Thread: Please Help With Emergency Thank You

ArleneWeiss - 3/24/2017 at 06:10 PM

Rowland I hope it is ok to post this on the forum and I apologize for imposing. If not then just delete it. I apologize folks for coming to you. GO FUND ME I set up. Lots of you know that I am an (unpaid) freelance journalist) who has interviewed Gregg Allman and Derek Trucks many times but now I have run into an emergency that I don't know or have a way out of. Any help is appreciated.

I'm a Disabled, 55 year old whose car was destroyed by a tractor trailer. I need to get an apartment of my own and a new small compact car to get to my Disabilities medical care. Thank you & God Bless you. PLEASE SHARE THIS GOFUND ME POST ON FACEBOOK & OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA

https://www.gofundme.com/urgentneedsaw

FYI folks, the part of my GoFundMe regarding also wanting help to get my own apartment since I've never had my own apartment and have rented rooms all my life,

YES I am on the Section 8/Baltimore County Housing Voucher Program but it has a TEN year waiting list.

Baltimore City's Section 8 Housing Voucher Program is CLOSED and NOT accepting applications.

I don't qualify for Senior Housing provided by Associated Catholic Charities and Associated Jewish Charities (you do NOT have to be Catholic or Jewish, but you DO need to be 62 and over and receiving either Social Security or SSI. I am 55 years of age and NOT receiving SSI as I keep getting denied.

There are a handful of units in a few of ACC and AJC for people UNDER 62 years of age with Disabilities if and once you might get SSI BUT they have a 7 year waiting list and you MUST apply through the Section 8 program anyhow, which is CLOSED for Baltimore City (where most of the properties are) and anyhow there is a 7 year waiting list. I will be 62 in 6 years as I turn 56 in June.

Please folks, I see people have been clicking on this thread by the thousands but people are NOT helping. If you go on the forum you will see my THREE interviews with Derek Trucks, my TWO interviews with Gregg Allman, my REVIEW of Gregg's book My cross To Bear, and if you click on my name you will see my many interviews with Doyle Bramhall II, Buddy Guy, Joe Bonamassa, YES's Jon Anderson, etc, for which I did not get paid (which was NOT a choice I have tried for years to get writing jobs that paid and I got a handful here and there from 1999 to 2003, but then the paid gigs dried up and everytime I have applied for paid writing gigs they are not hiring, only the ones that don't pay have published my work, which for 20 years I did around my full and part time day jobs at medical and real estate & mortgage companies and still was paid so little that I only ever lived in single unfurnished rented rooms. Now my health is so bad with corneal eye ulcers, ocular eye hypertension, bleeding stomach ulcers, anxiety, depression that I must have a real apartment and a car (since my 13 year old car was totalled on 3/16/2017 by a tractor trailer on a parking lot) to get to my many doctors and treatment.

Would people please help out any way they can. Anything is appreciated and helpful and I implore you all. Please.

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BrerRabbit - 3/24/2017 at 06:25 PM

Consider my donation payment for the free subscription to the topnotch interviews you post here. About the cost of a year of MOJO. Sorry for your troubles, may you regain some balance, and keep those fantastic interviews coming, they are a bright spot on this site, makes it pretty exclusive.


ArleneWeiss - 3/24/2017 at 06:32 PM

Thank you Scotty and God Bless You for your kindness so very much. You always are so supportive of my writing which means very much to me. Thank you again and have a blessed weekend. :-)


anthonyspare - 3/24/2017 at 08:12 PM

We have never spoken or crossed paths, Arlene, but being a member on this site says something about you. Donation left, wish it could have been more and I hope your luck turns around.
-A


ArleneWeiss - 3/24/2017 at 09:11 PM

Thank you Anthony for your kindness and understanding so much. Have a great weekend and God Bless You. :-)


mscott - 3/25/2017 at 01:54 PM

Hi Arlene, I don't know you but as a big music and Allman Brothers fan I admire your commitment to your music journalism in the face of the challenges in your life. I hope you find peace, security and health and have made a small donation. I hope many others in this great community will do the same. Keep the faith!


ArleneWeiss - 3/25/2017 at 03:25 PM

FR Betts, from one Dickey Betts fan to another, I thank you for your kindness and support. Have a blessed weekend. :-)

Mscott, your kind and supportive words are comforting and full of hope and I thank you. Thank you also for your support and kind gesture. Have a blessed weekend. :-)


ladymule - 3/26/2017 at 05:53 PM

Arlene, can you contact your local newspaper and/or tv news possibly to have someone do a story on you and your situation and promote your GO FUND ME? My sis in law had an expensive medical emergency for her son (not covered under our single payer health insurance in Canada) and she went to the CBC and they did a story which included info on her GO FUND ME. The family got a lot of donations subsequent to the publication.


ArleneWeiss - 3/26/2017 at 08:32 PM

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Arlene, can you contact your local newspaper and/or tv news possibly to have someone do a story on you and your situation and promote your GO FUND ME? My sis in law had an expensive medical emergency for her son (not covered under our single payer health insurance in Canada) and she went to the CBC and they did a story which included info on her GO FUND ME. The family got a lot of donations subsequent to the publication.


Hi Lady Mule. I already have emailed and called all 4 of my local news stations repeatedly and none have even answered me. I will email them again on Monday. WJZ, WMAR, WBAL and WBFF all in Baltimore to no avail at several email addresses including the newsroom and I have called. But again this is the town that raised over $100,000 for Toya Graham the "hero" mom (sarcasm) whose act of heroism was her slapping her criminal son who was participated in the Baltimore riots April 2015 and after putting her all over the local news, she appeared on the Today Show, A Current Affair, and Oprah who gifted her with another $30,000, and then Graham set up a SECOND GoFundMe this year and raised ANOTHER $80,000 for her and her 6 kids. The woman is a convicted felon and recovering addict but that' what is considered worthy of helping in this town.

Don't know if you were aware that in July 2016, historic Ellicott City, Maryland suffered a catastrophic flood that killed 2 people and destroyed the homes, cars, belongings, pets and businesses of all the shop owners that lived there over top of their own shops and restaurants there, yet they got next to nothing on their GoFundMe's, but people keep on giving hundreds of thousands of dollars for TWO GoFundMe's to Toya Graham. Celebrity and notoriety are all that count in Baltimore.


ladymule - 3/26/2017 at 09:59 PM

Here's another thought: how about showing up in person to all these media outlets and insisting on speaking personally with the decision making people either by making an appointment or talking to someone right there and then. It's harder to say no to a person face to face. Easy to ignore emails and calls.

Also, go to local newspapers too.

[Edited on 3/26/2017 by ladymule]


ArleneWeiss - 3/27/2017 at 04:23 PM



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ArleneWeiss - 3/27/2017 at 07:30 PM

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Here's another thought: how about showing up in person to all these media outlets and insisting on speaking personally with the decision making people either by making an appointment or talking to someone right there and then. It's harder to say no to a person face to face. Easy to ignore emails and calls.

Also, go to local newspapers too.

[Edited on 3/26/2017 by ladymule]



Not a good idea to show up in person, they only do things through appointments and have security to make sure people don't just show up because I've seen people do that on the news. When I call they won't put me through to the news desk and give me interns or receptionists who drop the call, stick me on hold, won't listen to my story, etc. Very upsetting & frustrating. I will try emailing again. I just don't know what else to do.

I did just RE-Email the same local news stations and I also took your advice and emailed several local newspapers and magazines. People please pray for me and I mean that with all of my heart. Pray for me. :-(


ladymule - 3/27/2017 at 08:24 PM

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Here's another thought: how about showing up in person to all these media outlets and insisting on speaking personally with the decision making people either by making an appointment or talking to someone right there and then. It's harder to say no to a person face to face. Easy to ignore emails and calls.

Also, go to local newspapers too.

[Edited on 3/26/2017 by ladymule]



Not a good idea to show up in person, they only do things through appointments and have security to make sure people don't just show up because I've seen people do that on the news. When I call they won't put me through to the news desk and give me interns or receptionists who drop the call, stick me on hold, won't listen to my story, etc. Very upsetting & frustrating. I will try emailing again. I just don't know what else to do.

I did just RE-Email the same local news stations and I also took your advice and emailed several local newspapers and magazines. People please pray for me and I mean that with all of my heart. Pray for me. :-(


Oh, good to hear you're following up with local newspapers and magazines. Please consider showing up in person to those print locations if need be. Wishing you the best.


gina - 3/27/2017 at 11:34 PM

First off Baltimore is not a good place to be. They have a HUGE population with a heroin problem, they do not have many jobs, housing is not very affordable. If you can relocate to someplace more laid back that would probably help. Consider a small, reliable used car, as long as it gets you from point A to point B, that is what you need. If you can go to a place with a good mass transit system that might help also. I understand the housing problems, you need to be in a town where there is affordable housing, even if it is a rental/trailer. Everyplace has doctors, that should not be a barrier to you relocating. I would also recommend churches for food pantries. If you don't have a list, social services can give you a list of pantries, or you can look online to get addresses, then call them and find out specifics. Once you get to someplace else, see if you can work remotely from home someplace, you may have to look for awhile; but be open to taking some part time work or seasonal work if it is there. Don't get discouraged, because God is always with you. He amazes me all the time, even though things are not very good with me either. (housing and finance wise). I just refuse to accept defeat. Challenges help you grow spiritually, and like the man said "Let Your Soul Shine".


ArleneWeiss - 3/28/2017 at 07:52 PM

Have very frequently used food and toiletry pantries at churches and charities but this crisis is like a mountain, the one Gregg sang of in Dreams.

Went up on the mountain,
To see what I could see,
The whole world was fallin',
right down in front of me

'Cause I'm hung up on dreams I'll never see, yeah Baby.
Ahh help me baby, or this will surely be the end of me, yeah.

Please folks I IMPLORE you, whatever you can spare will help and I deeply appreciate. Thank you.


CanadianMule - 3/28/2017 at 08:29 PM

No car insurance paid after your accident? Not sure on various US laws but illegal to drive in Canada with no insurance. A transport company would definitely have insurance so they should be covering your loss unless there is something that I am missing in the story.

Trying to raise $60000? I wish you all the luck in the world but that seems like quite a lofty fund raiser online.

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ArleneWeiss - 3/29/2017 at 09:39 PM

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No car insurance paid after your accident? Not sure on various US laws but illegal to drive in Canada with no insurance. A transport company would definitely have insurance so they should be covering your loss unless there is something that I am missing in the story.

Trying to raise $60000? I wish you all the luck in the world but that seems like quite a lofty fund raiser online.

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Yes the tractor trailer driver has commercial insurance for the parent company of the truck he was driving.....BUT!!!!!....I live in the USA, Maryland to be specific. I already consulted with at least a dozen attorneys. Maryland is very strict legally in that if you are NOT PHYSICALLY INJURED from an accident where someone else at fault hits you (the tractor trailer hit and crushed my parked locked car on a shopping center parking lot...BUT I was NOT in the vehicle, so I was NOT INJURED. I was on the parking lot and WITNESSED the accident and screamed for the truck driver to stop as he tried to do a hit and run and tried to drive off of the parking lot).

Anyhow...in Maryland if you are NOT PHYSICALLY INJURED which I was NOT, then you cannot sue and have no legal recourse through accident attorneys because you are NOT physically injured. Even emotional pain and suffering must be as the DIRECT RESULT from PHYSICAL INJURY. IF you are NOT physically injured then all you get is the payout of the value of your vehicle less how many years old it is and what kind of make, model it is, and what kind of shape it is in. I had a 13 year old economy car Sentra that was fairly banged up BEFORE the accident. Your own car insurance pays you what they say it is worth, MINUS your deductible, which is next to nothing and THEN your insurance does what's called a legal subrogation to get your deductible back from the other responsible party's insurance (in this case the commercial company that owned the tractor trailer truck that the driver was driving for.)

P.S. Since this is the internet information age, I googled car accident attorneys who represent clients/car accident victims with NO Personal/physical injury and the only state where attorneys who do this that came up is TEXAS...which has different laws. In TEXAS, even if you are NOT PHYSICALLY INJURED, you CAN sue for Emotional Pain and suffering and attorneys take a hard line on this in Texas and can recover money in a lawsuit for you but NOT in Maryland.

