Thread: New Archive release

Denza - 6/25/2004 at 10:32 PM

I kinda thought that pre-sale password was a tip off...very, very nice...

http://www.hittinthenote.com/merchandise/kgeMerch.asp?category=1


Tim posted this on the Listserv:

NOW, as a reward for your patience, Kid Glove is very happy and proud to
announce the 3rd archival release from the Allman Brothers Band. Recorded
in their hometown of Macon, GA on February 11, 1972, this 2-CD set shows
the majesty and the power and the resilience of the five-man band as they
carried on the dream following the loss of Duane Allman. This period was
very pivotal in the existence of the ABB, and as is clearly evident by this
recording, they had the strength and courage to continue to make incredible
music. This CD features five songs not previously released on the archival
series, in particular Aint Wastin Time No More, Les Brers in A minor, and a
raucous version of Hoochie Coochie Man from Brother B.O. Go to our website
at www.hittinthenote.com and look in the New Merchandise section for a more
detailed description of this CD.

We are offering a special subscription rate to Hittin the Note magazine if
you order this new archival release - $5.00 off a 1-year subscription! Get
all the latest news about your favorite bands and artists, the ABB, Govt
Mule, Derek Trucks Band, and many others, as Hittin the Note brings you in-
depth coverage of these and many others, as well as a copious quantity of
CD reviews and special features and show reviews.

Instant Live CDs, the Allman Brothers Band, Macon GA 2/11/72, and a special
subscription rate to Hittin the Note; Kid Glove brings you all of this and
much more. Visit us on our website at www.hittinthenote.com and see all the
great merchandise and CDs we have for you, our loyal fans and customers.
Have a great summer, and we will see you down the road somewhere.

Allman Brothers Band - Macon City Auditorium, 2-11-72

DISC ONE
"Statesboro Blues"
"Done Somebody Wrong"
"Ain't Wastin' Time No More"
"One Way Out"
"Midnight Rider"
"You Don't Love Me"
"Stormy Monday"
"Hoochie Coochie Man"
"Hot 'Lanta"

DISC TWO
"Les Brers in A minor"
"Trouble No More"
"Whipping Post"

[Edited on 6/25/2004 by Denza]


Libby - 6/26/2004 at 12:35 AM

I'm looking forward to hearing this, based on Goliath's review over on the guestbook, Capt. Skipper has worked his magic again. God bless Capt. Skipper and all involved in getting this release out to us. I'm looking forward to many more archive releases.



[Edited on 6/26/2004 by Libby]


WharfRat - 6/26/2004 at 12:48 AM

WOOHOOO Sweet!


PaulMcFadyen - 6/26/2004 at 09:30 AM


JaminRebel - 6/26/2004 at 11:37 AM




Now here is a show I haven't heard. I don't think good quality audios of this show have been traded. So this will be a NEW show for some of us. Whooo hooo.










[Edited on 6/26/2004 by JaminRebel]


merlin28 - 6/26/2004 at 11:44 AM

Gurgle....Gurgle...Gurgle......YA-HOOOOOOO!!!!!!


Goliath - 6/26/2004 at 12:54 PM

I'm listening to it right now. The way that everyone stepped up to try to fill the void that Duane's passing left is extraordinary. This is easily the best recording of the 5 man era I have heard, and one of the best shows from any era.

This night, Gregg was in superb form, singing with Ray Charles like intensity. He was playing, too. Right on top of the songs, stepping out-stepping up.

Jaimoe and Butch pouring their entire being into the mix..... just concentrating on what they are playing will keep me occupied for many, many more hours.

I am so proud of Dickey, listening to this show. A brilliant, virtuoso performance. This is the emergence of Dickey Betts, guitar hero, the inspiration to a generation of the young guitarists of the time, and for me still, to this day.

I am still coming to grips with Berry Oakley's playing in this difficult time. I would describe it as "beautifully desperate". Fierce and melodic. Duane had this quality in his playing that is very difficult to explain, but it was like a madman, a frenzied power, I don't know how to explain it, but he taught Berry about it, and to a more or less greater extent, the rest of the band. Berry is all over each and every one of these tunes, channeling something that was both exhilirating, but also a little scary. What can I say, he was goddamn hoochie coochie man...Get ya some, thanks to TBTB (the powers that be) for such wonderful product!!!!!


PeachNutt - 6/26/2004 at 12:59 PM

well said amigo- Duane had the fever and passed along to everyone else....
can't wait to get my new copy.....
pretty cool it was released 6/25/04....33years to the day of the fabled Fillmore shows.....
the closing week-end run of FE- 6/25-27/71.......


[Edited on 6/26/2004 by PeachNutt]


JaminRebel - 6/26/2004 at 01:47 PM

. This CD features five songs not previously released on the archival
series, in particular Aint Wastin Time No More, Les Brers in A minor, and a
raucous version of Hoochie Coochie Man from Brother B.O. Go to our website
at www.hittinthenote.com and look in the New Merchandise section for a more
detailed description of this CD.





What does this mean? As far as the archival series goes, this is number 3, right? So no version of this show was ever released in archival form. So how is the show now five songs longer? This explanation makes this release sound like a Re-issue with live tracks that were previously unissued. I guess I am missing something here. And I don't think anything other than low quality versions of this show were being traded. I'm right about this aren't I? I mean, I don't have this show, but I think I have seen a couple of traders trading B quality audios of it.



Stagger_Lee_of_Terrapin - 6/26/2004 at 01:55 PM

I no im Picking this one up.

Peace
Lee


UNCLEJON75 - 6/26/2004 at 01:57 PM

ditto


JNB - 6/26/2004 at 04:28 PM

What we mean is that those five songs have never appeared on any archival release before...

Willie Howard said it right - you can feel the painful absence of Duane and yet the power and majesty of this band still comes through!

Long live the memory of Brother Duane Allman!

JNB


cleaneduphippy - 6/26/2004 at 04:56 PM

Well I'm looking forward to getting this release. I certainly remember the 5-piece line-up of the ABB playing at Cameron Indoor Statium, the Saturday (5 Feb, 1972) before they did the Macon show. You certainly could tell the band was still going through the greiving process, but they put on one of the most heartfelt, soulfull performance they I have every witness from any band, and I'm sure a lot of what I felt and hear is going to come through on this archival release.


JaminRebel - 6/26/2004 at 07:19 PM

Have Recordings. From the database

CDR AUD marco
2 disc show


CDR A- Unknown phillybob


CDR B Unknown GlennBoireau


CDR Ungraded linus
Has moments where quality is quite good.
lots of audience comments/noise,
some VERY rough spots. completists only

****************************************************



So it's fair to assume that the 2/11/72 release is not the general
poop audio version that was in limited circulation. This should be
one goal of a release, to release a better source, to introduce
old fans, and new fans to and old audio from an unheard source.
Looks like a good plan. So maybe we are going to hear a show from each year.
Is 1973 next?






JNB - 6/27/2004 at 12:27 AM

The Macon release is soundboard, 7.5" IPS, 1/4"stereo reel to reel.

IMHO, start to finish, it is probably our best sounding archive recording so far...

Still, it is a 32 year year old analog tape...

What is somewhat eerie to me is that it starts off with Dickey Betts playing slide on Statesboro Blues, which is what Dickey kicked off his show with just a few weeks ago - when I saw him at the Variety Playhouse in Atlanta. When I heard Dickey do that I was immediately transported back to the early 70's and missing Duane all over again.

As far as each year, I don't know...it's just evolving as we go...

JNB

JNB

[Edited on 6/27/2004 by JNB]


PaulMcFadyen - 6/27/2004 at 08:03 AM

Really looking forward to ordering this, JNB - as soon as I can figure out why the heck HTN doesn't want to accept my CC details! (yes, I do have plenty of credit on it!! Something wrong with my address details, allegedly)

Oh well, looks like it'll have to be a transatlantic phone call, tomorrow morning...


JNB - 6/27/2004 at 04:20 PM

Hi Paul,

Sorry we're having trouble processing your card.

Unfortunately, overseas is where we get the most fraud and our credit card processors have a real tight address definition. It must be exactly like your credit card statement address. We want to do all we can to make this easier - so if you have success, or find out why it's not working - please let us know.

