of the original 9) and read comments and reviews stating that the re-styled packaging was a bit flimsy. The 3 shows are in cardboard digipacks (orange, green and purple) stored in a (indeed flimsy) cardboard outer box. Well, today i received this Fox Box which i bought on eBay. It's from an Asian seller. The CD's themselves are inside the digipacks and are protected by very thin / flimsy transparant plastic sleeves. So no regular paper envelopes. How did you receive your Fox Box bought from this site or other US retailers? Because the CD's were in those very flimsy plastic sleeves and there was a bit of glue residue somewhere on the box my first reaction was: "i hope this isn't one of those Asian counterfeit products". I never heard of an ABB product being counterfeited like that. It's usually bigger acts / household names like Bowie, Beatles and Stones of which boxsets were pirated. So maybe i'm just a bit paranoid. Any help is welcome.

Cosmogeek - 4/11/2018 at 03:15 AM

I have the same concerns. I recently bought this on eBay, and what I received looks counterfeit. The construction is just like a Pink Floyd counterfeit Box Set I got a few years ago. The discs come in flimsy plastic sleeves. The gate-fold sleeves are glued together in such a way, that as you push the discs in, the sides pinch the disc, and the disc separates the glue joint. The result is that the the discs tend to get stuck in the glue. I think this is why the discs are in the flimsy plastic sleeves - to protect the discs from the glue.

I have posted a review on Amazon with some pictures. You can follow this link to check out the photos: w_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01NC3CY10

I'm hoping somebody can confirm if what I have is the standard packaging, or do I have a counterfeit?

WarEagleRK - 4/11/2018 at 03:38 AM

If you order an item from Asia and much lower price than what it seems to be going for it is likely a bootleg. They have somehow been able to get boots of these big boxes on the market quickly. I know all of the recent Bowie boxes have been knocked off. I got one of the Bowie boxes on ebay from China and you could immediately tell the difference with the cheap plastic sleeves vs the good quality ones that the vinyl replica CD's from Japan have. (The big difference was the Bowie boxes have gold backed CDs, and the boots were silver.) You can usually tell by the quality of the box or the sleeves that the CDs are in.

The good thing is if you got it from Amazon or Ebay you can generally get your money back for a counterfeit product. I even sent them a link to a write up on the Steve Hoffman forums of fans discussing the Bowie boxes being knocked off to give extra proof.

[Edited on 4/11/2018 by WarEagleRK]

Cosmogeek - 4/11/2018 at 05:57 AM

The problem I am having, is getting that definitive proof that what I have is counterfeit. Until I can find somebody that bought a reputable copy, and can tell me that it is different than what I have, then I only have my suspicion. The fact that what I have is constructed identically to Asian counterfeits, is not sufficient. I have not been able to find any photos, or descriptive reviews, that would give me absolute proof. I am quite convinced that I have a counterfeit, but the person I bought it from, is not convinced.

njpaulc - 4/11/2018 at 01:00 PM

My set came in cardboard box with each show in it's separate cardboard tri fold or duo fold sleeve. There is no plastic packaging at all.

Cosmogeek - 4/11/2018 at 01:36 PM

My set came in cardboard box with each show in it's separate cardboard tri fold or duo fold sleeve. There is no plastic packaging at all.

Thank you. That is what I wanted to know. I suspect that your disc hubs have some identifying part number laser etched around the hub also.

njpaulc - 4/11/2018 at 06:55 PM

Yes opposite the label side

Cosmogeek - 4/11/2018 at 07:37 PM

Yes opposite the label side

Thanks for that. Do you recall where you purchased your copy?

njpaulc - 4/12/2018 at 01:03 PM

IT was a gift, but I am sure it was Amazon.

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