I EMAILED an Attorney I found in Texas and asked for his advice etc, and he also Reiterated all of this and said that because I live in Maryland I am SOL/screwed. The only alternative is to sue at my OWN expense in small claims court which is NOT viable for this as you can only sue for damages up to $5,000 and you spend your OWN money, UP FRONT for all attorney and legal costs and court costs and filing fees and then even if you win you have to pay for a judgement attorney to file a judgement and there is no guarantee that you will be able to collect any money from the other party even if you win. Whereas when you can sue via a personal injury accident attorney you pay NO FEES whatsoever unless you win.

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CanadianMule - 3/29/2017 at 11:43 PM

Sorry to hear as that just sucks. Without cash for the lawyer, I guess your options are limited legally.


ArleneWeiss - 3/30/2017 at 04:21 PM

Folks, sorry to ask, but if you have been enjoying my interviews with Gregg Allman and Derek Trucks or my book review of Gregg's "My Cross To Bear" or all of my other interviews with many artists including Buddy Guy, Doyle Bramhall II, Bo Diddley, Jorma Kaukonen, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, Joe Bonamossa & Black Country Communion, The Kinks' Dave Davies, The Marshall Tucker Band's Doug Gray, Clarence Gatemouth Brown, Lloyd Maines, YES's Jon Anderson, Bryan Adams, I have posted most on the ABB forum, PLEASE HELP ME out here as best as you can.

Anything will help towards a new car ..all I need is another little economy carwith a trunk that gets me to my weekly many regular doctors for my pre-existing disabilities and medical care. I don't need anything fancy, nothing expensive, just another Nissan Sentra like I had that was totalled. or maybe a Hyundai Accent or Nissan Versa something along those lines that also gets affordable gas mileage and will take me to my doctor appointments, medical procedures, to fill my many regular prescriptions, the grocery store, etc. Thank you all for your support and kindness. :-)


ladymule - 3/30/2017 at 05:45 PM

Arlene, are you involved with your local music scene and know the local musicians in your city? If so, maybe you could talk with some local musician friends and ask if they could organize a musical fundraiser for you. My experience is that most local musicians are willing to step up and play for free for a good cause when asked.


ArleneWeiss - 3/30/2017 at 06:39 PM

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Arlene, are you involved with your local music scene and know the local musicians in your city? If so, maybe you could talk with some local musician friends and ask if they could organize a musical fundraiser for you. My experience is that most local musicians are willing to step up and play for free for a good cause when asked.


No, only national. A few local musicians who know me from many years ago when I used to review local bands in a free newspaper have pitched in to the GoFundMe and I have thanked them. By the way I have put notes up on my facebook Journalism page appealing to many of the national artists that I have interviewed and reviewed some many times over the years which helped their films, CD's, music, books, photos and helped them to earn a living but not a single one has helped.


ArleneWeiss - 3/31/2017 at 03:08 PM

FYI folks, the part of my GoFundMe regarding also wanting help to get my own apartment since I've never had my own apartment and have rented rooms all my life,

YES I am on the Section 8/Baltimore County Housing Voucher Program but it has a TEN year waiting list.

Baltimore City's Section 8 Housing Voucher Program is CLOSED and NOT accepting applications.

I don't qualify for Senior Housing provided by Associated Catholic Charities and Associated Jewish Charities (you do NOT have to be Catholic or Jewish, but you DO need to be 62 and over and receiving either Social Security or SSI. I am 55 years of age and NOT receiving SSI as I keep getting denied.

There are a handful of units in a few of ACC and AJC for people UNDER 62 years of age with Disabilities if and once you might get SSI BUT they have a 7 year waiting list and you MUST apply through the Section 8 program anyhow, which is CLOSED for Baltimore City (where most of the properties are) and anyhow there is a 7 year waiting list. I will be 62 in 6 years as I turn 56 in June.

Please folks, I see people have been clicking on this thread by the thousands but people are NOT helping. If you go on the forum you will see my THREE interviews with Derek Trucks, my TWO interviews with Gregg Allman, my REVIEW of Gregg's book My cross To Bear, and if you click on my name you will see my many interviews with Doyle Bramhall II, Buddy Guy, Joe Bonamassa, YES's Jon Anderson, etc, for which I did not get paid (which was NOT a choice I have tried for years to get writing jobs that paid and I got a handful here and there from 1999 to 2003, but then the paid gigs dried up and everytime I have applied for paid writing gigs they are not hiring, only the ones that don't pay have published my work, which for 20 years I did around my full and part time day jobs at medical and real estate & mortgage companies and still was paid so little that I only ever lived in single unfurnished rented rooms. Now my health is so bad with corneal eye ulcers, ocular eye hypertension, bleeding stomach ulcers, anxiety, depression that I must have a real apartment and a car (since my 13 year old car was totalled on 3/16/2017 by a tractor trailer on a parking lot) to get to my many doctors and treatment.

Would people please help out any way they can. Anything is appreciated and helpful and I implore you all. Please.



[Edited on 3/31/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


BrerRabbit - 3/31/2017 at 07:32 PM

Yes for sure, awesome interviews. Put em in an e-book and get the stack out there Arlene!


ArleneWeiss - 4/1/2017 at 03:56 PM

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Yes for sure, awesome interviews. Put em in an e-book and get the stack out there Arlene!


Thank you Scott you are always so supportive of my writing. :-)

Everybody, MANY of my interviews are re-posted on the ABB Forum under my name. If you like and appreciate my work (for which I do NOT get paid), then PLEASE HELP me and donate something to help me out here. THIS is WHY I am in this position in the first place, if people would have paid for my work in the first place I would not be in this crisis situation. It seems that the publishers, editors AND READERS, want to read content that they don't pay the writers for and so I have NOT been able to earn a living. I'm distraught, scared and don't know what to do.

PLEASE HELP and donate whatever you can to help me out here. Thank you.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs




[Edited on 4/1/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


ladymule - 4/2/2017 at 05:37 AM

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I'm distraught, scared and don't know what to do.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


Brothers and Sisters, if you are able, please consider making a contribution. It will make a positive difference in a fellow sister's life. Please consider helping Arlene.



[Edited on 4/2/2017 by ladymule]


CanadianMule - 4/2/2017 at 02:34 PM

There may be thousands of views but it is likely the same people checking in and non-members viewing.

Hard pressed to believe that there are more than 50 regular posters. I think perhaps that your expectations of how much this forum/group can help out are too high.

I feel for you and your situation but I think you should be working on a different plan. $60000 from this method will not happen especially with this forum seeming to be your major support so far.

My prayers are with you. I chose a career in the music business and long ago I came to a conclusion - there is no money in it especially from writing. Countless others doing the same thing and the internet created millions more. But I chose my path. Without a means to sell your writings, it was a hobby. Sorry if that sounds cold but it is the truth. When I worked in radio, there was an endless supply of "volunteers" who would tell me that they worked in radio. Only a job if you get paid. The industry uses them and then spits them out.

I think that this forum may provide more help with peoples' ideas and experiences than financial gains. It seems that you are getting angry with the results from this forum. I am sure that your situation is causing those emotions. But don't think anyone here wishes you anything but the best. Remember that most views are by non-members and the ones left posting are fewer in number than you may think.

Hope some solutions arise that can provide the help that you need.


WaitinForRain - 4/2/2017 at 06:01 PM

Nearly 1700 views, and just over 1200 dollars sounds generous to me as people are going to return to the thread to see what happened. I think the amount you are asking for is unrealistic for this forum. Unrealistic without national support. I've seen local children with brain tumors and cancer patients have to work really hard to raise less than half that.

If $20 is the average donation, you need 3,000 donations. Which means you may need to reach hundreds of thousands of people. Your time is better spent working on a marketing campaign, IMO. Not getting frustrated with this little old forum.

I am sorry for all you have endured, and continue to endure. May you find peace and support.





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porkchopbob - 4/2/2017 at 06:20 PM

Regarding help with transportation, Baltimore has a mobility program for people who need help getting around. Worth looking in to, I've known people who were very happy with similar programs in other East coast cities.

http://mdod.maryland.gov/transport/Pages/Mobility-and-Paratransit.aspx

https://mta.maryland.gov/mobility


ArleneWeiss - 4/2/2017 at 06:24 PM

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Nearly 1700 views, and just over 1200 dollars sounds generous to me as people are going to return to the thread to see what happened. I think the amount you are asking for is unrealistic for this forum. Unrealistic without national support. I've seen local children with brain tumors and cancer patients have to work really hard to raise less than half that.

If $20 is the average donation, you need 3,000 donations. Which means you may need to reach hundreds of thousands of people. Your time is better spent working on a marketing campaign, IMO. Not getting frustrated with this little old forum.

I am sorry for all you have endured, and continue to endure. May you find peace and support.

[Edited on 4/2/2017 by WaitinForRain]


I was not frustrated with this forum and everyone has been kind. I was frustrated when I saw the thousands of views compared to help. And the 3 new donations only happened when I just went on since Saturday night (last night) until that there was NO activity for days now. And my concern was with everything, not this forum as I have reposted my GoFundMe in MANY places repeatedly mostly on my FOUR Facebook pages, not just here.

This thread and forum is not the only place I have posted this and appealed. I have repeatedly posted my GoFundMe and info. on my Regular Facebook Page, My 2nd Facebook Journalism Page where much of my writing and clips of my journalism work is posted, and on a 3rd and 4th Facebook pages that I run, which is a Facebook page that I run for actor Jean Reno who I have interviewed and has alot of fans, and on my Facebook page that I run for the Detective TV series "Jo" which Jean Reno stars in that has alot of fans. I also have appealed to both my personal friends and my business friends, and people in the local and national music, film, and arts industry who I have repeatedly interviewed, covered, reviewed, and supported and helped earn a living or helped to make their CD, live music, records, books, films, artwork, photography sell.

*****Also, I NEVER counted on my writing to pay any bills or support me, and on my GoFundME I did INFORM EVERYONE that I until I became Disabled, I only wrote part time AROUND my FULL TIME REGULAR DAY JOBS at medical offices, and real estate and mortgage firms. None of these jobs paid a decent living or a livable wage, (I have never been paid more than $12 an hour and usually $9-$10 an hour for corporate office jobs that I was skilled in including being a paralegal and a contract administrator, most of my jobs had NO health benefits, and MOST made me work UNPAID overtime and also OFF THE CLOCK, often also doing personal errands for my bosses using my car and on my personal time and dime all for which I did NOT get paid, (and which is illegal but if I said anything my employers would threaten to fire me so I kept my mouth shut). Most of my jobs REQUIRED a college degree which I have, but never paid a livable wage which is WHY I only ever rented rooms all my life (except for ONE year in 1989 when I rented a one room efficiency which I could not afford).

I want to thank everyone on this forum who has supported my writing, offered encouragement throughout the years, and also are helping and donating during this crisis. God Bless you all :-)




[Edited on 4/2/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


PhotoRon286 - 4/2/2017 at 07:01 PM

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Nearly 1700 views, and just over 1200 dollars sounds generous to me as people are going to return to the thread to see what happened. I think the amount you are asking for is unrealistic for this forum. Unrealistic without national support. I've seen local children with brain tumors and cancer patients have to work really hard to raise less than half that.

If $20 is the average donation, you need 3,000 donations. Which means you may need to reach hundreds of thousands of people. Your time is better spent working on a marketing campaign, IMO. Not getting frustrated with this little old forum.

I am sorry for all you have endured, and continue to endure. May you find peace and support.





[Edited on 4/2/2017 by WaitinForRain]


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WaitinForRain - 4/2/2017 at 07:01 PM

What I am saying is if we can elevate you out of your usual circles your FB pages will get hits and you will get more support. It would be great if someone with a wider audience would include your GFM posts. Having 4 fb accounts is not the same as having 4 very active FB accounts. Or even 1. It would be great even if something could land on Rolling Stone or another national outlet.

You need more exposure. Just sayin'

Peace Out.


ArleneWeiss - 4/2/2017 at 07:09 PM



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ArleneWeiss - 4/4/2017 at 03:40 PM

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What I am saying is if we can elevate you out of your usual circles your FB pages will get hits and you will get more support. It would be great if someone with a wider audience would include your GFM posts. Having 4 fb accounts is not the same as having 4 very active FB accounts. Or even 1. It would be great even if something could land on Rolling Stone or another national outlet.