One of the ironies of this is that the processors don't want to point out where the address error is because it helps the bad guys trying to create fraud! So, the evil efforts of a few affect the many...wish it was different.

Thanks for trying and look forward to speaking with you tomorrow!

JNB

[Edited on 6/28/2004 by JNB]


PaulMcFadyen - 6/27/2004 at 09:12 PM

Hi Joe,

Well, I finally got it to work tonight - you're right about the address thing: despite having binned my CC statements, I tried a couple more permutations & it really does want it just so

Wow! I'm really excited about this now! Though I'm not likely to hear it for a few weeks, it's really going to give me a good reason to look forward to coming home, when I get back from our forthcoming family holiday (vacation to you guys!)

Just one more thing: HTN has a $10 shipping option for overseas CD orders only, yet it looks from my order page as though I was charged $25, for the US Postal Economy Service. Which is correct? I'm hoping it's the $10, naturally!


JNB - 6/27/2004 at 11:54 PM

We've got some software work to do in the overseas dept. So we manually check every overseas order to make sure it has the correct shipping charges...we're working on it!

Yes, we do have a $10, CD only, shipping service -sometimes it takes up to 5 weeks to arrive, although many people say it gets there quicker than that. For $5 more you can get two week delivey.

Glad things worked out...thanks for the order!

JNB

[Edited on 6/28/2004 by JNB]


fsducati - 6/28/2004 at 01:52 AM

Is the CD ready for shipping or is it still in pre-sale?


Stagger_Lee_of_Terrapin - 6/28/2004 at 02:38 AM

is the second disc of the show one of those like 30 minute poopers or a substantional 45+ minute disc.

One thing. I wouldnt mind a filler included in the archive realeses. Like if u have 50 mins left on a cd why not put it to good use

Peace
Lee


JNB - 6/28/2004 at 04:01 AM

We are shipping 2-11-72 now.

The premise is that we are presenting a complete performance. If the show was longer then it would create more time on a second disc - if not, so be it.

The second disc on Stonybrook was about 40 minutes.

The second disc on the Macon 2-11-72 is about 30 minutes.

I can certainly understand the concept of wanting more!

Thanks for the input...

JNB


captskipper - 6/28/2004 at 05:16 AM

Id venture a wild guess that after you hear the Les Brers in A Minor, Trouble No More and Whipping Post on the 2/11/72 disc 2 no one will be labeling it as a "pooper disc"


D28guy - 6/28/2004 at 06:57 AM

Its 3AM monday morning now. I processed my order Friday night. I paid more for "2 day delivery", but I dont know when the "2 day" period begins.

Can I expect it by, lets say, the end of the week?

"D"


jimmysdragonsuit - 6/28/2004 at 09:18 AM

This is great - thanks to all involved.

BTW, I'm in the UK too, so please check shipping costs as you mentioned above. Relating them to cost of CDs already killed me for the Instant Live 6 pack....I trade alot across the pond, and the shipping costs do seem high. Its worth it though...

Looking forward to this year's Instant Lives...or I could save my $ for a trip to next year's Beacon run...decisions...

Peace

JDS


JaminRebel - 6/28/2004 at 09:24 AM

quote:
Id venture a wild guess that after you hear the Les Brers in A Minor, Trouble No More and Whipping Post on the 2/11/72 disc 2 no one will be labeling it as a "pooper disc"



Skip, I've never even heard the 2/11/72 show. I was just assuming, and properly, that the archive people were not relasing some low grade B quality "poop" audio. And I collect abb "poop" audios. I collect Skynyrd "poop" audios. There are still a lot of good shows out there that have sucky sound, or they are challenged. MY POINT, WAS, THAT WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO HEAR A NEW SOURCE.


These shows are also low quality, 1972 "poop" audios, but I still love em.

1/25/72 Atlanta, GA Municipal Aud. 2cdrs B+ aud boomy/bassy/muffled. Still good!

2/20/72 Peoria, Ilinois, The Barn 1cdr B+/A- aud little rough. Great show!!

6/17/72 Memorial Stadium Charlotte, NC 1cdr B+

8/31/72 Atlanta, GA Municipal Auditorium 1cdr B+ aud




[Edited on 6/28/2004 by JaminRebel]


JaminRebel - 6/28/2004 at 09:34 AM




So the 2/11/72 show IS a TWO CD show?


My comments were only directed at sound quality. I was not complaining about getting a disc that was short. I just got that 10/20/75 show and disc three is just 15 minutes or more. That is a one track disc, only whipping post. But that is fine with me.




All I was ever saying is that the abb is finally releasing a NEW SOURCE. Most people haven't even heard this show. Many traders don't trade for low quality shows. They pick up the better audios. The fanatics, they collect everything, like the last BO show with just three songs, or the Watkins Glenn Soundcheck, or the 7/19/70 show. I don't have any of these. I don't much care to have them.


rusinurbe - 6/28/2004 at 11:49 AM

I'm Smiling Happy I'm Trying to order and will have to phone my order in it appears CCN is just very Pickey.


RyanBelair - 6/28/2004 at 03:20 PM

Goliath,

Great review, particularly of Berry's playing. I have yet to hear this show but I have always gotten a feeling of a "frightening urgency" in the 5 man bands playing. Very cathartic and beautiful, but also sad and a bit scary. "Ain't Wastin Time no More" indeed to the point of almost dangerously out of control, at very least in regards to Berry's playing. Very powerful stuff can't wait to get my copy of the show!

Ryan


awman - 6/28/2004 at 03:21 PM

Dickey really stepped up the plate during this era, kept the band going. How soon they forget...

[Edited on 6/28/2004 by awman]


Sandman - 6/28/2004 at 03:48 PM

I can see both sides of this, wanting to present a complete performance or wanting to fill up an entire disc with music.

With only 30 minutes of music on this disc two, that would leave over 40 minutes of possible filler material from a show that wouldn't necessarily be able to stand on it's own. That might be a good idea if there's a song or three in the archive that needs to be heard but the rest of that particular concert is not up to par or is simply non-existant. Just include that mini-set as filler at the end of a full show...I guess I can see that....

But, frankly, I'm just happy another archive release is coming and will continue to support the efforts of HTN to keep these great releases coming. Thanks again


Johnny - 6/28/2004 at 03:56 PM

I remember seeing this lineup at the Hampton Colliseum with wet Willie and J Geils. Truthfully, I can't even recall anything about those two from that night. But the ABB... wow! It took a couple of songs to realize that Duane wasn't going to step out from behind a speaker and grin and do his magic. Once the reality set in we sat back and listened to some of the most intense music we'd ever heard. Goliath- fierce and melodic! What a great description. I too cannot imagine how heavy Berry's heart felt after losing his friend Duane. He certainly is the god-damned Hoochie Coochie MAN!!!


Marley - 6/28/2004 at 07:07 PM

quote:
Dickey really stepped up the plate during this era, kept the band going. How soon they forget...

30 years (and never) is soon?


Stephen - 6/28/2004 at 07:19 PM

Really looking forward to picking this up.
In addition to everything else, the boys were SKINNY in this era -- in a radio interview Gregg recalled weighing about 138 during this time, and Dickey, Red Dog, Joe Dan and the rest were similar -- if I recall correctly, a comment on the "today in history" section of the old forum who saw the Brothers in Troy NY in '72 wrote, "a skinnier looking bunch you never saw." A combination of grieving, closing ranks, duji and giving everything they ever felt to Duane and us fans.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ARCHIVISTS.
Love ya, ABB


JNB - 6/29/2004 at 01:22 AM

Kirk has spent so much of his life working towards this and all of us at HTN can think of no greater joy than spreading the notes of this wonderful music...so thanks for your kind comments - it always feels good to know that others dig it as much as we do!