You need more exposure. Just sayin'

Peace Out.


Thank you I have thought of that as well. I have continuously and repeatedly called and emailed and also contacted via Social Media all of my local news stations, newspapers, human interest community affairs reporters, and even The Today Show and Oprah who do special things such as this, but NONE of them have answered me.


CanadianMule - 4/4/2017 at 03:56 PM

None of them will likely get back to you. As sad as your situation is and I hope you find answers, there are many far worse off by comparison in every city. Sad but true.

When I worked media, these types of requests for help were a constant. Some real and some cons but a steady flow regardless. Without kids/illness involved or some "feel good" angle, they won't touch it. Even churches would be hard pressed to help much as the demand upon them is usually large and they will usually help the hungry with children first.

But a church may also provide some assistance on where to get help.


ArleneWeiss - 4/4/2017 at 10:07 PM

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None of them will likely get back to you. As sad as your situation is and I hope you find answers, there are many far worse off by comparison in every city. Sad but true.

When I worked media, these types of requests for help were a constant. Some real and some cons but a steady flow regardless. Without kids/illness involved or some "feel good" angle, they won't touch it. Even churches would be hard pressed to help much as the demand upon them is usually large and they will usually help the hungry with children first.

But a church may also provide some assistance on where to get help.


Actually that "feel good" angle or the people with children or sick is not usually the case. I had posted earlier on here that July 2016 the entire community of Historic Ellicott City, Maryland (about 20 minutes from me) suffered a catastrophic flood. 2 people DIED. All of the shop owners and restaurant owners LIVED over top of their businesses. They all lost EVERYTHING, their homes, their businesses, their cars, their pets. It was all over the NATIONAL news many times and showed these people hysterical in tears as the county council man and disaster relief crews brought the home/business owners in one by one to view the devastation. One lady literally collapsed and fainted when she saw a giant tree and a mudslide through her shop and home. Yet ALL of these people set up GoFundMe's and barely made a dime. No one cared or gave a crap and these people truly lost everything that they worked hard all of their lives for and were lucky to get out with their lives.

Yet Toya Graham, a self admitted ex-con, recovering drug addict, mother of SIX, whose son has been in and out of major trouble with the law himself, she is the mother whose criminal teen son was a part of and involved with the April 2015 Baltimore riots torching Baltimore and attacking police officers, she was filmed on the local news just slapping her kid during the riots, and in 24 hours she was called a "Hero" mom and on The Today Show, Oprah, Good Morning America and people set up a GoFundMe that raised almost a hundred thousand dollars for her (for slapping her criminal son on camera), Oprah bought her a minivan, she was PAID for all of her media appearances. Then April 2016 she was all over the local news saying she had blown through the entire $100,000 (like a lottery winner that has no common sense on a spending spree). And in October 2016 she set up a SECOND GoFundMe and is now up to nearly $85,000. And people just keep giving her hundreds of thousands. Sorry but I do NOT get how people can give her almost TWO hundred thousand in TWO GoFundMes for slapping her thug kid yet people won't help the home/business owners of Ellicott City who lost EVERYTHING they worked for all their lives for in a catastophic flood and FEMA won't cover most of what they lost.

The cult of celebrity rules large in America just like people buy and pay for the wares of Kim Kardashian, or Paris Hilton and make them millionaires and yet very talented artists, singers, actors, etc with talent struggle to get recognized and wait tables or bar tend just to pay the rent. Idiotic!




[Edited on 4/4/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


CanadianMule - 4/5/2017 at 12:07 AM

Life is not fair sometimes.

That example brings in race and Oprah so I wouldn't use it as a guideline. The amount of people exposed to the story is in the tens of millions. 1% kicks in a donation and it is big bucks.

On a local level, that is where kids and extreme cases get reaction. Sad fact but there are many that are far worse off than your situation. I wouldn't waste your time there.

Beyond friends and family, immediate help is a tough thing. Unless as suggested you find greater exposure than the Fundme deal will come up way short of your desires. Even with exposure, I think you will be let down.

I would be actively seeking other means of aid.

We have ParaTranspo here to help with people such as yourself to get around. I imagine that you have something similar. Not ideal compared to driving yourself but will get you there. Perhaps such a thing does not exist but that would surprise me.

Waiting for an artist that you interviewed to pony up is not going to happen unless they are a friend. They are interviewed by hundreds of people and even more photographers. The artist, management and definitely label will do nothing. Look at the ABB for an example. Butch was in serious financial troubles that could have been solved by a series of shows. Obviously the offer to help was not there. That is after playing together for almost 50 years. Don't think that they will view unpublished interviews (or any interview) as a career builder nor a reason to donate. Again sad for you but the truth.

Hope that your luck/situation improves.

[Edited on 4/5/2017 by CanadianMule]


ArleneWeiss - 4/5/2017 at 03:35 PM

quote:
Life is not fair sometimes.

That example brings in race and Oprah so I wouldn't use it as a guideline. The amount of people exposed to the story is in the tens of millions. 1% kicks in a donation and it is big bucks.

On a local level, that is where kids and extreme cases get reaction. Sad fact but there are many that are far worse off than your situation. I wouldn't waste your time there.

Beyond friends and family, immediate help is a tough thing. Unless as suggested you find greater exposure than the Fundme deal will come up way short of your desires. Even with exposure, I think you will be let down.

I would be actively seeking other means of aid.

We have ParaTranspo here to help with people such as yourself to get around. I imagine that you have something similar. Not ideal compared to driving yourself but will get you there. Perhaps such a thing does not exist but that would surprise me.

Waiting for an artist that you interviewed to pony up is not going to happen unless they are a friend. They are interviewed by hundreds of people and even more photographers. The artist, management and definitely label will do nothing. Look at the ABB for an example. Butch was in serious financial troubles that could have been solved by a series of shows. Obviously the offer to help was not there. That is after playing together for almost 50 years. Don't think that they will view unpublished interviews (or any interview) as a career builder nor a reason to donate. Again sad for you but the truth.

Hope that your luck/situation improves.

[Edited on 4/5/2017 by CanadianMule]


Thank you for your kind words.

All of my interviews were indeed published, several as Cover Stories and only Guitar International went out of business. One of my interviews with Derek Trucks is still published on Guitar.com and the others were hard copy print published in Vintage Guitar Magazine as Cover Stories over a decade ago.

I think what happened with Butch was terrible and unacceptable that things got so bad and he became so distraught and no where to turn that he thought he had to resort to what he did.

But many times artists DO help. Britain's Classic Rock Magazine went out of business around Thanksgiving 2016 and all of the staff writers lost their jobs and they posted a farewell and thank you on their Facebook about how they all were left "redundant" British speak for unemployed at the holidays no less. Well, a ton of international music artists that had been positively reviewed, interviewed, and covered through the years held a benefit fundraiser which they promoted all over Facebook to raise enough funds to at least pay all of the laid off writers through the holidays so they could pay their rent/mortgage bills, and feed their families etc. It got so much Social Media attention that at the final hour, a new publishing company BOUGHT Classic Rock and they are now still going and everyone got to keep their jobs after all.

Some artists have a conscience after all and remember who helped them, promoted them and their work, and buttered their bread so to speak, when the artists were struggling or when these artists wanted their CD's, concert tours, films, books, etc to sell and make money.

Popular blog writer Harry Knowles from the one time successful and powerful film website Ain't It Cool News wound up a year or so ago with of all things like a $100,000 tax bill for not paying his IRS back taxes, and some actors, screenwriters, directors actually paid his back taxes for him (it was all over the entertainment news).

I even remember seeing some music artist on Facebook some years back I can't remember who, posting on his Facebook page asking all of his fans on his Facebook to buy a cookbook, written by the WIFE of his bass player, she was an unpublished new writer and it was her very first book his bass player's WIFE's very first book, and the music artist posted her Facebook on HIS Facebook and everyone ran to the site to buy her cookbook. And another guitar player I remember on Facebook posted his REALTOR'S Facebook page on his site and asked people to use that realtor's services. So I actually see this stuff all the time.

Like I said some artists do have a conscience and scratch the back of those that help them. It's not uncommon at all. Guess it's a matter of right place right time or fate or the stars, whatever.




[Edited on 4/5/2017 by ArleneWeiss]

[Edited on 4/5/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


ArleneWeiss - 4/5/2017 at 09:21 PM

I want to again THANK again very much EVERYONE who has donated. However, I just want to note that all donations are voluntary on the part of those who elect on their own to donate.

I have received some donations from strangers that I do not know who have also sent me inappropriate communications/emails. If you want to help that is great, but if you are not a friend of mine, or you are not someone that I already know personally or professionally, and you are a stranger who chooses to donate with expectations of obligating me to any type of relationship or communication, then please do not donate.

This will also prevent any strangers who are thinking of donating from having any personal or professional expectations on my part (which is NOT what a fundraiser is for) or of feeling misled on their part and if they do choose to donate, I must write a DISCLAIMER that for strangers who donate, this is their only and final interaction with this fundraiser and with me.

From now on I will be carefully screening, FOR MY SAFETY, ALL emails to me on this fundraiser and ALL emails and comments on ALL social media and the internet that stems from this fundraiser. Thank you for your understanding in this business matter. Arlene Weiss


Lee - 4/5/2017 at 09:53 PM

I read through this and if true, I wish you the best. But "FOR MY SAFETY"?

I guess I don't understand what you aren't safe from. You initiated it.


ArleneWeiss - 4/5/2017 at 10:09 PM

quote:
I read through this and if true, I wish you the best. But "FOR MY SAFETY"?

I guess I don't understand what you aren't safe from. You initiated it.


No, someone I don't know who donated on their own started emailing me repeatedly and making me feel uncomfortable by some of the things they said and wanted. Idiot me responded (which I should not have done and now I know better as I have never had a GoFundMe and did not listen to my instincts as they say not to talk to strangers offline and now I have a troll that won't stop and keeps emailing me more and getting very hostile.

[Edited on 4/5/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


gina - 4/5/2017 at 11:21 PM

There are stalkers everywhere Arlene, they are predators, you have to protect yourself as best you can, trust your instinct, when your gut tells you it isn't right, DO NOT SECOND GUESS YOUR INSTINCT. I could tell ya tales.....


ladymule - 4/6/2017 at 05:31 PM

quote:
quote:
I read through this and if true, I wish you the best. But "FOR MY SAFETY"?

I guess I don't understand what you aren't safe from. You initiated it.


No, someone I don't know who donated on their own started emailing me repeatedly and making me feel uncomfortable by some of the things they said and wanted. Idiot me responded (which I should not have done and now I know better as I have never had a GoFundMe and did not listen to my instincts as they say not to talk to strangers offline and now I have a troll that won't stop and keeps emailing me more and getting very hostile.

[Edited on 4/5/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


Can you block them in email?


ArleneWeiss - 4/8/2017 at 03:06 PM

Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated. Thank you and have an awesome weekend. Much love and thanks to EVERYONE! :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


ArleneWeiss - 4/9/2017 at 06:56 PM

Happy Sunday everyone! Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated. Thank you and have an awesome weekend. Much love and thanks to EVERYONE! :-) If you like any of my interviews and reviews that I have reposted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, please Donate and help me out. Thank you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


ArleneWeiss - 4/14/2017 at 06:46 PM

Happy Easter everyone! Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated. Thank you and have an blessed holiday. Much love and thanks to EVERYONE! :-)

If you like my interviews and reviews that I have re-posted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, with Gregg Allman, Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall II, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, The Marshall Tuckers Band's Doug Gray, Joe Bonamassa & Black Country Communion, YES's Jon Anderson & Trevor Rabin, Bo Diddley, Hot Tuna/The Jefferson Airplane's Jorma Kaukonen, The Kinks' Dave Davies and many more, PLEASE DONATE and help me out. Thank you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs

[Edited on 4/14/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


ArleneWeiss - 4/15/2017 at 03:06 PM

Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated.

If you like my interviews and reviews that I have re-posted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, with Gregg Allman, Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall II, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, The Marshall Tuckers Band's Doug Gray, Joe Bonamassa & Black Country Communion, YES's Jon Anderson & Trevor Rabin, Bo Diddley, Hot Tuna/The Jefferson Airplane's Jorma Kaukonen, The Kinks' Dave Davies, reviews of Concert Performances of The Allman Brothers Band, Molly Hatchett, The Atlanta Rhythm Section, and many more..