JNB


Jonesy - 6/29/2004 at 02:38 AM

quote:
Id venture a wild guess that after you hear the Les Brers in A Minor, Trouble No More and Whipping Post on the 2/11/72 disc 2 no one will be labeling it as a "pooper disc"


The Captain has a way with words


billybarool - 6/29/2004 at 04:36 PM

Is anyone else getting sick of seeing the same setlists on the live releases? (Not just archival releases)

You know I love these songs but I would like to see a little change every once and a while

[Edited on 6/29/2004 by billybarool]


RobJohnson - 6/29/2004 at 04:50 PM

There are five songs on the new archive that aren't on either of the other two:

Ain't Wastin Time No More
Les Brers In A Minor
Hoochie Coochie Man
Midnight Rider
Hotlanta

Good versions too! Les Brers is awesome, Hotlanta smokes, Hoochie Coochie Man shows why Berry Oakley was just flat-out the MAN!

Otherwise, keep in mind that the Allman Brothers didn't really change up their setlists too much back in the day. What made them so special was that every night, every song was unique. Also, on this new archive release you are really hearing a different band than on the first two. Without Duane, the rest of the band had to bring their playing to a higher level, and they did.


Sandman - 6/29/2004 at 04:55 PM

Man, I can't wait....

Do you think the postal Gods sent that package flying through the system to Iowa so it's in my mailbox now waiting for me when I get home? ooooh, fingers crossed to the postal Gods


JNB - 6/30/2004 at 02:51 AM

We're shipping lots everyday! Hopefully you will get yours shipped this week!

JNB


Sandman - 6/30/2004 at 02:53 AM

Take your time...but hurry up


PaulMcFadyen - 6/30/2004 at 10:40 AM

That's Berry, Kreedham!

I believe Chuck's first show was actually Berry's very last show - Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11/2/72 (neat & weird reversal of the Macon date, eh?); this was filmed for Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, of which 3 songs in audio circulate.

This is one we DEFINITELY need for the multi-disc DVD release!!


JeffB - 6/30/2004 at 01:59 PM

This is quite a treat. As I have posted before, a very stirring and emotional set. If anyone has already received their copy, is there a photo of the performance? The curtain that usually was used as a backdrop at this venue was raised, and the brick wall was the background for this show. It evoked the memory of the Fillmore cover. A nice touch I thought.


JNB - 6/30/2004 at 10:42 PM

Lot's of in-between-song banter on this one as well!

No photo of the performance, though, but there is a picture of the show poster with the classic ABB yellow mushroom on a blue background...Ticket prices $4 & $5!

JNB


JNB - 6/30/2004 at 10:46 PM

Regarding the question ealier in the thread about when to expect a 2nd day shipment to arrive...we do have to get to the order first, once we do that, then we will ship it out 2nd day.

Right now we are running about three days behind in processing orders - doing the best we can! We should be able to catch up by Friday, in terms of processing orders, so if you ordered it today, we should ship it Monday.

JNB


PaulMcFadyen - 7/1/2004 at 08:03 AM

Joe,

Comments noted about the photos - I'm sure the packaging on this one will be great, whatever.

For future releases, do you think you guys could source an interesting photo or two, for the inner sleeve? I realise that, for some of the old stuff, it's unlikely that you will have any pictures from THAT specific show, but it would be nice to have some pics of the approximate vintage to look at, when listening to the music. Of course, if you manage to track down any previously unpublished snaps to go in them, that would be even better!!

How about putting an open request on the HTW homepage for band snaps (like they do on www.dead.net) or, with the photographers permission, using some of the stuff already submitted to the Media Gallery? Just an idea...


jimmysdragonsuit - 7/1/2004 at 11:02 AM

Hi JNB/Rob

Just sent an email to ask that htn recheck the postage costs on my order (CD only, overseas) in line with earlier posts in this thread. Please can you follow up for me? The total comes to more than I'd expect if it had been manually adjusted. It's # 20204

Thanks

JDS

[Edited on 7/1/2004 by jimmysdragonsuit]


Goliath - 7/1/2004 at 01:06 PM

quote:
Lot's of in-between-song banter on this one as well!


"We're recording tonight, that's why there are 15,000 mics up here. Get it? 15,000 mics? "

That Berry was a funny cat.....


BillyEddins - 7/1/2004 at 08:01 PM

Hot Lanta dedicated to The People of Jackson Alabama.

That was the second jail that they were in. Busted in Grove Hill ( Where Nobody goes) and moved to Jackson. Truck stop where they were busted was between the two towns. Next county over from me. Aikens and I used to eat there late after I got a haircut.

I think that is the reason for the dedication.

Just finished listening to Cd.
That You Don't Love Me is a Killer.


D28guy - 7/1/2004 at 08:24 PM

OK, 1st of all. I had the question about 2nd day delivery. It came today, after I was expecting tomorrow, so no complaints there! Thanks to the folks doing the shipping!

Lots of discussion a few days ago about the sound quality. People...ITS GOOD!!! Very Good! Relax!

The thing just happened to arive about 20 minutes before I had to leave for work...talk about torturous timing...so I could only listen to part of it, but the 15 minutes or so I listened to...2 tracks completly, then bouncing from track to track just to check sound quality...tells me theres no need for anyone to be concerned. If the sound quality was bad before, then Skip did a masterful job improving it. There is nothing I heard that is even remotely close to the 1st 3 or 4 tracks on Stoneybrook.

Actually, what I heard sounds about like the Atlanta Pop release.

Again, I still havent listened to a few of the tracks, but what I have heard is "A" quality to my ears.

"D"


Sandman - 7/1/2004 at 08:26 PM

Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll be waiting for me when I get home....


JaminRebel - 7/1/2004 at 10:11 PM

quote:
theres no need for anyone to be concerned. If the sound quality was bad before, then Skip did a masterful job improving it. There is nothing I heard that is even remotely close to the 1st 3 or 4 tracks on Stoneybrook.

Actually, what I heard sounds about like the Atlanta Pop release.




Has skip done work on the official releases? It's news to me if he is involved in any of that. I thought he just did his own thing, and that the abb and HTN were cool with that.


tuna - 7/1/2004 at 10:14 PM

I was not informed either. Outrageous.


Sandman - 7/1/2004 at 10:15 PM

Empty mailbox


josh - 7/1/2004 at 10:25 PM

Skip mastered this release and the Stonybrook release. Does a damn fine job too!!! Thanks Capt Skipper!

Received my copy yesterday, WOW!! A big Thank you to everyone at Hittin' the Note and Kirk West. Again, you've outdone yourselves w/ providing us w/ such high quality music. Play It LOUD!

[Edited on 7/1/2004 by josh]


JNB - 7/1/2004 at 11:01 PM

Hi Jimmydragonsuit!

PM me with your real name and we will double check those shipping charges...

I agree about the photos with specific shows - we were able to do that on American University...not sure what the story was on photos for Macon 2-11-72. Good input!

We're shipping hundreds of Macon shows out everyday - THANK YOU!!! Please spread the word on all the listserves you can - OK?

Hope you get yours soon sandman - PM me with your name and I 'll double check the order (I use to know it but my brain got fried over these past two months!)

JNB


Sandman - 7/1/2004 at 11:03 PM

Awesome Josh. But I don't think it was our Capt Skip that did the StonyBrook release.

Thanks Joe. Just sent you a PM. But I'm not worried at all Mail to Iowa seems to take an extra day or two....


PeachNutt - 7/2/2004 at 12:05 AM

just got mine- the sound is great.....thanks to all at HTN - love you guys!!!


captskipper - 7/2/2004 at 12:32 AM

"Awesome Josh. But I don't think it was our Capt Skip that did the StonyBrook release"
Sandman
Right you are Sandman, it was Skip Slaughter that mastered the Stonybrook 9/19/71 show


awman - 7/2/2004 at 12:40 AM

quote:
"Awesome Josh. But I don't think it was our Capt Skip that did the StonyBrook release"
Sandman
Right you are Sandman, it was Skip Slaughter that mastered the Stonybrook 9/19/71 show


Ahhh, whadda you know anyway???

Skip. you know I am proudly wearing that "Republic Of Tea" so-called "lucky shirt" right now!!! If that doesn't work, time for the "GOT MULE" to make an appearance...with no one commenting on it again probably...I know Joisey is a Mule hotbed but I guess they aren't here...