.......PLEASE DONATE and help me out. Thank you, Happy Easter and God Bless you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


ArleneWeiss - 4/17/2017 at 03:29 PM

Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated.

If you like my interviews and reviews that I have re-posted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, with Gregg Allman, Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall II, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, The Marshall Tuckers Band's Doug Gray, Joe Bonamassa & Black Country Communion, YES's Jon Anderson & Trevor Rabin, Bo Diddley, Hot Tuna/The Jefferson Airplane's Jorma Kaukonen, The Kinks' Dave Davies, reviews of Concert Performances of The Allman Brothers Band, Molly Hatchett, The Atlanta Rhythm Section, and many more..

.......PLEASE DONATE and help me out. Thank you, Happy Easter and God Bless you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


ArleneWeiss - 4/17/2017 at 11:02 PM

quote:
Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated.

If you like my interviews and reviews that I have re-posted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, with Gregg Allman, Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall II, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, The Marshall Tuckers Band's Doug Gray, Joe Bonamassa & Black Country Communion, YES's Jon Anderson & Trevor Rabin, Bo Diddley, Hot Tuna/The Jefferson Airplane's Jorma Kaukonen, The Kinks' Dave Davies, reviews of Concert Performances of The Allman Brothers Band, Molly Hatchett, The Atlanta Rhythm Section, and many more..

.......PLEASE DONATE and help me out. Thank you, Happy Easter and God Bless you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


Everyone I don't have any living family and I have many serious physical health disabilities. Please, I appreciate anything you can Donate or spare, I see you all donate regularly to other folks kickstarters when they assemble books of interviews/photos/articles.

I'm not asking to assemble a book, many of my interviews are on the forum for FREE especially if you click on my name.

If you appreciate my interviews, then, PLEASE KINDLY MAKE A DONATION to help me in my dire circumstances and emergency situation. All I need is enough funds to get a very small compact economy car something like a Nissan Versa or a Toyota Yaris. I have posted many of my interviews and reviews and articles through the years on here, most that I did NOT get paid for while I was still working full time regular day jobs. But now I'm Disabled and so I'm retired. PLEASE DONATE and help me please.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs



[Edited on 4/17/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


ArleneWeiss - 4/18/2017 at 10:59 PM

quote:
Just a kind reminder folks IF you can make a donation, anything even $5 it all helps and is very kindly appreciated.

If you like my interviews and reviews that I have re-posted on the ABB or that are on my Facebook page, with Gregg Allman, Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall II, Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gary Rossington, The Marshall Tuckers Band's Doug Gray, Joe Bonamassa & Black Country Communion, YES's Jon Anderson & Trevor Rabin, Bo Diddley, Hot Tuna/The Jefferson Airplane's Jorma Kaukonen, The Kinks' Dave Davies, reviews of Concert Performances of The Allman Brothers Band, Molly Hatchett, The Atlanta Rhythm Section, and many more..

.......PLEASE DONATE and help me out. Thank you, Happy Easter and God Bless you for your kind support. :-)

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs




Everyone I don't have any living family and I have many serious physical health disabilities. Please, I appreciate anything you can Donate or spare, I see you all donate regularly to other folks kickstarters when they assemble books of interviews/photos/articles.

I'm not asking to assemble a book, many of my interviews are on the forum for FREE especially if you click on my name.

If you appreciate my interviews, then, PLEASE KINDLY MAKE A DONATION to help me in my dire circumstances and emergency situation. All I need is enough funds to get a very small compact economy car something like a Nissan Versa or a Toyota Yaris. I have posted many of my interviews and reviews and articles through the years on here, most that I did NOT get paid for while I was still working full time regular day jobs. But now I'm Disabled and so I'm retired. PLEASE DONATE and help me please.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs


gina - 4/19/2017 at 12:44 AM

Arlene, many of us are having some personal crises and drama, which is why more have not responded yet. Don't lost faith, or give up hope. People just don't want to come out and say how bad they have it. (myself included). Sometimes all that is getting people thru is the music and their faith. It is not that they don't care. Those who overcome have the belief that something in them is superior to their circumstances. You have to start believing that too.


ArleneWeiss - 4/19/2017 at 07:09 PM

quote:
Arlene, many of us are having some personal crises and drama, which is why more have not responded yet. Don't lost faith, or give up hope. People just don't want to come out and say how bad they have it. (myself included). Sometimes all that is getting people thru is the music and their faith. It is not that they don't care. Those who overcome have the belief that something in them is superior to their circumstances. You have to start believing that too.


Gina, I do beleive in myself which is WHY I am a writer/journalist and even though no publication wants to pay me for my work I still LOVE what I do and I LOVE arts & entertainment and especially music and the music of the Allman Brothers Band, and "Dreams" and Gregg's "Ocean Awash The Gunwale" have gotten me through so much. I have often said to myself and to others, that without music I would never have made it through this life. I DO understand that many folks have lost their jobs or have medical emergencies, divorces, deaths in their family and worse. BUT MANY folks are VERY blessed and live lives of happiness, security, and blessings and do NOT help (I can attest to this by the literally dozens of very wealthy churches, synagogues, houses of worship and organizations AND VERY successful artists that I have reviewed and interviewed through the decades who have NOT helped me, (or anyone else for that matter) when they are too busy buying a 5th mansion or a 10th luxury car or bragging about their 20th vacation this year in Europe or an exotic island.

I also see literally hundreds of GoFundMe's and Kickstarters where people are NOT even having an emergency at all but are just asking for funds for a vacation or sabattical or some silly thing.

I also see GoFundMe's & Kickstarters for people like that ex-con confessed drug addict Toya Graham whose son was involved in the Baltimore riots and people are STILL giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to her on TWO GoFundMe's after she already got a new van from Oprah Winfrey and had paid appearances on many national talk shows and The Today Show, A Current Affair, & Good Morning America, and now Baltimore's own Koryn Gaines, the violent criminal who was killed by cops last year when she barricaded herself in her house and started shooting at them on LIVE Facebook telling people to shoot police officers , well there's a GoFundMe for her family that has a ton of donations (and from what the news has reported her family is a chip off the old cop killer criminal block).

I just don't get it. If people can give to this crap and even violent criminals then why not help a law abiding middle aged woman who has served my country by serving jury duty TWICE, has 2 college degrees, worked all my life full time often working 2-3 jobs while I paid taxes and supported & was a caregiver to a widowed disabled mother until she passed away, and has also done arts & entertainment journalism because it gives my life meaning and I love it.

I DO believe in myself, but that does NOT pay the bills or financially assist me in an emergency, one that I probably would not be in in the first place if MANY of my former employers had paid me a livable wage for the 60 hours a week that I worked with TWO college degrees but they did NOT, and the numerous local bands that I managed and booked and did PR for that ripped me off and were supposed to pay me but DIDN'T, and the numerous bosses at my regular jobs that ILLEGALLY made me work OFF THE CLOCK, and UNPAID OVERTIME and made me run their personal errands using my car, my gas, OFF THE CLOCK and when I said anything and stood up for myself because I BELIEVED IN MYSELF, so then they retaliated and threatened to fire me or did.

So much for believing in myself. Just like the blues artists, and many hard working poor and blue collar folks who believe in themselves but live in poverty because their employers and the system also does not pay them a livable wage then these same self absorbed rich bosses and corporations bitch when these hard working impoverished folks need public assistance, charities, or government benefits (often that they have paid into the system for out of their jobs for and it is their own money that they paid into). I filed many times for SSD Disability (unlike SSI, SSD Disability comes from when you have worked all your life and paid in to FICA and Social security and it comes from your many lifetime of employment and jobs) , but SSD denied me so many times that now I don't qualify for it because its been too many years since I last worked within the last 10 years, (SSD does not count your overall work history once you stop working, you have to file and keep your case open just a few years after you stop working and if your case gets closed after denial you are not allowed to refile or reopen it and they FORCE you to file for SSI which is like welfare).

Anyhow, I ASK FOLKS< THE ONES WHO ARE BLESSED, TO PLEASE PAY IT FORWARD, especially if you like my interviews and reviews of the ABB, with Gregg Allman, with Derek Trucks, and more artists like The Atlanta Rhythm Section, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Marshall Tucker Band, YES, Joe Bonamassa & Black County Communion, Doyle Bramhall II, Austin City Limits, Jorma Kaukonen, actors Michael Beck from The Warriors, Jean Reno from Leon: The Professional, Ernie Hudson from Ghostbusters, and many more, please lend a very much appreciated helping hand, and PLEASE DONATE.

I thank you with all my heart.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs



[Edited on 4/19/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


PhotoRon286 - 4/19/2017 at 09:46 PM

At 4:44 pm "Who's Online - There are 68 guest(s) and 4 member(s) online."



gina - 4/19/2017 at 11:52 PM

Just to let folks know, guests can donate if they choose to. If 100 people give up one Starbuck's coffee, that would help. If 1,000 people did that, she could get a place to live at least. If the same 1,000 people gave up one Starbucks coffee for 3 months, she could probably get a used car and an apartment. People need to understand the concept of community. A lot of people doing a little bit means stuff gets done.


PhotoRon286 - 4/20/2017 at 01:04 AM



I feel sorry for her but the every other day repeat for money is like a digital version of the guy with a sign at an intersection.



[Edited on 4/20/2017 by PhotoRon286]


CanadianMule - 4/20/2017 at 02:37 AM

A large percentage of donations received are though this site.

Not bad considering that only a dozen of us are left here.

I said that originally and perhaps Arlene is unaware but there are really not that many active posters here. Expectations of this site/forum are way too high. There was a time when this sort of stuff wasn't really allowed.

I would suggest an auction to raise some cash but not sure that there are even enough people here to get some bidding going.

Need to hit more forums or sources for donations.


PhotoRon286 - 4/20/2017 at 03:10 AM

Exactly where I was going with the posting of members and guests online.

This is NOT a very active site any more.

Craig's List is more active.

Sad.

Much better off trying other venues for this solicitation.

I'd also point out that it is very off-putting to see a post denigrating other peoples' go fund me sites because she doesn't think they are more worthy than her.




[Edited on 4/20/2017 by PhotoRon286]


Lissajess - 4/20/2017 at 04:52 AM

quote:
Exactly where I was going with the posting of members and guests online.

This is NOT a very active site any more.

Craig's List is more active.

Sad.

Much better off trying other venues for this solicitation.




I'd also point out that it is very off-putting to see a post denigrating other peoples' go fund me sites because she doesn't think they are more worthy than her.


[Edited on 4/20/2017 by PhotoRon286]



I would agree with everything you said. Except I visit here often. I no longer sign in most of the time.
I was not received with open arms. I was accused of being some character named Dino , the bus driver. I did my home work.

My conclusion . Some people here are not receptive to new members., no mater how much the love ABB or how earnestly they want to make friends.

When Arlene first appeared here. I followed her links. I came out on. FB page gear for super heroes . I posted it here and she changed it. So judge for yourself. How do you become 55 with no family, church or friends. I can't imagine living in a rented room my entire adult live.....GUESS WHAT....I worked in the medical field myself as a ward clerk. After my husband died at twenty three. I supported myself and my daughter. I was an only child my dad was dead. It was up to me. By God I did it!


PhotoRon286 - 4/20/2017 at 01:36 PM

deano did a lot of damage here for years and we were always suspicious when new people came in and were active.

You never knew if they were one post away from a classic deano meltdown complete with gay porn pics.

Glad you got through that without too much trouble.


ArleneWeiss - 4/20/2017 at 04:21 PM

I didn't say that I had rented the SAME room all my life I said that I had rented single unfurnished room(S) (meaning I have continued to rent rooms in other peoples homes all my adult life and many people do this nowadays, including the adults that have lived in the many other rooms for rent in the houses that I have rented rooms in.

Check your local newspaper and lots of homeowners do this because they also need the money to pay their mortgage, bills, etc, so they rent out rooms in their homes.

And many folks have to live in rented rooms in other people's homes because they don't make a livable wage, their jobs cut their hours, their jobs cut their paycheck, they're Disabled, Retired, etc.