ClayPelland - 7/2/2004 at 12:52 AM

Yeh, but he did do the 2.11.72 and it's absolutley amazing! This is by far the best 5 man show on this planet! Performance, sound quality and whatever else you can throw in the pot. It's worth every penny plus!

Skip my man, My hat's off to ya Brother! What a great job!

We don't know how lucky we are to have someone like Skip, that's one of us, actually doing the real work and finally getting credit where credit is due and deserved! He's paid his dues and now it's time for everyone to know it!

JNB & Rob, I owe you one! Many many thanks!


JNB - 7/2/2004 at 03:55 AM

No, thank you!

With everyone's support of the magazine and the merchandise that we sell, we are able to help facilitate the release of these Archival CDs. It is one of the main motivators for all of us here at Kid Glove.

Please help spread the word everywhere you can and don't copy 'em, send folks directly to the ABB label!

Thanks again for all the kind words!

JNB


D28guy - 7/2/2004 at 06:58 AM

WHOAAA!!!

Who is the 2nd guitarist playing with them on You Dont Love Me???

I posted earlier that I could only listen to a couple of tracks because of having to go to work, but I'm back from work now and listening to "You Dont Love Me" as I am typing, through headphones, and there are 2 guitars, both taking lead breaks. One on the left channel and the other in the right.

Good grief, they are trading licks during the part when everything stops but them.

Who the heck is it???

I cant find anything in the liner notes

"D"


PaulMcFadyen - 7/2/2004 at 08:01 AM

Courtesy of Brother Clay, I can reveal that it is Alex Taylor, James Taylor's brother.

BTW, on the subject of offering public gratitude, I should thank Clay and Skip once again for their very kind offers (you know what i'm talking about guys! ) - it's people like you who make this forum what it is...


petri - 7/2/2004 at 09:07 AM

By the info and praise of this new archival release that I have read here I can´t wait `til I get it in my player...

quote:
BTW, on the subject of offering public gratitude, I should thank Clay and Skip once again for their very kind offers (you know what i'm talking about guys! ) - it's people like you who make this forum what it is...

I second this - wholeheartedly!


Goliath - 7/2/2004 at 12:24 PM

A bunch of us think it may be Alex Taylor, but it could also be Jimmy Nalls, Dru Lombar, or someone else...the consensus is Alex, but we really don't know, and I suppose that is why there is no credit in the liner notes...Gregg does say that 'we are going to bring up Alex Taylor to sing a few songs with us..."Jimmy Nalls played in Alex's band, along with Chuck....None of the principals remember anything about who that guitarist was....

I love that dedication to Jackson, AL...we're gonna play a song about Georgia....they were a little bit pissed.....just a little. Great HotLanta, too. Dickey smoked it.

Wishing the band a great run on this leg of the tour, wish I could get up to one of these shows before the Fox run.




captskipper - 7/2/2004 at 01:39 PM

On that 2nd guitar player I think I'll cast my guess to the consensus choice, Alex Taylor. And being as I will be down in Baja California building my vacation getaway beach bungalow for most of the summer Id just like to send Kirk West a monster thank you for the opportunity he gave me to work on this archive project. I just cant put into words what it means to me to have worked on an Allman Brothers production, it just blows my mind. Kirk was at the helm of this gig from the git and was with me every step of the way with "to-do's", suggestions, spirit, entusiasm and support. Upon completion of my work on the show Kirk traveled to Casa Del Norte up Nashville way, where he, Lee Roy Parnell & John Kunz performed the fine tuning & finsihing touches on the project to make me look good. Thanks Lee Roy!! Joe Bell & the rest of the team now have the major task of getting it out there so hang with em folks cause your order will arrive anyday. Hope you all enjoy the show as much as I enjoyed it.


RobJohnson - 7/2/2004 at 02:21 PM

Enjoy your vacation bungalow, bro! The sound quality on this release is excellent, and we appreciate everything you did to make that happen. Happy Independence Day Everyone!


Sandman - 7/2/2004 at 03:58 PM

I see this release is getting some love on a Widespread Panic forum....


JNB - 7/2/2004 at 07:21 PM

I tried to find that forum on Widespread's site - what's the addy?

JNB


Sandman - 7/2/2004 at 07:23 PM

It's not their official site. I'll go look for the link. Unfortunately, that site gets a ton of traffic and that thread has slipped into the back pages...


Sandman - 7/2/2004 at 07:24 PM

http://p218.ezboard.com/fjambandsfrm2

It's probably on page 10 by now....


Sandman - 7/2/2004 at 07:28 PM

There, it's on page one again....


ClayPelland - 7/3/2004 at 12:41 AM

quote:
quote:
Yeh, but he did do the 2.11.72 and it's absolutley amazing! This is by far the best 5 man show on this planet! Performance, sound quality and whatever else you can throw in the pot. It's worth every penny plus!

Skip my man, My hat's off to ya Brother! What a great job!

We don't know how lucky we are to have someone like Skip, that's one of us, actually doing the real work and finally getting credit where credit is due and deserved! He's paid his dues and now it's time for everyone to know it!

JNB & Rob, I owe you one! Many many thanks!




Well, I hope this means Skip get paid for his soundwork. And does he get more money in terms of sales? Or did Skip refuse compensation? Just wondering.





Dean, Come on now? You know good and well that's nobody's business. Especially in a public forum.


Marley - 7/3/2004 at 02:19 AM

Skip has a skill and is good enough to get paid for it by professional bands. That certainly seems like something to make fun of him for. (What the hell?)


PhotoRon286 - 7/3/2004 at 02:42 AM

quote:
Id venture a wild guess that after you hear the Les Brers in A Minor, Trouble No More and Whipping Post on the 2/11/72 disc 2 no one will be labeling it as a "pooper disc"


Skip said "pooper"

Drop dead Dean.


Marley - 7/3/2004 at 02:48 AM

Let me put that another way: unless you've got some kind of talent - ANY talent - you probably shouldn't be making fun of Skip's, Dean.


PhotoRon286 - 7/3/2004 at 02:49 AM

After reading all through the thread to get to here, may I say CONGRATS SKIP!!!

About time you got to "Officially" show your talent.

Damn happy to see that.

More power to you my friend.

And maybe them Flyer boys will pick up their former captain from the waiver wire.

As a Devils fan, I know I'd love that!


PhotoRon286 - 7/3/2004 at 02:55 AM

quote:
Please do not feed the troll.


Hey OTF!

Long time no.....

In response to Marley, Dean has a major talent/skill.

No one on this site can piss off so many people in such a short time as Dean.

No one.


PhotoRon286 - 7/3/2004 at 03:20 AM

quote:



Hey everybody, COME ON.


We're kicking the living SH!T out of Deano for an innocent comment.


Hurry, let's pummel him until he logs off.


We'll show him how we treat people who make silly comments about Capt Skip.





LOL

I bet you been "logging off" all night.

Don't let mommy catch you.

And stop being so damn jealous of Skip.

You couldn't re-master a mono 45 of "Ride Captain Ride"

Get over it.


JNB - 7/4/2004 at 12:43 AM

Let's get back to the music discussion...

What about Berry on this - he was so amazing!

Last night Bill Ector and i went to see the Braves beat the Redsox (in the 12th!) and listened to ABB Atlanta 1-25-72 on the way to the stadium. That time period is such an interesting, yet gut-wrenching study in song composition as two lead guitars turns into one...

JNB

[Edited on 7/4/2004 by JNB]


D28guy - 7/4/2004 at 10:31 AM

...

[Edited on 7/4/2004 by D28guy]


Stephen - 7/4/2004 at 06:33 PM

JNB, Isn't that version of Les Brers something! (from Atlanta 1/25). What about the Mtn. Jam too -- on that there's no getting over Duane's absence. It's no wonder this was the only time the 5 man band tried it.
Yes, being blown away by a band in recovery from deep grief -- that is what I call amazing. What a band. GREAT choice for the newest archive release, & thanks again. Will be picking mine up shortly.