Also apartments/housing in many towns and cities across the nation is no longer affordable, or people have bad credit and can't pass the credit check, etc. Nowadays you have many folks and even FAMILIES, people with children who are living in one room in motels or in garages or one room efficiencies, it's that bad.

As I said I supported my widowed mom and was her caretaker much of my life and on top of having low paying jobs (even with 2 college degrees that often REQUIRED a college degree) I was not saving anything because I was also supporting my mother most of the time until she passed away (and then left me with debts that she owed).

One of my friends has a 20 something son that graduated college with a LAW degree, over $100,000 in debt to law school and they are working at McDonalds because there are no decent paying jobs anymore with outsourcing tons of jobs from factory jobs to customer service and manufacturing overseas, the digital/internet age making people's jobs obsolete, unions losing their clout with many foreigners coming to the USA willing to work for alot less and often under the table, the factory age ending great paying jobs at steelmills and the auto industry which is NO MORE and ENDED, etc.

Also, I would be happy to post my GoFundMe on other sites, Reddit will NOT let anyone post a fundraiser link that has not been VOTED UP to 300 KARMA points by other Reddit users, (I tried that route) and I would never use Craigslist because alot of women have been murdered or raped by posting on there. VERY unsafe site.

And I do have friends, I never said I didn't I said I didn't have any living family or anyone to help in the capacity of major needs as I cannot ask a friend to buy me a car or pay my rent, and my friends have very graciously and kindly donated, and so have several local Maryland musicians donated who personally know me or who I have reviewed and supported in the local Maryland press many years back.

BTW, lots of folks don't have living family, especially as you get older and your parents and family members die. My dad died when I was SEVEN and I only had one living grandmother who died from colon cancer when I was 18, and she lived in poverty all her life working retail jobs and she worked until she was diagnosed with cancer and died 2 months later.

Because I never married and I never had children I never gained new additional extended family through marriage like most folks do that marry. I worked my adult years and took care of and supported my mom (who in a sense was MY child because I was her caregiver and supported her) while trying to support myself and I DID until my last job cut my hours and then went out of business and then I became Disabled myself. I also got into alot of debt by supporting my mom and when she passed away she left me alot of unpaid debts and bills, some of which were in MY NAME.

Many people have very difficult lives and just because they work full time does not guarantee they don't have major financial, medical, or situational emergencies and difficulties.

One last thing I didn't denigrate people who really need a fundraiser or GoFundMe, I spoke of Toya Graham, the ex con recovering addict with the son who was involved in and actively took part in the Baltimore riots and also of Korryn Gaines who posted a LIVE Facebook feed telling people to kill cops while she barricaded herself in her house in her own shootout with cops.

The silly GoFundMe's I mentioned I was just stating fact, like the now infamous guy who raised $100,000 to make potato salad not for a business or restaurant , but for fun only as a social experiment, and total strangers gave it to him.

I also know there are LOTS of folks with GoFundMe's and fundraisers who really do need funds for all kinds of emergencies, losses, crisis, and no one helps them either.

Just making a point, like how schoolteachers and nurses and firefighters don't make a livable wage and constantly have their jobs CUT where they work and they are laid off, and can barely afford to get by, but our culture pays MILLIONS to people to be celebrities, to have fun and act, to make music, to play sports, basketball, football, or do nothing like Kim Kardashian and the cult of celebrity. When people donate to different fundraisers or when they pay someone to make a living sometimes they have no perspective.

Thank you to those that have or can Donate and God Bless.

https://www.gofundme.com/car-4-medical-appts-necessary-needs

[Edited on 4/20/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


Agerst1574 - 4/20/2017 at 06:27 PM

I am really struggling with this thread as I get older (I will be 58), I know how fortunate I have been to have a good quality of life. I also recognize how easy it could have been to not have this as circumstances often play a factor. I worry about my adult son who is going to struggle as he gets older and what would happen if my wife and I were not there for him.

But what bothers me, for lack of a better word, regarding your posts is how your anger about other folks getting help through Gofundme somehow entitles you to get it. You have posted eloquently about your needs and difficulties and people here have made a decision about whether to contribute or not. I have not because I don't know you.

I don't know. We live in a bizarre society where I think in some ways people feel things are deserved to them and I consider myself to be a liberal. Sometimes we make choices that affect our lives and we have to take responsibility for them.

I wish you nothing but the best Arlene. I hope you get the support you need.


CanadianMule - 4/20/2017 at 10:03 PM

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One of my friends has a 20 something son that graduated college with a LAW degree, over $100,000 in debt to law school and they are working at McDonalds because there are no decent paying jobs anymore with outsourcing tons of jobs from factory jobs to customer service and manufacturing overseas, the digital/internet age making people's jobs obsolete


He graduated with a LAW degree. So he should be trying to find work in his field. Jobs like factories and customer service should not even be on his radar. If he graduated law and can't find a job better than McDonald's than something is wrong.

I get your point. Times are tough. We all make life choices and deal with the consequences of those decisions. I think your acceptance of poor paying jobs even with 2 degrees was your downfall. Other aspects really make no sense to me. I had an apartment and lived on my own at 16. I was an idiot at 16 but accomplished it. You have never done this in your entire adult life? Now at 55, you want others to help you do what you never have. At times you come across as a little angry that it didn't happen immediately and that this site didn't produce $60000 overnight.

This site has raised money for some people/causes which usually involved a family in need after a death or a communal cause. Yours is the first time that I have ever seen someone say that they made bad career choices and want people to fix that and give them money. I don't mean to simplify your issues but it really does come down to that.

Don't mean it to sound judgemental but I guess it is. Guarantee that more than a few read this and said "Cry me a river and go get a job". As I said earlier, there are many sad stories. Homeless people and hungry children for instance.

I had feared that you wouldn't get a cent here at the beginning. Amazed that this site generated what it did and perhaps a bit more will come. But being critical of the level of support won't help. $1600 from strangers may not pay for a new life but it is $1599 more than many get.


gina - 4/20/2017 at 11:31 PM

Arlene you should not have to justify hard times, and needing some help. The circumstances speak for themselves, you are disabled, your car was totaled, you need a place to live, there are not many job opportunities for people in certain age ranges, there are regional preferences employers have, up here if you are Spanish, wear tight clothes that looks like you got in them using a shoe horn, and show your breasts you will be hired because they want a "bi-lingual preferred". If you are white, you better be 30 or less and prepared to sleep with your boss.

Rather than look at what you can't do, think the other way, what things can you do? There may be churches that could use some part time help making phone calls, working on their newsletters etc. If you can prepare a meal, maybe you could do salad prep at a restaurant or fast food place. Many of the call center, phone jobs relocated to Delaware from New York, they do credit card servicing, etc. Think of the skills you have, and what type of work they could be applied to. Even the writing, are there any news television stations maybe you could do something there, even if it is just typing classified ads for a local newspaper. Consider funeral homes, they need people to answer the calls, take information, give people directions etc. Phones are used everywhere, if you can talk, you can do that. IF there are no jobs where you live, you gotta move. Florida may not be a bad idea. You got the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, you can get good medical care there, and Florida has a lot of small efficiency apartments. I know it is hard to think of all this, but as someone told me, sometimes you just gotta pick up stakes and go. Nothing is guaranteed, nobody's future, but when people are in a place where there are no possibilities, you got to do something else.

Baltimore will experience race riots when the dollar fails. You do not want to go thru that. I want to be waaaay away from New York City when that happens because it will be HELL up here too. We are living in the pre-end times. This is the time to call out for guidance and let him lead you where you need to go. One of the things I would say is try to find a good church, or a good masjid. Most of them do not help financially, the church or masjid may not help you but you may meet people there who will help. If they don't, remember that even Jesus complained that even a prophet had no where to lay his head in his own home town.

Remember God only deems 144,000 worthy to be in his new Kingdom that Jesus will establish when he comes back. Out of all the hundreds of millions of people, that's how many actually get it, understand how they are supposed to live. The rest are concerned with their own pleasures, and are slaves to their desires and materialism. So when you are surprised at people, don't be, others have walked these roads before you and faced scorn, indifference, torture, and death. If you are right with God, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. If they were living according to his ways, and the guidance he left, once you made your situation known, there would be an outpouring of support. I will add you to my prayers, and when my situation improves, I will send something.

I don't think it matters how you ended up in this position. What matters is where you are now and where you go from here in your life. God is aware of your situation, he is not ignoring you, he is watching the responses from those who know about it. He lets us suffer so we come to him and pray and get closer to him, and he uses our miseries to get others to think of him and come to him also, even if they only pray for you.


gina - 4/20/2017 at 11:46 PM

P.S. This lady Arlene has asked for help. God has a Tropical Storm named Arlene in the ocean. God will hold the storm back so it does not wreak havoc on the land, as a mercy to the people in the US. Maybe those who have not considered donating ought to. God is giving you his mercy, where is yours?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT1+shtml/202032.shtml

Tropical Storm Arlene Discussion Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL012017
500 PM AST Thu Apr 20 2017

I have to add one more surprise to my long hurricane forecasting
career. Unexpectedly, the subtropical cyclone became a tropical
depression this morning, and then it intensified to a tropical
storm. This intensity estimate is based on the cloud pattern
presentation on satellite imagery which shows moderate thunderstorm
activity surrounding an eye-type feature, and a convective ring in
microwave imagery. Initial intensity is set at 40 kt, although
estimates from TAFB suggest that the winds could have reached 45 kt
around 1800 UTC. Since that time, the cloud pattern has deteriorated
somewhat and winds probably have diminished. Despite the
intensification, Arlene is still forecast by all global models to
become absorbed by a nearby developing extratropical cyclone on
Friday.


REMARKS: God most certainly does control these things. He already proved it. All the forecasters waaay back said there was no way Hurricane Floyd would NOT hit us up here, but God stopped it, he also stopped Isabel, and Irene from destroying us here. I am not arrogant enough to say he did it for me, but he was well aware of my circumstances and during one of those storms I lived 2 blocks from the ocean. During Irene, I tried to escape and ended up smack dab in the middle of it near the river rising close to inundation stage. The car just would not go further, further where I was headed ended up with inundations and major flooding. He stopped me from being there.

[Edited on 4/20/2017 by gina]


CanadianMule - 4/21/2017 at 11:10 AM

quote:
P.S. This lady Arlene has asked for help. God has a Tropical Storm named Arlene in the ocean. God will hold the storm back so it does not wreak havoc on the land, as a mercy to the people in the US. Maybe those who have not considered donating ought to. God is giving you his mercy, where is yours?



God sounds like he is threatening us. Not a very nice God that you have, Gina.
God is warning us now as it is raining outside. You better sell all of your earthly possessions and donate, Gina. OH OH the wind is blowing now. Better sell faster.

Instead of threatening with natural disasters, why doesn't God just give her a car and an apt?


piacere - 4/21/2017 at 12:21 PM

gina...that's not sound doctrine. Not even close. I told you before, many times, be careful of your interpretations and how you convey them to people. I'm not getting into it with you again but just a heads up...


das814 - 4/21/2017 at 01:17 PM

If it's 144,000 thing, then I guess heaven is already full and it's time for me to stop following this thread. Arlene, you will be in my prayers. Unfortunately, I've been laid off after 35 yrs from a company I poured too much of my personal life into. And nobody is looking for a 60 yr old unless it's for close to half my old salary, which I'll do if necessary.


anthonyspare - 4/21/2017 at 01:38 PM

quote:

Jobs like factories and customer service should not even be on his radar.


quote:

Yours is the first time that I have ever seen someone say that they made bad career choices and want people to fix that and give them money. I don't mean to simplify your issues but it really does come down to that.


quote:

I had feared that you wouldn't get a cent here at the beginning. Amazed that this site generated what it did and perhaps a bit more will come. But being critical of the level of support won't help. $1600 from strangers may not pay for a new life but it is $1599 more than many get.


Couldn't have said better myself, though I do hope your luck turns around, but I wouldn't wait on someone to fix the problem for you.
Have you tried https://www.vehiclesforchange.org/car-donation-programs/
They look to serve the Maryland area.....