DarylM - 7/4/2004 at 07:03 PM

Although I anxiously wait for my copy to be shipped up here
to the tundra and delivered via the Canada Post dogsled......I
must express my disappointment that `Liz Reed' isn't on the
disc. I would have thought that baby was on the set-list *every*
night. I know that if I'd been lucky enough to see the band in
'72 and they didn't haul out `Liz Reed'...I would have been
bummed. Two out of the three archival sets don't include `Liz
Reed'....interesting....but I'm not going to blame Kid Glove for
that! :-)


Stephen - 7/4/2004 at 07:18 PM

Yeah, but that one ER (from Set 2, 9/19) makes up for the absence of it on the other two releases!

Hope you're having a great holiday Daryl, & BTW I'll try to post Willie's essay introing the band into the HOF ASAP (at least I think that was your post).


D28guy - 7/4/2004 at 10:22 PM

Actually, you get 4 Liz Reeds on the 6 archive releases.

Even though only 3 are official "archive releases", in essence the ABB archive releases are...

Live at Ludlow Garage

Fillmore East Feb 70 (1 Liz Reed)

American University

Stoneybrook (1 Liz Reed)

Atlanta Pop Festival (2 Liz Reeds)

Macon City Auditorium

Also, this brings up a couple of questions. First, why wasnt Atlanta Pop Festival the 3rd archive release and Macon the 4th?

2nd, why isnt the ABB organisation still offering the Fillmore Feb 70 release?(The one recorded by the Dicks Picks guy)

And if that was just a temporary arrangement between the 2 organisations, is it still available through the Gratefull Dead folks?

Thanks,

"D"


charliec - 7/4/2004 at 10:31 PM

I am loving vol 3! It's sweet.
Hey how about the infamous 4 hr watkins glen show for number 4!

Thanks again folks at Kid glove.


D28guy - 7/4/2004 at 11:07 PM

CharlieC,

I have wondered about that show for a long time, hoping it might be released some time.(only "Come and Go Blues" from Wipe the Windows has been released)

But, I seem to remember on a thread here somewhere that it wasnt good and would be a disappointment if released. I dont know if it was viewed that way because the sound quality was poor, or the playing was just so so. I remember in "Midnight Riders" it was mentioned, and it seems like it was mentioed positively.

"D"

[Edited on 7/5/2004 by D28guy]


wearly89 - 7/5/2004 at 02:37 AM

The 12-31-73 Cow Palace show in San Fran is one of my favorites. Garcia and Kreutsman and Boz Skaggs join in to close out about the last third of the show. It should be given some consideration.


captskipper - 7/5/2004 at 02:51 AM

I wouldnt figure that 12/31/73 would get much consideration even though it is one fine show. It is circulated and traded widely because there are many very good versions of it available and it is widely bootlegged.


CB - 7/5/2004 at 02:56 AM

12/31/73 is great.

12/31/72 from the Warehouse in NOLA gets my vote.

Or how about 6/9 & 6/10/73 five disc set? WOOOOHOOOOO.

CB

[Edited on 7/5/2004 by CB]


2old2boogie - 7/5/2004 at 04:59 AM

I was at the Carnegie Hall Thanksgiving late show November 1971.

I also saw the 5 man ABB at the Paladium in NYC in (I think) April 1972.

For me, both shows were very emotional without Duane.

By the way, here's my take on the unknown guitarist on "You Don't Love Me.":

1. J. Geils jammed with the ABB on "Stormy Monday" at the Carnegie Hall Show. Only Wet Willie was the opening act. I think someone said they were an opening act at this show, so it may be J. Geils.

2. As for Alex Taylor, I used to play his first (excellent) Capricorn LP on my radio shows. He only sang, and had studion guitarists on the album. Even if he did play guitar, I certainly don't think he would have been good enough to have played with Dickie on YDLM.

So, my guess would be that it might be J. Geils, who did a super job on "Stormy Monday" at Carnegie Hall. Actually, at the show, he played and wasn't introduced, and I didn't recognize him. I thought at the time that he might be a new guitarist trying out to join the band. A review of the concert mentioned that it was J. Geils on "Stormy Monday."


JNB - 7/5/2004 at 03:49 PM

Quote:

Also, this brings up a couple of questions. First, why wasnt Atlanta Pop Festival the 3rd archive release and Macon the 4th?

2nd, why isnt the ABB organisation still offering the Fillmore Feb 70 release?(The one recorded by the Dicks Picks guy)

And if that was just a temporary arrangement between the 2 organisations, is it still available through the Gratefull Dead folks?
_______________________________________________________________________

The Atlanta Pop tapes were in Sony's possession, thus released on Sony's label.

The 2-70 show is out of print but I believe that the ABB management is working with the folks at "Music Today" to get it reprinted. When It was first released, the Dead had their own merch company. Now that they are using corporate giant "Music Today" it is a little bit more difficult to get their attention...

The official release of Ludlow's Garage did not include Liz Reed but the bootleg version did?!

JNB


charliec - 7/5/2004 at 04:05 PM

In short keep them coming ABB folks. I love all 3 so far.


Hophead - 7/6/2004 at 12:13 AM


quote:
The official release of Ludlow's Garage did not include Liz Reed but the bootleg version did?!


This is correct. There is a small cutout in Liz Reed and the decision was made to leave it off the official release rather than include a flawed track. I disagree with the decision, BTW, but no one asked me ...


D28guy - 7/6/2004 at 02:45 AM

JNB,

quote:
"The Atlanta Pop tapes were in Sony's possession, thus released on Sony's label."


Oh, I didnt realise that. The 1st place I heard about it, I believe, was an anouncment from Lana saying it was coming out, so I mistakenly thought it was from the ABB.

quote:
"The 2-70 show is out of print but I believe that the ABB management is working with the folks at "Music Today" to get it reprinted. When It was first released, the Dead had their own merch company. Now that they are using corporate giant "Music Today" it is a little bit more difficult to get their attention..."


Until it is available again, is it therefore cool to burn a copy for someone...or not?

Thanks for the reponses!

"D"


captskipper - 7/6/2004 at 07:11 AM

Heres some more food for thought on the 2nd guitarist on the Macon 2/11/72 show
from Thomas Ward from a post on ABB Listserve:

"Macon 72 second guitarist? My vote goes to Tommy Talton or Jimmy Nalls.
I saw the Bros with Alex Taylor that same tour-I don't remember him
playing any guitar although he might have.....".

Hmmm, Seems like another Jimmy Nalls vote. I guess we cant rule out Ricky Hirsch either.


rusinurbe - 7/6/2004 at 11:19 AM

My Hats off to the folks at HTN,7 days from Order to Door for the Macon release not bad given that I live in the UK.


WOW still taking in the perormance its going to take more than one listen to get teh full feel for the show. Brilliant.

I just keep smiling


Libby - 7/6/2004 at 11:19 AM

Hey Skip, would that be Alex Taylor as in James Taylor's brother? I don't remember that..... hmmmm.


captskipper - 7/6/2004 at 12:42 PM

Hey Libby, that is the Alex Taylor, as in James , Livingston and Kates brother. They were touring as Alex Taylor & Friends, opening for the ABB that leg of that tour. As I recall Berry makes a joke about it early in the show somewhere. Alex wasnt as sweet voiced as James, sister Kate or Livingston. Alex was more bluesy and throaty singing.


Libby - 7/6/2004 at 12:49 PM

Thanks Skip, I'm a fan of Alex Taylor. I saw him a few years ago here in Atlanta. I'm more of an Alex fan than a James fan.

Geez, I don't remember that, but, too, I didn't see the ABB live until 1974.


PaulMcFadyen - 7/6/2004 at 02:00 PM

quote:
My Hats off to the folks at HTN,7 days from Order to Door for the Macon release not bad given that I live in the UK


WHATTT?????

Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed - I ordered mine 9 days ago, according to my KGE confirmation e-mail, so I'm really hoping hard it arrives before I jet off for 2 weeks in the sun tomorrow...

Of course, if not, then I'll have good reason to want to come back home again!!


JNB - 7/6/2004 at 02:37 PM

Hi Paul,

I show we shipped yours on June 30th. Hope you get it today!

JNB


Marley - 7/6/2004 at 03:09 PM

I think my copy will come today (forwarded from the home base in NY). Pretty close to my first exposur eto the five-man band. I can't wait to hear it!


PaulMcFadyen - 7/6/2004 at 07:17 PM

Hi Joe,

You most certainly did, and it most certainly did too!!

VERY impressed with the service & looking forward to packing this one up, ready for the Discman on holiday (assuming my kids give me an hours rest sometime! )

You guys really should update the HTN website you know - I think you advertise approx 5 weeks delivery to Europe, which is kinda offputting & not what I've experienced...


RobJohnson - 7/6/2004 at 08:49 PM

Paul, that is the "worst case scenario" shipping time, according to USPS. We would rather get it there earlier than advertised than promise something we can't deliver.

Enjoy the show!


Philip - 7/7/2004 at 03:01 PM

Many congratulations and thanks to Skip and all involved with this project. I will be listening to the 2nd disc on my way home from work today and I can't wait. I would have to agree it's the best sounding archive release so far. The clarity of each instrument and all the performances are outstanding.


finsky - 7/7/2004 at 03:42 PM

Very cool that the three archive releases thus far have been tapes of shows that have been unreleased/uncirculated.

JNB,

Are there other worthwhile tapes in the posession of the ABB/HTN camp? Don't need to know specifics, but curious to know if "things" do exist. And what about ABB-related projects? For example, a Captain in the Land of Tea recently touched up on a BHLT tape which was.... quite a find. Maybe a archive release of a GA solo show, or a Dickey release during the Highway Call years?

Great job to all involved.


RobJohnson - 7/7/2004 at 04:58 PM

"Are there other worthwhile tapes in the posession of the ABB/HTN camp?"

Are there stars in the sky? Are there fish in the sea? Are there...well, you get the idea!


finsky - 7/7/2004 at 07:05 PM

Rob,

Quite an ambiguous reply... but it'll do for now.

Are you selling any of your photography? I think you had your own site a while back regarding those....


RobJohnson - 7/7/2004 at 07:41 PM

Hey Finsky, that is BOB Johnson, not me I can't take credit for someone else's work!

I didn't mean to be evasive in my earlier reply. I suppose everybody has a different definition of "worthwhile," but suffice it to say there is a LOT of great ABB music that has yet to see official release.


finsky - 7/7/2004 at 07:47 PM

*Hey Finsky, that is BOB Johnson, not me I can't take credit for someone else's work!

I didn't mean to be evasive in my earlier reply. I suppose everybody has a different definition of "worthwhile," but suffice it to say there is a LOT of great ABB music that has yet to see official release.*

Aha! Don't know if Bob Johnson has that site up anymore though.....

It'd be pretty neat if HTN could get some of those vintage pics up for sale.

Good to know there is more music that is unearthed. Thanks for the replies.



karibourgeois - 7/8/2004 at 02:50 AM

Rob...not to be impatient but there's money in my pocket w/ Hittin the Note's name on it just waiting to be spent on all those other stars in the sky!

Bad humor...great job you all are doing! What an amazing time to be a fan of this band! Macon hasn't left my CD player since I got it last week. Incredibly job by all involved. Thanks!

[Edited on 7/8/2004 by karibourgeois]


Naess - 7/8/2004 at 05:14 AM

Does anyone have it in California yet?


JNB - 7/9/2004 at 01:59 AM

I know that we were shipping yesterday's orders today - so you shouldn't have to wait long!

Thank you to all that have purchased this! Please help spread the word on other websites...

JNB


jamminpappy - 7/9/2004 at 02:28 AM

I live in the SF bay area and have had it since last Friday. Sounds great too!


fsducati - 7/9/2004 at 04:14 AM

I am still waiting for mine to show up. I hope it is good as everyone says. Now to be greedy.......JNB what is next? These old releases are like crack.....you can not wait for your next hit.


JNB - 7/9/2004 at 08:59 PM

LOL - tell me about it! I saw Duane once and have been addicted ever since!

One of the great things about this job is that I have gotten to hear lots of unreleased gems and we are all in for a number of treats in the years ahead!

JNB


kjw818 - 7/10/2004 at 02:55 AM

Keep talking JNB!!! Enough teasing!!!


Naess - 7/10/2004 at 07:46 AM

quote:
I live in the SF bay area and have had it since last Friday. Sounds great too!

When did you order it? I ordered mine the day I got the e-mail about it, but wasn't charged for it until Friday. I live in the Bay area as well and am still waiting.


karibourgeois - 7/10/2004 at 01:50 PM

I ordered as soon as I got the email also and have had it for about a week in the East Bay


PeachNutt - 7/10/2004 at 01:57 PM

so tell us what you think - hope you're loving it!!!


merlin28 - 7/10/2004 at 02:41 PM

Still waiting for mine. I think I'm gonna cry


karibourgeois - 7/10/2004 at 04:42 PM

Its amazing! Has barely left my CD player since I got it...sorry the Derek Trucks Live in Athens and a Dead show have slipped in there from time to time recently.


jamminpappy - 7/10/2004 at 06:21 PM

I reallylike the new CD but I do miss Duane. as great as everyone else plays there is still a hole in the music for me. Dickey really steps up and Berry plays like he's possesed. As far as when I ordered the disc I think it was a day or two after the anouncement. It came pretty quick...but I don't get my "Hittin' the Note" mag for a couple of weeks after everyone else gets thiers.


JNB - 7/12/2004 at 11:57 PM

Hi Naess,

PM me with your name and I'll check on your order...

Thanks for your patience,

JNB


JNB - 7/13/2004 at 04:07 AM

For those who haven't gotten their Macon Archive CD yet and want to read the liner notes - check out the home page. Rowland and lana were kind enough to put the new cover of HTN on there as well. Thanks guys!

JNB


Werner - 7/13/2004 at 05:30 AM

Still waiting for the postman to deliver my copy. It should take 3-5 weeks to get it over the pond. 20 years ago in the star trek series on tv they could beam the whole gang millions of miles through the universe.When will kid glove be able to handle that technology???


JNB - 7/13/2004 at 12:03 PM

beam me up Scotty!

No...wait...I've got to pack Instant Lives this week!

JNB


finsky - 7/13/2004 at 03:03 PM

How are the sales doing for this archive release? Curious, as it's probably going to be the first exposure to the five man line up for the masses.

Dickey sounds delicious on this gig. He's got a bunch of ideas flowing through him, as he keeps going & going on songs like YDLM.

HTN/Kid Glove has come a looong way. Still remember them all white issues from waay back.


JNB - 7/13/2004 at 05:21 PM

We've sold about a 1,000 units so far...need to sell alot more! Please help spread the word on other websites...

I see those first issues everyday in the office - it takes me way back as well! I remember copying, folding and stapeling every one! Our office walls and ceilings are covered up with concert posters and we have one wall that has the front covers of each issue on it. I love looking at our progress - I think that the latest issue is one of our best! Hope you enjoy it as well!

JNB


JNB - 7/13/2004 at 09:45 PM

I just got word that the truck with all our Instant Lives has left the mfg. building and is traveling down the east coast to bring us delayed Instant Gratification! Perhaps we should have NYscammer escort it down to the office?!

JNB


PauliG - 7/13/2004 at 11:59 PM

Haven't got my Archive release yet either and I ordered it the same day as the e-mail too... But then again, I'm not sure I didn't order something else with it that might delay it!

Anyway, I'm spreading the word, as usual, about the Archive release. I know a handful of people who haven't gotten around to ordering it yet, but certainly will. I want to keep this thing rolling. I'm so excited about this one!

Does anyone know if they will ever get into releasing shows from the 90's and whatnot? I know this has been discussed and I can't remember what was said. - I'm sure there is probably an issue as to who actually owns what tapes, but knowing there are some great soundboards with Jack around (and all the other eras for that matter), I'd love to see some of that come out.


JNB - 7/14/2004 at 12:46 AM

I've heard that very idea discussed favorably!

JNB


Sang - 7/15/2004 at 12:54 AM

Still waiting on mine - can't wait!


Sandman - 7/15/2004 at 01:02 AM

You'll love it Sang! It's a burner from start to finish.

Thanks to Joe and Rob and everyone at HTN for all the great work they do!


JNB - 7/15/2004 at 03:23 AM

Hey Sandman!