CanadianMule - 4/21/2017 at 02:15 PM

quote:
If it's 144,000 thing, then I guess heaven is already full and it's time for me to stop following this thread. Arlene, you will be in my prayers. Unfortunately, I've been laid off after 35 yrs from a company I poured too much of my personal life into. And nobody is looking for a 60 yr old unless it's for close to half my old salary, which I'll do if necessary.


Sorry to hear that. Yours is a very common story. I have many friends in the same situation.

Hopefully after 35 years, they treated you respectfully and fairly with your exit. One friend has been in a legal battle for a couple of years. After almost 40 years, they are trying to give him next to nothing. Because of certain aspects of his industry, the legalities are not as straight forward.

Another friend lost pretty much everything. First getting let go at work after 30+ years, lost his house, cars and was pretty much feeding the family through food banks and the support of friends. Lead to massive depression with suicidal thoughts. Eventually lost his wife/family as it was just not a healthy situation for anyone. A shadow of himself. This was a guy who worked his way up from as low as it gets to VP of the company.

Personally I never had the chance or wanted to hang for 35 years. It was not the nature of the careers that I chose. Radio? Absolutely no job security at all. Little pay for countless hours. No 9 to 5 shi*t there. Everyone gets fired and everyone is always looking for work. Music industry? LOL - well that is even worse than radio. Depending on the job, it is always a matter of looking for more work. Money there one minute and gone the next. Musician? Well that is even worse than the other two. Even when you work, the money sucks.

Working all of those jobs, you need something on the side. So I did countless other stupid jobs to get by. Often between career jobs, I did what I had to. Positive side - I learned quite a few skills. Negative side - most of the jobs sucked.

Then I got sick and realized that I had picked a whole bunch of jobs that left me with little to no benefits and/or security. Get sick in anything music related - See you later. Being ill will sure mess with the family and your mental health. Luckily I have a great family and my wife is a rock. Just as I was recovering - my wife gets ill and we almost lost her. So then neither of us are working. Was a pretty stressful time.

It took a lifetime to figure out that anything music related would never pay the bills and there is no pension. Trouble is the only way to make the money I need is to manage something. Spent my life usually being responsible for others and didn't want to start that all over. So I got a haircut and got a real job. LOL - Took a pay cut and haven't been this happy in years.

Do the music stuff on the side now. Some consultant work and some "expert" pay for legal stuff.
Musician - I had tired of it long ago from a gigging angle. Plus working music/radio, I was at some f'n show every night too. It gets tiring after a while. Now I play with a couple of acts and have fun again. Don't care if I make a cent. Doing some session work an make a few bucks plus do some stuff free for friends.

Getting old makes it harder to start over. But I did it which means anyone can if they want or need to.

I hope Arlene and others find the help and solutions that they need. As bleak as things may seem at times, you have to keep trying and keep an open mind. As advice and resources are what helps solve things long term.


PhotoRon286 - 4/21/2017 at 03:32 PM

I'm almost 58, spent the last 25 years working in the family business.

We closed the florist side in December leaving me without a job.

Over the years I took less money than most in my position just to help keep things going.

I could have concentrated on my photo business and left the family behind but I didn't.

I sure didn't come here in January to ask my friends to pay my bills until I found another job.

My new gig starts Monday.


piacere - 4/21/2017 at 04:27 PM

Hey Ron, good luck and good on ya for hangin' in there all that time

same here, found a new job at 58. I love it. Been there two years and plan on being there another 5 or so.

It can happen, ya gotta keep digging.


ArleneWeiss - 4/21/2017 at 05:20 PM



[Edited on 4/21/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


tcatanesi - 4/21/2017 at 05:21 PM

quote:
My new gig starts Monday.


Hey, PhotoRon, good luck with your new gig starting Monday, whatever it is!


ArleneWeiss - 4/21/2017 at 05:21 PM



[Edited on 4/22/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


CanadianMule - 4/21/2017 at 06:18 PM

Not easy coming forward Arlene but I think it gives people a more accurate view of your situation. Sad that you are in this sad state of affairs. I think admitting the homeless issue is huge. Hope others agree.

Ron
Good luck starting over. Hope like me, it works out for you.


PhotoRon286 - 4/21/2017 at 06:52 PM

quote:
quote:
My new gig starts Monday.


Hey, PhotoRon, good luck with your new gig starting Monday, whatever it is!


Thanks!

I'll be running a garden center with mulch sales and nursery stock.

Pretty much what I was doing before but with fewer responsibilities and twice the pay.


anthonyspare - 4/21/2017 at 07:22 PM

Arlene,
I mentioned this above https://www.vehiclesforchange.org/car-donation-programs/
Have you looked into contacting them with your story? Looks to be based out of Maryland, prolly wouldn't hurt to give them a try.


ArleneWeiss - 4/21/2017 at 07:53 PM

quote:
Arlene,
I mentioned this above https://www.vehiclesforchange.org/car-donation-programs/
Have you looked into contacting them with your story? Looks to be based out of Maryland, prolly wouldn't hurt to give them a try.


Thank you for the kind thought. Yes I have, as well as looking into Cars For Careers and The Maryland branch of the National Kidney Foundation & Goodwill that both accept donated cars from people who get tax writeoffs. For all of these to qualify you must currently be employed, have proof of income from employment per pay stubs, and for 2 of these you must have children or be supporting tax claimed (per your most recent IRS Tax Return) dependents, so on all those points I don't qualify.

Also, My Outreach Caseworker on Monday, and my Therapist on Wednesday wrote me wonderful Appeal Letters to send to all of the resources that I have met with or contacted for help but won't help me because I 1.) Don't qualify, 2.) They plain out say no, 3.) They have criteria that disqualifies me such as NOT having children or dependents, NOT being 62 or over in age, and NOT being a Refugee (Catholic Charities, Jewish Charities, and MANY of the Houses of worship in Maryland sponsor Syrian & Afghan Refugee families up to 6 with free housing and I asked all to make an exception and sponsor me and all have said NO). Anyway I sent the 2 appeal letters and it did no good, still all denials from everyone.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


StratDal - 4/21/2017 at 09:45 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
My new gig starts Monday.


Hey, PhotoRon, good luck with your new gig starting Monday, whatever it is!


Thanks!

I'll be running a garden center with mulch sales and nursery stock.

Pretty much what I was doing before but with fewer responsibilities and twice the pay.


Doesn't get much better. Congrats Ron. All the best.


gina - 4/22/2017 at 12:10 AM

Arlene is there a roof over your head? We do not need to know where, do not give out the location to people. Having worked in social work for 7 1/2 years I KNOW how the system works and doesn't work. Some of the shelters are not bad, if you are a couple then you get your own room. If not, they pair you up with someone you don't even know for one night, then the next day it could be someplace else with someone else you do not know. Bear in mind these people also are in crisis with many problems, life, logistical, emotional. If you can find some churches talk to some of the priests, they may let you sleep in there at night; in NYC some of the churches let the occupy wall street protesters sleep there during the winter. That would be better than a single person in a shelter situation.

Since you need an address for welfare, go online and find foreclosed properties, use one of those addresses. Pick up your mail there. Just try to be discreet, come home in the dark and leave in the morning in the dark. if they have a shed in the back, that would put a roof over your head, or a garage would also do and probably be better. Get a sleeping bag or an inflatable air mattress.

You might even be able to negotiate something with the bank holding the note on the property, tell them you would like to stay there while they are trying to sell it, and offer some rent. Any income on the property is better than nothing. If there are busses, mass transit, you can get around. You cannot remain in the position you are in now. You have to think outside the box.

If you can take a course at a college, you can get an id, you can use their libraries, fitness centers, they have cheap places to eat etc.

In the summer and off season many of them also rent out the dorms nightly, much cheaper than a hotel.

What do you do with your stuff? Get a cheap storage unit and some totes, put things in there.

Yes all this requires some money, but you got to do what you need to do to keep a roof over your head, and take care of your needs.

Churches have pantry and soup kitchens. The food is free, Habitat for Humanity runs respectable, compassionate ones and do not harass you for your life story.

As to the new car, get a mini van, it is easier to live in something where you can at least lay out flat. SUV's have big gas guzzling engines, the minivans are 4 cylinder, and drive like a car does. You take out the back seats and you can lay down.

Arlene, if you can drive, (and it is not a great job) most towns need bus drivers for the school kids. The pay is good. The job conditions, not so much, but most will let you take the smaller busses home if you want to. You could use that to get around.

Arlene when I was young (like 19) I learned to drive an airport limo, but I did not keep that job very long, I did other jobs with less stress. If you can drive, you can drive. Limos and cabs require special licenses and endorsements, the smaller busses may require it but some of the companies may let you train for it and help you pass it. Consider it. Wheels and a paycheck will help you a lot.






[Edited on 4/22/2017 by gina]


PhotoRon286 - 4/22/2017 at 02:11 AM

Really???

What next, gina???

Try to tell her how to be a Uber driver???



Unreal.


CanadianMule - 4/22/2017 at 10:18 AM

quote:
Really???
What next, gina???
Try to tell her how to be a Uber driver???
Unreal.


LOL - I thought it was one of the most logical posts in Gina's history. I doubt Arlene is up for most of the suggestions. But they are ideas.


ArleneWeiss - 4/22/2017 at 02:19 PM

Canadian Mule and everyone, as I feared I am getting alot of scary emails to my GoFundMe and on Facebook since I changed it to say I am -h-, and still no one is helping me or donating. 2 people who personally know me and didn't know I was -h- deleted me from their Facebook.

I DO appreciate and know that you all mean well and I DO appreciate your kind thoughts, but many people look down on, are ashamed of, or prey on -h- people and I have experienced this many times even with my own personal and professional friends.

I can tell you that when I first became -h- I called 2 of my oldest "friends" and did not ask for funds. I asked if I could store a box or 2 of belongings at their homes and one who told me he was having problems hiring a responsible and reliable live in nanny for his newborn, I asked if I might help him and his wife by taking the job, and then I also would have a place to live and a salary, and he acted like I said I had leprosy, hung up on me and has not spoken to me since. My girlfriend of 37 years who just bought a new 5 bedroom home I only asked if I could store some belongings and when we had a blizzard a few months back I asked if I could just stay the night. She also won't answer my calls anymore and lets it go to voice mail.

Also, one of the publications I was writing for (but NOT paying me I was writing for Free), when my car broke down (the battery had died) I called the owner/publisher of the publication and told him I was living in my car asking for funds ONE time since they didn't pay me. He did drive up and pay for the tow truck and the new battery but was not thrilled with me when he found out I was -h-.

On that basis I am changing my GoFundMe back to NOT say I am -h-, just disabled because that is making things worse for me.

https://www.gofundme.com/urgentneedsaw





[Edited on 4/22/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


CanadianMule - 4/22/2017 at 07:33 PM

That is a shame although you did climb $200. Positive side.


PhotoRon286 - 4/22/2017 at 07:35 PM

quote:
P.S.--I ALSO have been reading up that what gets people donating to GoFundMe is when ALOT of people make a post GO VIRAL and SHARE the GoFundMe post on Facebook & Social Media, (and also share it on their email contact networks as well) *****AND ALSO (and this part is very important)**** they ADD a little intro to when they SHARE the GoFundMe that personalizes it coming from them.

Example: If someone from the ABB forum shared my GoFundMe,

One of my Allman Brothers Band forumís members, Arlene Weiss has an emergency situation and needs your help. Arlene is a journalist and has repeatedly interviewed Gregg Allman & Derek Trucks and supported the ABB and many music artists. Now she needs YOUR support and help. Please consider a kind donation to her.

Please, please, please,... she needs your help.



So now you want US to beg for you?



This thread is seriously messed up.


I still feel sorry for you but that takes a lot of gall to ask/suggest that people spam their friends for you.


ArleneWeiss - 4/22/2017 at 07:44 PM



[Edited on 4/22/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


ArleneWeiss - 4/22/2017 at 07:51 PM

quote:
That is a shame although you did climb $200. Positive side.


These 2 donations today are from someone I know from my journalism and their friend who have been speaking to me directly. They also donated after I changed it back to NOT include the -H- part.


CanadianMule - 4/22/2017 at 08:04 PM

quote:
quote:
That is a shame although you did climb $200. Positive side.


These 2 donations today are from someone I know from my journalism and their friend who have been speaking to me directly. They also donated after I changed it back to NOT include the -H- part.