You coming down to the Fox?

JNB


Sandman - 7/15/2004 at 03:29 AM

Hey Joe, I really wish I was...but I'm afraid I won't be able to swing it. I'm already to go to the Beacon next spring, though


JNB - 7/16/2004 at 05:06 AM

Gabba's got a lot of good things lined up!

What a weekend this will be - one for the ages and aged!

ALSO - The Mule is at the Tabernacle on 9-11. I wonder how Warren will pay homage? I'm sure the set list is in good hands!

JNB


RyanBelair - 7/16/2004 at 03:12 PM

Joe,

I believe that Mule show is at the Masqurade Music Park. Which is the little amphitheater behind the Masqurade. Great place to see a show, take the lawn from Lakewood and shrink it in half (if not more) and place the stage at the bottom of it. Saw Summer Sessions in '99 there with SCI, Galatic, moe., and the Mule, great venue. Can't wait for September...Mule, ABB, and Georgia Bulldog football, not a bad month at all!!!

Ryan


JNB - 7/17/2004 at 03:25 AM

Thanks Ryan - I had heard both and was wonderin'

BTW - GO JACKETS!!!

But I love them Dawgs too - except when they play my school!

JNB


Hophead - 7/17/2004 at 04:53 AM


quote:
But I love them Dawgs too - except when they play my school!

JNB



Turncoat!

Traitor!

Blasphemer!

TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!


Have you forgotten the words to the song, Joe?

WillieHoward, help me out here!


JNB - 7/17/2004 at 05:02 AM

That's cause you didn't date the Athens honeys like I did!

JNB


captskipper - 7/17/2004 at 05:44 AM

Or those sweet Tar Heel honeys up in Chapel Hill NC


Hophead - 7/17/2004 at 06:01 AM


quote:
That's cause you didn't date the Athens honeys like I did!

JNB


I had many a bird-dogging trip to Athens -- some more successful than others. Of course, I never was the star quarterback of my high school football team, nor did I grow up in Atlanta ...

Isn't it about time you made some posts to the Things I Did thread?

Anyway, what do coeds have to do with the good old fashioned hatred of the Bulldogs? Love the women and hate the school!

TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!


JNB - 7/17/2004 at 05:25 PM

We've been arguing about this for a long time. As a native Georgian many of my high school friends went to Athens (UGA) and I went to Ga. Tech. We hooked up a lot in Athens and it was a great town for music - as was Atlanta back in those days.

In sports I always pull for Georgia teams when they are playing someone else besides Tech - Ron can't stand it.

Another factor is that my mother went to UGA and my step-dad went to Tech. So we had to have peace in the family...

Oh yeah - was this an archive thread?!

JNB


EasyMichael - 7/17/2004 at 05:52 PM

Well, this third archive release was performed and recorded...in Georgia!

p.s. I was finally able to order my copy, and I sure look forward to hearing it!


Hophead - 7/18/2004 at 08:10 AM


When I was a freshman at Tech I wore a rat cap with "To Hell with Georgia" emblazoned on the brim. Upperclassmen took full advantage of their status in order to haze the newest incoming class.

By the time JNB entered Tech, rat caps were no longer mandatory and freshman hazing was passé. I can't help it, Joe -- I was brainwashed!

Besides, the Georgia Tech fight song, I'm a Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech -- quite possibly the most famous college fight song of all time -- exclaims "To hell with Georgia!" in the chorus.

My two favorite college teams are Georgia Tech and whoever is playing Georgia. Joe feels differently.

WillieHoward, where are you?


Goliath - 7/18/2004 at 01:04 PM

Brother Joe Bell is a reasonable and good man, in spite of his going to Tech. Hophead, on the other hand, is just a cur. Go Dawgs!

Anyways.......people are starting to lean toward Ricky Hirsch as the second guitarist on the Archive Release...Is there no one who was sober enough to remember? My wife was there that night, all she remembers is Berry. She saw nothing else.....LOL.


JNB - 7/18/2004 at 02:56 PM

I think a friend of Bill Ector's has some photos of that night - perhpas when we find them the mystey will be solved!

JNB


Libby - 7/18/2004 at 02:56 PM

I'll bet when Denza started this thread he had no idea it would become a Tech/UGA rivalry thread!




antjelly - 7/19/2004 at 02:08 AM

quote:

When I was a freshman at Tech I wore a rat cap with "To Hell with Georgia" emblazoned on the brim. Upperclassmen took full advantage of their status in order to haze the newest incoming class.

By the time JNB entered Tech, rat caps were no longer mandatory and freshman hazing was passé. I can't help it, Joe -- I was brainwashed!

Besides, the Georgia Tech fight song, I'm a Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech -- quite possibly the most famous college fight song of all time -- exclaims "To hell with Georgia!" in the chorus.

My two favorite college teams are Georgia Tech and whoever is playing Georgia. Joe feels differently.


I'm new and Hophead's Daughter. While he's blabbing about Tech, I am a Georgia Football Fan. GO Dawgs! But in basketball, leave it all to Duke!


Hophead - 7/19/2004 at 02:46 AM


Children! Leave the computer unattended long enough to make a sandwich and the Internet savvy little buggers will show you they have a mind of their own!

If anyone likes rap music, horses, or Duke basketball, please go to the thread she started and tell her hello.


fast43 - 7/19/2004 at 03:09 AM

Duke basketball. How awful.


Goliath - 7/19/2004 at 12:19 PM

quote:
I'm new and Hophead's Daughter. While he's blabbing about Tech, I am a Georgia Football Fan. GO Dawgs! But in basketball, leave it all to Duke!


Welcome antjelly!!! You are so awesome, GO DAWGS, I love it. HA. So there, Hophead!


JNB - 7/19/2004 at 03:31 PM

RedDog posted this on the guestbook:

It sure is good to see, and read about, how good the bands are playing. Meaning the Brothers and Brother Dickey's band. Music brings joy to heart of many and myself. Nothing like good music to boogie by, or just lay down and listen to. As Brother Duane said, "We are spreading a religion here," meaning the music of the ABB. He said, "Music never hurt nobody." True as can be, he was.

Speaking of music. I had the pleasure of hearing the CD, of the Brother from Feb. 1972. That band was made up with the big Five. The Oak was something else. The man was well before his time. Other bass players wish the could play with the drive, and the finesse, as he did and still keep the band on the right track with all that fire. Throw in the sweet lines in the pretty stuff and you hear it all. Others are still trying to do that. Good as the are they, or at least no one has stepped up to the plate. The man was the best.

I had been ask to listen to that recording to see if I could tell who the other guitar player was on the song, You Don't Love Me. In listening, I found out, at least, this is the way I hear it.

No, there is not another guitar player. I could not hear one if there was. What I did hear was a great guitar player coming into his own as far as the world, would see him, doing what makes him one of the top guitar player in the world. No matter what people think of his personal life. His creativeness is untouchable. The man creates so much right there in the heat of battle, that it is unreal. That is why he makes mistakes sometimes. Trying to create and find his way back. What he was doing was playing his and Brother Duane's parts. Sometimes he would try to do both at once. When you hear the other, or what sounds like an other guitar, it is Betts making a mistake. Which this only happened a couple of times? It seems that it threw some people off into thinking there might be two guitar players on that song. No, its Just Brother Dickey showing what he was made of even back then.

Remember a lot of people after Duane passed said, " Where did he come from, or I did not know he could play like that." Trouble was, they never paid attention to the song Black Hearted Woman. Dickey does all the guitar work on that bad Lady. Those that did not pick up on that missed the boat.
Thank you for your time. I will drop in from time, to time, if you don't mind?

Ps. Brother Gregg was singing his tail of and it was good to hear how he used to inter act with the people. Listening to the drummers brought back so many memories of how good they were back when it was just the two of them. That is no way meant to be a knock, just saying how great they were. All the free style playing, is what made this great band, along with the canary voice of the greatest white blues singer to come down the pike. Memories, memories. How sweet some are.
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Joseph L. Campbell


RyanBelair - 7/19/2004 at 04:14 PM

Jezz, just got back to the computer after the weekend see what happens when you leave the forum for a couple of Yellow Jackets to buzz around!