Either way - they helped. Not sure that having the H part for 12 hours was going to make a difference. But whatever you are comfortable with.

Your stories of all these stalkers and lots of emails is strange? Where are you finding these people and without some knowledge, not sure how they found you. And in only a matter of hours? Talked to someone just now who has done a ton of online fund raising and no stories of stalkers, perverts or strange emails. Somehow you attract them in hours? Strange.

Again your Fund Raising - do as you please.

I think you have pretty much maxed out on here for funds but maybe not. Not what you wanted but as I said - more than I expected.


PhotoRon286 - 4/22/2017 at 08:36 PM

Sure does a lot of editing and deleting posts.

Glad I quoted the part she deleted.

quote:
I think you have pretty much maxed out on here for funds


Maybe time to move on and give this thread the burial it deserves?


ArleneWeiss - 4/22/2017 at 08:49 PM

quote:
Sure does a lot of editing and deleting posts.

Glad I quoted the part she deleted.

quote:
I think you have pretty much maxed out on here for funds


Maybe time to move on and give this thread the burial it deserves?


PhotoRon286 I deleted all the -h- stuff and I deleted what you specifically seem to take offense at. I also deleted something I wanted to say specifically to you and now I am putting it back.

PhotoRon286 I was not trying to be forward I was doing what GoFundme and Kickstarter have as Faqs for a successful fundraiser. This is also the idea behind social media. Whenever someone even shares a CD, movie, etc. with their intro endorsement, that's what makes people interested and supportive. That is all I meant and did NOT intend to offend you or anyone else.

However, PhotoRon286 LONG before I ever started this thread, LONG before, and I only posted regular fun stuff, or replies, or my journalism work, you have been the ONLY person on the ABB to consistantly troll and follow my threads and post sarcastic, hostile, combative or mean spirited stuff, LONG before I posted this thread. I have not said anything all these years while I held it in, and LONG before I started this thread.

Well enough, ok, enough. If you hate me so much that you have to constantly follow me and say mean stuff, and that includes after anyone says anything positive to me, (NOT just here, as I said LONG before I started this thread) when I have replied to or posted on other threads and someone says something nice to me and you then reply with some nasty stuff to make sure everyone only notices your hateful remarks. I don't know why you hate me so much LONG before I started this thread but you are the main reason I don't post that often on the ABB, I love to read but I don't post that often, because you always troll me. PLEASE leave me alone. OK.

I am now certain that you got exactly what you wanted, to know that you upset me and riled me up. That make you feel good about yourself?! Unreal.

As for Canadian Mule, Gina, Brer Rabbitt, Anthony Spare, and everyone else who posted or replied to this thread, thank you for your kindness, concern, suggestions, donations, thoughtfulness, kind words, encouragement, suggestions and Have a good weekend and a Happy Earth Day. Peace out! Eat a peach for peace!


[Edited on 4/22/2017 by ArleneWeiss]


PhotoRon286 - 4/22/2017 at 08:56 PM

Interesting as I don't ever remember trolling any of your previous posts from years back.

Guess I better look that up and see if I was out of line.

The idea of asking us to beg for you was tacky as all hell.

I still feel sorry for you but it seems you spend much more time here than on facebook and that's a much bigger audience, as people have tried to point out.

You also deleted other posts after lisajess asked you about them.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by PhotoRon286]


PhotoRon286 - 4/22/2017 at 09:14 PM

quote:
However, PhotoRon286 LONG before I ever started this thread, LONG before, and I only posted regular fun stuff, or replies, or my journalism work, you have been the ONLY person on the ABB to consistantly troll and follow my threads and post sarcastic, hostile, combative or mean spirited stuff, LONG before I posted this thread. I have not said anything all these years while I held it in, and LONG before I started this thread.



The nice thing about this forum is you can search all posts by a user.

After browsing for 20 minutes your posted topics and scanning through, I can't find a single one I posted in, let alone was hostile, combative, etc.

If you can find an example I'll be happy to respond.


ladymule - 4/22/2017 at 10:09 PM

quote:
Maybe time to move on and give this thread the burial it deserves?


Ron, as long as Rowland and the mods don't delete it and folks keep reading and posting to it, I don't see why it deserves to be buried. Just my opinion.


WaitinForRain - 4/22/2017 at 11:23 PM

It is very common for people on social media to use social media to help others.
I hardly see that this is 'trolling' for someone else or in any way 'offensive', in fact, it is exactly the kind of help that Arlene needs and is asking for, and is simple enough to do. People make up their own minds to donate or not. They are adults.

She has been very proactive at seeking out potential help in her hometown, and has persisted despite multiple rejections. There are people getting more, doing less to help themselves.

If you are 'offended' (surprise, surprise) then you can delete and move on. Arlene is trying to survive. She doesn't have time for your emo/drama queene trip.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by WaitinForRain]


WaitinForRain - 4/22/2017 at 11:27 PM

It does not surprise me that some people are getting weird about it, because if there is a GoFundMe, then some people figure there might be a way to get $$$ out of the recipient.


CanadianMule - 4/23/2017 at 12:23 AM

quote:
quote:
However, PhotoRon286 LONG before I ever started this thread, LONG before, and I only posted regular fun stuff, or replies, or my journalism work, you have been the ONLY person on the ABB to consistantly troll and follow my threads and post sarcastic, hostile, combative or mean spirited stuff, LONG before I posted this thread. I have not said anything all these years while I held it in, and LONG before I started this thread.



The nice thing about this forum is you can search all posts by a user.

After browsing for 20 minutes your posted topics and scanning through, I can't find a single one I posted in, let alone was hostile, combative, etc.

If you can find an example I'll be happy to respond.


I was hoping to bust you also, Ron. But couldn't find a single post on any thread, let alone one where you were hostile towards Arlene. Perhaps she is mistaking you for someone else or we are both missing it.


CanadianMule - 4/23/2017 at 12:41 AM

In fairness, this type of thing has always been frowned upon from the beginning. Rowland might have shut it down years ago. Don't think with the limited amount of posters now that Rowland pays much attention unless contacted.

Threads like this could escalate with multiple people doing the same. Some for valid reasons and others to make some cash. Not really the intent of the forum. People have donated to members' families after some unfortunate deaths but never with a "Fund Me" online type of venture.

That said - Arlene is obviously in need so she is trying. I mentioned that I didn't think this was going to be some miracle place to raise funds and it isn't. But the forum did support to a degree. But it is not the answer. I think that alone is reason enough to not get twisted with debate/pros and cons. After weeks, this forum has done what it can and will. Endless bumping up the thread will just continue the direction that it has been going in. Especially when Arlene at times gets critical even when that is not her intention. I think it will just aggravate her more without generating more cash. My 2 cents.

I personally believe Arlene but she could also be a 40 yr old guy in Mexico. If not her running a con then what about the next person? That is why this type of stuff or selling things was not allowed originally.

I imagine that doing interviews, Arlene must have gotten some things signed. Perhaps an auction type fund raiser could generate something.


PhotoRon286 - 4/23/2017 at 12:43 AM

quote:
It is very common for people on social media to use social media to help others.
I hardly see that this is 'trolling' for someone else or in any way 'offensive', in fact, it is exactly the kind of help that Arlene needs and is asking for, and is simple enough to do. People make up their own minds to donate or not. They are adults.

She has been very proactive at seeking out potential help in her hometown, and has persisted despite multiple rejections. There are people getting more, doing less to help themselves.

If you are 'offended' (surprise, surprise) then you can delete and move on. Arlene is trying to survive. She doesn't have time for your emo/drama queene trip.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by WaitinForRain]


1. I'm not "offended" just tired of seeing the same horse beaten every other day. This is hardly the best place for her fundraising endeavors. She has more active venues that should be pursued.

2. The only drama queen (no e on the end) is the person who is suddenly getting pervert emails after using the word "homeless". Not buying that one for one second.

3. emo???? Huh??

4. (surprise, surprise) Wott are you, Gomer Pyle???


Lissajess - 4/23/2017 at 01:21 AM

quote:
Interesting as I don't ever remember trolling any of your previous posts from years back.

Guess I better look that up and see if I was out of line.

The idea of asking us to beg for you was tacky as all hell.

I still feel sorry for you but it seems you spend much more time here than on facebook and that's a much bigger audience, as people have tried to point out.

You also deleted other posts after lisajess asked you about them.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by PhotoRon286]



Arlene I hope your situation improves soon.

What Ron is talking about is one night a couple of months after you joined you posted a picture. I did a google image search and it came back as coming from a males Facebook page. I made a remark about it being a males page.

In typical Ron fashion he ask me did I not have anything better to do with my evening.

It was insignificant at the time. The only thing that made me say Hummmm, was the next time you logged in you deleted any and all post with pictures and changed your Facebook link.

This is just to clarify, I'm sure you remember the incident.

May God's grace be with you and protect you.

[Edited on 4/23/2017 by Lissajess]


ladymule - 4/23/2017 at 02:04 AM

quote:
In fairness, this type of thing has always been frowned upon from the beginning. Rowland might have shut it down years ago. Don't think with the limited amount of posters now that Rowland pays much attention unless contacted.

Threads like this could escalate with multiple people doing the same. Some for valid reasons and others to make some cash. Not really the intent of the forum. People have donated to members' families after some unfortunate deaths but never with a "Fund Me" online type of venture.

That said - Arlene is obviously in need so she is trying. I mentioned that I didn't think this was going to be some miracle place to raise funds and it isn't. But the forum did support to a degree. But it is not the answer. I think that alone is reason enough to not get twisted with debate/pros and cons. After weeks, this forum has done what it can and will. Endless bumping up the thread will just continue the direction that it has been going in. Especially when Arlene at times gets critical even when that is not her intention. I think it will just aggravate her more without generating more cash. My 2 cents.

I personally believe Arlene but she could also be a 40 yr old guy in Mexico. If not her running a con then what about the next person? That is why this type of stuff or selling things was not allowed originally.

I imagine that doing interviews, Arlene must have gotten some things signed. Perhaps an auction type fund raiser could generate something.


I think you make some good points.

My point is there are Moderators here (Rowland absent or not) that can shut the thread down if they choose.

I hope Arlene is who she says she is because I donated to her and would not want to get ripped off. From her comments on the Fund Me page, it seems that she knows a number of the folks who contributed. I wish her well.


PhotoRon286 - 4/23/2017 at 02:23 AM

quote:
quote:
Interesting as I don't ever remember trolling any of your previous posts from years back.

Guess I better look that up and see if I was out of line.

The idea of asking us to beg for you was tacky as all hell.

I still feel sorry for you but it seems you spend much more time here than on facebook and that's a much bigger audience, as people have tried to point out.

You also deleted other posts after lisajess asked you about them.

[Edited on 4/22/2017 by PhotoRon286]



Arlene I hope your situation improves soon.

What Ron is talking about is one night a couple of months after you joined you posted a picture. I did a google image search and it came back as coming from a males Facebook page. I made a remark about it being a males page.

In typical Ron fashion he ask me did I not have anything better to do with my evening.

If was insignificant at the time. The only thing that made me say Hummmm, was the next time you logged in you deleted any and all post with pictures and changed your Facebook link.

This is just to clarify, I'm sure you remember the incident.

May God's grace be with you and protect you.


So I may have actually defended Arlene at the time while wondering if you were someone we were wary of?

Oh, the irony.

Another example of the deano legacy.


Lissajess - 4/23/2017 at 02:44 AM




So I may have actually defended Arlene at the time while wondering if you were someone we were wary of?

Oh, the irony.

Another example of the deano legacy.


Yelp that about sums it up.


WaitinForRain - 4/23/2017 at 03:53 AM

Quote:
So now you want US to beg for you?
This thread is seriously messed up.
I still feel sorry for you but that takes a lot of gall to ask/suggest that people spam their friends for you.
UNQUOTE


1) Arlene has exhausted all other avenues
2) Nobody forces you to read things that make you all ... Emo

Put yourself in her shoes. You have no money, no family, no income,
You lost your transportation and you don't fit any category that
enables any agency to help you. The word for this is destitute.

Some people just go do drugs on a street corner or jump off a bridge.

She persists.

You have everything. Health, job, money. You just got a raise. She has nothing.
She isn't gonna eat unless it is given by others. Let alone bathe, dress or go somewhere.

And yet she keeps trying. That is something. That is courage few have.
Sorry if it isn't in a package you all approve of.

I'd be less than gracious under all that stress.

Nobody loves you when you're down and out.








[Edited on 4/23/2017 by WaitinForRain]


CanadianMule - 4/23/2017 at 06:02 AM

quote:
quote:
In fairness, this type of thing has always been frowned upon from the beginning. Rowland might have shut it down years ago. Don't think with the limited amount of posters now that Rowland pays much attention unless contacted.

Threads like this could escalate with multiple people doing the same. Some for valid reasons and others to make some cash. Not really the intent of the forum. People have donated to members' families after some unfortunate deaths but never with a "Fund Me" online type of venture.

That said - Arlene is obviously in need so she is trying. I mentioned that I didn't think this was going to be some miracle place to raise funds and it isn't. But the forum did support to a degree. But it is not the answer. I think that alone is reason enough to not get twisted with debate/pros and cons. After weeks, this forum has done what it can and will. Endless bumping up the thread will just continue the direction that it has been going in. Especially when Arlene at times gets critical even when that is not her intention. I think it will just aggravate her more without generating more cash. My 2 cents.

I personally believe Arlene but she could also be a 40 yr old guy in Mexico. If not her running a con then what about the next person? That is why this type of stuff or selling things was not allowed originally.

I imagine that doing interviews, Arlene must have gotten some things signed. Perhaps an auction type fund raiser could generate something.


I think you make some good points.

My point is there are Moderators here (Rowland absent or not) that can shut the thread down if they choose.

I hope Arlene is who she says she is because I donated to her and would not want to get ripped off. From her comments on the Fund Me page, it seems that she knows a number of the folks who contributed. I wish her well.



I believe her completely. Hope her situation changes an soon even if it is small steps at first. You had some great ideas as did others. Even if they are avenues Arlene has tried or some she may not want to. Eventually someone may have a great idea/advice for her. Sometimes resources are as valuable long term.

Now if the thread continues to get all twisted then I do have an idea. A book entitled Please Help With Emergency Thank You. Just post the thread as is. No need for writing, just some editing and it becomes a Cult Classic and Arlene makes millions. Now there is a happy ending.


The_Newt - 4/23/2017 at 10:20 AM

quote:
Arlene is there a roof over your head? We do not need to know where, do not give out the location to people. Having worked in social work for 7 1/2 years I KNOW how the system works and doesn't work. Some of the shelters are not bad, if you are a couple then you get your own room. If not, they pair you up with someone you don't even know for one night, then the next day it could be someplace else with someone else you do not know. Bear in mind these people also are in crisis with many problems, life, logistical, emotional. If you can find some churches talk to some of the priests, they may let you sleep in there at night; in NYC some of the churches let the occupy wall street protesters sleep there during the winter. That would be better than a single person in a shelter situation.

Since you need an address for welfare, go online and find foreclosed properties, use one of those addresses. Pick up your mail there. Just try to be discreet, come home in the dark and leave in the morning in the dark. if they have a shed in the back, that would put a roof over your head, or a garage would also do and probably be better. Get a sleeping bag or an inflatable air mattress.

You might even be able to negotiate something with the bank holding the note on the property, tell them you would like to stay there while they are trying to sell it, and offer some rent. Any income on the property is better than nothing. If there are busses, mass transit, you can get around. You cannot remain in the position you are in now. You have to think outside the box.

If you can take a course at a college, you can get an id, you can use their libraries, fitness centers, they have cheap places to eat etc.

In the summer and off season many of them also rent out the dorms nightly, much cheaper than a hotel.

What do you do with your stuff? Get a cheap storage unit and some totes, put things in there.

Yes all this requires some money, but you got to do what you need to do to keep a roof over your head, and take care of your needs.

Churches have pantry and soup kitchens. The food is free, Habitat for Humanity runs respectable, compassionate ones and do not harass you for your life story.

As to the new car, get a mini van, it is easier to live in something where you can at least lay out flat. SUV's have big gas guzzling engines, the minivans are 4 cylinder, and drive like a car does. You take out the back seats and you can lay down.

Arlene, if you can drive, (and it is not a great job) most towns need bus drivers for the school kids. The pay is good. The job conditions, not so much, but most will let you take the smaller busses home if you want to. You could use that to get around.

Arlene when I was young (like 19) I learned to drive an airport limo, but I did not keep that job very long, I did other jobs with less stress. If you can drive, you can drive. Limos and cabs require special licenses and endorsements, the smaller busses may require it but some of the companies may let you train for it and help you pass it. Consider it. Wheels and a paycheck will help you a lot.






[Edited on 4/22/2017 by gina]


There's some good advice here.

Arleen, are you able to move in with friends or a roommate at all? Are you on disability? You do not have to have children in order to be on it if you are disabled. I know people who are on both state and federal disability who do not have children and they were easily able to get it.

Either way, good luck.

[Edited on 4/23/2017 by The_Newt]


bird72 - 4/23/2017 at 03:47 PM

I remember not having a home at 18..... couches, extended stays, wear out your welcome, even sneaking in friends garage late every night to sleeping bag it behind their back.... I got cheap student loan and got in drafting school, ate beans and potatoes for a year to make it through.

Recently, a few years ago, I got a dose of no money again. Small rental, huge (for me) debt. Spent 4 1/2 years paying it off. Learned frugality again. Use empty bread loaf bags again for sandwich bags to take peanut butter and jelly to work. Squeeze every angle. Had a great vehicle (96 Bronco) that my daughter got in a bind, so I gave it to her. I walked and was frugal for 2 years. A was asked a couple of times if I was homeless (?)... I rented the cheapest place I could that was safe downtown and created a world within walking distance, my work included. So no money sucks we all know.

I have a chair and tables on Craigslist for $75. IF I sell it I will donate some to your cause.

My unsolicited advice:

Create a world with a room and safety in an urban area that food and incidentals can be bought within walking distance. I found there is so much available in my downtown world.

Forget the car. Even with a free car, insurance, gas, and maintenance is over a year averaged to a few hundred a month. A whammy repair and yer done in a frugal world. New? 25K min? Operate frugal. The minimum say 200 a month keeping a car legal and going (that is optimism side of $ range). is 2400 a year. One can take many taxi rides for 25-50 each and be far less than 2400. I used taxi as my last option, rarely used. (We don't have bus to speak of here). If you have bus or train, sorry, car is a luxury and a $ that can be used for financial recovery instead of point A to B purpose, which is all a car is.

Until you get a stable location. Get a PO Box if you haven't. It is a face of stability and a place to get mail without interruption. Find a way to create a fake address until you have a real one. Use it in job applications. Storefront, friend address, do that.

I would make daily outings to every church, charity, municipal agency, citizens group, read ever free rag for jobs, I would hope there was a maybe mix of charity in giving of a job, but somewhere I could play some skill or semi skill into an exchange where I improved me. I feel if I spun energy that way something would happen.

Arlene, what I haven't read is a plan. You need a plan. Beyond money for apartment and car. Then what? A plan to sustain it. No matter how simple, how little an existence one needs a plan to attempt. I feel maybe donations might pick up if you showed: here is where I am, here is what I modestly hope for, and here is what I plan to do.

Sorry for long winded, I will throw a small amount if that damn table sells. But my last point: Expectations or hopes.... Most all people with any income, no matter how much, have it most of it or all of it committed. It is probably committed to debt payoff, cost of living, or if smart, to their financial future. And seeing from the outside may be incorrect. I eat out once a week or every other week. It is my one pleasure in life. I have slayed dragons to get that. But someone could look and say that is frivolous money. Another example, my old car. It cost less than a new round econo egg car on a car lot. But it can be looked at as an extravagance. I suppose I could sell and give to worthy causes. But at age 61 I finally have one not primered and ratty. So everyone has their story and we all just need kindness spread firstly. But also there is definite correlation between actions and reactions, life always gets down to math and physics, I always say.






piacere - 4/23/2017 at 04:34 PM

I don't know where most of you guys live but here in Providence we have social progams specifically designed and set up for people down on their luck. I can name at least four places where people can go to sleep and eat. That's just in Providence, there are probably more and certainly in the surrounding towns.

at one where I volunteered, people would sleep there, had to be out by seven a.m., go to work, come back for 5, eat, shower (women have their own private area, sleeping quarters, showers, tv) hang out, go to sleep. They're treated with respect and dignity.

with all the social programs and agencies and whatnot out there, all one has to do is look, be diligent. The resources are there, one just needs to look to find them. Some of these places, ALL of these places can't wait to help people out. That's why they're there.


CanadianMule - 4/23/2017 at 05:52 PM

Given the choice between shelters or living in my car - I take the car. Much harder in Canada or the States to the North because of the climate though.

Where you live makes a difference too. Have friends that complain about the costs of living in big cities. So move. Not always an option of course but sometimes it is a solution.


PhotoRon286 - 4/23/2017 at 07:08 PM

bird has some solid good advice.


gina - 4/23/2017 at 11:44 PM

Bad stuff can happen to anyone. Arlene is in a bad time, so reached out to those to whom she has some sense of kinship and family. When people are in crisis most ask for help. There have been some good ideas presented. She's trying to keep it together while in crisis. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable because deep down they know it could happen to them also, and they need to believe it never could. Look at Butch's situation, he was in crisis and could not find solutions to deal with his problems, he was iconic, loved by musicians and fans alike, yet he felt there was only one way out for him, and his chose a tragic exit. That's how bad things can be for anybody. So the criticism to Arlene seem wrong. She is trying to survive and do better.

Look at what happened to Erin Moran, and she was a celebrity. Dieing in a trailer park.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/erin-moran-apos-tragic-life-151533901.html



[Edited on 4/24/2017 by gina]


PhotoRon286 - 4/24/2017 at 02:05 AM

quote:
Bad stuff can happen to anyone. Arlene is in a bad time, so reached out to those to whom she has some sense of kinship and family. When people are in crisis most ask for help. There have been some good ideas presented. She's trying to keep it together while in crisis. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable because deep down they know it could happen to them also, and they need to believe it never could. Look at Butch's situation, he was in crisis and could not find solutions to deal with his problems, he was iconic, loved by musicians and fans alike, yet he felt there was only one way out for him, and his chose a tragic exit. That's how bad things can be for anybody. So the criticism to Arlene seem wrong. She is trying to survive and do better.

Look at what happened to Erin Moran, and she was a celebrity. Dieing in a trailer park.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/erin-moran-apos-tragic-life-151533901.html



[Edited on 4/24/2017 by gina]


Why bring a bi-polar former child actor into this???

She had numerous problems with substance abuse over the years, her last appearance in Syracuse was a drunken farce as she had to be helped off the stage at the street rods show.

In spite of her problems, Arlene seems to be coherent, aware of her situation.

Autopsy shows Erin Moran died from stage 4 cancer.

[Edited on 4/24/2017 by PhotoRon286]


gina - 4/25/2017 at 08:56 PM

The point was that even celebrities have no assurance of an easy life, or being protected from devastation. That was the point.

I don't know about Erin's problems other than I read that she had stayed with her Mother who was in a trailer park, them the other article about the cancer. It is truly a tragic end.

I don't think that celebrities are different than anyone else except for the financial aspect. People are people. When they were created all were created equally, it is just life and other people that create the differences and the status.

In the end when we all return to God for Judgment Day, the celebs will not be at the front of the line or in a VIP area. Wherever you are when he calls everyone, that's where your place in line will be, I don't know where those who are resurrected will be, if they were martyred maybe they will not have to go thru Judgment because it has already been passed upon them. it will be an interesting time.


bird72 - 4/25/2017 at 09:51 PM

quote:
quote:
Bad stuff can happen to anyone.
Look at what happened to Erin Moran, and she was a celebrity. Dieing in a trailer park.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/erin-moran-apos-tragic-life-151533901.html



[Edited on 4/24/2017 by gina]


Why bring a bi-polar former child actor into this???

[Edited on 4/24/2017 by PhotoRon286]


I don't think people should be defined by a mental illness, Ron. She was more than that. And are child actors less than adult actors? Wait, yes, they get abused by work that others often pocket! And all this detracts from this OP thread. Sorry on intrusion. I sold the table so a small bit went out.


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