I though this was a wise statement from JNB:
"That's cause you didn't date the Athens honeys like I did!"

When it comes to women and football there is no doubt which is #1...Go Dawgs!

I can't remember which writer for the AJC said this but I though it was a keen observation. He said the difference between UGA fans and Techies is that Georgia fans want to talk about how good their team is and root them on while Tech fans want to talk about how bad they think Georgia's team is and roots against the Dawgs. They seem to be more a fan of hoping the Dawgs do poorly than their own football team. Football envy? I think so!

Glad Goliath and Libby got in here over the weekend to restore order. Rob Johnson, Great Scott, Michael Williams, where y'all at? We need some more Dawgs over here.

Regarding the archive release and Red Dog's post...no disrespect but there are clearly two guitarist playing. It is most evident about one half way to three quarters way through the song. Great release if you don't have it, get it. Lets keep these releases rolling.

Take care,

Ryan


Sang - 7/19/2004 at 05:39 PM

Still waiting.......


Marley - 7/19/2004 at 10:29 PM

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Duke basketball. How awful.

That's one word that can't be applied to Duke basketball.


Hophead - 7/19/2004 at 10:49 PM


quote:
quote:
Duke basketball. How awful.

That's one word that can't be applied to Duke basketball.


True.

But aptly describes antjelly's obsession with Duke (and Georgia!) in a Georgia Tech household ...


Marley - 7/19/2004 at 10:51 PM

quote:
True.

But aptly describes antjelly's obsession with Duke (and Georgia!) in a Georgia Tech household ...

That's another story, and I'm definitely not stepping into that crossfire.


ThinestSkin - 7/22/2004 at 05:37 PM

anyone else having trouble getting their macon cds. i ordered mine 2 weeks ago, live in the states, and still haven't gotten it. i tried contacting kid glove and i got an automated response about the instant live cds, which i didn't order. any one know if they've really been extra busy, do shipments usually take this long. thanks for any input, i'm new here.

- please excuse my lack of punctuation, my shift keys are both broken


Sandman - 7/22/2004 at 05:47 PM

They've been very, very busy the last two weeks getting those instant live cds out to everyone. I would suspect your archive release will be coming very soon. You won't be disappointed! It's a good one


RobJohnson - 7/22/2004 at 05:52 PM

Thinestskin, we have indeed really been extra busy! We shipped out more mail in the last three days than we do in a normal month, the Post Office folks were freaking out as we kept coming in with dozens of mail bins full of orders.

We are focusing on getting these Instant Lives out right now. I'm sorry if it has been a while on your Macon order, but some of the Instant Live folks have been waiting for months. We will get to everything else as soon as we can, and thanks for your patience!


ThinestSkin - 7/22/2004 at 06:43 PM

thanks for the reply, i was just worried. i can't wait to listen to macon. good luck with your heavy workload


PauliG - 7/22/2004 at 07:59 PM

I ordered my archive disc the day it was announced. Last Thursday (I think it was Thursday, anyway) someone from Kid Glove left me a message and I returned the call the next day, but I haven't heard back. They weren't sure what I ordered. I've been meaning to call back again, just to clarify everything. I totally understand them being busy... I don't even mind the wait, I've been so busy myself. I would love to hear it though.


JNB - 7/23/2004 at 03:11 AM

Yep - there was a problem that affected a few orders - if you didn't click the last "proceed" button in the process then a glitch occured. We're calling everyone that happened to and confirming what they ordered.

Leave a message on our voicemail identifying yourself and what you ordered and we will ship it out to you...

Thanks,

JNB


PaulMcFadyen - 7/23/2004 at 09:38 PM

I have a question about the sound of this release - having lived with it (& loved it!) whilst on 2 weeks' holiday, I've noticed that Whipping Post appears to be suffering from a lot of static - this first appears at about the 5:26 mark for a few seconds, and then from about 10:50 through to the end of the song.

Is this unique to my copy, or is it a problem that affected the original source tape?


JNB - 7/24/2004 at 02:27 AM

We'll check it out...also try playing it in another CD player and see if the results are the same.

JNB


Denza - 7/24/2004 at 02:14 PM

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I'll bet when Denza started this thread he had no idea it would become a Tech/UGA rivalry thread!


Right you are Libby...however it does give me the chance to voice a long over due observation on the subject...

I have worked with many engineers, both Tech and GA grads. I have to say most of the ones from Tech didn't have the sense God gave a sack of potatoes. I mean they are deep in theory and short on common sense...honest, I'd have been fired if came up with some of the designs I have seen these guys present. However our VP had instucted me to be helpful to them so I have taught them useful things that they didn't know like shaking a can of spray paint until the ball rattles so the paint will come out. It wasn't so easy with one guy, but he was probably distracted by working on his Master's.

In fairness though, the GA grads always seems to screw up by giving me fries instead of onion rings with my order.


JNB - 7/24/2004 at 04:07 PM

Denza, Denza, Denza - geez - you spanked us pretty bad!

So what school did you go to and can you spell it?

JNB

P.S. did the ABB play YOUR school in 1970 & 71?


Libby - 7/24/2004 at 06:09 PM

Uhhhhh-oh..... Denza??

I'm lookin' forward to the next installment!


captskipper - 7/24/2004 at 06:20 PM

JNB, you and Hophead should tread very lightly with the Denzanator, after all he did attend Oxford you know. That would be the Oxford Georgia Correspondence College. I think that makes him a Rhodes Scholar, or is that a Roads Scholar somewhere between Macon & Atlanta? I believe he carried a 3.9 GPA for the entire 8 years there while majoring in advanced CDR Trading & Burning and a minor study load in DVD transfering.


Denza - 7/24/2004 at 07:41 PM

Was it something I said?

I guess ya know me better than I thought ya did captskip....and sure Joe, I can spell it...F.I.T. Skip's assessment probably more accurately describes the crux of the matter though.


Thanks you guys for all you've done to bring us the new archive release. A "Tip-O-The-Hat" to y'all!


JNB - 7/24/2004 at 07:54 PM

Our pleasure!

JNB


captskipper - 7/24/2004 at 07:55 PM

Now that was fun!!! LOL...I was expecting a return fire though brother..still LOL....
BTW, that Moody Blues is cool!!! Carlos sent me the audio which is what I really wnated , and the DVD (but I have to watch on my wifes HP as I have no DVD gear on my studio rig) Thanks for your wotrk on that puppy!


PauliG - 7/26/2004 at 06:40 PM

JNB,
Thanks for your help. I left a message and I received a package on Friday, but it was for the wrong thing. It was actually for an Instant Live order, that I received last month already. hee hee. Oops. I can package that back up and send it back. Should I just give a call back into Kid Glove and clarify my order?
Thanks,
Paul.


JNB - 7/26/2004 at 08:40 PM

Sorry we messed up - thanks for letting us know! The margins are so thin in this business that when we double ship something, or ship the wrong thing - it cost a lot to recover the lost profit. We really appreciate the honest fans that let us know when that "lost shipment" arrives and they send us back our second shipment that was to replace the lost shipment.

Things are so crazy in the office ight now that is would be best to PM me here. Give me your full name and any info you think I may need and we will get it right!

Thanks,

JNB


Bingylandmusic - 9/8/2004 at 02:42 AM

Okay , I'm over being pissed about for the second time sending for an archive release and not getting it, but in all fairness, I’m not sure if they ever charged me for the first one "Stony Brook” and Macon did finally come in. I thought I'd give it try for historical reasons and send for the Macon One. I was somewhat disappointed in" AU dec 1970" but I’m a loyal fan and willing to keep trying. Someone once said don't get hung up on the sound quality- hmm, well I do like to listen to them so the AU seems to sounds better on my cheap alarm clock cd player.. sorry I,m getting of my point...I've been listening to Macon '72 for a bout wk now and I 'm glad to report that although the wait was long(I guess anyway by my standards-almost 4 wks) it was now worth it.

Great show!!!! good playing and decent sound quality, btw have we ever figured out who the second guitar player is on YDLM?


[Edited on 9/8/2004 by Bingylandmusic]


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